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time to go out with a bang /lgbt/ and whore my face as the op image before the hon mods delete this thread and i quit this board and go to susans where i belong because its a bunch of self hating trannies and /pol/ meanie pants who escape from their problems by being mean to other people
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>>5720223
No/10, would not bang.

t. /pol/
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what's susan's
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>>5720235
A place of dreams
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qt desu
but you probably know that and are only posting for attention just like all camwhores so i will hide your thread
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>>5720242
Seriously why do you keep posting this?

Is there a joke I'm missing?

Is she the new Kayla?
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>>5720245
correct!
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>>5720252

Apparently it's a hon who ascended to a meme.

>tfw you will never know what it's like to become a meme
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Hey people, yesterday was my birthday, yay. Also I got myself a new haircut, yay.

Also fuck the mods, I wanted to give feedback, not so yay. Why is passgen not allowed?

>>5720223
you pass. but in that pic you look like you're 50 by the hairstyle, glasses and top
>>5720242
do your eyebrows kek
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>>5720281
Shoulder and chin angles/10, would not bang.

t. /pol/
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>>5720281

Just finished cumming to your pic to be honest, happy belated birthday cute-aquarius-tranny-anon.
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>>5720310
Butterfly tattoo/10, would engage in flirtation then spill spaghetti with.

t. /pol/
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>>5720223
>>5720281
>>5720310

I like all yr hairstyles
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>>5720328

On my chest mostly, with some outlier genetic material landing on my pillow to the left of my head. I just rub it into my chest hair because it's easier than using tissues.

>tfw not very good at hygiene
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>>5720303
Hello mister collective of /pol/

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>>5720315
This is what I wanna hear. Where'd you come? On the screen? Yay for aquarius trannies
>>5720330
thanks babe
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>>5720315
I just finished cumming to your comment about cumming to her pic to be BBQ honest.
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>>5720338
That's disgusting, but to be honest. I used to do something even more revolting. I used to just use my bed sheets as a cumrag and sleep in it for weeks without washing. LOL good thing I don't jizz anymore, because I wouldn't have stopped that habit
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do I pass senpai?
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>>5720338
that's nice, now post your cum-covered bear chest
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>>5720330
I like your tree/10, would discuss botany with.

>>5720347
Probably a Jew/10, plz go JIDF.

>>5720362
Yes/10, would attempt to prevent cultural enrichment for.

t. /pol/
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>>5720360

>cute tranny literally sleeping in cum

Pretty hot desu. Also I don't understand people who wash their sheets, it seems like a lot of work for nothing in return.
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>tfw you might have been able to pass when you were younger but you're in your mid-20s now and beyond hope

Move aside, lesser hons.
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>>5720379
You gotta really know your shit mister highlord of the races. I'm asian you dummy. But what am I expecting from somebody who uses his visits on /pol/ as a way to identify himself. That's so typical of nationalists. Standing for something you don't have shit to do with and probably weren't even asked to in the first place. But if you have nothing else in life. Go ahead. Bring on justice to the world. lol
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>>5720386
You literally never wash your sheets? But you gotta have fresh ones ready for when you get people visiting you. Right? That's why you wash.
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>>5720386
Do you enjoy sleeping in a burrito of dead skin and dirt and body oils?
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>>5720386
>cute tranny
>cute
heh kid, if you expect every tranny to be a cute sex goddess then i have some bad news for you
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>>5720417

>people visiting you

lol

>>5720374

Not a bear, just a hairy skelly desu.
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>>5720338
>>5720360
>>5720374
>>5720386
Absolutely degenerate.

>>5720389
Dungeon Master/10, would smite orcs with.

>>5720406
jej I'm just shitposting you pleb you probably can't even find Australia on a map like you don't even know

t. /pol/
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round 2, the hormone gate is still closed, will i make it after it opens? be honest and bully me
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>>5720362
>>5720330
>>5720310
>>5720281
>>5720223
I hate yall all yall pretty
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>>5720473
>Dungeon Master/10, would smite orcs with.
>Not playing as orcs in an orc campaign

m8
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>>5720472
uhhhhh i didn't think you would actually deliver
it's so surreal
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>>5720489

Don't objectify me silly boys.
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>>5720473
That's cool man. I just noticed the way you engage conversation. Looks like to me you say things in memes, because you're afraid of getting responses, because girls are scary and they make you spill spaghetti. But that's my guess, mister I know where australia is LOL

>>5720480
I already told you. Bad lips and might end up odd looking. Also that thing above your lip, you might be right, you could get that done.
>>5720481
In that picture you pass
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>>5720481
androgynous gypsy boy who sucks cocks for one dolla/5
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>>5720527
Thats all i want
>>5720520
Is that photo too angled
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>>5720480
not bad but that upper lip:nose ratio is manly as fuck

seriously no woman has philtrum or whatever it's called this prominent and this long
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>>5720480
Please get a better camera, that I might deliver a more objective review of your possibilities/10, would evaluate later.

>>5720481
Have you ever thought of straightening your hair? I think it'd look really good if you gave it a shot.

>>5720487
> implying I'm not a L.E. Orc blackguard slaughtering a rebellious village of "reformed" orcs

>>5720520
You're completely right. Is this more civil? I'm trying, here. Sorry for calling you JIDF, anonette.
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>>5720558
I don't know. In my opinion with locks like that it can end up either way, but if you had big tits, I wouldn't doubt you being a woman desu. It's hard to tell really, but I think those purely exclusive to females sex markers would make it.
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>>5720572
LOL I was actually right? And you CHANGED you ways? wow lol, this is the best day ever. Enjoy being able to have normal conversation now.
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Could I ever pass? No make or anything there
I'm already full time and I fear people lies to me...
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>>5720596
> implying I'm not just going to keep shitposting in a slightly more civil manner
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Do your feet pass?
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>>5720558
you look boy-leaning androgynous

clothes and accessories are your friend
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>>5720608
You pass.

But you have that same problem I have. Your lower part of your face is looking more masculine than the rest of your face. It almost looks seperated from the rest. I think that is because our faces have a lot of fat around the lip area and that makes it stick out.

