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>trashing on my waifu
BITCH MAKE ME A KEBAB
>tfw u take a giant shit and there's a foot long unbroken turd in da toilet
Marriage is not just any relationship between human beings. It is a relationship rooted in human nature and thus governed by natural law.
Natural law’s most elementary precept is that “good is to be done and pursued, and evil is to be avoided.” By his natural reason, man can perceive what is morally good or bad for him. Thus, he can know the end or purpose of each of his acts and how it is morally wrong to transform the means that help him accomplish an act into the act’s purpose.
Any situation which institutionalizes the circumvention of the purpose of the sexual act violates natural law and the objective norm of morality.
>99.9% certainty of male in all pictures
So should I kill myself or what
>elanna will never give you your first blowjob as you begin to cry because of the dysphoria but cant deny how good it feels and as you come to terms with this confliction, she moves up to kiss you passionately and allow your own cum to enter your mouth
So if sex is solely institutionalised procreation (natural law), where does that put you?
I want to die... I'm getting caught up in the insurmountable task that is my transition. I'm tempted to down my entire bottle of ritalin, just to get over it all. I don't want to feel this pain anymore...
marriage is an excuse for two people who hate each other to have kids they despise and raise them to do the same to others.
>sexual act violates natural law and the objective norm of morality.
Oh jesuse Christ think about what you're saying please. I'm not going to say anymore more than this but homosexuality is as natural and as normal as heterosexuals, humans are the only animal that puts it on and pedastole or make any big deal about it. But uh, enjoy your delusions.
Traditional marriage is usually so fecund that those who would frustrate its end must do violence to nature to prevent the birth of children by using contraception. It naturally tends to create families.
On the contrary, same-sex “marriage” is intrinsically sterile. If the “spouses” want a child, they must circumvent nature by costly and artificial means or employ surrogates. The natural tendency of such a union is not to create families.
Therefore, we cannot call a same-sex union marriage and give it the benefits of true marriage.
im really trying not to take your:
>A: delusions and possibly stupidty
>B: underhanded bragging since you know you pass better than lots of people
but its getting hard when you post a pic of your ass and just shit talk yourself
can you compliment fish any more blatantly?
post that one picture of you in a shirt and panties and show everyone your dad bod
your problem isnt your body or face
your problem is you dress masculinely and intentionally use your guy voice and tell people you are a guy
and then when they call you a girl despite all that you come here to complain because truthfully you want to be girly and get your surgeries but your girlfriend has you by the ladyballs
>because of this pointless line of rhetoric I'm right
Welp that's enough of that. Be back after this is over
Bye peeps who don't care/ hate me. I love you all
But if you were to have sex with a male, you wouldn't need to do any sort of violence or contraception to prevent fertilisation. A marriage between you and a male is a "same-sex" union. This is why opposition to same sex unions as an mtf makes no sense, you can't take the moral high ground about going against nature.
I'm right here, do you want a timestamp?
so, as a trans woman, where does that put you?
if "same sex marriage" refers to biological sex, the only men you could presumably legally marry are trans men.
but trans women and men alike tamper with their endocrine systems to such a degree as to render them infertile so am i to believe that you think regardless of our sexual orientation, legal marriage ought to always be out of bounds for trans people?
>implying anyone really replies to you all that often
It's overwhelming and I'm scared to fuck up and I hate interacting with people so much that working and earning the money I need to transition makes me want to kill myself on its own, but I don't want to ask my parents for money because they'll just say, "this is a bad idea, you might fuck up" and it's just gets into my head and shreds every remaining facet of confidence that I have.
>tfw don't want to be seen as a tomboy
Tomboys are supposed to be athletic not couch potatoes.
I didn't even have srs yet and why would I give a shit about gay marriage?
Honestly I don't either, but I don't know what it feels like to be a girl, so who knows right? All I know is I don't feel like a boy and feel more comfortable as a girl. I'm sure once I start hrt it'll help.
How do I become a qt gamur gurl and get free stuff?
Nope. You will never be a girl. I will never be a girl. But, we're not really boys either. The best most transgirls will be able to settle for is looking like a trap, a fugly girl if they're lucky. There's some equivalency to the uncanny valley when it comes to being trans, you can see it with pornstars like Bailey Jay and Sarina Valentina. Sure, they may be attractive, but there's a clear discrepancy between them and any woman who isn't overloaded with plastic. So no. You are not, and will never be a girl.
