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I don't know if I should be posting this to /his/ or /sci/ (preferably not the latter) --- if a mod feels this thread is out of place, feel free to move it ---, but I'm looking for works about astronomy and physical cosmology, which would be available to the layman. I'm a classical studies major, but I've studied science for a short while in college ; I'm somewhat familiar with calculus and the basics of astronomy : and thus I'm looking for works beyond mere saganesque vulgarization, but which do not require actual studies in the field.

Also, astrology/cosmology/scientific literature general?
I've been reading Leibniz lately, has anyone else been tackling this author Spengler deems the most intelligent man to have ever walked this earth?
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>>9534653
astronomy***

Sorry about the typo
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Ask your professor
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>>9534653
While I can't recommend any books on cosmology for the layman that isn't egregious pop-science, I would recommend getting into the burgeoning field of the philosophy of cosmology. Try John Barrow's "The Anthropic Cosmological Principle" and the upcoming "Philosophy of Cosmology" anthology from Cambridge.

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Redpill me on him. Why does he put Chinese characters smack-bang-in-the-middle of some Cantos?
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>>9534597
Because he's peak pseud
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>>9534597
https://books.google.com/books?id=khNMqQUEAPMC&printsec=frontcover&dq=fenollosa+chinese+written+character&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjniJfFtoHUAhUs6YMKHX4NCKoQuwUILzAG#v=onepage&q&f=false

Read the last essay on the Chinese written character. It is HEAVILY edited by Pound to for his agenda, and may help give some perspective on why he liked Chinese characters. Note that this is more about what Pound thinks of the characters than the characters themselves.

Its been a while since I've actually read it, but as I recall there are 2 important factors here. First, that the characters are visual representations of what they mean. Second, theyre verbal rather than nominal, showing the action/movement inherent in nature.

Since Pound is trying to create images with his poems, these characters are well suited to his purpose.
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>>9534597
>Redpill me
Kill yourself

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Does mental illness make you a better writer?
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>>9534595
Yes.
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>>9534595
the non linearity is genius
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>>9534595
What is this?

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Is this the biggest blueballs in literature?
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>>9534535
>he wants closure in books
MY SIDES
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>>9534535
No, in Haruki Murakami's Dance, Dance, Dance the main character (34 yo man) befriends a teenage girl and doesn't even fuck her and shit.
Sometimes I wanna live vicariously through my books. Not all the time, I get art ok? But sometimes. Fucking a tight little hardbody being her first time and whatnot, that's the male dream.
That's what Burke was talking about man, seriously.
Yeah it's not legal, it's not in great taste but you gotta bend the rules to have fun, you don't go to war over a 'lil pusspuss.
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>>9534535
This shit is unreadable to be honest.

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camera:cinema

instrument:music

???:literature
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The mighty Kindle
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>>9534308
Writing implement

/thread
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Brain.

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Just got this stack from the local flea market for less than 8 USD. They're all used/discarded books. Apart from a couple of them, which are mildly damaged, the rest in a pretty good condition. The Fitzgerald even looks like its brand new and just came from Amazon.

How did I do, /lit/?
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Holy fuck, I don't care. Just read the books.
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>>9534278
I was in a comfy bookstore out in the country the other day. The whole place smelled of pipe tobacco and was really nice. The books were too expensive for me though, at least $10 for most of the used books. I don't think he wants to sell the books to be honest; pretty sure he's just a hoarder.
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>>9534278
I hate most of those books but you did very well.

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Hey, /lit/, third-world faggot here. I love japanese literature but in my country is pretty difficult to find anything that isn't horribly-translated murakami novels and new-wave haikus.
In my city's group of used books, a random guy just posted this. I don't know its autor, but apparently Haruka is some kind of renowned sci-fi writer. I don't know if it's him though.

tldr should I buy this? Need help
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what does he mean by tradition?
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>the previous phase, limited in its extent, had been that of the Romantic hero: the man who feels hilself alone in the face of divine indifference, and the superior individual who despite everything reaffirms himself in a tragic context. he breaks accepted laws, but not in the sense of denying their validity; rather, he claims for himself exceptional rights to what id forbidden, be it good or ill. the process exhausts itself, for example, in a man like MAX STIRNER, who saw in all morality the ultimate form of the divine fetish that was to be destroyed. he denounced the "beyond" that exists within man and that tries to give him rules as being a "new heaven" that is merely the insidious transposition of the external, theological beyond, which has been negated. with this conquest of the "interior god" and the exaltation of the "unique" that is free from tules and "rests its cause on nothingness," opposing itself to every value and pretense of society, STIRNER marks the end of the road trodden by the nihilistic social revolutionaries (to whom the term nihilism was originally applied)-but trodden in the name of the utopian social ideas in whih they always believed; ideas such as "justice", "liberty", and "humanity," as opposed to the injustice and tyranny that they saw in the existing order.

what did he mean by this? i get his point about the people leading up to stirner, but not really sure how any of what he says would actually apply to stirner
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>>9534080
Short in abstract terms.
The transcendent relation of man to himself, his kin and extended kin.
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>>9534080
His feelings.

