Are any LGBT in Europe somewhat worried or concerned about the influx of migrants from an area/religion that isn't exactly known for it's tolerance of gays and transexuals? After all, there will most likely be an increase in attacks against LGBT people in Europe.
To put things into perspective, if all immigrants currently coming into the EU would permanently settle here, there will be one immigrant for every 5000 EU citizens. now, the vast majority of these people will not give a flying fuck about LGBT issues. Not all of them are muslim either if that's what you're implying. I would be more worried about the large number of EU countries that currently do not allow gay marriage for example. That's your average white christian brethren for you.
if it weren't for the "it's the current year, we don't do that anymore I mean come on" mentality our friendly white allies would be throwing us from rooftops too.
And besides that the dangers of this muslim invasion were already known 20 years ago.
>There is no solid ground on which you can make those assumptions other than muh feels
>Here is an assumption based on muh feels
LGBT are not treated well in the areas that most of these migrants are coming from, why would they suddenly become tolerant when they enter europe.
these are people that have lost everything they own except what they can carry, and they have carried these possessions while traversing this continent, a lot of them have lost several family members if not all of them. do you honestly think that what's on their mind is where the locals put their dicks, rather than trying to start anew and mend their broken lives? your kind of reasoning is severely racist, and thus it's hard to take it seriously.
Do you think that they are never going to settle and try to commit to a life in Europe? Once they do, why would they not care about something that the locals do/ accept that they most likely find morally abhorrent?
They come from a place where sodomites were killed for sport and that happens to the lucky ones.
They come here because they either want money or a small vacation from the ultraviolence while their women fight for them.
>but /pol/ and christians do exactly the same!!
No, they don't and you'll see what i mean once they'll declare your neighborhood a sharia-zone.
there are literally boys and women being raped by packs of feral niggers all over europe
this is not tolerance
still, the current stream of immigrants make up 1/5000th of all EU citizens. each and everyone one of them will not be gay bashers. so who are you actually afraid of?
you're confusing ISIS with syrian immigrants, i know that it's difficult to educate yourself about the difference, but i'm sure that you can if you try hard!
Right-wing fear mongering? No it isn't, i'm not right-wing nor do i hate Muslims. You are just so invested in your ideology that you lash out when anyone points out something that you find uncomfortable and label it racist as an easy way to dismiss it.
LOOK AT THE SURVEY RESULTS. This is not an unreasonable fear and it is certainly not racist.
>No, they don't and you'll see what i mean once they'll declare your neighborhood a sharia-zone.
But they actually do.
And whether my neighbourhood turns into Sharia or some neonazi right wing Deus vult zone, I'd be dead either way.
But really it's funny how these morally upstanding right wingers come to warn lgbt for the dangers of the muslim hordes, when we've already known for over 20 fucking years.
Who am i afraid of? The millions of people who hold hateful views. Millions of people is not a small number and the vast majority (based on pew research statistics and based on common sense) will have regressive views about homosexuality and jews. I find it incredibly worrying and saying that it is 1/5000 doesn't change that and i don't consider that a such a small number that it isn't cause for concern
>The millions of people who hold hateful views
yes, they're called your neighbours. look around you, you're more likely to have your shit beaten out of you by your friendly white neighbour if he knew you worship the dick, rather than an immigrant trying to rebuild their lives. if you fail to see the difference here, that's the part that makes you a racist.
i have a survey right here that says that i'm of average intelligence. would you like to dispute that claim with your own indepedent study?
Just wait for the enrichment when you have to live with them.
I worked in Leicester (40% English) and get death stares and insulted just for walking hand in hand with my bf down the wrong street.
Always by Muslims funnily enough, never by white English.
Thank god we're out of that shithole
The issue isn't the immigrants, they could normally be integrated, and many will be. The issue is that most won't be because Islam is not being converted to our use. What folly!
