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You're not pathetic, don't say that about yourself. I'm sure people do care about you. Someone will even love you like that some day, too. Don't get beat up about it but go get some sleep, it might help you feel better.
fuck u cyba i dont need a timestamp u know its me u fuckin nigger
How do I stop feeling gross?
Get FFS and an BA. Feel good about yourself after a couple long months of healing. Git gud at voice.
Suddenly, life is perfect. Then you're just making up for lost time and basically going through ages 14-21 all over again, just time accelerated. Or you'll want to anyway.
>just spent all my gas and food money that was supposed to last me until the 26th on that laser groupon
i don't really regret it /yet/ but i wonder if my mom will let me live at her house for a few days for food...
Why didn't you mention that when you were talking about the groupon, how are you gonna live if she says no??
i'm also watching the babadook with my friend...
i don't think i'm going to sleep tonight...
i have rice and beans and pancake stuff and a bit of eggs and beef and stuff, i think i can make it a week and a half or so...
But you don't?
Hey! Yume! Someone was impersonating you earlier... :-)Do I see butt in the background? Both anon and I want to move to Portland the tranny mecca. Do you recommend?
Might as well get voice surgery too if you are spending that kind of money.
Kayla here is your ticket
Isn't Suporn one of if not the best
yes i do recommend very much i could show ya around
thats adri butte desu
and that person wasnt impersonating me i dont think
only one person made a fake post last thread d00d
i would honestly rather go week without food than deal with facial hair. i've become more confident in my voice and i'm no longer really dysphoric about it.
my facial hair is the only thing that bothers me anymore...
>Red: Fag in a wig
>Yellow: Pass, but look "off"
>Green: Would probably believe they're women without question
Why didn't u use the real trip group pic
>ye old "you have to be a 8 or a 9 and white" or I'd clock you argument
It's literally divided by attractiveness, knowing they're trans before hand, I've actually done this in soc class, regular looking women get clocked if you tell them every woman is trans in a group.
holy crackers sex is amazing oh and I'm not a virgin any more
its by the same girl she's my first everything .///.
first valentine first gf first kiss first partner
the babadook is SO scary fuck
also, the groupo price changed to $75 like RIGHT after i bought it and they sent me an email saying they gave me back the difference!
i have like 15 for groceries for the next 11 days so i should be okay..
wha? Louisiana is super far from Washington tho. That's where u stay right?
Circe and Edie are extremely cute woc, and yes in 2016 Asian women are treated like white women, they actually earn more on average, get arrested less, and arent shown prejudice by white men like black and Hispanic women are on online dating sites.
Korra is shit compared to The Last Airbender. Tlab was the best show ever made tho
That would be cool
I never took selfies before I started transition. Now I like my body for the first time in my life. Also to prove I am cyba and not anon.
They are in Portland Oregon. I live in Minnesota. My sister lives in Mt. Hood Oregon. That's close to Portland.
wonder where the Louisiana sheriff went to? well you can sure get lost in the Louisianan bayou
yeah sounds like a blast
it's hardly anonymity, two people can identify me on that last sentence alone. simply put though, illness.
i feel as his approval was everything to me and without it i have lost the confidence and susceptibility to compliments and affection. i wouldn't make a good wife anymore as my heart isn't in it for anyone else right now.
If you see this monkey, please contact your local police. He is the original AGP carrier.
>tfw I will never have pity sex with a fat coworker girl on valentines day. and also be black.
neither of us are fat and were dating now so I dont think it's pity
I'm doing very well actually. I'm working, I'm getting prepared to go back to school, I'm with a wonderful girl. Feels like life is about as good as it's gonna get for me right now.
How are you doing Anon?
Can I crash at your place senpai? I promise I'll be a good roomie
I will bring pre-cum soaked femdicks and innie vaginas to my new empire.
as long as you continue that lewd attutude you're welcome senpai
stop trying to freeload your pathetic existence and actually fucking make an effort into forwarding your transition instead of just crying about your simply epik dysphoria every day. you're a worthless parasite to society and to the general.
*executes transbian order 66*
>tfw too tall and will never pass and starting to wonder why Im wasting my time trying this
>You will never wander the sea of informatiom
>Free from flesh and blood shackles
>tfw ywn have a precum soaked penis again
>tfw ywn get turned on by the fact you're a girl that has a penis and furiously masturbate in the mirror to your penis
>tfw aap forever unfulfilled
Tbqh 4chan is my only social outlet right now. I dropped all my friends so I didn't have to tell them I am mutilating myself to trick men into crude gay sex
Its fighting me
Transitioning already makes boys trashy so why not tbdesu
Trust no one
YOU WERE THE CHOSEN ONE
What's wrong anon?