>>5720609
That's fine. As long as you stop giving me contact autism. It's not like shitposting is very special or noteworthy.
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>>5720608
your face is kinda long, but imo you pass as a plain looking chick. with makeup, you'd pass better. grow out hair more and maybe add some waves, that'll help you pass more. also maybe thing your eyebrows just a little. how long on mones?
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>>5720281
No
>>5720608
Haha no
>>5720480
Nooo
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>>5720615
No, stop making me feel bad about them.
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>>5720633
And you? You're a 40 year old hobo tranny. And those glasses, they help. Without them, oh god.
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>>5720633
>tries to be put down others by saying they don't/won't pass
>looks like a prototypical tranny, themselves
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>>5720572
I have, and it has not ever looked good. When i tie myhair up for a long time it gets wavy tho and that can look ok sometimes.
I like curly hair tho. I embrace it.
>>5720608
You look like you dress well. But your face looks stern and your hair is thin. I would work on those problems.
>>5720625
Yea if i had a more girly wardrobe and stuff i would get on better
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>>5720608
>forgive me I'm came from russia
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>>5720633
Lay off the meth
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>>5720520
i know i had a comment or two, and i appreciate them, im just trying to get a feel for it, you know get a more broad opinion

>>5720560
yup, im gonna save up and look to get that fixed at some point, otherwise the rest is okay?

>>5720572
sorry, my webcam is a potato.
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>>5720633
your insecurity is leaking, try not being so bitter and offer feedback
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>>5720633
crack addicted transvestite hobo slash former rock star/5
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>>5720608
I'd say so, but yeah, you do look pretty stern/hard. I'm not sure how one would visibly relax one's facial features, though.

>>5720627
Oh, but I don't want to be special or noteworthy. I just want to be accepted for who I am, y'know? A shitposter.

>>5720633
You look bretty gud, aside from the fedorable fingerless gloves. And the necklace, but that's just my fashion preference. Good job/10.

>>5720657
Really? Well, shows me what I know about hair and stuff. Keep doing you, then- you look good as is, I'd say.
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>>5720657
yeah wavy hair looks better on you
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I am not on HRT and in general have no sense of fashion or and idea of what to do with my hair other than the most basic things.
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>>5720718
2cute4me
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>>5720669
yeah, you got really smooth lines there, no prominent brow bossing, particularly feminine oval shape

i mean if i started nitpicking i would maybe point out your jaw shape and somewhat bulbous shape of your nose but they should smoothen out with HRT. depends on whether you want to just pass as any woman or an attractive woman
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>>5720698
Ty
>>5720718
You're gonna be just fine
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This thread is bullshit. Stop worrying about what other people think and just look the way you want to look.
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Reposting from old pass potential thread since that thread died and why not (pre HRT obviously)
>tfw ill end up looking like the supreme gentleman in a miniskirt
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>>5720644
>>5720649
Wait, shit. Did I fall for the standard tricks? Was my "bretty gud" ill-applied?

>>5720718
Your face and lips, especially, are extraordinarily feminine. Nice eyes/10, keep following your dreams.
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>>5720742
my former high school bully/5
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>>5720627
>>5720628
>>5720657
>>5720691
I see, thanks.
I'm aware I have a long face and yeah, make up helps. Also, my hair was in a braid in that pic, is pretty long actually
>>5720633
>Haha no
There goes my self esteem...
>>5720659
>russia
Why does everyone say the same?
I'm 100% Spaniard. Even when I was little people thought I was from eastern Europe.

Also ''hur dur, you look like Kylo Ren'' joke.
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>>5720730
the prettier the better in my book, so any and everything you have helps.
ive started saving up for ffs down the line for things hrt wont be able to fix
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Hey I know I don't pass but I'm hoping I can get some advice, I really don't know what to do with my hair, if I should grow it out a bit or get it cut with a fringe? Also any other general advice
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>>5720633
Shut the fuck up you're a text book hon
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>>5720754
>spaniard
okay padre i don't believe you
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>>5720750
w-where do you live?
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>>5720379

I don't know anything about botany but I can talk physics.
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>>5720760

You pass pretty well, actually. Growing your hair out more might help a lot!
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>>5720760
> I know I don't pass
self-hating nigga please. don't make me slap you with a mackerel

also don't post top down angles where the size of chin is greatly diminished
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>>5720768
Why not?
My father was from Cantabria and my mother Extremadura
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>>5720718
You'll be fine.
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I'll never be as pretty as any of the girls here ;_____;
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>>5720362
Long time no see.
Sill cute as fuck.
Pass without any issues / 10
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It's been a while since I've posted an image; but wondering what you guys think :P
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>>5720822
You pass, but that lipstick is a red flag to me. I'd avoid it.
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>>5720880
What's red flag-ish about it to you?
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>>5720931
not him, but I'd say it's too strong for your skin tone

subtle stuff usually works better
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>>5720931
Don't get me wrong, you're pretty, but like the other anon said, it's a bit too sharp for your skin tone imo. Also for some reason one of the staples of being a hon or a crossdresser is to wear really in-your-face lipstick. Obviously you're neither, but some people might get the wrong idea.
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>>5720822
You remind me of the drummer on the Dresdan Dolls.
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>>5720972
I see what you mean. To be fair, the webcam is a bit extreme with the colors, I'm not as albino, and the red is a bit lighter. but advice well noted :P.
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um what do,
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>>5721010

Contour yr nose better. Like I'm pretty sure your makeup is making your nose look bigger than it actually is.
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>>5720718
2cute, would continue dating you.
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>>5721025
nah it's always been big. I hated that thing all my life, even as a guy. don't know if I should go for a feminine looking nose or just a regular sized one considering I am not 100% sure I want to transition.
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>>5721010
You actually have a cute nose, in my opinion.
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>>5720822
Passable, and rather attractive at that - but more importantly want to give me the rest of the Tostitos on your bead? I'm super hungry right now.
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>>5721077
haha, sorry love, they're mine >:)
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>>5720330
>>5720310


These are cis women, you can't trick me.
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>>5721054

Contouring can make a huge difference, look up some YouTube tutorials about it if your nose looking too big bothers you.

