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So, I've been reading a lot of Raymond Chandler lately and the guy's got me real bummed out. I'm looking for something light but not frivolous, with enough substance that I have to bear with the words rather than skim along next to them. Something like pic related, or Amnesia Moon, is the mode I'm after, but not necessarily more Lethem.

Recos?

/light reading general/
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Bump, you buttholes. I know you're bored. Tell me what to read!
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>>9483196
China Miéville is a decent horror/mystery writer.
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>>9483535

I've read him. Embassytown had an interesting creature concept, but was fuzzy where it wasn't obvious. Generally 'meh'.

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What the FUCK is he trying to convey?
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not /lit/
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>>9483152
allusion to erudition – tweet format needed because in longer form lack of substance would be apparent

if you make a passing reference to schelling you seem like someone casually familiar with german idealism, it's easy
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>>9483152
rare kantbot interview
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOk6HB609po

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>spend an hour writing one sentence
>delete it afterwards
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This is why primary writing should be pen to paper, at least until you refine your ability to the point that you don't feel the need to neurotically edit or rewrite what you've already written.

The hardest part of writing anything is to get the basic draft done, everything after that point is refinement, but trusting yourself to create some kind of foundation on which to base that refinement takes a lot of time before it becomes automatic.
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>>9483116

>spend hours writing something

>realize you were just pouring out all of your angst and frustration in shitty clunky prose that nobody cares about and nobody wants to read

>realize you will probably end up just being a failure anyways like everyone else and you were born in a low-class stupid family and you are a low-class stupid person who will never afford college

>look at closet that you stashed your loaded gun in.
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>>9483116
>show qt girl my short story
>she says she loves it and wants to hear more
>I immediately delete it because I think she's just being nice and is actually having a laff

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Has anyone read this?
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Ya
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>>9483079
Did you like it?
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>>9483084
I didn't read it.

What are the arguments /against/ the Death of the Author?
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It's alive!
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>>9483075
you see, the author may die, but haha, such as jesus who remade the world with the foundations already layed down by his father, the author comes back to life, not as lazarus, but as jesus himself. You see, the author is dead and that should be the first analysis, but once you take into consideration this way of thought about a particular work and its motions, you take into consideration how the author is actually, ALIVE. You see, then this adds another layer toa more complete, objective, perspective on any novel. For example, Cervantes is alive, thus the character of Cervantes in Don Quixote is a self-insert for whatever purpose we may deduce.
Cervantes is dead, now the character of Cervantes in Don Quijote is but a simple creation with a non-ironic purpose
Cervantes now has come back to life, thus the the character of Cervantes in Don Alonso Quijano, is a self-insert yet a simple character with no reality to him! HAHA!

Yes, I'm hegelian
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death of the author has always been the last refuge for the college student, eager to read the spark-notes, and quick to trash the book!

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>Knowledge is a justified true belief.

So this is the power of the Greeks.
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An aspiration.
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>>9483044
A justified true belief doesn't necessarily need to be desirable though. There's truth in cynicism.
aka: > the dark side
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>>9483083
There are many people who desire the ability to desire the undesirable.

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How lit is your wishlist? I know I posted this the other day but honestly now it has borders and it's much prettier. This isn't like, all the books I want to buy. All the stared stuff is books I actually already have but just want on an easton press copy so I can read them. Most of them I picked up from my parent's house, and I want to give them back so I can have nice copies of my own which will I can cherish for a long time.
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>500 dollar earbuds

why?
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this might be the best bait i've ever seen
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>>9483038
>spending hundreds of dollars to get autistic editions of books you should have read in high school and grown out of already
>vapirizer

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Why don't philosophers speak in plain language?
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>>9483002
Don't you mean write?
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nietzshe spoke in plain language, not all philosophers are fags who muddy they waters to make them appear deep
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>>9483002
a shit ton of philosophy is already in plain english if you think about philosophy in a general sense. you're seriously asking why a systemic philosopher is going to use a bunch of jargon? its the only way to compact your topic to keep the work from being too long and wordy.

also to minimize implications

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>tfw you will never be a Ancient Era victorious war hero that took as prize the wives of other inferior enemy war heroes and you will never partake in the honor of emerging victorious among all
bad feel
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Even if you loved back then you'd more likely be javelined like a big fat pig and trampled on by hundreds of enemy soldiers. Your bones would never leave the mud you died in.
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>>9482932
Naw dude, you wouldn't be Achilles or Odysseus.
You'd more likely be one of the suitors who tries to get a crack at his wife on Argos only to get speared by the big alpha upon his return.
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>>9482970
I would be some blacksmith or farmer not even mentioned

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Are greentexts a form of literature?
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Yes, but how do we innovate the greentext? Right now it's only used for implying and quotations.
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Without question
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>>9482880
Sure.

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I've been struggling lately with the possibility that my legacy will be one of mediocrity, s naturally I decided to read this. What are your thoughts?
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was mandatory to read in a college course I took while in high school.

pretty eye-opening and sad.
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>>9482881
It's such a harrowing tale made especially sad because it's all too real.
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>>9482881
>was mandatory to read in a college course I took while in high school.
lol

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I've become interested in the nuances and limits of human memory and testimony, especially in the context of trauma. For example, how different accounts of wars, terrorist attacks, or whatever can be different.

Does anybody have any interesting examples of this? Is there any good literature on this topic? Thanks!
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everyone who was around nyc on sept. 11th and saw the attacks rememebers they said building 7 was going to be a controlled demo because it was unsafe...now all i see is that it collapsed on it's own despite not being hit by a plane, and the towers have collapsed hours before...if someone asked me i would swear that's what happened, but that's apparently not what happened, it's not even a conspiracy kook thing, i could have sword they said they were demoing it because it was unsafe or something and dropped it...now everyone says it fell on it's own...it's like uh ok i guess
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>>9482790

Pic related might be a useful starting point for you in a certain sense. It does not dwell much into the specifics of trauma I guess but it does mention how one's account of memory relates to memory as a thing in itself, and has an autobiography/textbook dynamic which makes it a mostly entertaining read anyways.

The author also recounts his life from Nazi-time Vienna, so in a way the testimony by himself on how it was to be there during that time is something you can also compare by yourself with, lets say, historical news and such, and draw your own conclusions on how his perception affected his memory of the country.
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>>9482790
Tralfamadorians.

Sorry, that's all I got OP. Fascinating topic though, interested in better posts than mine. I am absolutely certain the US Government has conducted research on TBI and PTSD, maybe some of their medical papers could help you.

Just finished reading the OT and now I'm starting the NT (half way through Matthew). What books do i have to look forward to in the NT? Also what works should I read after the Bible? I was thinking about Confessions by St. Augustine next. Is that a good idea?
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Summa Theologica of course
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Yeah, read Confessions. Maybe read Waddell's Desert Fathers.
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The NT is great. Especially this version (pic related).

After the Bible read the book of common prayer

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>>9482734

Why read?
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>>9482734
Because at some point you realise that philosophy hasn't really progressed in centuries and will leave you in a bloodless vacuum without any of the answers you set out to find while literature at least gives you an approximation and possibilities.
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>>9482734
>Because at some point you realise that philosophy hasn't really progressed in centuries

I'm still Starting With the Greeks, but is it even worth it going past the 1600s?

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I need help. How do I go about writing a seppuku scene.
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>>9482676
Read Mishima, he got famous doing nothing but writing seppuku scenes.
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Same as how you'd write a sex scene, but with a sword instead of a willy and a belly intead of a cunt
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Watch Harakiri
Make the guy's second indecisive about putting him down

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