First you become a girl, get a webcam, act ditz while streaming the flavor of the month game on twitch, and ask for donations constantly. Have people "harass" you too for more sympathy bux.
Cause I got v&nned cause if Skype and steam. I lost any chance of transitioning after leaving bill so I had to detrans I'm uglier than ever and horribly depressed not lewd material not to say I ever was.
Self-promotion mostly. It might even be easier for you being trans and all.
well, i mean i rival the elephant man desu.
yay. this is ymy edition
>tfw terribad at games, but don't stand a chance at passing
fucking kill me.
That's not me you silly goose. It's just some twitch streamer.
aww, you're cute. Truth is, everyone can spot even "hot" trannies from a mile away because they really just fucking dont look like normal women. Sorry to burst your bubble, hon.
Not really, you're being more girly desu. Can't tell you how many girls do that. Guess it's still pathetic but it's a girly pathetic so A+
26 in a week and I've never once spent valentines day with someone or even had a relationship. H-Heres hoping better for next year right?
>tfw this valentines day actually made me want to fucking kill myself
>tfw i literally hate everyone rn
Seeing as you were (or are, depending on your mood) one of those manlets, that's really mean nigga.
Mfw don't know to stay qt boy and kill my self at 25 or go hrt and because some kind of thing and ve somewhat happy, I can just avoid mirrors for the rest of my life right?
yay she is back and happy and healthy again
I missed you rawr!
Guess it's one of your saner periods.
Wat up rawr? How are you holding on the means streets of Chicago? I kinda missed less crazy you.
>Voice doesn't though so I can't pose as a girl online and in vidya
How long does voice training take if you have an "average" male voice? Not deep but not girly.
>Not maining /lit/
Call me when any other board creates something as amazing as this,
>live with parents
>my fucking mother is always home, "works" like 2 hours a week by answering phonecalls for my self employed dad and then constantly acts nosy at home
how am i supposed to train my fucking voice? at this rate by the time i need to get out of stealth mode i will have the most jarring voice.
All hope is lost.
Hanging Dong is a close second for sure, but The Legacy of Totalitarianism in the Tundra is a surreal piece of history and culture.
>tfw I kissed like three transgirls
I still kissed more guys than girls so I am not that degenerative despite having an even count in bed.
Vaginas are gross, I'm glad I have a penis.
>tfw trying to get friends
>tfw they abandon me the second the find out I'm trans
How does one avoid this? ;_;
are you really that simple? this is easily the worst general on any board. just cliques of weebs.. most of you are pre transition and act like you know shit
people used to be able to come here for support but now they have to settle for reddit
i fucking wish
>grinding on this guy last night in my bed while making out
>suddenly become very self-conscious and grossed out by the fact that i have a dick
>go to sleep instead of having sex
it wouldn't be sex otherwise.
Although I only had non oral penetration once. wore a condom and everything. The std test came back clean.
Most likely. Not any new ones though, at least not until my hairs back.
Cause life is cruel... I was forced to get it cut this short for a few reasons but I did need a cut, just not like this senpai.
I'm nothing special, skylarrrr has posted in anon I think but she's such a qt I think people thought she was a literal troll. I haven't seen moap either I don't think. I'm not sure!! just when ever I guess.
Do et then cutie~~
>Dr. Christian Mootson, a recent graduate of QUT had been volunteering as a doctor in Syria. On the 9th of February, he was gunned down by the so called Islamic State, for his work in campaigning the legalization of same-sex marriage in Australia. This tragedy happened just days after ISIS killed 4 homosexual men, who were caught having bareback anal sex in Raqqa.
>fucking myself with my dildo
>thought about douching but whatever
>feeling pretty good
>pull dildo out to add more lube
>ring of runny shit caked around the tip of the penis
well that was gross
>shrug and shove it back in
one day i think you'll come out of your shell. but don't let dysphoria scramble your life. sometimes you gotta accept that life can be hard boiled. it ain't over easy like for cis people. egg.
What's your favourite site to shop for clothes mtfg?
This girl found one weird trick for becoming cis! Trannies hate her! Find out how she did it!
