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Ok, help a brainlet out. Ive finished chapter 3 and am so confused. I get that Oedipa and this Mzchenc or whatever guy are executing Pierce will. I dont quite get why Oedipa cucked his husband but whatever. What is Trystero? No matter how much I reread it I dont get what it is. No spoilers please.
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its like the central mcguffin of the book...

are you reading this because someone on /lit/ recommended it? have you considered that you might find stephen king or john de la carre more enjoyable. nothing wrong with that
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>>9522211
A simple explanation of what the fuck it is without ruining the whole story would suffice thank you
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just read it, the confusion is part of pynchon. And before you come back at me with a meme arrow, that is not to say you will always be confused. Just read it. Maybe you'll get it, maybe you won;t.

But Trystero is not something you would miss, really.

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>No anon we are not going to accept your story because it has one cliche in it.

>Yes we are going to publish story about cliche dystopian future YA that is nothing more than rehashing others YA novels

What do they mean by this? I'm trying to find an answer to this paradox. Can someone explain?
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Because your story is not profitable and shit, while the other story is profitable and shit
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>>9521480
>No anon, we don't like your story. However since we have the combined literary knowledge of a slightly above average high school student we can't really tell you why beyond that we don't think other retards like us would enjoy it. Here's one of five stock rejection phrases.
*publishes Wise Man's Fear without editing
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>>9521480
Nothing to explain anon.
People want to read the same rehash story. (I.E Hunger games knock offs, and Twilight knock offs.)

Agents will reject stories that uses cliche in the beginning and feel good about themselves, while simultaneously accepting a story that is heavily cliche-ridden from beginning to end.

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This is a silly book

>mfw Judges
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It's actually satire, but everyone took it seriously
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>>9521433
*tips fedora*
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>>9521407
Your face becomes the bible?

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So, was Meursault autistic?
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>>9520920
What do you think?
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>>9520925
Why would you respond to this thread you goddamn mongoloid
Now we're going to have a 300+ post thread of r/4chan niggers repeating the same stale memes so they can be in a screencap.
If NOBODY HAD BUMPED THE THREAD IT WOULD HAVE JUST DIED
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>>9520930
How ironic that I saged and you didn't.

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Schopenhauer, Nietzsche, __________ ?
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foucault
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schopenhauer
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>>9520538
Peterson

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what's the deal with this guy. is he worth reading? also ive heard he's sexist. is that true?
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>>9520205
HEHEHEHEHEHE ANOTHER EPIC IDENTITY POLITICS BAIT THREAD DISGUISED AS A LITERATURE THREAD

HEHEHE
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>>9520205
First-rate stylist but the stories and characters are dull.
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Has some great novels, but they are sometimes weighed down by Updike's ego, lack of empathy

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Just finished Butler's Gender Trouble.

Pretty amazing read. Butler is probably the most articulate feminist philosopher I've ever encountered.

Any recommendations?
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>>9520202
>Any recommendations?
Study biology.
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>>9520202
Don't give a shit about her feminism, but she wrote a great book on Hegel's influence on the 20th century French philosophers and their conception of desire.

>>9520349
wow really makes u think
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how about you read my c*ck and balls lmao

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I Want the Ideas, Fuck the Characters and the Plot edition

Fantasy
Selected:
>https://i.imgur.com/r688cPe.jpg
General:
>https://i.imgur.com/igBYngL.jpg
Flowchart:
>https://i.imgur.com/uykqKJn.jpg

Science Fiction
Selected:
>https://i.imgur.com/A96mTQX.jpg
>https://i.imgur.com/IBs9KE8.jpg
General:
>https://i.imgur.com/r55ODlL.jpg
>https://i.imgur.com/gNTrDmc.jpg

NPR's Top 100 Science Fiction & Fantasy Books:
>https://i.imgur.com/IJxTQBL.jpg


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>>9519916

If you really want to read a bunch of words written by Kevin J. Anderson then go ahead, it will most likely get you your Epic Fantasy IN SPACE fix and you might have some new books to shill to us because I don't think anyone else here has actually read them. But you should probably just start reading books off of this chart and then tell us which ones you like.
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first for books about
>dark souls
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>>9520213
This is actually a damn good chart. Though I would have worked Embassytown in on the last row somewhere.

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I'm reading pic related and it's the first time i've ready anything by nietzsche

What the fuck is happening? I'm nearly done with part one and I don't understand any of it
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>Happening
Did you think this was supposed to have a narrative or something?
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You're supposed to have the NT on the other hand, a tarot deck on the third and go slowly.
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read it slower, they are situations which contrast with the overman

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"We can easily see how LSD inverts the relationships of ill humor, stupidity, and thought: it no sooner eliminates the supremacy of categories than it tears away the ground of its indifference and disintegrates the gloomy dumbshow of stupidity; and it presents this univocal and acategorical mass not only as variegated, mobile, asymmetrical, decentered, spiraloid, and reverberating but causes it to rise, at each instant, as a swarming of phantasm-events. As it slides on this surface at once regular and intensely vibratory, as it is freed from its catatonic chrysalis, thought invariably contemplates this indefinite equivalence transformed into an acute event and a sumptuous, appareled repetition."
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he is just posturing, fluff
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I didn't understand shit
he looks like a supervillain in that pic
is he trying to say LSD is good or bad?
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>>9519928
>what is the meaning of this?
>post a text from a french fag

lol

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>genre fiction is awf-
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>>9519921
>I hate wome-
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>>9519931
10/10
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I need to go back and reread this beast. Wolfe being better on the second read is a reliable meme, plus when I read it through the first time it was intensely interesting and comfy.

I noticed a few open requests for short horror stories so I'm trying to write some. I've read some horror before, but I haven't written much, so I'm looking for advice.

What makes a horror story good? And how is a horror story different from a regular one? Considering it's a short story, how much build-up should there be until the horror is revealed? Or should it just jump right in? Any other advice you have is welcome. Thanks.

Also, feel free to post your horror writing and maybe we can critique each other.
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And while we're at it, might as well ask for suggestions of who to read for inspiration.
I've read some Lovecraft and Ligotti. A bit of Poe and King too.
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>>9519454
Read Shirley Jackson's The haunting of hill house for something different from what you mentioned.
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>>9519537
Oh yeah, I think I read that back in high school. That was a while ago, though I remember finding it interesting. Maybe I'll have to reread it. Thanks.

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>Be genius
>Rich family
>Live in a good country

I got all I want. That's not really true, but as I now know I can't ever get what I want, I might as well claim I got what I want.

I spend one part of my time developing systems alone in my room. Systems include things like societies, sciences, networks, devices, machines. Another part of my time I play to be a normal human.

Why should I share my work? I don't want to improve the society. I don't want anyone to feel better due to my contribution to the humanity. I don't care about the people. Before I die I will erase all my work.

I don't understand why people want stuff. I mean I do understand that why they want; I don't understand what should you want after you realize the futility of the origin of your wants.
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>>9518892
With this post you contributed to society.
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>>9518892
grats on your aspergers bro
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Noone cares though.

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Philosophies like Stoicism? Concerning working hard and the like.
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Buddhism
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>>9518219
>Concerning working hard and the like.
this is called being a numale full of spooks. so go to pol, out and sci
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>>9518219
Epicureanism
Maybe Confucianism

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So what's preventing you from making and finishing masterpieces similar to ulysses, gravity's rainbow and infinite jest?
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Lack of talent.
Lack of ambition.
Lack of diversity credentials.
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No discernable talent
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Lack of discipline.
Lack of energy.
Only very intelligent, not a genius.

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