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"Whom" should be deleted from the dictionary. It is totally useless and confusing. No one uses it outside of academic writing.
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>>9532890
Whom are you quoting?
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>>9532896
Whom'st should have he been quoting?
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OP is a brainlet whom cannot understand how to use the word.
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How do I start with the Greeks?
Other than the Odyssey/Iliad, I've already read it
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Homer, Hesiod, Pindar, Herodotus, Thucydides, the plays, the presocratics, Plato, Aristotle
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>>9532635
this except dump the presocratics and aristotle
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>>9532542
Plays, all of them. Pindar. All the philosophy. Hesiod. Theocritus. Sappho.
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The Death of the Author is a fucking great piece of literary criticism
>it has always seemed obvious to us that an author is a person who is responsible for a particular piece of work
>a writer, for example, would probably claim that he or she who the book, and therefore they were the author
>barth theorises that the whole notion of authorship needs to be rethought
>he argues that when a text is created, it is a multi-faceted manifestation of different cultures, ideas, languages, beliefs, theologies, philosophies etc
>so when a writer puts their pen to paper they believe that the ideas are their own, and when the book is finalised they claim to be the author of their creation
>the problem is that the self-proclaimed author has borrowed everything from previously existing texts that he or she has become aware of
>an example is, every word a writer has used is already in existence; these words on their own already have meaning derived from the earlier cultures and human expression
>so when we evaluate texts we tend to focus on the author, their ideas, methods, beliefs and ideologies
>however, Barthes explains none of the author's ideas are their own and probably belonged to no one in particular
>that being said, if it is not the author we should be looking towards to understand our art, then where should we turn?
>if the author is irrelevant, what gives such power to the text, what allows it to have such incredible purpose when we read or gaze upon it?
>Barthes believes we should look inside ourselves for the ultimate author
>we author the world; art, film, photography etc through our own interpretations and belief systems
>we ourselves ultimately decide what a text means, therefore creating new ideas and meanings in our mind
>the meaning of a text can only exist when interpreted, and anything can be interpreted in an infinite amount of ways
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>>9532526
I'm 14 and this is deep
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>>9532612
It took nearly 4000 years of literature for humanity to finally realise this
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>>9532614
No, humanity realized this since at least Nagarjuna.
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Best Non-Loeb Translation?
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Is Pope's translation any good?
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Only if you hate the greek
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>>9532367
So what if I don't hate the Greek, whats a good translation?
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Best position to read in?!?!?!?! 2017-05-21 02:30:45 Post No.9532337
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Best position to read in?!?!?!?!
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Help!!!!!!!
Reading a 800+ page book. It's quite heavy. Thank you!
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>>9532337
Get a Kindle and read however you like
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>>9532339
No. I'm reading House of Leaves. I could never.
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Sit down in a comfy chair in a well-lighted room.
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Hi /lit/,
About a year ago I started reading more, primarily fiction. But I wanted to start reading some non fiction because I think I'm a pleb when it comes to philosophy and political political philosophy. What are some books that are must read convert me from pleb to patrician? I took an intro to philosophy course at my uni and decided I was in love with Kant, Nietzsche, Existentialists like Sartre and Camus, and Buddhism. What books do you reccomend?
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>>9532249
Bump
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>>9532249
You should unironically read Greek and Roman philosophers.
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>>9532249
Just b urself
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I just read I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream by Harlan Ellison. It's a post-apocaliptic sci-fi short story about the last five human beings trapped in an artificial hell created by an entity called AM. Any thoughts on it?
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>>9532246
I enjoyed it. The game was really good too, on steam, but like most point and clicks you get stuck and it gets boring real quick listening to the same dialogue over and over.
Harlan Ellison helped write the game too.
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>>9532258
The game seems pretty good as an extension of the concept of the story, but there aren't many point and clicks i've enjoyed i'm not sure. Is it worth picking up?
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>>9532276
Ayer played the game recently. Really enjoyed it (not OP)
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Whats a good EPUB reader for windows 10?
Everything i have tried so far its utter shit without vertical layout and/or have poor rendering and a fucking 1999 UI that makes you consider committing suicide instead of reading the book
halp plz, cant afford an ipad
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>>9532154
Frieda is the only decent one in terms of bookshelf organization, and a safe 7/10 in reading. Try it
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uncomfy :<(
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>>9532154
Who is this pump it strumpet?
