Internalized Misogyny edition.
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Jon a best desu too bad he sold out
First for Eliot is a annoying lunatic that has been plaguing the Internet for the past six (6) years.
Just using that t. shit tells me how much you are projecting.
no bully imma girl just early hrt not everyone starts out pretty
who else is totally going to get a boob job this year?
If I were just ugly I'd have posted already; my appearance is evidence of how little effort I've really put into trying to transition, I don't need people giving me grief for being pathetic, I manage to hate myself on my own well enough.
yea it gets annoying
I'm only 3 months hrt there is only a much that can be done I dress andro when I'm not at school and I practice hair makeup and voice
im not gunna magically look like a girl over night buy ur being down right rude to misgender me and then wrongly presume things about my life and throw around D accusations.
like wtf these threads are for transgirls to help each other and talk about trans stuff not try to run ppl away bc they aren't "trans enough" (as if that were even a thing) ease up and stop being so critical ill present female when I'm further along in my transition
dw when u get qt u'll show them.
i made the mistake of posting a pic of myself early hrt too. thankfully it wasn't linked to this name.
dw bb I'm actually p happy this isn't a new thing random anons have been doing this since the very first time I posted. I get misgendered and told I'm not trans all the time and cuz I'm ugly and early hrt
its just the way it is here
yeah they'll try and put you down for anything they can. glad to see you're stronger than that :) if you ever wanna talk or want advice on anything im usually in the kageshi room too
>tfw when im squatting my face is all scrunched up and i look like im about drop drop a huge shart
man if i wasn't holding a barbell or w/e people would probably think i was about to unleash chocolate thunder on the squat rack
I have a question about passing; I know that shoulders are generally hard to hide and a big tell, but how wide are wide shoulders? Will I get clocked for 17" shoulders, or will I pass?
>No but i want DD's
I heard there was some way to do lipo in combination with a boob job, using the stem cells in fat to make your boobs grow like 2 cup sizes. Looks more real than silicone or saline. Could be worth a look.
yeah, that's why I generally post any selfies under anon
>tfw in San Fran
>pass every girly shop because you're a monster
>can't try things on, have to dress like a man
Well I'm just going to weeb the fuck out then
>tfw felt urgency to transition but it wasn't stronger than your fear of change until it was too late to get any kind of decent results at all
look up the average of womens shoulders in your country or state, then compare. also posture helps.
look up the average shoulder width for women and men in ur country, then compare, also posture helps a lot.
that's cool, if you want we can add each other on skype. do you have a throwaway e-mail or something i can send my skype to?
i mean that's if you want
Apparently my mom told my grandparents I'm trans. They didn't care!
Oh wow I love weaboo shops. There's this Japanese market not too far from me and they have a book-store in there where they sell some figures and manga and really neat stuff. I picked up a couple artbooks last time I went.
>that's like saying no cis girl grows more than a DD
No it isn't. I never heard of a post puberty mtf that grew anything over a b cup. As for cis women, sky is the limit. My 19 year old sister is an E cup.
Iktf. I was sitting next to a non-binary at Starbucks earlier, she seemed fairly cool. I over heard that she goes to the pride club so I might try to go to that next week. It would just be nice to have another mtf friend who could help teach me things or vice versa and just hang out with all the time.
I mean, I realized what was up as soon as I saw it posted in reply to more than one person; I was just unlucky in that the first one seems to have been posted so I was able to suspend my disbelief for a bit. It's fine anyways, I'm over it; I'm back to feeling sad about being male and starting transition so late instead so I'm basically back to my baseline at this point, haha.
tfw boymode failing
tfw need to come out soon
tfw entire shitty process of legally becoming a woman
You heard me; I envy shemales, at least they have a purpose in life.
the sister brother comment was a joke and if you didn't get it then its not my fault you are as thick as a bowl of oatmeal. Also in your old pic from a year ago you clearly had implants so its not my fault to state the truth.
Those are like tanner 2, and your areolae are pretty big, so I imagine you'll get like a C.
