Hi /lit/,
I decided to get off the /pol/ train. I'm not interested in being bluepilled, but /pol/ is a type of bluepill in itself. All I wanted was to consider new views and not be afraid to call out demographic change, not become a white nationalist while being stuck in a permanent outrage machine. In addition, I think it's really starting to impair my quality of life because I'd binge too much and it'd make me depressed.
Unfortunately, I don't really have an ideology anymore, and I don't know where to go from here. What should I read to deradicalize without becoming bluepilled again?
People I like reading: John Stuart Mill, Pat Buchanan, Noam Chomsky, Theodor Adorno, Martin Heidegger.
You don't have to be a white Nationalist to be radical. You could just take a nuanced perspective
>>9473075
True. But I really don't even know what to think about how power works in the world anymore, and just thinking about it makes me more miserable. I'd stop thinking about it and silently vote if it weren't for the fact that everybody shoehorns in their politics into everything nowadays.
The only reason I was even on /pol/ in the first place is because it's probably one of the only websites where you could have fun and occasionally informative political discourse without people parroting the corporate media over and over again. I also go to an extremely liberal university without proper Socialist / Republican / Libertarian clubs, so I have no real life outlet, increasing the stress I get. Maybe it's an emotional maturity issue, but I'm certainly not going to let /pol/ get to me anymore.
>muh 17 intelligence agencies
Fuck, I thought us liberals learned from the Iraq War that the intelligence community is not to be trusted when testifying about anything related to geopolitics.
If you want to become bourgeois, you've got to stop reading so many people who were willing to live ascetic lives in response to the fundamental faults in bourgeois modernity. You have to start reading a lot of sanitized books by ivory tower academics in sinecures talking about how we can make things marginally better for marginal groups, but without rocking the boat too much. Remember, the key thing in being a bourgeois piece of shit is to keep the boat as steady as possible, because you have the best seats and are fundamentally content with the boat as it is, even if it occasionally affords you an unsightly view of the people dying and suffering at the other end of it.
Throw out that Adorno, the Heidegger. Keep the Chomsky - but only his recent stuff where he wants you to vote Obama to save the world. Get rid of On Liberty unless you can doublethink yourself into ignoring its loftier principles (like ACTUAL freedom to say what you think, even when it rocks the boat! perish the thought). Pat Buchanan might even be a bit too much. I recommend reading some watered-down neoconservatives, maybe get some Kagan or Fukuyama.
Right now, it might seem like the best direction to go in is the phony liberal progressivism of the Democrat "side" of the controlled dissent spectrum. But the Chomskies of the world, the ones who vote for the Blue Team, are as ailing as their paradigm. The pendulum of meaningless bourgeois sloganeering while you drink your slave-produced Starbucks is swinging back to neoconservatism, probably a trendy alt-lite libertarianism thoroughly sanitized of any of its actual anti-state elements, so that it folds nicely into existing Reaganite neocon globalism, and you get to keep your Starbucks. They might tinge it with some Elon Musk posthumanism, too, I hear that mentally retarded child-man is a Reagan-worshipping physical embodiment of Reddit proles.
So what you should do is, start aligning yourself with RIGHT libertarianism for the short term - that is, anti-state, radical capitalist "the free market runs itself" type libertarianism. Stay away from left libertarianism for the short term - those guys aren't mainstreamed yet, so have too many anti-globalist autarkic nationalists in there thinking unsanctioned thoughts, Hoppe types. Cling to a kind of milquetoast Randian right libertarian utopianism, while also reading lots of Steve Jobs venture capitalist jerkoff posthumanist utopianism for braindead Reddit faggots, and THEN in 10-20 years when that stuff enters the mainstream and they start using it to compress the working class and the third world slave factories into cubes you will enjoy a safe transition into an Outer Party job where you can swallow your boss's cum while he genetically engineers his children to be bosses and they do the same to their children until the New Republican cyborg managerial class is a permanent ossified layer dominating all of late post-liquid capitalist "humanity" until time itself comes to an end.
Which one am I supposed to buy?
Is that Ted Ks bible?
Specifically interested in old testament, roman catholic or orthodox
Was raised by two atheists so I dont know what to do
>>9473049
I dont know who that is, sorry
>finish a book
>look up the themes on wikipedia
>got the answers wrong AGAIN
>>9473003
The "AGAIN" killed me
>>9473003
Bro, you can edit Wikipedia
>>9473003
Relatable.