If it were just an alien system of morals that would already be plenty challenging, but Islam is far worse than that. It is an alien system of morals that demands to be considered before, and be instated as, the law of the land. In the game of memetic warfare, the world as a whole seems to be giving Islam a pass. It's a weapon like any other. We either need to unmake it and all its bearers, or we need to make it harmless to us.
you're talking as if the numbers of refugees would make it so they would become the majority of Europe's population, while they would be a really small proportion of it. Any change they could make in any survey would be really low to non existent.
>Some Christians are homophobes so why should anyone care about bringing in millions of homophobes
Really sound reasoning there. And you can scream racist as many times as you want, it doesn't make it true.
You don't need to be in a majority to cause trouble. Bringing millions of people into your country who hold homophobic/ misogynistic views will have a negative effect on those countries.
These refugees should fuck off anyway.
Majority of them is uneducated or outright illiterate, majority holds backward views incompatible with western values, majority is here just for economic benefits, majority does not even belong here since they're technically not even refugees.
But sure try to tell that to a bleeding heart liberal.
Millions of immigrants who are mostly muslim from North Africa and the Middle-east + Pew research indicating that almost all Muslims in those areas are homophobic = millions of homophobes. Idiot.
Apparently being against a disgusting homophobic sexist religion is racist, as opposed to y'know, just being against the religion, and not their race
lmao tumblrfag fuck off
do you know how statistics can be used to support a certain view even if the research doesn't support it? that's what happens when you select a few numbers out of a survey you've never even read just to prove your point. How come only three countries on that list are european countries? What are the number for poland, belarus etc? Also, "morally wrong" does not equal "must beat in head with rock"
the majority of EU immigrants right now are from Syria, why is that not on your survey? are you saying that one middle eastern country equals all of them? that almost sounds...racist :)
"Christianity is homophobic"
> True. They're so brave.
"Islam is homophobic"
> Fucking racist
Progressives only dislike homophobia and misogyny when a white guy/Christian holds those views. Apparently if Muslims are homophobic and misogynistic then it's totally fine. It's disgusting.
Pew Research is the gold standard of research. They are reputable, I have read the survey and it is worrying.
And if someone thinks homosexuality is morally wrong, they are more likely to commit a hate crime, don't you think?
okay sir, if you can find one other source that is as credible as the BBC to prove that the majority of the current immigrants are *not* from Syria, then i will agree with you, otherwise you can just go and fuck yourself. do we have a deal?
Because i'm sure we are supportive and non-critcizing of this disgusting 'religion' nothing bad will happen.. right?
I don't usually use terrible newspapers for evidence, but the town this happened in is very close to where I live, so I do take it quite personally
This is from the UN Human Rights Council, created in 2016 from data from 2015.
Please get bent and start looking big picture and not just what the media tells you.
Are you still here? Now that you have established that the majority are not Syrian, can you admit that you were wrong? If you were wrong about something so basic, don't you think that you might be wrong about your other points.
I understand that you are embarrassed (which you should be because ... holy shit) but you really should admit that you were wrong
So are you willingly retarded or just actually retarded?
holy shit, lgbt people are actually defending the islamic invasion? i thought it was just a meme, never thought anyone could actually be this dumb
pro-tip, shariah law exists on the planet and they stone gays, this isn't a conspiracy and it isn't right wing propaganda, they are actually pretty proud of such a fact as it is part of their religion
you people really are useful idiots, it's hilarious
daily reminder there is a genocide of whites going on and its happening in more ways then one
>promoting mass immigration to turn whites into minorities
>promoting race mixing to ensure less white births
>promoting homosexuality to ensure less white births
>politicians and media turning a blind eye to white women being gang raped resulting in thousands of non-white births
>British Girls Raped by Muslim Gangs on "Industrial Scale"
and another 2015
more 2015, 12/13 year olds
Girls lured into sex trade for the price of a McDonald's: Council faces legal action for not stopping Asian gang
now germany is being culturally enriched
“The embrace of immigration” is part of that, as is the involvement of Jews in social justice movements.