What source? She didn't sound worse than usual
Just slut it up kuppy
Height doesn't matter. Shoulders are the only thing that can't be fixed
>Really want to finger myself tonight and cum anally
>Just took a huge poop
you say that type of shit all the time. you wish there was an easy way out and you've obviously made zero effort into anything. you literally just sit here all day posting about how crippling dysphoria is while living full-time as a male without hrt, while trying to act cutesy with your anime and l-l-lewd posting. XD. like at least that unsalvageable ape korra is on hrt, you have zero excuse. how about you get a job and see a gp?
I'll leave then if that's what you want
I'll come back when I've made a step (getting a job)
idk senpai, doesn't sound suicidal to me
How come anons never drive you out? Don't mean anything by it I'm just curious.
They're so vehement about this being a TRUTRANS only general and anyone pre-HRT is by default a fetishist who must leave.
But an openly cis girl is fine.
Man, after I'm all healed up from FFS I'll try my luck at this.
H-hopefully I get a green circle. We'll see. The last time I posted my pre-FFS picture you folks seemed to think that I passed 100%, but had a pretty damn masculine forehead that dampened it.
We'll see. God I hope so.
>What's wrong anon?
I'm alone, nobody likes me, I'm a burden on the people who do, I'm mentally ill so I can't help but feel like even those few people dont care about me. I havent had friends in years I never fit in anywhere and I should just be dead. There is no point to my existence. It's just nothing but suffering.
okay so the babadook was a really good movie, just nowhere as scary as i thought it would be. i don't even really think i would call it a horror movie. i think its more of just a story of that family's depression and coping with loss and stuff.
the entire time i just felt sorry for them.
the first half of insidious is still the scariest thing i've ever seen though.
You're a unpassable tranny with a xbox hueg forehead that won't ever be passable with a dude face. Nobody wants to see your spammed selfies or your ass. Seriously the only people that respond to you are as pathetic as you are. I've seen dozens of trannies like you come and go. Every time all the normal well adjusted trannies just cringe at people like you.
>cute girl mutual likes me on okc
>she turns out to be trans halfway through the conversation
>sure, w/e, qt grilldick
>she links me a twitter post
>it's talking about her SRS two days ago
She has a cute face, but I have no idea how I'd deal with a disgusting, horrific gaping wound built of the remnants of her dick.
I'm trans too, I'm just disgusted by the repulsive products of invasive surgical butchery.
I have one that was taken a while ago but it's closer to a mug shot than anything else. Like, my eyes are half-closed. It's sooo embarrassing, and I'm not smiling or anything!
Hair is disorderly in it too. It was taken hastily oh god now I'm nervous all over again.
Is that okay?
>been in stealth mode for years
>small frame and feminine face already
>not many pictures of myself, no social media
>so nobody has noticed any change besides my skin looking nicer
>had a growth spurt in my chest this fall and winter
>it's not impossible for me to hide my tits under a fugg
What constitutes using my penis? I don't like fucking, but I do like stroking it/having it stroked. Especially while being fucked.
Nah, fuck your meme terms. Stealth means being sneaky, I've been sneakily transitioning for 2 years now. Nobody knows except my girlfriend and a few other close friends.
P-please no bully. I didn't have time to do my hair and tried to fix it up quickly to go out for lunch, and oh god I was a total mess, As per usual my eyes were half-closed in the photo so it looks like I have terrible hooding when I really don't. I didn't even have makeup on and I was still doing major facial electrolysis so I have a bit of shadow. I'm not even smilling because I kept messing up the picture BY smiling.
It's also a terrible photo please excuse.
Only getting minor FFS. I already have plenty of acne scarring from having crazy high testosterone in puberty, but I'll be getting a chemical peel or dermabrasion in the near future to help it along.
I don't understand this. I want to be a cis girl with all my heart, and so I don't think I could date someone who wasn't... normal, especially for stability reasons. Could never date a FtM because I like the D too much.
Nah, I'll just keep using words properly thank you. I won't ask you to practice your ability to read properly and make use of logical thought, because if you had any interest in doing that you would have already.
Life exists outside of your meme bubble, there is more to living and being trans than knowing all the proper lingo.
you sure showed him with all that damage control sir :^))))))
Yep, that's me.
> You pass and look like a soccer mom
;_;. I'm 23. I don't want to look like a mom, damnit.
Am I attractive? Ugly? Or what?
This isn't a meme bubble though. Stealth is living full time and not disclosing assigned birth gender like ever. The term has been around since forever in the trans community.
Like, it was pretty obvious what you meant tho.
It's like, 4 AM where I live. I can't do it right now because I'm living with my folks while I get my shit together. I just happen to be a chronic insomniac.