Dumb things you did as a kid to repress
>stopped watching the powerpuff girls because it was too "girly"
Alone on Vday. Someone give me something to do besides smoking weed pls.
>That GOP debate
>"All the memes are wrong..."
>"Ima fix wolves"
>Shkreli getting meme'd on
>Anthony Fantano dying
What an memetastic weekend.
Meme production always increases greatly during wartime.
"I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with memes."
I'm probably going to get called AGP for this but I frequently thought about making out with my highschool best friend from the age of 16,
by 18, weed smoking had loosened my inhibitions enough to masturbate to the idea of him fucking me as a girl, there were times when I'd jerk off trying to suspend disbelief in my head that I actually had a dick, and that when I was holding my dick I was actually holding a dildo and just... y'know... jamming it in me. And I remember... this is closer to AAP. I filmed myself jerking off (in boymode, since I hadn't even dressed in women's clothing since I was a kid), and then jerked off while watching me jerking off. I mean it's not gay if it's you right?
I did all of this and STILL managed to repress and convince myself I was a regular straight cis guy for almost 6 years, until I ended up on medication at which point I had finally opened up to the idea of sticking things up my butt and frequently fantasized about getting pegged, STILL trying to convince myself that n-no it was fine if I imagined it was a woman pegging me that's still a fine straight guy thing to do, and then I broke again, and got on medication again and (more because of dysphoric things not pertaining to sex), I finally stopped repressing.
I watched the shit out of powerpuff girls and got made fun of for it, didn't even care. Great show.
>tell mom I want to be a girl like them
>they're cute and strong and everything I want to be
>I like the pastels and voices and want my room to be pretty like that with lots of stuffed animals
>mom tells me thats weird and I can't do that
>tells me not to tell anybody and that I need to get boy stuff for my room
>get boy stuff for my room because I don't want her to hit me
>years later i come out to her and she tells me there were no hints of me wanting to be a girl
Find some niche fashion look and just rock the shit out of it, people will care less about your face and such if they already think you're weird. One of the reasons I dress like a cyber goth.
noelle bamboozled everyone here, she is a cis girl after all
>people will care less about your face and such if they already think you're weird
maybe that'll make me less likely to be beaten up for not passing but it won't solve the self-loathing
I had similar experiences. Tbh I'm still not completely sure whether I'm actually trans or what I want to do about it. My doctor is referring me to a gender therapist though so hopefully I can figure stuff out.
>tfw you've finished transition but you still come to these stupid trans communities because you don't know where else to go online
Anyone else here have broad 17inch shoulders w super huge ribcage and muscly neck?
>tfw your lower body passes better than your upper body
>lower part has gt
>Struggling to open a plastic cinnamon heart container I got from my mom
>Laughing too hard at Dr. Mootson
Life is good.
/v/ is weird. You're either trans or a repressed tranny hating on transpeople to help your repression last longer. Either way /v/ is the epitome of "i want to be the little girl". Even the gay guys there.
yeah i dunno, that was only stuff encompassing my broken sexuality. like i said i only stopped repressing for other reasons. after finally allowing myself to see myself as female, a lot of things just fell into place, such as the way i was as a kid before i even knew what sex was.
although admittedly like, the whole end to my repression was preceded by about a month from when I just had to concede that... boobs and vagina are just really boring.
i still feel like the mental gymnastics i did throughout my teens where i would imagine getting some fulfillment through vicariously living my life through a female partner and being there for her to treat her as i'd want to be treated, it does mean that i would be open to sleeping with anyone regardless of gender as long as i have an emotional connection with them.
not that i have though lol. the idea of sex (especially just casual sex for its own sake) was so repulsive to me so i just didn't bother trying to get laid.
Do you think video games might increase feelings of dysphoria, if you grew up playing female characters in games?
>so i look like shit
You acting like shit didn't stop me from liking you, I doubt a few stray hairs will. Just one quick non-lewd photo.
for me playing female characters makes me feel better. But like, could it make your overall dysphoria worse if you play them as you grow up? It depends. If you treat it as just a character on the screen that is not you, then you're probably gonna be fine. If you start self-inserting the exposure to being a female miiiiight make it worse. However that would mean you were probably trans to start if you're identifying with a female and really taking the experience to heart. That's my uneducated guess anyway, I just play videogames lol.