Just a hunch though, take it with a grain of salt.
good to hear, I guess.
you said something about selfies and timestamps, which drew enough attention to make it look out of place
> mfw I've been chasing an impossible dream this whole time.
Unfortunately, my story was of fiction.
does your gf know you basically pretend she's adri
Late reply cuz I hurt myself in class but its no my skype is
ouch! hope you're ok. and i sent you an add, im gonna go to bed cos i have a lot of lesson planning to do, but i'll hopefully speak to you tomorrow :)
iktf. my entire life is dysphoria or avoiding it.
How many of you do you think are just depressed perverts and not actually transgender at all? I feel like it would be extremely easy for someone to falsely convince themselves that they're transgender, or confuse something that they're feeling with dysphoria.
I mean, when I feel like a girl, the dysphoria goes away. I think that's a pretty clear sign.
tfw when no boyfriend to go to a road trip in the forest with while we play this song on the stereo
/mtfg/ used to be so fun to lurk in you trips suck
>mfw I discover I'm transgender
Srsly though, your gender identity is something that's quite deep inside you. It's not like you cahnge it on whim, unless your genderfluid or something. Most actual transgendered people have gone through their share of doubtings. It's the people who are acting trans because it's the new big thing you have to be worried about. It is, however very plausible that a depressed pervert thinks that they are transgender, however how far they would get through a serious transition is not know to me.
It's true. These new trips are horrible.
she sounds like a little loli when shes getting dommed too
Do something different then, you say she's jealous of me when I even give you attention and now you're repeating the same thing as when I hung out with you... ? Take her out to the carnival or a beach or getaway in a cabin or something and make it unique then.
I hope not. Faye and her gf need to stay together.
>d-don't bully me
That is a beautiful road. I want to drive now desu...
>tfw literal worst tier face and ribcage
there's a ~70% chance I'm gonna off myself this year, gonna see how the next 6 months go first but yeah at this rate I've already seen my last christmas.
hey someone told me that angles help make you more attractive
>tfw too much vidya
>tfw time flies by so fast when you're old
pretty much yes thats exactly my face
I've never raped or murdered anyone though and I've never even had sex.
can you imagine a guy, who is even tall enough to stand above me... looking down and seeing that.
I am a joke, an ugly old man.
do they have honehone shokugan or pic related?
i passed in every aspect before i even started hrt. you are the only person in this general, or in the trans community as a whole, that i would use this fact against.
i despise you and every aspect of you and the sooner you neck yourself the better for the planet.
I'm sorry things turned out so badly, Sheen. You have a good heart and you deserve to happy as much as any of us do
Maybe in the next life
Yeah, I know, and I know why too. Don't make me start crying about it again.
>I know virtually nothing of your situation, yet am happy to give out advice about killing ones' self.
Anybody here use weight loss drugs? What are the best and QUICKEST WORKING? I've been trying to get skinny to see whether my bone structure is shit-tier or whether it's just the fat which is fucking me over but now I'm 4 months on hrt and it's getting real difficult. Money is not a problem. Anybody got exp.?
If you're just looking for better HRT distribution, try holding off food on the weekends to lose some of the male pattern muscle and fat and then eating normally during the weekdays to gain more female pattern.
If you just want to lose weight altogether, just force yourself not eat so much.
>tfw recently starting wanting an mtf gf
so am I bi now, or?
I'd never date a cis girl
vaginas are grody ya feel
I bought a weeb shirt, but my gf said I can't wear it because I'm not wearing a bra
I'm pretty sure that's not true but it's okay, I don't hate you for it.
i don't see it desu senpai. i don't see how ffs could save me either.