I have cheek apples though, if that's what you're wondering.
I...is that a bad thing?
Like, out of 10, where would I land with 5 being average? Assume smiling.
God, what if I'm hideous. Well, I guess I can sorta live with being an ugly girl, but at least I pass... I guess... Might be hard to find a bf though.
Oh I know exactly what people use the term "stealth mode" for, but it also completely applied to what I was saying and I happen to like the term. Language!
Like you said, it was obvious what I meant and you have to be a pretty petty person to get this riled up over somebody not strictly using the TRUTRANS definition of a term.
I take it you don't actually know what a meme is? Anyway it's not semantics because the term "stealth mode" hasn't evolved or changed, it still means exactly what I said it did for the whole world. The only difference is it has been given a memetic definition by a niche internet group.
I used the term properly, I just didn't use it in a what that adheres to your meme.
Nonsense. I've always had a very feminine and outgoing personality, I just inevitably repressed it when I hit university because of the workload.
So it's gradually returning to the norm that I was at during highschool of being overly emotional about every little thing.
>I have cheek apples though, if that's what you're wondering.
I don't care what you have, I just think you look cute and I want to see a photo of you that isn't an unflattering mugshot.
Now who's damage controlling? Look, anon, I'm sorry you lack the reading comprehension to understand that words and phrases can take on multiple meanings through a given context.
C-cute? Did someone actually call me cute?!
I might be average-looking but someone actually called me cute for the first time in my life! I'm crying from happiness. Thank you god, something good happened for once. Wooooooooo!
No seriously, the first time I put on makeup early on in this whole adventure I cried, and cried, and cried from happiness and I experienced the deepest euphoria that I had felt in my entire pitiful existence that lasted for a full week before subsiding, because it made me feel like I *could* do this.
For once I go to bed happy! I'll have good dreams for once instead of those pesky nightmares! Maybe I'll there'll actually be a happy ending to this long depressing saga!
I'll take it all back if you don't post a picture of yourself smiling in this general sometime soon.
I don't think you should look at the word "meme" and think I was using the actual word. That's why I assumed you didn't know what it meant, and I'm still pretty sure you don't.
I'll remind you that you started this kerfuffle because you were upset that I used language properly, not because I used the word "meme."
>N-nooooooooooo! Don't take away my happiness! That's just crueeeeeeeeeeeel!
Then take a smiling picture of yourself, cutie. I mean it.
Studying abroad in Canada.
Oh god you're making me melt. I can't imagine how I'd react to having a loving boyfriend who whispers sweet nothings into my ear on a daily basis. Heck, even just laying down with one in bed would be so embarrassing I think I'd burst a gasket and faint.
I'm way too innocent for this. I didn't even masturbate as a guy until I was like, 20, and even then I started with grinding and stuff. I don't know what I'd do if a guy came onto me. Do I know how to say 'no'? Would I want to? I don't know, I don't bloody know it's just all too murky.
I'm not going to think about it too hard and go back to watching Kaichou ha Maid-sama. Usui is a hottie.
Calm down, I'm just a girl who thinks you look cute. Post a picture of you smiling and I may end up sexually attracted to you though.
hello I am just here to post ronnie acting like an anime
>have to apply for jobs to get neetbux
>tfw keep getting job interviews
Leave me alone I just want to be a neet!
For me it's more I picked up on what guys do and how they act and stuff for fear of being gay. I wanted to pay attention to girls and get into all of that but if i did i'd be gay and that wasn't good.
>watching steven universe for the first time and see this
> Someone on the internet may be sexually attracted to me.
At first, this Valentine's day sucked and I was feeling super down and lonely for not having a bf to make delicious chocolate hearts for or spoil.
But now? I think you gave me quite a bit of confidence in my appearance. Yes, average with a bit of cuteness. That was my aim, that was my goal, I just wanted to be a normal, average girl my age, if I was anything cuter or more attractive than that I'd be happy with it, but if I was at least average, I'd be content.
And I hit it that goal. I can actually live an ordinary life without worrying about being clocked or any trans issues, with my biggest trans-centric problem will be to remember to poke myself every week. Do you understand what a massive relief this is? It's basically like telling a little kid that all their dreams and wishes will come true. I'm ecstatic, the world finally feels just, and I can finally express myself the way I always wanted to. All I need to do is practice voice more, and I can carry on like nothing happened with a spring in my step.
Starting to get a wee bit too deep into fashion though. I can see myself spending stupid amounts of money on well-coordinated outfits, but I suppose we can't all be perfect.
I'm going to sleep. I predict sweet dreams, for once, now that so many of my anxieties and worries have been finally laid to rest.
Get your beauty sleep, baby. I'll be waiting for you when you get up.