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>tfw
>he can speak off the cuff
>more convincingly than you can write
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>>9531977
>tfw
>you don't know how to
>greentext
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>>9531977
he obviously rehearses lines to say
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>>9531979
projecting this hard
try again Judas
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Let's talk publishing:
Have you been published?
What did you publish?
Where did you submit?
Entering contests?
For those more experienced:
Is it better to have been published by 50 smaller-mid size presses or a couple of big names?
I'm the former and I'd like to publish my first collection of poetry but am unsure if my "stats" so to speak are good enough for publishers.
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I've had three short stories published, but none of them in really high-profile venues. I've tried to shoot a little higher in the last year, and I have several short stories out for submission.
I haven't entered any contests in a while, but I may change that. Apparently they're good opportunities to get agents interested in your work? Or at least that's what I've heard.
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>>9532295
How many do you need for a book?
I can never find good places for short stories. I feel like there's only high tier or completely obscure tier with no in between
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>>9532295
how come no one will answer me on here about where to send my short stories?
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What are your opinions? Should I give pic-related a try?
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It's arguably the most important formative work for contemporary fiction.
It's historical and mythological validity is questionable though. So it depends what you're reading for.
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>>9531899
Very comfy, but use it as a stepping stone into comparative mythology rather thn as a summation of it.
Also, can anyone get me a link to the Skeleton Key to Finnegans Wake? I can payback by uploading some lectures about Joyce by him, though I haven't listened to them yet.
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I've had it in my to-read box for like a year. Not sure I'll ever pick it up.
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Is there a better translation of the Brothers K? This one was highly recommended to me, but I just finished the Grand Inquisitor chapter and I'm so bothered by the prose at this point don't know if I made the right pick.
I have a hard time seeing how any people, Russian or English-speaking, could possibly converse like this; and based on the introduction that seems like the exact opposite that Dostoevsky's writing is supposed to have. I also find myself having to go over paragraphs multiple times to understand what is trying to be said, as it's needlessly wordy and somewhat robotic at points.
If these are actual features of Dostoevsky's writing style, I can deal with it. But I can't help feeling that there's a better alternative for an English speaker.
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>>9531869
That's actually the worst translation. Literalism is total shit. Try Garnett instead
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>>9531869
P&V are shite.
Avsey, MacAndrew, and McDuff are great contemporary translations that maintain the spirit of Dostoyevsky's message while crossing the cultural rift with fluid, readable dialogue and prose.
If you get the Garnett be sure and get one that's edited and revised because hers isn't perfect.
I read MacAndrew and it was excellent
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>>9531869
You chose the reddit translation.
Get Constance Garnett or Megashark.
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I'm not the only person who got turned on, horny, and raging boners from reading Crash, right? I mean there's such an air of intense sexuality around all the details and writing style.
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>>9531675
>still having libido and potency
not gonna make it, bro
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>>9531684
If this is true for you, why aren't you exclusively posting on wizchan?
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warm
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I see you pussies are starting to read my books. Not as hard as you thought ehhhh?
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>Not as hard as you thought ehhhh?
your books? no, quite easy really. i thought we were dealing with serious literature at first, but ah, i see now it is a wet pudding pabulum and little more
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>>9531674
What the fuck did you just say to me kiddo? I'll have you know I wrote 13 full length novels! 2 sets of short stories. Multiple essays. 1 giant fucking meme I could kill you with (literally and figuratively). Smash your head in with a first edition of women and men. I've written dozens of articles for scholarly journals. Won a McArthur genious grant. Taught at 7 ivy league schools and had an entire wing named after me at Harvard. I've written one of the longest novels in the history of literature and I'm currently writing a 10 set nom fiction anthology on water and it's affects. WHAT THE FUCK HAVE YOU DONE KIDDO?
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Only read Smugglers Bible, how indicative is it of his style?
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What is the Middle Earth of steam punk writing? Is there like a book which sets up all those tropes we see in the genre?
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The Lord of the Brass Steam Piston Rings?
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>>9531419
Europe
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>>9531419
>Middle Earth
>steam punk
>tropes
>genre