>>5721121

I'm definitely not cis but okay I guess!
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>>5721097
I'll trade sex for snacks. I'm -really- hungry hun.
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>>5720223
>i quit this board and go to susans

pls you don't have to do this
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I'm pre-everything, what are my prospects?

>inb4 tumblr meme haircut
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>>5721157
You'll turn out cute as fuck.

(I like the haircut)
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>>5721145
>Someone offering to prostitute themselves for snacks.

I like this board.
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>>5721151
i got lotsa money we could run away together you and i anon
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>>5720223
Hi idktbh~ looking as cute as always (we need to hang out sometime)

>>5720281
Pass, very svelte looking

>>5720310
pass but not my type

>>5720330
pass and pretty

>>5720481
hot (and androgynous pass)

>>5720608
no pass, sorry.

>>5720633
not really passing

>>5721211
heh
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>>5721211
who the FUCK is this ?
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>>5721231
my dad
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>>5721231

Some girl that used post lewd pictures of herself.
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>>5721145
Charming offer, but I still decline :P
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>>5721225
ilu neffie! you do live kinda seattle dont you? we should totally do that!
>>5721231
im op silly
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>>5721263
f-Fine. Free sex, and I'll even cuddle. So lonely. You can keep your snacks, you just are so pretty and seemingly witty!
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>>5721268
That's a lot of cash you have there. Pity if someone were to give you more!
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>>5721268
k I need to speak to you immediately, pm me
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>>5721225


Straighten your hair and learn how to style it afterwards and you'll pass. Your face reminds me of renegademaria pre-transition.
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>>5721306
shiiiit im at the mall eating chipotle so my bobs will get bigger
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>>5721313
>mall eating chipotle


Enjoy your e-coli
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>>5721307
Oh I know how to style it, its just wet.
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>>5721313
lol stop it idiot.... eat something f*kin* real like sbarros
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How I imagine these threads end up going down once contact info is given out.
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>>5721316
stop. the hormones still protect me ok
>>5721323
what even is that??
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>>5721132

I reversed image searched you, you actually are trans. My bad sis, you're really pretty btw.
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>>5721225
>pass and pretty

Thanks c: It still trips me out that people think I'm pretty, like obviously I'm not complaining but I dunno, I'm not used to this kind of attention.
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>>5721351
it's pizza for registered post-plebs.... dummy
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>>5721380

Stop posting your picture until you grow your fucking hair out. Until then you're just gonna look like a femme gay dude.
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#masterofthehons
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>>5721425
i avoid cheese so there better be a cheeseless option...
>>5721502
also shut up ffs takes like 6 months before changes completely show after swelling and stuff. you look fine
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>>5721512
I was just kidding ;-;
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>>5720310
Too much Photoshop but props for that witcher medallion
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>>5721512
lmao cheeseless, more like godless..... k
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Good lighting,I don't wear makeup:
1 year, 5 months HRT.
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>>5720223
Pass

>>5720281
Pass, cute but eyebrows are a little far apart

>>5720310
>>5720330
marry me/10

>>5720481
Pass, it's a little bit easier to notice once you mention it, but nothing in particular that would make me consider that you're trans in the first place unless your voice isn't trained. The glasses help too, and are cute.

>>5720608
You could pass, but you don't right now.

>>5720633
portland barista/10

>>5720718
Jaw is strong, most other features are feminine. You could pass on HRT, you don't right here but it's more hair/clothes/beard shadow than facial features, and that's all easily fixable stuff. Hair is at a super awkward length, but there's nothing to be done about that until it grows out; once it does, get it shaped up and part it from the side, somewhere above the back half of the eyebrow.

>>5720742
You have potential and you can pass rather easily assuming you take presentation seriously, but it will take a little while. You aren't passing pre-HRT tier and probably not passing pre-6 months tier, but very, VERY few
people are.

>>5720760
You pass here, at least. There's things you could be doing better, but they dont make you clockable. Eyebrows seem to reverse taper (thin in the center of your face, thickens as it goes back), that should be the first thing you fix, but if those are your natural eyebrows, don't get carried away with overplucking. The fact that you can get them to arch that dramatically will work out very well in your favor, but you'll want to tone it down until you have a better understanding of eyebrow shape.

You are correct in thinking that a fringe/bangs would be REALLY flattering. It's not even because of a high/receeding hairline like on most trans women; rather, it's a face shape thing. You can get away with longer hair (parting further to either side would help) but your face shape seems like it's inverted triangle and as such is legit made to go with bangs.
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>>5721231
iz luke sily gggg
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>>5721592
Cute. Pass.
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>>5721673
(cont 2/2)

>>5720822
I'm not sure. I'd wonder if you were trans if I saw you, but if voice was good, I'd probably drop it. Eyebrows could be a little thinner, and I'm going to echo the sentiment that a different lip color would be a lot more flattering. Overdrawing them slightly might help a lot.

>>5721010
No pass, sorry. Eyebrows seem like they need to be trimmed, and nose contour would help a lot. Jaw/eyes are fine. Also, that looks like a wig, so if it's a bad wig you need a better wig and if it's not a wig your hair looks remarkably like a wig

>>5721157
You'll pass, and be cute at that.

>>5721225
Andro leaning female, shirt/neckline need to be more femme.

>>5721380
No pass, sorry. Your eye makeup is fucking incredible, though. I've seen you post many times, I think you'd pass have no problem with longer hair but it's hard for me to visualize.

>>5721502
Pass, nothing at all that stands out that would make me think "male" even slightly.

>>5721592
Pass, easily.
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>>5721726
>I'm not sure. I'd wonder if you were trans if I saw you, but if voice was good, I'd probably drop it. Eyebrows could be a little thinner, and I'm going to echo the sentiment that a different lip color would be a lot more flattering. Overdrawing them slightly might help a lot.

My voice is pretty good, I don't get called out, or whatever xD.
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I think I've realized I'm not into trans girls anymore.

Honestly pham I think I'm into dick more than anything in the world.

I'll be /gaygen/ from now on.
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>>5721755

You're totally be fine, then. As far as lip color, I have the same thing where I'm really pale and I really like deeper reds, but it's a razor thin line between being stunning and being overbearing. I've been called out for the same exact thing on here in the past, actually.