What the fuck was his problem?
>>9472972
bullied
>>9472972
The Cenci, Prometheus Unbound, Triumph of Time, Skylark Ode et al began as problems. All of which he solved beautifully. Still don't like his politics, but my poetic Mang! fer sure.
>>9472972
>What the fuck was his problem?
he didn't sail so good
>Vernal's Inquest never happens
>Michael never has to kill anyone
wtf I hate Northampton now
>>9472889
I think the point was more the eternity/angel stuff
>>9472953
Clouds unfold is the most important part of that book imo. Beautiful chapter
>>9472953
But they saved Mickey for nothing
Anyone else think this was complete and utter shit? Just read like a 16 year old trying to write the edgiest things he could come up with, I'm convinced that it has no literary value whatsoever and only pseuds enjoy it.
you are probably unironically not a good enough reader
if you got mad reading it you proved his point on the morality of ideology
>>9472835
this cover always reminds me of spongebob.
And no, it's a great book. It's like cave painting, the first of it's kind. The only predecessors it really has are Gargantua and Pantagruel, maybe Candide.
Centuries from now, people will look at this book to help them understand the depravity of the 20th century.
>I love theatre! Who's my favorite playwrite? Uh, who wrote Hamilton? :^)
stop using the Americanized term "playwrite", it's playwright.
Who is yours, frogman?
>>9472809
I told the girl Jarry and she laughed and asked if he wrote any musicals
Should I become a novelist or a philosopher?
Should I write exciting fiction stories with deep philosophical themes or just write essays?
>>9472766
(You) shouldn't worry but write it all simultaneously. The future belongs to Absolute Literature.
Academia is hell
I'm writing a giant treatise on the appreciation of prepubescent naked girls as a spiritual endeavor, as well as a parallel novel dealing with the same things. It will be my greatest work.
Utilitarianism or deontology? (No nihilists allowed.)
>>9472655
Virtue ethics
>>9472655
Deontology
Utilitarianism has no formal definition.
What is the literary lifestyle, to you?
The literary lifestyle to me is the ``ideal'' lifestyle and is thus romantic; waking with your latest conquest aside you, writing into the night, and exercising, partying, and enjoying the arts in the most extravagant manner available.
OK Morrissey, you've had your fun.
Try writing a decent book please.
>>9472526
The literary lifestyle is sitting at home, eating nachos, drinking a coke, and writing your book or reading.
I just finished Thus Spoke Zarathustra and really enjoyed it. I find myself agreeing with him on most of his points (except the women hating stuff he shoe-horns in every 50 pages), but as someone who leans more towards the religious side of existentialism i'm conflicted.
>>9472442
have you read stirner? stirner's critics adresses some of the critiques of egoism/individualism
>>9472442
youre too dumb for philosophy
universal literacy was a mistake
after virtue
What is the meaning behind this again?
Magical realism is a valid literary tool.
>>9472462
Could you expand on this, please?
>>9472420
Tried reading it, didn't get it
Discutons. Alors que je voulais juste être distrait et pratiquer mon français, je me suis retrouvé totalement accablé. Admettant qu'au debut c'est une histoire plus sexy que intelectuel, je me suis rapidement fait absorber par l'histoire et les themes que georges bataille a pu construir.
>>9472011
dont speak that language
Don't stop there then. Bataille's other work, on the sacred and on history, is much more interesting. He's only just starting to be appreciated in the last generation or so. I always get worried when I see people only reading The Story of the Eye, as if that's his main event. It's such a sideshow to his much more expansive thought.
>>9472011
Va falloir lire Bleu du Ciel alors, hein.
what are some works that discuss ideas like tourism, traveling, etc. from a philosophical standpoint?
anyone?
well it's not philosophy rather just /lit/ but "A Supposedly Fun Thing I'll Never Do Again" is considered nice (although personally I didn't like it)
Journey around my room - Xavier de Maistre
good saturday /lit/
I am about to start the book on the left in the pic and was wandering, what are your favorite greek plays and authors?
also, going to read it cover to cover, the authors are in a good order, right? I checked bloom's western canon list and the order is the same there. And is this translation ok?
>>9471774
wondering-
>>9471774
Euripides is probably my favorite Greek playwright. The Bacchae, Orestes and Electra are all great plays.
>>9471774
Its a really old fashioned translation, I am not sure how the plays are but the illiad in that collection was god awful. Its plato was ok.