“You can’t talk about the civil rights movement in this country without talking about Jewish freedom riders and Jack Greenberg,” he said, telling a story about seeing a group of Jewish activists at a segregated movie theater in Delaware. “You can’t talk about the women’s movement without talking about Betty Friedan” …
“I believe what affects the movements in America, what affects our attitudes in America are as much the culture and the arts as anything else,” he said. That’s why he spoke out on gay marriage “apparently a little ahead of time.”
“It wasn’t anything we legislatively did. It was ‘Will and Grace,’ it was the social media. Literally. That’s what changed peoples’ attitudes. That’s why I was so certain that the vast majority of people would embrace and rapidly embrace” gay marriage, Biden said.
“Think behind of all that, I bet you 85 percent of those changes, whether it’s in Hollywood or social media are a consequence of Jewish leaders in the industry. The influence is immense, the influence is immense. And, I might add, it is all to the good.”
>implying homos want kids
>implying they can afford surrogates
>in fact muslims are very tolerant with trans people
I thought we were past this.
Religion doesn't like us. We already have one group demonizing and attacking our existence, we don't need a second one at our doorstep.
>tfw Islam and Christians hate each other
>find common ground in their hatred of homosexuality and lgbt as a whole
>band together to destroy our rights
This is just one horror scenario.
So what you're saying is that even in a western world where Christianity has mostly been de-fanged, they're still bad?
So why the fuck do you want to import a religion that hates us even more and hasn't been de-fanged?
If the low level we have now is bad why the fuck are you okay with importing worse? Just because there aren't very many?
Not really, senpai. I'm Slavic, so it's not like they want to go to my country. And even if they were forced to go there by the EU - and this is entirely possible - we will just gang up on them with my friends and kick the shit out of them 'cause that's how we roll. And the police? The police is on our side, they won't even attempt to catch us. We're way too racist to let them live among us comfortably and every little incident they cause - even beating of some random tranny locals would hurt without hesitation, too - will be used as an excuse to lynch them.
I'm worried about them in general, not just for myself. I live in Britain and everyone here saying "there's 1 for every 5000" doesn't get the point. They don't intergrate, they bunch into areas so they are the majority. Just look at Birmingham or London. You don't catch immigrants moving to Cumbria and shooting pheasents with flat caps on, they much prefer beating their wives, racing their cars and accidentally running people over all time, and being violent towards people they don't like.
Gotta say /lgbt/, i'm disappointed. This is my first time using this board and based on this thread it looks like this board is infested with hypocritical Tumblrinas who cried racist the second i showed some worrying survey results and asked some reasonable questions.
>you really think they come to your faggoty board?
There is a reason why polgbt exists.
fear of punishment does not make you tolerant.
it just makes you a closeted bigot.
bury your head in the sand all you like, birds of a feather flock together and before you know it, they've ghettoised into majority muslim areas where for an openly gay or unpassing trans person to walk through, would be putting their lives at risk.
As another anon said, it's 1 migrant in 5000 already established people, some of them can be very homophobic/transphobic.
I firmly believe that if they integrate well, they will become gradually more tolerant. If they don't, then we will have to "fight" them the same way we deal with old annoying Christians fundamentalists, by ignoring them and ridiculing them
I don't think they need to constantly apologise for everything a small minority does
I don't want to tell everyone that being gay is not like pic related, for example (though I have nothing against this way of being gay, I just find it gross and attention-whoring)
>urge to post crappy /polgbt/ fanart rising
>Speaking against homophobia and transphobia in their communities
How did that come off as apologizing? I don't want apologies just for them to try to discourage intolerant behavior among their families and friends
I'm actually quite worried that due to the increased influence of Muslim beliefs in Europe. I saw someone the other day claiming that arranged marriages and pedophilia aren't bad things and people were agreeing with them. I mean nothing they said got to muder levels but it's still messed up to me.
I think they simply don't have the courage to speak and get into fights with their loved ones. I don't think I can blame them.
I have tried to get my friends to stop saying faggot every other word, but that didn't serve any purposes, I would imagine they feel the same way - but with much greater risks.
So a father who is the only sustent of his family is a coward for not wanting to die for a war that he probably doesn't care?
Stop romanticism the war, there is no such thing as honor and glory in fighting a lost war