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>tfw mado wont kiss you in your sleep tonight
post what you're listening to!
no. I literally didn't. you're thinking of another trip.
Voice practice, being dizzy, probably sleep or something afterwards because Im getting lonely and bored. How about you?
Tfw all i can do rn is play with this or play smashbros for umpteenth time
>when you video call a cutie till she takes a nap
>when she's just as cute drifting off to sleep
>tfw ugly af when i sleep
Sometimes i even drool desu, I sleep like a brick. It was kinda cute when kiwi fell asleep on me though. Id just play a game for her and she would pass out and snooze so softly
Well I only have .5g cause the shop changed up their specials for valentines day for no real reason. Going back for more either tomorrow or sunday when the prices drop again. IDK if motivated enough for tomorrow but probs would be better selection.
Nice, I am a believer that removing resonance is a lot more key than just pitch work. Maybe that can help. I'm sure you're doing great and can help somoetime if you want ^^
>tfw this happens at the highest dose, and it was the only one that worked for you.
fuck it. it somehow replaces depressive eating with depressive starvation for me so i'm okay with being sad now.
Also yeah Tera is alright, have a friend I've been having a lot of fun playing it with but also thorowing in some bf4 and league to kill the monotony.
I could attempt to go out this weekend but idk. One of the guys I have talked to some is way older than I thought but he's pretty cute. Keeps wanting me to go with him to his house, makes me worried I'm gonna get raped if I do.
Okay sounds good! Just let me know! I'm just trying warframe for a few with my friend o.O
Awoo!! just smoked a joint and I have the roach.
>tfw end up talking to a boy about girls
its an abstract transbian kind of feel
Here's my battlelog. I'm not great but I just picked it up a week ago. Still learning some of the 'don't do this' things compared to bf3.
And yeah I feel like I'll be playing a lot but it's very much 'generic mmo game'.
As for the guy, yeah idk, he's cute and smart, drives a BMW, the reason he keeps using as an excuse to go to his house is he wants me to help him pack things or something? He said he'd pay money.. Idk. I think there's a lot of implications there.
Nothing ground breaking about it but it gud game. The balance is pretty broken and noobe start at a pretty big disadvantage so it gets better.
Bring a friend? Don't go kek?
On a happier note my pitch seems to have improved since last time and I think I'm getting better at controlling my resonance. My throat feels strained and tired though, I'm gonna have to build that up.
Yeah not a lot huge changes just more collapsing stuff and like, new maps, how unlocks are done compared to before and yeah, noobie having no weapons sucks. Aside from that though pretty good game managed to snag premium for 20$. But yeah I think you should be able to add me from that link right?
>tfw it will always be x to disgust when they look at you
>make eye contact with someone on accident
>we both look away right away
I hope so. I tried listening to a few recordings and my throat is so bad right now that my voice sounded atrocious. Not that it's any better when I'm at my peak right now.
>tfw you have an orgasm from just breast stimulation
Who else here can do this?
>I have known I had gender dysphoria for 10 years and I still haven't done anything about it
Wandering son, it's about living with GID. I haven't read a manga since it hurts too much
Wolves was pretty fucking sweet.
>Think transsexuals are sick, SRS is disgusting, and hormone therapy is a joke
>Have a hard time not laughing at trannies trying to act like girls while clearly being men
>Have been suffering heavily from gender dysphoria ever since I was a kid and want to die every time I see my 6'5" masculine body in the mirror.
>tomorrow will be another day of living in this body
>you're going to be nothing but a big doofy shemale for life
>this is your whole life
>FFS is a false promise that you'll ever see a girl in the mirror
>FFS will be a wakeup call when you see just how little it helps, and you have nothing left to blame it on
>you'll only be that much more stuck with being a half and half freak show.
When I die I want my ashes poured down the sink
tfw 2 cuties making out on ur bed but u just wanna do cool tricks on ur skateboard
i will i promise ok
Would transitioning be easier if I just stay boyish? I feel like it would tax my social life less if I didn't grow my hair out and start wearing skirts and shit in public. It'd definitely weird my friends out.
I love tomboys, so this isn't really a problem for me. I'm just thinking that this summer I probably won't be able to stealth mode anymore. I had a growth spurt in my chest this winter, and they clearly show under t-shirts. Might be time to come out.
I can pass pretty well if I go full girlmode, I think, but not with short hair and dude clothes.
Is Shinji ok?
I saw a girl in the mirror today. It's so rare that it happens, maybe one day per 1-2 months. I know the feeling is fleeting, but when it happens, I want to cry tears of joy.