Not at all. Post-op vaginas are remarkably realistic, and in some cases look 'better' than the real thing. It just so happens that vaginas don't look or smell particularly nice in the first place, especially if you're a straight woman who doesn't have those hormones that makes something so unappealing, appealing.
Phalloplastic dicks for ftms are hideous, and neither function properly, nor do they look proper. It's not an apt comparison.
Also, please note: ensure you're looking at suporn's work. Don't even think about that twenty billion year old penile reversement technique that no one sane uses in this day and age.
Post-Op pussies confuse me. How do they work? If you get cum inside one, does it clean itself? Is sex more stimulating than just getting your cock jerked? Why does the "birth canal" lead, am I just slipping a dick into a pocket and hoping it doesn't reach the wall?
I'm saving it for the right person. I'd be uncomfortable as heck if I didn't have "the right person" anyway. I need someone I can trust to help teach and guide me.
> if you have a nice butte
My mom has, on several occasions over the last few months, slapped me on the butt and said 'wow, you're really coming along aren't you!'. Of course, she always says that 'that wasn't appropriate of me, sorry ;)'.
I'm living at home while I get my trans issues out of the way, since I'm doing this right before entering the workforce post graduation, though I'll probably take a bit of extra time to start living the life I never got to live and have some actual fun.
Probably helps, generally speaking that I've gained a few pounds. Went from 117 lbs / 5'9" to 123 lbs. Aiming for 128 lbs before I go full time. Still underweight though, I mean, I wear size 0 jeans and even THEY don't fit my legs properly. Can't wear skinny jeans without boots because I have size 8 1/2 - 9 feet. So I'm basically waiting for fulltime before I'll wear skirts most the time.
Pleated plaid skirts are my absolute favourite, even if they're kinda schoolgirl-y.
Goddamn, why haven't I gotten to sleep yet?
>I've been in bed for 2 hours and I cannot sleep, I need to get this off my chest. I really, really like you, but I'm also absolutely terrified of fucking things up. I've never met/talked to anyone before you that I felt really understands me and knows what it's like to go through the things I've gone through. I'm constantly scared of driving people away and I blame myself when someone does leave me. Whenever I tell someone how I feel about them they instantly just stop wanting anything to do with me, so you can understand how terrified I am to tell you how I feel. I'm an idiot for developing feelings in the first place, you already have a girlfriend that I can tell you like very much, but for some reason I just can't stop myself from making myself as miserable as possible. I don't know what to do from here, I can't sleep at all and when I try to imagine someone is there with me all I can think of is you.
>she won't see this until she wakes up
Welp, looks like I'm commuting sudoku tomorrow
The neo vagina, isn't a static hole, like a normal vagina it is surrounded by muscle, this muscle moves and this movement combined with the help of gravity will clean out the cum. If the trans girl keeps up a good pro-biotic diet for awhile with yoghurts and stuff she can help establish a health vaginal flora colony that will also help with cleanliness.
Sex is a lot more stimulating than masturbating pre-op. It stimulates both the prostate (which is in a g spot position) and the clitoris. It's a really amazing feeling, so much better than anal sex or masturbating and there's no prep like with analysis and no pain at all.
The neo vagina can stretch to an extent but you will hit the vault of the vagina at some point. But you would in a cis woman too.
It's not only that though.
The biggest problems with penile inversion is the following:
1. Hair on the interior if it's not all taken care of preoperatively. Unsure if in the modern technique they strip the folliciles or not.
2. No self-lubrication like the Suporn method features.
3. Most surgeons don't even make a 'neoclit' like in the Suporn method.
Generally speaking, the Suporn method has higher variation in terms of results, as it is a constructive method, whereas penile inversion is more consistent, but generally worse.
Now, in your opinion, what method is best?
I just like to hear other people's opinions and, more importantly, reasons for having them so I don't accidentally pick something I'll regret.
I'm not sure if you've ever seen a penis but the vast majority don't have hair running up the shaft all the way. There doesn't need to be hair removal because there's no hair on the penile skin that lines the vagina. I have first hand experience with this, no hair removal, penile inversion, and no hair in my vagina at all, how could there be when I didn't have a hairy penis.
I can't really speak much about lubrication, I get some, it's not enough for sex but even with suporn it's still highly individual. The inversion keeps all the organs that make lubrication so there's no reason for it to be less able, it's just that inversion surgeons don't mention it and suporn does so people got this idea that the suporn method must do some thing different, it doesn't.
That three is bullshit and proves you have no idea what you're on about. unless you're going back in time to the 60s you'll be getting a clitoris with the inversion with pretty much every notable surgeon and probably even ones that aren't know in the English speaking world.
Someone else here, but...