Maybe some colors that worked for me will work for you? Whirl by MAC is a deeper color of red without being suuper rich/striking, and Softly Spoken by NYX is further understated, but still pretty deep. The latter is what I'm wearing in that pic, and it's my favorite color ever.
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>>5721775
I'll look into them, the shade I'm using is called Russian Red.
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>>5721783
>I'll look into them, the shade I'm using is called Russian Red.

By MAC, oops xD
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>>5721783

Yeah, Russian Red is awesome, but it's the nuclear red option. It's a nice color, but it's dramatic and you have to commit to the look in order for it to not stand out. You could actually make it work with heavy blush, eyeshadow, maybe some contouring, that sort of thing, if you have your heart set on it; the problem isn't the color, but more wearing it without the rest of your makeup being as striking.
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Could I ever pass? No hrt
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>>5721762
ayyy statue man went full homo. It was only a matter of time 2bh pham :^)
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>>5721808
Yeah, I'm getting into eyeshadow, I just am bad at it xD.
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>>5721673

>>>5720330 (You) #
>marry me/10

Still don't get it but thanks!
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>>5721815

The dick was too hard to pass up :^)

Bb I'd come back for the right girl tho
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>>5721673
>beard shadow
u wot. I was cleanly shaven.
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>>5721834
Beard shadow doesn't go away when you shave, hon.
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>>5721856
Like I said, I'm not even on HRT yet.
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>>5721865
hrt doesnt make beard shadow go away either.
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>>5721875
Then what does?
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>>5721487
Go choke on a dick.
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>>5721882
Good foundation
Epilation
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>>5721834

So, beard shadow is when you're cleanly shaven, but the hair follicles are a dark enough color to be visible under the skin, in the time that they are growing back in. That's why when guys are clean shaven, you can sometimes see a darker shade on their upper lip, face, etc.
For you, it is clearly visible on your upper lip, but I can't see it anywhere else on your face in that pic.

It doesn't go away with HRT, because already developed facial hair follicles don't go away on HRT. The hair changes to become thinner and less coarse, and it grows in slower, both of which have a SLIGHT impact on shadow, but not enough to have any effect on whether or not it's visible unless it's already almost gone.

The only way to get rid of the hair/shadow is through laser hair removal or electrolysis, which kills the hair follicles so that they are no longer growing, under your skin or otherwise. Depending on where you are, laser is generally rather cheap ($300 for 6 full face sessions what i paid in New York), and it's effective if you have light skin with dark brown or black hair, which you do. Doesn't work as well for red hair, blonde hair, or darker skin tones.

Hope this was helpful, and cleared things up a bit. Like I said, it's not something to worry about, if you're lucky enough to be an effective candidate for laser hair removal than it's cheap and effective with today's technology.
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>>5721865
go ask /mtfg/ for advice
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>>5721933
>go ask /mtfg/
Hell no. I went there once and have zero desire to ever again. That place is full of some of the most vile acting, self loathing people I've seen in my time on this site.
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>>5721889

I mean, regardless of the tone, he's completely right. It's not going to change without growing it out. Ever, full stop, period. I know that can be shitty to hear, but it's one of the easiest things to change naturally. When you get down to only the face, most people can't pass without at least pixie-cut tier of long hair, including a ton of cis women.

Face is passable, hair holds you back. If you're in a situation where you need to present as male for work or family or something like that, so you need it short, it's totally understandable. But you also have to understand that a commitment to being able to present flawlessly as a guy will -lead to you looking like a guy-. This goes for cis women too, doubly so for trans women.
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>>5720633
Come on image poster - Sonic would never do this- I never found her to be malicious- is this ANgie trolling?
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>>5721380
You'd pass if we were in the 1920s, but we're not. Grow out your hair, as others have said.
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>>5721762
>another chaser reveals why they like trans girls
it was clear from the start anyway. hypermasculine dudebro types who go on /lgbt/ always turn out to be fullblown fags in the closet
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Already posted this in the last thread but only a couple ppl responded
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>>5722111
And the thread before that, and the thread before that...
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>>5722111

Its hard to tell from this pic. You look like a girl who isn't really taking care of herself.
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>>5722126
Haha no, actually just the one
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Could I pass light?
Its a little old but I'm 22 and haven't gotten any more "manly" looking since I was 19.
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>>5722171
>>5722171
*lgbt
New phone keeps autocorrecting literally everything
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>>5721967
Ya, well I get called nothing but ma'am, miss, lady, and love by strangers...and its starting to show me just how biased 4chan is compared to reality. I thought so after my last post, but I just wanted to confirm.
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When you've been on HRT for a year and you don't pass but you're still trying.
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>all these qts ITT
>tfw you're a woman trapped in a hon's body
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I wish I passed
I am going on a new diet starting tomorrow
I hope my frame isnt as bad as I think
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>>5722362
Sarah?
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>>5722362
Make sure you only drink water and nothing else.
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>>5722362
I know you're not gonna take this compliment, but you do pass. Good luck on your diet, they're a pain in the ass, but totally worth it.
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>>5722389
I mean like eat still just cut pop and suger out
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>>5722303

If you were so certain you passed, you wouldn't be posting in -every single thread-, or on reddit all the damn time. That niggling insecurity in the back of your mind is telling you exactly what we're telling you. We're not biased, you're delusional as fuck. Even well-meaning people here are constantly telling you that you don't pass.

Get the fuck over it and stop asking people for the honest truth if you can't handle it.
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>>5722362
I've seen you posted for years now and I have to say you have a every kind face


Happy Valentines day sheen
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>>5721225
as long as you hide your face with your hair, everything is going to be alright.
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>>5722343
I'd say you pass. Face structure is a bit manly though.
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tfw someone replies to everyone but you
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>>5722355
I think you pass and have a lot of potential
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>>5722303

I wasn't trying to be mean when I said grow your hair/you look like gay dude, if you pass in IRL then great but you really don't in pictures.