Maybe there is hope that I can be fixed. Maybe there is hope that I can finally be comfortable in my own skin. Transition was worth it.
Maybe if he stopped tweeting nonsense and finished the fucking album.
There is so little character and thought behind anything in that comic that the idea of tokenism is absurd. That it seems arbitrary and poorly presented is a result of everything in the comic being pisspoor.
Kanye west is a huge faggot but I'm glad I'm glad he's treating the greatest medium with some dignity, it never happens within the zionist jewish hollywood and music industry of america, and it'll give it more legitimacy.
wow, havent really think about it. I will probably take as much pills as I found and then jump from the window (4th floor). I hope thats enough.
I have been a bit busy collecting money, still gotta make a good suicide letter.
I'm confused, was that meant for that post? I'm like falling asleep right now but any time is best time for head rubs.
don't live for anyone but yourself
keep improving yourself every day until there's nothing left for them to laugh at
find someone special that will see you for you and build you up when you're feeling down
you can do it anon i believe
>keep improving yourself every day until there's nothing left for them to laugh at
>I can never do this
time for the rope I guess, sure enough spiro will do the job too
rope your arms around me.
not for you. you can't give me what i desire.
Can anyone refer me to a good packing list for SRS in Thailand with Suporn?
I know loose panties, and loose dress/skirt. But like do I need to bring lube, pads, diaper mats or anything surgery related?
I'm staying for 30 days
Or where/what kind of search query should I look for? Thanks.
>tfw you've been shown just enough affection to be addicted to it, but not enough to satisfy any cravings.
>tfw dream about being happy with someone else almost every night
>tfw it's like going through a breakup every time I wake up.
cooking class with gf tomorrow morning, followed by massages, then some board gaming. Sunday, going to dead pool, hotel in San Fran, fancy restaurants, and then staying in the city and shopping Monday.
>tfw dont live close enough to be your gf and give you the affection you want
I had a dream the other night that I became a cis girl by magic but the dysphoria didn't go away and just swapped sides so I became ftm in the dream and the my body went on autopilot doing guy stuff and I was trying to tell myself that this was all wrong but my body wasn't listening to myself
I definitely don't see any reason for a limit. If 51+ guys were willing to gangbang me I think I'd be too flattered and horny to even properly grasp what's happening.
Just sit down in a relaxing position and let them line up to blow their loads on you
Nevermind, I definitely want this.
>be really depressed
>trans internet friends tells me if i ever need to talk i can talk to her
>tell her im really depressed and im even thinking on suicide
>she starts talking about her problems
is every trans like that? Its not the first time this happens to me.
I always listen to everybody and try to help, and I rarely ask for help because this always happens.
I think iktf, like they try to relate to your situation by sharing their own personal struggle. But then end up monopolizing the conversation.
I'm happy to listen on Skype if you are comfortable posting
Na, you really don't, trust me I've been there it fucks up your head, and makes you feel like a cumrag.
Just find a sweet guy that cares about and you can treat as partners, not you as his sex slave. You'll find the right guy in time, there's so many fish in the sea, yknow?
alright, guess I'm going to bed.
>tfw crying myself to sleep every night because the only people that have ever held my hand have broken my heart and nobody will ever just hold me and make me feel like I can actually connect with another human being feel something other than pain
Maybe I wanna feel like a cumrag :3
But seriously, I wanna find a sweet person to have a relationship with who will accept me being trans and will tolerate my dysphoria/depression
>tfw watching a movie with a qt for valentines day
>mfw snuggles on her birthday soon
i mean even though you're like a 2/10 chubby dude with long hair you're still using that im trans buzzword to get attention so its working for you
its just annoying because you give people who are actually on hrt and putting effort into being passable a bad name
>form a real relationship with someone from 4chan just isn't gonna happen
>tfw learned that lesson the hard way
Never date 4chan "celebrities", I see their face posted almost every day.
>its just annoying because you give people who are actually on hrt and putting effort into being passable a bad name
There's plenty of reasons to not be on HRT, calm down. Nobody is invalidating your struggle.
Solid plan. Mix some food into the day sounds great.
Me too, and amassing another one.
B-but Amy.....I've always loved you....
;n; you're not
I'll have a drink for you pham.