> but the vast majority don't have hair running up the shaft all the way
Partially true. On the underside there's usually *some* hair that declines the closer you get to the tip, but that's really enough. If they don't remove those folliciles you'll have a fuzzy line or hair coming from your vajayjay. Can't have that.
It's especially noticeable the closer you get to where the penis meets the ballsack.
I mean, they use the entire shaft, so even though most of the hair is close to the bottom, that's still huge.
I don't think there is a best method, as long as you go to a competent surgeon that is using some kind of modern technique (which is most of them in the English speaking world as long as you don't go back alley).
All srs techniques will give you a vagina that looks good and feels good. The differences come in how they're reached and each have draw backs which can effect which one is best *for you*. For example with the penile inversion if you have a small penis you might not get enough depth unless the surgeon does a skin graft from somewhere else which means a more lengthy recovery and also needing hair removal. However if you do have a big enough penis you won't need any hair removal, will get good depth (I have 6" but I know girls with more) and will have a speedy recovery. The chonburi flap method used by Suporn uses scrotal skin to line the vagina, this skin is very hairy and needs to have each and every hair follicle removed this increases the recovery time by a larger margin but it also means that the depth isn't limited to the penis size.
The hair around the bottom of the shaft doesn't go in the vagina. I asked my surgeon this because I was worried about hair in the vagina if I didn't get any removal and he assured me there wouldn't be any hair in there because the small amount of the shaft with hair on doesn't go inside. And lo and behold he was right, many nearly a year of healing time and my vagina hasn't cough up a hair ball and speculums have shown no hair inside at all.
Question, if you have 6" of depth, does that mean you can only really have good sex with someone with that size or smaller? Or does it stretch a bit, and by how much?
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>But the vagina still leads somewhere, where the fuck does the neo-vagina lead to? Like, does it just end?
Yep, it's like when a cis woman gets a hysterectomy, the vaginal canal will just end and not lead anywhere.
It'll stretch a bit but not as much as a cis vagina. I've only ever had sex with my partner and their penis is a pretty good fit so I can't really say. Though I have used larger dildos with no problem so I don't imagine it'd be much of an issue, just if someone has a monster cock they won't get the whole penis submerged.
6" is just what I go to when dilating. Though another thing to add is that, that 6" is just from the vaginal entrance it doesn't account for the labia majora which will also be touching the penis and essentially give the illusion of another inch or a little less.
It's not healing in that time as in like still a bleeding mess, it's mostly just nerves reconnecting and tissue settling somewhat. Most of the healing as in like so everything is bound and there's no bleeding or wound-yness about it after the first 2-3 months.
But they say it takes 18 months for everything to be truly settled down and nerves reconnected. And I'm inclined to believe them since it's a lot more sensitive now than it was at say 5 months. I'm not really sure how the tissue is still "settling" to be honest because the swelling is pretty much gone by 5 months, maybe even sooner but yet the appearance just keeps "settling" and looking better and better.
cause you take my images
Yes. Sex feels amazing. I mentioned in that post before that it stimulated the prostate which is roughly where the g-spot would be in a cis woman.
Every thrust will hit both the clitoris and the prostate which creates this combined pleasure. If you've had anal it's a similar feeling from the prostate stimulation then but it's just so, so, so much better. The vagina is closer to the prostate than the anus so it's more easily stimulated and stimulated better, there's no pain at all which I always got with anal before even if I really stretched out. Also not feeling the dysphoria from having a meat and two veg swinging between your legs helps keep you just indulged in the feelings of pleasure rather than being like "fug, there's my penis".
>read shoujo all night while listening to the triple six
>now walking to work where i will make pastries for four hours
>spinning life of pablo omw there
This is crazy, but perfect. I think life of pablo might be the worst kanye album tho.
so i just got an email from my bank saying that my account is overdrawn by EIGHTY EIGHT DOLLARS
i totally forgot about my amazon prime subscription and now i have this groupon for laser, and negative 88 dollars in my account.
i don't know how i am getting to classes this week or feeding myself next week
F U C K
> Pre-HRT, 7.5" penis. 8" if super aroused.
> One year in, SRS still six months off, it's down to 6" tops.
Well fucking shitsticks. I kept forgetting to use it. Guess I have to go with Suporn.
Is it impossible to be trans and not want SRS?
Are you sure you don't want a hairy strong man tying you up and stuff like that?
So I went from a bisexual leaning toward women to now being almost exclusively het (guys r cute) by taking 'mones.
Can't even get aroused looking at women now. Feels so weird to not care a single iota, even when changing in the same room as an attractive friend.
supposedly suporn has had some people come back from him to my hometown with really messed up work done by him...