Some girls have the opposite problem where they pass in pictures but not so much IRL.
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>>5720281

WTF Taz u have the same birthday as me? pretty sure that means we need to fuck :P

Non Aquarians stay mad jelly at your inferior intellects and tiny penises..... u have a big dick like me right Taz? :^)

>>5720608

Kylo Ren ayyyy

That droid stole a freighter pham xD

>>5720760
>other general advice

Suck more dicks.... start with mine 2bh (:

I saved your pic from last time because it was kinda blurry, this one is a deceptive angle. If you want legit feedback then post an unangled headshot or link an imgur album of multiple angles. I am somewhat interested.

>>5720822
>wondering what you guys think

Wait until you pass to post again.

And get that fucking bag of Tostitos off your bed you filthy barbarian scum.

>>5721010

>what do

Suicide is a noble, face saving thing in Eastern cultures right?

>>5721762

>2016
>pretending you are me

Nah bitch nigga, you couldnt get that lucky. I mean at least if you are going to pretend you are me make it somewhat believable.

U jelly I have trans girls on the dick familia? Its OK I get jelly of myself sometimes, but then I realize that I am actually me :^)

Best of luck friend (:

>>5722343
Its OK I will wait for u bb :P


Happy V Day fags
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>>5723505
actually my birthday is on the thirteenth, but when I posted it was already fourteenth in Europe

but yeah, big tits, big dicks. trannylyfe
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>>5723505
I will say I think it's creepy that you always pick me out amongst the pics and are always saying you'll wait, but at the same time I'm trans and have daddy issues too so I think it's cute too.
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>>5720615
Is that a cis woman? If so I feel a lot better about my ankles now.
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Still presenting male but the cracks are starting to show.
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>>5723978
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>>5723719
>I will say I think it's creepy that you always pick me out amongst the pics and are always saying you'll wait, but at the same time I'm trans and have daddy issues too so I think it's cute too.

No you dont seem to understand. The reason I pick you out and say I will wait is because when you are passable I am gonna be your daddy bby girl. Dont worry you will be able to look up at me and grab onto my well formed Deltoids and run your hands along my abs while I roughly pound the fuck out of you until you are moaning and drooling like a retard ... one day pham one day :P
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>mfw when I won the genetic lottery

But really, how fucked am I family?
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>>5723981

not bad bby
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>>5723505
I made a trip just for you Carth. Stalk you always and 4eva bb.
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/pol/ poster here, i'd date some of you.
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>>5723999
>won genetic lottery
>still born male
i dont think so familia
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>>5723981
No pass, but you could pass if you got some nice bangs and trimmed your brows though.

>>5722362
I love you sheen, I think you're genuinely awesome. I'm sorry, you don't pass :(

>>5722355
No pass but you have potential. Keep growing out your hair, get good at wearing makeup, and maybe trim your brows.

>>5721813
Like if you started HRT? Sure. I love your glasses.

>>5721673
Pass

>>5721592
Pretty passable.

>>5721502
Your eyebrows need shaping.
Pretty passable.

>>5721211
Pass
Please buy me things.

>>5721157
If you started HRT you'd probably pass.

>>5720822
>>5721010
Edited

>>5720362
Yes, very much so.

>>5720330
Reshape your brows, pass.
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Pass and qt(multipass):
>>5720310
>>5720330
>>5720760
>>5720822
>>5721010
>>5721211
>>5721425
>>5721673

Pass:
>>5720223
>>5720281
>>5720362
>>5720633
>>5721225
>>5721502
>>5721592
>>5722111
>>5722343

Getting there:
>>5720558
>>5720608
>>5720718
>>5723981
>>5722362

Don't pass:
>>5720480
>>5720742
>>5721157
>>5721380
>>5723999

Take it with a grain of salt though, its pretty hard to say just by looking at pictures and its just my cis-scum opinion.
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No hope/10
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some times i feel people arent reading the posts and just replying to the images
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>>5724030
moap, can i have your input too?
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>>5720633
stop stealing my pics
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>post in thread on soc with "girls only no trans allowed" in the description
>because fuck that shit i do what i want
>nobody calls me out
>get called cute
>mystery anon from the hon lagoon gets buttjellyand starts spamming my pic all over 4chan
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>>5724147
Link me to it, sorry for passing over it.

>>5724089
No pass but totally hope. Your skin looks really rough start using more facial moisturizer. Trim up/reshape your brows, wear some lip color.
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>>5724175
>post in thread on soc with "girls only no trans allowed" in the description
Hope you don't do that when you date a man because that's a quick way to get beaten up at worst or cold shouldered by him and his friends and best.
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>>5724185
thanks, im >>5720480 you think i can make it once the hrt gates open?
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>>5724191
hurr durr no shit bitch

these threads are such a fucking circle jerk why do they exist
if you wanna know if you pass just go outside

inb4 constructive criticism
you all know damn well thats not what these threads are for
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>>5722000
there's an approximately 123% chance its angie
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>>5724215
>throwing a bitch fit and insulting everyone in the thread
I don't keep up with trips but you seem pretty rude.
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>>5724215
but thats is why im here, i want to get better, so eat your dick
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>>5724226
i dont support threads like this

they dont help anyone

start an advice thread.
this is wasteful competition.
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>>5724235
what makes you think that would be any better than this?
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Just got on.

I'm
>>5720718
and I got a bunch of helpful advice.
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>>5724215
Sonic, I like you but you're being a bitch. Yea, we all post here for validation, what's the bfd?
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>>5724245
meant to be in reply to
>>5724235
>>5724215
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>>5723505
>Suicide is a noble, face saving thing in Eastern cultures right?
yes, yes it is. nobody is stopping you ;)
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>>5724244
passgen:
anon says yes or no
is anon a good judge?
is anon a troll?
does anon just hate me?
is anon just a fan?
THE WORLD MAY NEVER KNOW

advicegen:
anon is forced to reply with more than yes/no
anon makes a suggestion, rather than yes/no statement
other posters actually have some meaningful content to form a discussion around
if anon gives bad advice, other people can say "no thats bad advice" and possibly explain why
if anon gives good advice, cool. mission success

>>5724247
idk i need more sleep and i'm just annoyed at someone stealing my pics, esp considering i dont like threads like this

soz
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I have large shoulders and I want to die. I feel like the pic
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>>5720235
hon general.
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Would you fugg me?
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>>5724185

But her eyebrows are good.
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>>5724280
you pass
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>>5724267