>tfw no future
an addendum to this: black coffee and nicotine, however you ingest it, willmake you not hungry at all. i'm on 450 mg of the shit with minimal ill effects too. you might get a headache and stuff, but ymmv
yo. How much dick do I have to suck to not be hated cause I'm cis here
i asked them, but they were still saying these memes. i know i don't have a chance tho.
you don't even know what I look like. Unless you lurk, then that's a different story
i hope you get raped and murdered, outsider
fucking white devils
alright. Well you do lurk. gratz.
but that's not very nice though
>saving the thumbnail
didn't even realize that
So I actually havent experienced any dysphoria over the past few days. Should I be worried? Is my mind finally accepting that im way too tall and ugly to ever pass as a girl so its finally dealing with being a guy? Im scared. Maybe I should start lifting...
as I said, I have nothing better to do
and don't h8 on my genes my parents gave those to me
all of you thinking being 100 percent passing and stealth is what you want are wrong. every time i date there is a huge potential for facing a rejection. at least if i didn't pass so well they would have an idea.
sometimes i wish i didn't pass so well.
i envy some of you ugly fucks sometimes.
i do tell them and that's when there is a potential for rejection. if i didn't pass and didn't have to tell them, there would be no need for this and my dates would automatically be open minded enough for dating a trans girl.
>tfw all this not lifting when working out makes me feel a little weak
Except in the legs since all I do is cardio stuff.
It kinda hit me when I was out this weekend and a few people referred to me as a guy. Like it didnt even bug me in my head. Well it did a little.
I dunno. Maybe its just time to face reality.
but i am 100 percent passing and stealth. i am post op but i still want to tell them i am a trans woman before doing anything sexual with them. the fact i have to tell them makes me 100 percent, i've not told before and gotten away with it.
You don't need to be a wreck or dysphoric constantly. You don't need to be triggered each and every time you're reminded of something masculine. Sometimes I'm okay like you were and other times I'm just a mess.
Are you flying to another state to engage in a non stealth dating lifestyle then flying home to be actually stealth elsewhere? You sound super not stealth if you're letting people who live in the same area as you know you're a transsexual. You're confusing passing and stealth.
let's be real here, normies would post butt
>implying everyone on these threads posts butt
what are you dysphoric about mtfg?
>tfw hairline and jawline
How do I come out to my dad? I think I probably should soon but I'm not sure what to say
never bc its soft and light enough that yume never really notices and if I shaved it it'd feel sharp growing back instead of feeling pretty smooth. It doesnt really show in pictures either
also I'm lazy
>tfw never posted butt or feet and dont really intend to
although I might one day if I'm drunk enough
Stealth is lying because you feel its necessary. It sounds like you're mostly just passing with casual non disclosure, also commonly referred to as "just passing"
If you have a legitimate reason to stealth and you're playing catch and release with random dudes who are in any way adjacent to your social circle or work life, you're just creating a minefield.
Either you're stealth and foolishly trying to destealth yourself, or much more likely, you're just a typical passer who is not stealth but likes to pretend.
think what you want, whether i am a casual passer and not truly stealth, i don't care to argue with a hon about some autistic transgender definition. none of what you're saying is helpful, it's just contentious so fuck right off and contain the anger you have towards yourself, don't splash your bullshit onto me. fucking bitter ass moron
Don't worry, unpassers are bitter and hate the thought of someone else being stealth. So they try to tell you how you are not stealth. It's a ridiculous thing they do.
I understand your problem, the best policy is to tell them as soon as you can.
every single time I visited relatives growing up they'd tell me how tall I'm getting and it just made me feel so shitty
I never wanted to be tall pls stop reminding me kthx
I'll never be really short and cute, but at least I'm not as tall as they used to make me feel
What's the difference between men's and women's bathrooms?
I don't think we have those here.
You're emotionally attached to the idea of stealth and flipping out that I'm challenging it.
I'm literally not jealous of stealth. Non stealth, 100% passer, "doesn't tell but no implications on life if people who knew you before tell"
Get as upset as you want, but don't come crying to me when seven degrees of separation bites you in the ass.
the solution is simple
good luck anon~
>tfw everyone told you how much you look leike your dad
>tfw they were right
>mom is home every day all day
>no privacy to practice my voice ever
>leave home at 8am
>get back at 8pm
JUST i wanna lay down and sleep forever desu