>one was to tight for a pencil
> one lacked any depth
there were quite a few others but I can't remember them now.
Plenty of cis men have vagina envy.
You'll be getting a literal flesh wound regardless of what advances are made since you'll still be getting your body cut open and reconfigured. Even those stem cell vaginas they were testing on cis women with agenesis. It would literally be the same thing that happens now in srs only you have the mucosa tissue line your vagina instead of penile/scrotal skin, that vagina mucosa is still going to have to bind to a cavity that the surgeon that to cut into you, it's still going to have to heal up in the same way.
And if we go beyond just stem cell vaginas and to a full on genital transplant with vulva, vagina, uterus, everything. That's going to be so much more invasive, destructive, "mutilating" and give you a much better "flesh wound" than any modern srs technique.
If I don't get SRS and keep my gt, can I still laugh at boys for not having big enough penises?
6" is more than enough to get good depth with the western surgeons. What actually matters more for the inversion is whether or not you have foreskin, as even a small foreskin can net you a surprising amount of depth.
>You'll be getting a literal flesh wound regardless of what advances are made since you'll still be getting your body cut open and reconfigured. Even those stem cell vaginas they were testing on cis women with agenesis. It would literally be the same thing that happens now in srs only you have the mucosa tissue line your vagina instead of penile/scrotal skin, that vagina mucosa is still going to have to bind to a cavity that the surgeon that to cut into you, it's still going to have to heal up in the same way.
I have been saying the same thing for two years
Well I'm 7.5" now, but I need bigger. What do boys think about having gfs with bigger dicks than them?
the following post is happening because i have practically no one to talk about this and vent to. i'm posting it here because as much as i want to say that i don't want any responses, i kind of do, and it's fleetingly relevant to this thread. i could post it in /trash/, but then i'd get no responses worth reading.
i'm 21, and i've had gender dysphoria for 6+ years, but haven't started hrt for various reasons. i keep telling myself i'll call a specialist, but my bullshit anxiety keeps stopping me.
I have almost no sex drive, and most thoughts i have of having sex with a male or female, or trans for that matter, tend to make me shudder or cringe. counter intuitively i really like my penis. i masturbate and look at porn, but i don't really have any link between my fetishes and people irl i'm attracted to. i get infatuated, but sex and stuff never come into it, i never look at a person and think 'wow that body part of theirs is very nice'. i do however get kind of repulsed by people who have stopped caring about how they look.
i hate my body but i don't really do anything about it. i'm overweight but part of me wants to pretend i'm not, or that i don't care. that's kind of true, i think fat can look nice on women if they take care of how they looks. i don't mean obscene obesity though. fat men are repulsive imo.
in the last year i've developed a kind of obsession with transhumanism, which is basically using technology to design humans rather than relying on organic functions. i've always had a fascination with science fiction, as well as electronics/robotics/mechanisms/etc, and also a lot of very abstract ideas about life and consciousness. i've sort of decided to be the first real posthuman. i'm in this awful cycle of excitement and determination, followed by self doubt and criticism. i want to say i know it's possible, i know i can do it, but my anxiety tells me i'm being ridiculous, i, specifically i, could never do it. it's horrid. i don't believe in myself 1/2
> What actually matters more for the inversion is whether or not you have foreskin, as even a small foreskin can net you a surprising amount of depth.
Welp. My parents cut me like the bastards they are, and now, because of it, I won't get to have a decent depth vagina.
May as well kill myself.
2/2 so i sabotae myself before i even try. even if it is ridiculous, i should still try. i shoot myself down because my anxiety tells me i can't do something that amazing, i can't be someone that amazing.
it's not even about being in history books for me. i think the human body is badly designed. in truth it's not even designed, it's just the result of a series of coincidences. evolution is survival of the fittest, but that phrase is misleading
survival of the fittest sounds like 'the biggest/strongest/smartest/fastest survives'. it's more that what survives is what happens to fit the situation best, which means lots of contextual intricacies. think butterfly effect logic.
i hate how limited my body is, i have two hands but one functions so much shittier than the other. my vision i such a small cone, if i can't see something i can't do any kind of delicate manipulation unless i check it regularly. problems like that, which could all be solved by design.
i hate having to deal with the bullshit and hoops of the real world. i just want a big empty warehouse to work in, and resources to work with. and time! no social shit, no needing to talk to people, no politeness and social nuances. of course i'm exaggerating, but people do feel like a chore. for about six months i stopped having friends. i left university and immediately lost contact with my friends there, because i never really felt like i connected to them. i don't really know how to explain it beyond that, though i'm sure anxiety was involved. my work friends ask me out to drinks and started politely declining after a few times, because i'm a literal freak compared to these people. i feel like a creature masquerading as human. i know all the ways to chat, joke, and be friendly, but it feels shallow and dull to me because i'm too scared to try and be genuine for fear of rejection or ridicule. i've never told any of this to anyone, i've never even posted it anonymously. i'm such a fucking mess. fucking christ.