It's weird, i don't know what would make you pass: more time on HRT? FFS? But what kind of FFS? I'd put my tongue in your boipussy though.
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>>5724275
Well that is irritating. It backfired for whoever did it though cus of course you pass and actually look really good!
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>>5724294
Great shitpost m8.
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>>5724294
well fuck you too
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>>5724289
Well I'm andro right now. If I tried it would be more obvious. I can answer for you though: I need upper lip area shortened, nosejob and chin reduction. And thank you :-)
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>>5724247
gonna expand on my opinion a bit more

threads like this serve the same function as tier lists.
someone who gets ranked high gets mild temporary elation, but still possibly has anxiety about going outside and facing real life where maybe they dont pass, no matter what the tier list or passgen says.

someone who gets low ranked (or told "no" in a thread like this) might possibly have low self esteem already and needs help and encouragement.
she does not need to be compared to girls who have already put in the time.

or maybe someone's face is good but they still dont pass in real life.
thats probably because of how they walk and talk, or they need better hair.

a thread like this doesnt do anything worthwhile for a girl who needs help, and I'd even go so far as to say it's detrimental.
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>>5724313
as someone new to this board, this post made me strongly reevaluate my initial impression of you. you have a good point in what you said.
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>>5724313
I agree with all of that. At the same time, this is one of the more interesting topics and like the only mtf thread where we actually post pics.

I HATE mtfgen. It has nothing to do with anything and isn't even fun if you're not a longtime trip. Just let us have our fun. Also, this is laser-slut. Dunno if you remember me. Lol
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>>5724212
Probably, your brows look good, hair looks good, br4ows look good, eyes look alright. Worst trait is your chin but its no worse than mine. Be prepared for it to take a few years though.

>>5724267
Fix up your bangs and brows.
Could be passable one day.

>>5724282
I demand the thinnest of eyebrows.
My brows are too thick right now,
Death to thickbrows.
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>>5724330
Yea, sonic is actually chill as fuck.
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>>5724339
That's mainly the reason I posted my picture here, no other place on the board for it really.

I also second hating /mtfg/, I think I even posted about it in this thread yesterday. That place is vile and everyone seems to hate each other and themselves.
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>>5724340
You're like the worst judge of eyebrows. Lol
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>>5723505

Ohhhh sorry sweetie. I was just playing. Don't be so upset.

Can't handle a little banter?
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>>5724348
Moap still passes better than you anon.
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>>5720223
>tfw never going to pass
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>>5724345
Hahaha. Yay, I'm not alone! My ideal thread would be one in which we post lots of pictures as well as talk about makeup, fashion, fitness and dating. You know, practical girly things. Alas, there's no such thing. No one to trade pics of cute outfits with. Just anime.. anime and bullshit
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>>5724293
i know that
i've been transitioning for over two years and i go outside and date and shit

the only reason i even know someone posted my pic here is because maddie told me like an hour ago

when some retard posts my pics on here and tries to say i dont pass, it doesnt affect me at all.
it only affects everyone else.
i'm already good. i already have confidence.
but other girls here see that shit and it affects them.

like just a few weeks ago someone told me muffs was talking shit about me
i decide sure i'll look

and oh guess fucking what
either her or samsa or whoever took a pic of these two random trans girls behind their back without their knowledge

the two girls looked really awkward and had messy hair

that shit doesnt hurt me
i have better shit to do now then getting in retarded piss fights with gretchen being a stupid fucking cunt

but actions like that do hurt other trans girls
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>>5724313
As someone who has posted in one of these threads and been told 'no' and 'get ffs' it was extremely crushing to my self esteem. Maybe what they said is true but not helpful, and made be put off going outside dressed female for fear of being an unpassing hon (which is what I was told)

I don't expect hugboxing but maybe it's my fault for thinking I was doing better than I apparently was.
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>>5724340
cant say i know what yours looks like, but ill take your word for it.
anything i can do to speed it up perhaps? im planning on ffs, but at which point should you go in for that?
thanks for the feedback, it was more positive than i had expected
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>>5724356
That's awesome! Imma just do me over here, you do you.
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>>5724364
See, this is another reason I avoid and dislike /mtfg/. I've had friends who used to go there and they were all unanimous in saying that in addition to all the shitposting and hate, it was also filled with an absolutely insane amount of drama and people being mean towards one another.
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>>5724364
Wow, ok.
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>>5724368
Looks similar to yours.
Theres a lot of dieting you can do, drop red meats and junk/greasy food and increase the soy and tofu intake. Peaches and strawberries are great too. If you eat meat chicken is the best Ive been told.

Purera Mirifica has mixed reviews, I think it works so long as you get the real shit from thailand but Im just one person. Start using moisturizer on your hands/arms/face, grow out your hair but keeps your bang about where they're at.

Pretend to be a grill online and fake it until you make it.
FSS isn't something Ive looked at really because Im a broke motherfucker, but Id say wait until you're atleast two years HRT before getting any plastic surgery done.
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>>5724377
this is why i never visited that thread more than a hand full of times. as someone else also said it looks like it already has well "in crowd", like high school all over
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>>5724393
looks like im on the right track then! ive done or stated all of your suggestions, with the exception of soy/herb productions, im not a big believer in phytoestrogens having any noticeable effect, but thats just me though.
also ffs after 2 years sounds reasonable to me, hopefully ill have money and a doc by then
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>>5724339
i do
hope you're doing well

>>5724365
"get ffs" isnt advice unless you got an extra 30 grand lying around

there are lots of things you can do.
i dont know anything about makeup but we got girls who do.
ask edie. all opinions you might have about her aside, she knows makeup.
ask maddie. she's getting really good at it.
idk who else
i dont really wear any except sometimes eyeliner+mascara

if you need ffs you can still do shit with hair and clothing and voice and your walk+posture.
every little bit adds up.

but like
imo passing only matters insofar as what you want out of it

do you fear for your safety in public or when walking alone? you probably need to pass
do you hate getting misgendered by strangers? you probably need to pass
do you want to get dicked down? meh it helps but its not a requirement
do you want a boyfriend? you probably need to pass, but even then not necessarily

are you a transbian who lives in portland or seattle? you probably dont need to pass, unless you cant stand getting misgendered by strangers.

