>Point out the problems you have with a book
>"You just didn't understand it, Anon"
>>9476410
>point out genuine misconceptions and incorrect assumptions about your interpretation of the book using valid reasoning and evidence
>"Holy shit it's just my opinion. Don't be such an autist."
>>9476410
Waiting for Godot isn't that hard Anon
>>9476410
>when the general consensus of a book is an obvious, fundamental misunderstanding of the message of the book
Why aren't you reading Indian literature?
>>9476390
I heard that not even Indians would wipe their ass with it
Fpbp
tried reading some tagore but didn't get into it, the indian government should get behind promoting indian culture more, the way japs spam their shitty cartoons on the world, or the korean force awful k-pop shit with flat assed women onto poor nerds the world over. if you want ppl to read that shit you gotta put some promotional effort behind it, if wipro and infosys can lock up like 90% of the h1b visas to america, they must be able to get barnes and noble to put an indian lit shelf inbetween china and japan at least lol
Why aren't YOU studying for finals right now?
Statistics is eZaF
Inb4, because I was too much of a pussy to take straight philosophy at uni so ended up taking politics and economics as well, and if I have to look at one more fucking indifference curve I'm going to kill myself. Sitting on my ass writing gay erotica is way more fun.
>spending more than a quarter of your life in academia
lmao fucking NERD
Post writers who should have been executed
>On 15 November 1945 Pound was transferred to the United States. An escorting officer's impression was that "he is an intellectual 'crackpot' who imagined that he could correct all the economic ills of the world and who resented the fact that ordinary mortals were not sufficiently intelligent to understand his aims and motives."[122] He was arraigned in Washington D.C. on the 25th of that month on charges of treason. The charges included broadcasting for the enemy, attempting to persuade American citizens to undermine government support of the war, and strengthening morale in Italy against the United States.[123]
>Pound's lawyer, Julien Cornell, whose efforts to have him declared insane are credited with having saved him from life imprisonment, requested his release at a bail hearing in January 1947
>>9475626
SALUTATION TO THE THIRD
Let us deride the smugness of "The Times":
GUFFAW!
So much for the gagged reviewers,
It will pay them when the worms are wriggling in their vitals;
These are they who objected to newness,
Here are their tomb-stones.
They supported the gag and the ring:
A little Black Box contains them.
So shaIl you be also,
You slut-bellied obstructionist,
You sworn foe to free speech and good letters,
You fungus, you continuous gangrene.
Come, let us on with the new deal,
Let us be done with pandars and jobbery,
Let us spit upon those who pat the big-bellies for profit, Let us go out in the air a bit.
Or perhaps I will die at thirty?
Perhaps you will have the pleasure of defiling my pauper's grave;
I wish you joy, I proffer you all my assistance.
It has been your habit for long
to do away with good writers,
You either drive them mad, or else you blink at their suicides,
Or else you condone their drugs,
and talk of insanity and genius,
But I will not go mad to please you,
I will not flatter you with an early death,
Oh, no, I will stick it out,
Feel your hates wriggling about my feet
As a pleasant tickle,
to be observed with derision,
Though many move with suspicion,
Afraid to say that they hate you;
The taste of my boot?
Here is the taste of my boot,
Caress it,
lick off the blacking.
>>9475657
>Or perhaps I will die at thirty?
You sure that's not misquote? Maybe it's "Or perhaps I will die at fifteen?" because that sounds as if written by a fourteen year old.
>"I'm gonna fail uni" drinking thread
What are you drinking, what are you reading.
Straight Jameson reading articles from Philosophy of Science (the journal), just finished Nazi Literature in the Americas from Bolaño instead of studying for the Statistics class I have a 60 in.
Taking pride in your failure and ill-discipline as somehow the embodiment of a rock and roll lifestyle (it's not) is quite literally the Oxford dictionary definition of homosexual. Or alternatively seeking camaraderie in your failure and ill-discipline - we're failures together! - is synonymous with sucking on cocks. You have a problem - yes? Be bold; face your demons; conquer the night.
>>9475025
I don't take pride in anything I'm just clear sighted about being a piece of shit lel
>>9475025
woah your banter is /lit/ as fuck you even mentioned the oxford dictionary
very cool
Any good suicide-positive books? I'm fascinated by the aesthetics of suicide and I want to be able to happily embrace it.
>>9475001my diary, desu
Also that one japanese guide to suicide. It's not translated tho.
how dare you use this glorious /out/ picture!
>>9475010
Bruh Mishima's Patriotism has been translated in numerous languages
What should my next poem be about?
When you're down to the brass on a pencil eraser
But you made a mistake
On the same place you've made several mistakes before.
So you rub out your mistake,
The brass rips the paper
And now the mistake turns into a void
And now thats all it eer can be.
>>9474950
The Triumph of Time
>>9474950
Isis. I don't mean the Islamist group, I mean the Goddess. Write about the Goddess Isis and her Nile-flooding tears.
My professor and I had this argument while we were talking about the sophists, Aristotle and the ontological category of words. I told him writing on a paper - something material - isn't exactly 'words', but rather a representation of words, and so is speech, meanwhile words are something abstract. He disagreed and kept quoting some passage of Aristotle's metaphysics and telling me words are material.