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Tragedy, is fundamentally a drama form which focuses on human suffering, invoking an accompanying catharsis. Why do so many philosophers and artists through history consider tragedy as pinnacle of arts?

Also is tragedy inherently a Western art form? It seems to be so historically. While many other civilization did produce works in tragedy genre, none placed so much focus and praise on tragedy like the Western civilization did.
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My reply from other thread.

Tragedy as art form is the most truest and noble of all art forms.

That being said, other cultures did create works in tragic genre. But for example, a Hindu or a Muslim would not comprehend tragedy in same way a Euro would.
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>>9533844
the real tragedy is that you chose that 'painting' for this thread
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>>9533933
Why is tragedy the truest form of art?

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1. How many people read without first reading the Greeks?

2. Why aren't the Greeks widely taught in schools?

3. Is someone who hasn't read the Greeks able to derive anything from what they're reading? If not, do they realise this?
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>>9533656
1. Most people

2. They used to be, but now with the advent of public schooling it is obvious that it would be impossible to teach the average person Ancient Greek.

3. No. If you haven't read the Greeks, you are completely lost. Think of all those shitty writers in the past who didn't know Greek, retards like Dante, and Shakespeare.
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>>9533665
2 + 3. English translations, I mean.
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I learned a lot about the Greeks in school because I didn't receive >american education
we read plays, myths, poems in the literature class and studied ancient history, art and architecture in history. I also had an ethics/philosophy class.

I assume most Europeans are knowledgeable about the Greeks

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Name a more pretentious book
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>>9533626
my diary desu
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>>9533644
yo, i just got this in the mail. is it bad? i read blow-up and it wasn't that pretentious

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What more do I need to read to become the master of pre-modern oriental literature on /lit/?
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>>9533485
>Read postmodern western book about the history of western perception of the orient
I'd rather read actual oriental works, instead of works that force their view of the orient on me.
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>>9533494
>instead of works that force their view of the orient on me.

it encourages to question your implicit assumptions about "the orient". How can you truly understand these texts if your default setting is to see them through your western, imperialist mindset. to truly understand one thousand and one nights, for example, you need to understand the baggage you are bringing to the text.

>post-modern

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA NEWB

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So The Book Chemist is now an SJW.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ss-IfFjf0AY
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Literally whom?
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BookChemist will always be based
And Cliff is also based
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>>9533249

ecelebs

stop

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https://www.theverge.com/2017/5/20/15653006/nebula-awards-2016-winners-science-fiction-fantasy-charlie-jane-anders
Nebula Award winners have been announced
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>io9 co-founder Charlie Jane Anders walked away with the award for Best Novel. In her acceptance speech, she said that she constantly wrestled with the idea that she wasn’t good enough to write All the Birds in the Sky, and that she hoped that her award means that the next person arguing with themselves will be able to “tell the voices to shut up and go and write their frickin’ book”.
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>>9533138
Sounds wholesome.
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Can someone do a rundown of how many of the winners and nominees were transvestites or otherwise some kind of female'n'brown cocktail?

Is there books on how to write a book? like is there a standard model i have to follow before i add in my style into it? I'm guessing English basics like paragraph structure, grammar, and writing proper sentences and stuff like that comes into play but even after all the basics, is there more? like plot, sub plot, character development, stuff like that? like are there books on how to write horror or how to create a certain type of character, or even to get a certain emotion from a reader when writing. I've heard /lit/ say that you should practice writing if you read a lot and i agreed with that statement.
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>>9532907
no bro just do what you want
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Does anyone else feel like they can write, but just can't ever read what other people have written, it hurts me just looking at it that way but narcissism is constant, if you hate it, imagine not being to care about anyone but yourself. I want so badly for people to value me, in way that benefits them, that's how a self centered person attempts to be empathetic. This is legitimately a disease, this won't mean anything to me if you don't like it, but maybe while I kill myself trying to write something you like, I could help you somehow, help you to understand me and just the human condition, I'm just a really conceited guy, but my own love, wouldn't be enough, if I could find it, in this disaster, I call a life.
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just bee yourself

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