>>5724377
i shouldnt have stuck around for so long but i've made some good internet friends there so i cant regret it entirely
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>>5724425
I believe it, but I'm also am on the fence about the lumis, project monarch, ayylmaos, and jeebus; so I might just listen to stupid shit. Remember to not work out anything except your legs and abs, even then keep the working out down until post-HRT.
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>>5724445
Where should I ask for advice then if not one of these threads? mtfgen? Also passing is important to me for your first two reasons.
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>>5724446
will do, got them down pretty nicely atm, at least so im told. gotta work more on my butt though.
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So many girls with potential

brb offing myself because I don't have any
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>>5724460
to answer your question i decided to make a thread

>>5724480
>>5724480
>>5724480
>>5724480
>>5724480

this is the least i could do

>>5724480
>>5724480
>>5724480
>>5724480
>>5724480

>>5724480
>>5724480
>>5724480
>>5724480
>>5724480

migrate
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>>5724462
Get into corsets, I wish I had gotten into corsets years ago. They redistribute fat from your gut to your breasts and ass.
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>>5724446
>I'm also on the fence about lumis, project monarch, ayylmaos, and jeebus

Neat. Nice to see someone else who's interested in conspiracy theories and stuff!
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>>5724488
i had one but it was not very comfortable, it kept making my hips numb, perhaps you can help me out with that?
im 34 29 34.5 if that helps any
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>>5724503
From what I've been told the rules are you get a corset based on your waist measurement and the corset size is what your waist measurement will be compressed to. Like my waist is 29" too but my corset is a 26. The site I got mine from recommended lower(4-7" smaller) but it was my first corset so I went bigger, Im glad I did. Id recommend doing the same for you. Like heres a link to the one Im currently wearing.
The rules tend to be that if you cant breathe or are in pain loosen or remove thee corset, if you cant take it fully tied up then put it on loose at first and work your way up.
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>>5724567
yea, i borrowed a friends some years ago, and it was so comfortable, i could close it down to 24 all the way with no discomfort at all. the one i got was also a 24 but not nearly as good, idk why though...
also your link is gone
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>>5724340
I'm the eyebrow lady. Mine are tons thinner now
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>>5724594
Sorry, Im stoned.
https://www.orchardcorset.com/corsets/waist-trainer-satin-waspie-corset-cs-201/

The next one I get Ill probably do a 24, they're supposed to be good for your back too.
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>>5724630
How different are waist trainers from corsets?

Are they not as effective?
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>>5724630
yea ive got a fair bit of back problems and when i used it, it did help a lot with them.
the one i had was basically the same as yours.
i think ill order one later tonight after going though amazon
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>>5724646
Pretty sure this one has waist trainer in the name to entice you to buy it, I dont think it functions any different than another corset. If you mean waist clinchers then yeah those are far less effective than actual corsets.

>>5724652
Nice, Im gonna buy one when I head to the ren faire, yeah itll be a little overpriced but Im willing to pay extra if its pretty and I get to see it and wear it in person before buying.
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>>5724667
yea, i really with there were any way i coudl try one out before buying, the only shop i can find that sells them are 6 hours by train away.
it would be even better if i could get a custom made one... actually i may see if i can get that done locally
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can please someone help me? I'm not on anything yet, I didn't do my hair, I'm balding. I have a huge crooked jaw and my features are all ugly and off. I feel insane... ;( ;( ;(
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>>5724702
>I didn't do my hair
I mean, what can you possibly do with you hair?
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>>5724340

Moap, how am I doing for a pre-anything?
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>>5724702
Get therapy, get on hrt. Things will make more sense in due time. You have big pretty eyes though and I think you have a lot of potential.
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>>5724706
nothing, praying that estrogen/the big 3/stemcell's somehow do a miracle. if not then surgery.
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>>5724714
how long does it take to get on hrt? I have my first therapy session in two days.
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>>5724746
Depends. Took me like 6 months but if you can find an informed consent clinic then it's prettyuch instant. I did both cus I needed someone else to tell me what I already knew. If that makes any sense.
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Also, sonic is a butthurt bitch.
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>>5724711
you wouldn't happen to live near burlington vt would you
i know a trans up there, looks just like you
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>>5724746
Too. Fucking. Long.

It depends on the therapist, and confidence and knowledge can shorten the screening process, but generally, they take 2-3 sessions to do a history check, and another 2-3 sessions for a mental health diagnosis before you can begin blood testing.

afaik, therapy is the short path
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>>5724711
You look completely male, like a crossdresser, you need to start working on your hair, eyebrows, and delve into makeup. Then things would go a bit better for you. But for now, definitely not a pass.
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>>5724782
Ok. Well, that's your experience. 4-6 sessions can take 6 months if you only keet once a month like I did. Jeez, now I remember why I stopped coming here.
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>>5724783
I'm pre-hrt, if that changes anything.
Any particular advice on makeup?
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>>5724814
sorry I get pressured into going weekly.
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Just self med, it's safe unless you're a baka.
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>>5724823
look you're gonna need ffs with that chin, nose and brow, there's no way around it. save up for it.
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>>5724833
im having my first session in 2 weeks and asked for weekly after that, im really looking forward to it
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>>5724823
Find a shade of foundation that matches your skin tone, and play around with eye shadow colors. Try out different shades of lipsticks, blush, and contour powders. There are plenty of guide online to show you how to apply it.

Also, get some proper outfits lined up. Use colors and patterns like stripes. For broad shoulders, things with straps, or something dark to cover them can create the illusion they are smaller. Also, the earlier you work on your voice, the better you may sound earlier on during your hrt transition.
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>>5724833
You're bragging about that?
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>>5724711
i want to slap your moot-looking fag face so bad
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>>5724782
I live in Califronia. I got on HRT in a month. I went to a Trans-specialist place that talked to me for an hour, asked me to get a blood draw, came back in like three weeks with the test results, and got on HRT immediately.
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>>5724847
>just save up for it :^)
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>>5724865
>>5724863
samefag

and it's hardly bragging when your therapist is a hon
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>>5724847
ive always had a hard time telling if a brow bone is bad from just the front shot and lighting like that

im >>5720223 and ill probably want some ffs in a few years to correct testosterone damage. maybe im not looking at it right but that persons brow looks as bad as mine and it doesnt seem to hurt my passing in every day life though it definitely doesnt help

they will need to fix their chin and nose probably though...
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>>5724886
>samefag
wrong you manfaced faggot
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>>5720742
weren't you the person with the shitty wig and the same photo, all the time?
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>>5724939
> manfaced
duh, that's why I'm here. I want to know how to be less man-faced.