Tfw stealth and guys talk shit about trans people in front of you
LiS was really nice. Sometimes it made me feel reallly baddd because I knew I'd never get to experience growing up as a girl or going to school as a girl and all that. But at the same time it was kind of nice to live it for a little bit.
>tfw nobody knows im trans in a skype group im in and some of them talk shit about trans people
It's really hard not to blow my cover sometimes.
I always liked playing girls growing up, before I really recognized that I had dysphoria.
I wonder if I did this because I had dysphoria but didn't know, or if I developed dysphoria from playing girls. Or if it at least strengthened my desire to be a girl.
Has there ever been real scientific proof on what causes dysphoria?
just throwing a meme atcha kid
desu it's more Kissinger's fault but to a MUCH greater degree it's South Africa's fault for throwing them under the bus to keep their actually inhumane police state going while Rhodesia was nothing even close to the horrors of apartheid
I didn't but I credit some of it to office spam.
I haven't played since they added that level system though so I'm probably shit now (mg2)
you're making me hurt inside... I'm at a moment where I honestly believe I will never have that moment in my life.
I'm pretty sure it wouldn't go over well if they found out. At least some of them wouldn't be cool with it, since they basically come from /pol/. Heck sometimes the things that section of the group says about women aren't that great lol.
You probably didn't develop dysphoria from playing girls. You might have had it strengthened by it though.
>been living sorta "boymode" for a while now because I just like having short hair, baggy clothes, and being all around dykish
>buying baggy clothes and go to try them on, walk up to the female change rooms
>always look really uncomfortable approaching the woman's change room because I don't think I pass, especially not in these clothes
>lady says, "Beg my pardon but are you transgender?"
>I choke and nod my head
>"We'll let you use a men's change room if that is how you identify," she said with a smile
I was speechless and ended up changing in a boy's room.
Oh I am sorry I didn't mean to trigger your inner /fit/izen.
Is this better?
>tfw taking another nap because i feel like crap
They'll be one of us some day
So you prefer something a bit more delicate?
Don't forget cardio.
>went to movie with food
>gf sitting by aisle
>ask her to stop someone to take our order
>literally a hundred people go by
>I nudge her every time a waiter comes by to get up and stop him
> she just half hartey raises her hand
>she just bursts out crying instead of stoping someone and giving them our ticket
Seriously cis girls are so entitled and timid it's really hard to date them sometimes
I like it, I dress lighter in the summer anyways which makes it more obvious. Right now I just look like a boy in baggy kahkis and sweaters.
Is it bad that I kind of really enjoyed getting recognized as FTM?
Why would you do this....
So how would you have me call it? Flayed fluffy?
You know about which things refers the concept of "natural law"? Are you a messenger of nature itself to determine what the "natural law" is? The last time I checked, nature is a human concept to define the phenomena that surround us, I didn't knew there was intrinsic laws around this besides the one we created (like the laws of physics and such).
So yeah, ignorant bullshit it is :)
>But I like the idea of dating girls
but boys are so pretty and you can yell at them and they dont even cry
Please stop, you're hurting me....
No, she would only marry me if I could pay for her completely while living in the Bay Area, and I'd only marry her if she Would move or pay for herself (which she can't because she's frightened to change jobs or ask for a raise since she graduated college)
>girlfriend working on school work on pc
>go to get ice pops in kitchen
>come back to bedroom
>gf somehow tied her legs to bed and cuffed herself
>get on bed between her legs
>grab bullet vibes and tape
>tape them to her nipples under her rose patterned negligee
>turn on vibrators, starting at low speed
>start licking the tip of her gt
>slowly increase vibrator speed
>start putting lips around the girlbenis
>take off my glasses and make eye contact
>turn the vibrators up to full power
>she's making lots of noise at this point
>bring her to the edge with my mouth and hand
>tease her a few more times
>finally let her climax onto my tongue
>she keeps whimpering as i make sure her gt is clean
>take the vibrators off her chest
>she yelps when i slide the ice pops on her nipples
>cuddle into her and relax
happy valentine's day /mtfg/
Starting voice today; my voice isn't super deep but it's not feminine. How long until I sound like a girl?
Hahaha that's cool, but really, you can stop now thanks.
get off my hood before i gas you you little vermin