There's also that /cd/ girl who lost her clitoris to necrosis. Though that could happen with any surgeon.
And girls who had giant wieners saying they have too much erectile tissue left over.
look mate, i don't know if you expect anyone here to like shatter your world paradigm or whatever, but this general is filled with the lowest common denominator.
1. stop being a crybaby retard making excuses for your body/overweight-ness and just go workout. (unless you have a diagnosed condition meaning you can't physically lose weight, then i'm sorry)
2. stop being a crybaby retard making excuses for feeling trapped by your gender dysphoria and go talk to a professional who is trained to deal with this stuff and help you.
3. stop being a crybaby retard making excuses for feeling trapped by your anxiewty and go talk to a professional who is trained to deal with this stuff and help you.
4. sexuality is a spectrum that goes in 20 different dimensions. just because you jerk off to porno but don't think of people in real life in sexual terms doesn't mean there is anything wrong with you. stop freaking out.
5. i don't know what the FUCK the rest of your sci-fi babble is about, but you should probably be more focused on the reality of your situation and do what you can to fix it, instead of crying that you weren't born exactly how you want or that the world won't fix it for you.
you'd be so surprised at some of the transitions you will see. some of the manliest, weirdest, ugliest looking guys can become cute girls. you know what they all have in common? they don't cry about stupid inane trash and went out and got things done to improve their life.
wait when did you wake up
I thought you were still asleep
I know but it's so... up in the air. Like will my cut 6 incher that used to be like 7.5~ give me enough depth? Or is it going to be shallow?
It's basically the determining factor as to whether I go for penile inversement or suporn.
That's really only something a surgeon could tell you. It's possible if you've got a nice foreskin. As >>5728672 said, there's a bunch of factors so you can never really know until you see a surgeon as ask them to look at your gt. They'll be able to tell you everything, if you can get enough depth, if you'll need hair removal, everything.
There's a girl on leddit who went to Brassard with a 2.5" erect penis and they got depth but only because they had a leg graft.
I went to a UK surgeon so you've probably never heard of them.
If you're cut but still have 6" you could probably get a good depth but just have a consult with a surgeon that does the inversion nearby and you'll be able to get a rough idea if it's enough. It wouldn't be as much as if your parents didn't cut you but it could still be enough.
I'm really high okay
kinda crossfaded even
And I've been watching a documentary in the living room
Also I can swear she came in here wondering why I was making so much noise and it woke her up but I dont remember when
>determining factor as to whether I go for penile inversement or suporn.
This pretty much, it's how I decided to go to Suporn, useless 2" cut micro penis is useless. Hopefully Suporn can turn it into something useful.
Christ this is literally the hardest decision in my life.
What surgeon to go with for SRS, and what technique? This could determine how happy I am for the rest of my life, especially if it's botched.
Suporn is more modern, but he's in Thailand and I'm not sure if they have as stringent regulations and so forth, or if he'll even care about you enough to do a good job instead of just using you as an aide training subject because he's so popular.
On the other hand, I might not have enough depth with penile inversement, and generally, the results with Suporn are simply better in terms of sensitivity, etc. etc. because they can reserve the most sensitive bits for the clit and so forth. Depth isn't even a problem with him either.
Cost is literally zero issue. I'm just sincerely concerned that a doctor will just see me as a number on a page and not give enough fucks.
Thank Christ I'm not in a massive hurry to make this decision, I still have a bunch of other stuff I have to handle first.
Not really, whatever you're happy with. I think my 6" is good, though I'd have been happy with anything between 5 and 8". Though I'd never put the full 8" to proper use since my partner isn't that big.
whats the documentary about?
i wasn't really looking for anyone to give me answers, i just needed to vent, to get that out in some way. it was a stream of consciousness thing, so i didn't edit or reread that at all, so it probably doesn't make a lot of sense.
i'm not an imbecile, i know there's no magic solution to these things. i know the only way to deal with my weight is to put in the effort and lose it. i'm seeing a psychiatrist weekly, she's just not a gender specialist.
i don't know if you have an anxiety disorder, and i don't know what the average for one is, but mine's quite fucked up, so while i know the most effective way to deal with anxiety is to face my fears, my brain is wired to automatically avoid things that might hurt me. it's a fight or flight thing, if i encounter something that my brain decides is potentially dangerous, or even just uncertain, i start to look for ways out. it's stupid inane trash, but it's been the default state of being for as long as i can remember. heavy and a semi abusive father will do that.
regarding sexuality, i haven't been bothered by that for years, i'm not 100% clear why i included that bit of info.
regarding the sci fi babble, i'm going to assume i did a shit job explaining any of that, it was more venting, so it probably only makes sense from my perspective, if at all. i do want to turn myself into a robot though.
this was just a way of facing my fears/anxiety. i expected the kind of reaction i got regarding the scifi babble, but it wasn't as scary as i expected it to be. thanks for your help.
i'm already cute by the way, just not a girl.