> faggot
correct!
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>>5724714
also, thank you for the compliment about my eyes. I hope to god you are right.
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>>5724847
yeah, that's what I keep hearing. I'm a little depressed about it, but it is what it is.

>>5724855
Thanks!

I'll keep the stripes in mind when I look for outfits. Better to be on the safe side. I'll have to work more on voice as well.
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Help me I've fallen and I can't get up
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>>5725401

You have potential, do you want to e-date me?
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>>5725462
Sorry pal, this asshole's taken.
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>Tfw hon
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>>5721592
Worse lighting, no glasses (on phone in case pic is flipped)
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>>5725697
Well if you shaved your moustache..
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>>5725737
Sometimes I shave, and sometimes it's like.... What's the point
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How fucked/10?

>tfw you could have been beautiful of you were born cis
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>>5725799
You look prettier than most of the people here, including me (but I guess that goes without saying.)
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>>5725799
Why the fuck do you have short hair? Makes you just look like a dude, 95% of MtFs can't pull off short hair, don't even try, you look like an ugly 30 year old dyke at best.
>>5725856
You're cute, keep it up
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Haven't started hormones yet

>>5720281
You pass, also happy birthday

>>5720310
Style/10

>>5720362
Yes

>>5720389
You look like my GM.
Also, dang :c

>>5720760
I like your hair. I think you just need to work on volume instead of length. (btw, I'm biased cause I think bob-ish looking hairstyles are cute)

>>5720822
Actual, real life magic-caster/10
You pass, btw

>>5721010
Work on your nose. I don't think it would give you away, but I think you'd look better if you contoured it.

>>5721157
I like the haircut. Also, you already look p. androgynous

>>5721380
You look like an aunt that would be named Robin or something like that. Grow your hair out a little bit more.

>>5720608
You could pass
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>>5725910
I'll take 30yr old dyke. I'm pre and growing it out.
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>>5725697
arya stark?
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I'm 18, pre everything. Do I even look the least bit feminine
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Help
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>>5726447
Yes. You will make a very pretty girl.
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>>5726447

Yeah you're gonna pass with flying colors.
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>>5726470
How is anyone supposed to be able to tell anything from that pic
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>>5726447
you will do great
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nervous about posting/never done it before. looking for some constructive criticism on what i can do to improve chances of passing. i know ill look better once my bangs grow out a bit and some time passes, but kinda wanna know if i could work on anything now besides voice.

try n be nice plz bbs
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>>5726593
wow I wonder who you are voting for
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>>5726625
jill stein ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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>>5726593
i like you. youre right, i think that bangs will really help.
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pre erthing

1st appt with psych wed tho tho

i wish hair grew faster
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>>5726681
after a couple months on hrt and longer hair and some weight gain you could pass! also, take biotin for faster hair growth.
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>>5726681


Your eyes are great...


but the jaw and mouth is problematic....
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>>5725959
>You look like my GM.
Is he a good GM?
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Just fuck me up senpai
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Are my proportions too fucked up? I'm 5'11".
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Fukken a forgot my pic
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>>5720223
did they hire a tranny body replacement?
>>>/r9k/26504673
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>>5724702
you're the most pained-looking person i've seen in a long time
[spoiler]besides myself[/spoiler]
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>>5725697

>>5726184
Shit, you're right!

>tfw no Arya Stark lookalike trap to cuddle with.
>whyevenlive.gif
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Kik? Mine is 777rodrigo m into trannies
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>>5726681
AYY LMAO
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>>5724004
>I made a trip just for you Carth. Stalk you always and 4eva bb.

Hello friend :^)

Do you play a band instrument? I was classically trained in the Trumpet and Coronet familia.

>>5724294

Thx for telling me I pass.... life now complete 2bh xD

>>5724352
>Don't be so upset.

Upset? lol no, when my friend told me to come look in this thread because someone was pretending to be me my reaction was "What?!?!? Really!?!?... awesome but I bet they didnt do it right". My ego is almost as big as my dick pham, so when you pretend to be me it just makes me feel special and gives me an erection 2bh.

>Can't handle a little banter?

I can handle ALLLLL the bants u have to offer friend, jimmies remain unrustled. I must have really touched you in a special place to get you on the dick this hard pham :^)

Damn this thread is hella shit 2bh does anyone that is on HRT even post in these threads anymore? kek
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>>5729007
Yeah, how did you guess? Jazz/blues guitar, bass, drums, piano and starting to dick around with clarinet myself.

Muted trumpet is the sexiest jazz solo instrument.
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>>5729043
>Yeah, how did you guess?

Just a hunch :^)
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>>5729076
I told you once before, stahp. Seriously though I feel like you just see right through me. What's that about pham?
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do I pass lgbt??
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>>5729007
Hannibro, how do you get qt transgirls on your dick?

I need to know for reasons.
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>>5729191
I love this new meme
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>>5729965
It's a superpower. Gives off Internet pheromones that make transgirls qtcocks get moist with excitement.

LOL jk amirite

But seriously, as a Trans girl who wants his dick, it's his personality. There's just something about him I can't put my finger on. And I know you're reading this and yes you've totally won.
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Do I pass?
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>>5725856
Keep it up senpai

>>5725959
Disgusting

>>5726447
I like your style. You'll do fine.

>>5726681
Chin is a bit large, but other than that you'll be fine.

>>5727332
You look like a genetic girl that looks like a young boy, if that makes any sense.

>>5728081
You gotta do somethin' with that hair if you wanna look feminine (Even though I totally dig it) but you have a very good face I think.

>>5730710
Yeah you pa-
>those bangs
What the fug r u doin' sister
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>>5731323
They are straight cut lol sorry bad angle
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