Am I retarded or what? Words aren't fucking concrete!
>>9474524
ass
good story to bad it isnt true
>>9474524
Tokens – inscribed, spoken, etc. – can instantiate words, but words themselves are abstract types belonging to a formal system (a language).
These are always fun. R8, b8, h8, st8, rec,shitpost,whatever. How's my taste?
I am also reading the last samurai by helen Dewitt but it's an ebook so can't take a pic.
I'm currently reading The Tunnel and i'm halfway through it so far
What should I read after I get through this?
ITT: post /lit/ related videos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvU8lG6XoF0
https://youtu.be/smMa38CZCSU
good playlist on philosophers
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLFF9E7ADD88FBA144
duh
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkxUY0kxH80
There is a conception that romantic love is some beautiful, selfish and virtuous thing. Having never experienced it myself, I decided to ask around.
After that I got a completely different impression of it. Instead of it being beautiful, I found it disturbing. An obsession with the other person, one that is only temporally satisfied when the object of your love shows you affection. This reciprocation is the source of all the pleasure and satisfaction. Now, this seems to me more like some sort of a narcissistic personality disorder - thinking the world of the other person only so that when the other person reciprocates you get the ultimate ego stroke. That is of course a double edged blade, from what I asked around it is also a source of jealousy and misery.
So I ask, why is it so glorified in literature? Am I getting it wrong?
bumpo
>tfw I read it
BRB gonna find someone to jizz on my face
>>9473663
Maybe once you experience it yourself you will understand. You sound jaded as fuck and need some love in your life
Masterpiece or pretentious garbage?
>>9473583
you made the same thread on /tv/
make up your own mind
>>9473583
Degenerate.
>>9473635
>The book and film are the same
We really need to sit down and come up with a definitive list of what is and what isn't a spoon
>>9473408
how can so many people not understand stirner? it's not particularly complicated. motivations that come from outside of yourself are spooks. take family for an example. liking your dad and hanging out with him doesn't make you spooked. hanging out with your dad BECAUSE he is part of your family even though you hate him means you've been spooked by the idea of ‘family’, which comes from outside yourself. this isn't much more than basic criticism - he's pointing to society’s sources of values that tell you to do things and saying, “they’re all the same, all outside yourself, all as valid as 'commands' from a christian god.” what makes stirner unique is his solution. most critics dismiss one particular source of values and then replace it with something else that's also outside themselves; think of someone disparaging christian values, but replacing them with the just-as-spooky values of liberal humanism. stirner says the way to get back of spooks once and for all is to take motivation from only one place, from inside yourself: from the ego. nietzsche has a great description of how someone can start to live like this in thus spoke zarathustra when he describes the camel, lion and child. try to understand what he's really getting at it in the ego and its own, which is pretty revolutionary once the subtleties are understood, before you listen to how people have applied his reasoning to moral theory, political theory, etc. don't try to argue with his anecdotes or anything like that, they are just stand-ins for what he's trying to do, and can be replaced with whatever you'd like.`
*spook
Everything that is not a spoon is'nt a spoon.
No these threads suck
There you go senpai
Philosopher or entertainer? Worth reading?
Zizek falls into the same trap as a lot of other Zizeks. He has command over a handful of interesting philosophical discourses that are extremely abstruse and difficult to understand. He enjoys the prestige of this, and he's probably frustrated that no one else can keep up. He looks down on public intellectuals who dumb shit down, hewing off all the interesting stuff that requires hard work to understand, so that the plebs can access it in bite-sized form.
What he does instead is swirl it all together into a pastiche-y private language that only he has access to. The untalented dilettantes who can barely understand an Intro to Hegel class, or who delude themselves into thinking they're "Lacanians" because they have unthinkingly internalised a few half-Lacanian methods from Wikipedia, follow him around like groupies because they're too dumb to realise that they aren't understanding even one of the 9 discourses he's fusing together. The public intellectuals who do the dumbing down method don't bother with him. The professors, who are hyper-specialised in one discourse each, have no interest in reading a Lacano-Hegelo-Marxo-etc. guy, when they are only interested in the Hegelo or Marxo part. And the two or three people out there in the world who are accidentally smart enough and learned enough in the same exact areas as Zizek to understand Zizek still aren't interested in reading him, because he's been private language'ing himself for so long that even they can't read his books without insane amounts of effort anymore.
All Zizek is left with is groupies, and worthless college faggots who watch his Youtube videos and post on the DOWN WITH CRAPITALISM MEMESQUAD Facebook page with their repugnant normie college friends.
Zizek could probably be a good philosopher if he were thrown back to 70 years ago and actually had people he could talk to, and who could talk him down into saying intelligible things. As it stands, even the smartest people around have to be forced to read his work, and even then they basically throw their hands up and say "I'm not familiar with Lacan so I can only sorta-understand 30% of this book."
tldr: No one is really in dialogue with Zizek, which is usually a good sign he's not saying much.
>>9472433
Neither. No.
http://www.howtoacademy.com/courses/slavoj-zizek-will-self-conversation