>the results with Suporn are simply better in terms of sensitivity, etc. etc. because they can reserve the most sensitive bits for the clit and so forth
You are wrong here. The only difference in sensitivity is that he makes the "secondary sensate organ" which is some sensitive tissue he places around the urethral opening, in the inversion this tissue is simply somewhere else.
His clitoris doesn't reserve anything more than the inversion surgeons do to make their clitoris. It's all the glans.
If cost isn't an issue the only thing that should really matter is "can I get the depth" and "when released home how easily can I deal with complications if I need to see the surgeon again".
>my brain is wired to automatically avoid things that might hurt me
first of all, this is how literally everyone's brain works. its a biological imperative.
secondly, trust me, i am bipolar, have had the most fucked up family situation possible the first 18 years old my life. i get it. life fucking sucks. however, special snowflake 'woe is me' thinking is the most redundant, self-harming shit you can do. once you realize that literally every other person on the planet has problems just like you do and that you aren't special or different, then you will be in a mindset to change.
>i do want to turn myself into a robot
okay i'm not sure if you are actually trans. i feel like maybe you spend a bit too much time worrying and feeling bad about what you are not and never will be existentially (adam jensen or whatever), instead of being introspective and seeing if what you are (not the circumstances surrounding you) make you unhappy. it kind of sounds like gender has nothing to do with it and you just are unhappy with yourself in general, not just your gender.
really, just go talk to someone dude.
i didn't explain that properly. everyone has that, but mine is on an unhealthy and impractical level. things like i buy a video game but don't play it because i might not like it, or i watch an episode of something, i really enjoy it, but don't watch any further because of the remote chance i won't enjoy it any more. it's literally nonsensical. it works as though uncertainty guarantees serious but vague harm. i also wasn't saying woe is me, or calling myself a special snowflake. at least if i did i didn't mean to, i was just saying things 'out loud' that have been floating around in my head, venting.
the gender issues predate the scifi bullshit by five or so years. the basic idea of the scifi bullshit is that from a design/engineering perspective the human body has lots and lots of room for improvement. i studied as an industrial designer, and i'm stupidly passionate about that sort of thing. i also grew up on anything and everything scifi, and have a habit of idealising things, while also thinking about what's realistic. i like asking questions about the integration of machines and humans, as well as comparisons between the two. anything from artificial intelligence to copying a human mind into a machine, and beyond.
the natural progression for me is to turn these passions into something i can do with my life. i know how ridiculous it sounds, and i hate to suggest i'm smart, but i think that i have the right kind of mind to tackle this.
my gender issues aren't wholly related to the scifi bullshit, but i was hoping that if any thread on 4chan would have an open mind regarding this sort of thing it would be here. probably a mistake.
also, can you imagine a world where instead of worrying about which surgeon to go to, you could just pay someone to fabricate the exact kind of bits you wanted. instead of taking pills, buying upgrades to change the contours of your body in the way you want. it would even be possible down the line to fabricate a womb.
Could you corset train a manly ribcage to be less bad, like narrow the base of the cage?
>been on e less than 2 months
>totally dry 45 second long orgasm
this is a positive right
idk what to tell you, there's zero cum. I've been on spiro for nearly 6 months too, and I mean I may have exaggerated the time a little bit, it was probably closer to 1 minute. Maybe you're just not as trutrans as me :^)
idk if the spiro really did anything desu. I got sort of depressed, but my libido was practically unchanged. In the past 1.5 months since starting E I've fapped 4 times with little to no cum and orgasm markedly longer.
I have no parents and what family I do have are unable or unwilling to help, I am unemployed and my country doesn't have any sort of surgery available, I am in my 30s and I am broke.
it's not possible for me to get it, not right now, not even if I had a job tomorrow it would still take me several years to save the required money and then another year to wait to see suporn.
nothing good ever happens in my life, and nothing ever will.
O-oh, well I didnt really want to talk to /pol/ either, he's an idiot...
They can but modern corsets are apparently healthier than they used to be, from what ive been told the general rule is if you're in pain or having trouble take off/loosen the corset.
This is the website I got mine off of after it was reccomended to me by a costume designer at a convention
I know ren faires will sell them at not as bad a markup as you might expect.