>tfw you have a longterm supportive pan gf from years before transitioning but since have turned almost totally straight ;___;
I would get hrt then job, probably easier to find work if you're not as worried about as much transition stuff. There are alot of cost cutting measures you can take, and if you're willing to and mildly attractive gay porn offers are pretty easy to come by. If you don't wanna be filed gay escort work is all an option. It's not the prettiest thing but everyone does what they have to do to get where they want to be. It's not too difficult to do escort work while leading a normal ish life.
no there's really not a lot of good reasons at the end of the day, sorry
the pills are relatively cheap and easy to get a hold of, most of the people who arent on it for a long time but arent in third world countries or terrible family situations are saying that they're trans to get attention/chase or are being extremely lazy about it
just. order. the. pills.
this isnt that hard.
my reason is self hatred and guaranteed hondom and the simple fact that basically no trans person I have met is actually happier after transition so I may as well just stay an unhappy man instead of being a still unhappy monster
try it for 6 months to a year, if you hate it then detransition, none of the effects are permanent besides breasts somewhat, plus im sure you're not as bad as you're thinking you are
pills aren't that expensive, if you're spending money on games or food or whatever else that could have been going to hrt
literally just walk into a bank and get an account on monday, they'll give you a card
like i said, third world or family situation but the reality is most people here that arent transitioning inflate their reasons to not transition like >>5717770 and wind up not doing it when they obviously want to and should, and dont live in a concentration camp that prevents them from transitioning like you seem to think they do
How else can you afford to buy cute clothes?
Literally so much happier after transitioning, lmao. Wtf. Never met a trans person happier post transition??? Transitioning was the best thing I ever did in my life. I don't even view it as a choice, it's just like breathing. I can't even imagine living not transitioned. Dude, like transition, life is 10000000000 times better on the other side, ya ofc you lose male privilege and shit might happen to you, get raped, etc. But EVEN with all of that! It's stillll wayy better Living transitioned like I wish I could express to you this. Please choose happiness, transition 2016.
That anon isn't very smart, fails to realize that being mentally unable to do something is a very real reason to be unable to do something.
After all we're talking about a very mental condition here.
>you lose male privilege and shit might happen to you, get raped, etc.
but thats just not true? a lot of people detransition and gain the ability to cum again after a few months
plus if you're REALLY that concerned about being a man and marrying a woman and having a kid one day then just freeze sperm
i mean you can make it a meme all you want but just take hormones anyways is the truth
its literally try it and see if you like it
>complain every day about how you have dysphoria
>tell you to do the thing that will fix that dysphoria
>wahh i cant
you make absolutely no sense
You can dress around your body shape and still look cute
>a lot of people detransition and gain the ability to cum again after a few months
It's 100% a lot of people do it. :^)
The just freeze sperm maymay is tired, that shit is expensive. Way to expensive to hold on for the possibility that you might want to start a family. It's not the same as just being fertile.
Whatever, I just don't see any point in being mopey and sad all the time, fuck that. If you're going to go through a bunch of shit to be where you wanna be, at least do yourself the favor of being happy when you get there. What else is the point in living, honestly.
If you think transitioning isn't going to make you happier why the fuck would so many people transition. Just don't view transition as some panacea. You're removing a crutch not growing wings.
>plus im sure you're not as bad as you're thinking you are
>reality is most people here that arent transitioning inflate their reasons to not transition
had a trangirl spend a good hour telling me how shit her life is and that she looks like a man but proceeds to tell me I should do it too because it'll make me happier. they weren't even the only one
I will bite your ass
I remember when I had that delusion too
>you make absolutely no sense
Wow, you're right. How could a condition that causes you to doubt yourself, hate yourself, and have anxiety about everything you do ever POSSIBLY give cause you to doubt yourself, hate yourself, and have anxiety about everything you do.
It took me years to overcome an entire life of repression and social stigma before I could begin my transition.
For the record, you only make it worse for them by being a bitch about it and saying somebody "Isn't TRUTRANS" because they're too scared to throw away their chance at a normal life for the hope that they come out of the transition something other than a monster. Further sows that self-doubt.
baby, please. first you wanna hug me, now you wanna eat my ass? i don't think tasting a hon is good for you. :')
Honestly, transition isn't as hard as people think it is. At least, it's a whole lot easier than it was in the XXth century. And I know, I tried back then.
Anyway, I can't say it made me happy, melancholic depression make it so I'll never directly know what happy means, but it's made my life a whole lot easier. I don't have a single regret about it, and I'm the type who's swamped in regret otherwise...
And it gets real good once you can actually start hacking gender. I used to do that when I was young, and I can do it again now. Just yesterday, went out wearing a three piece suit with a tie, patent leather derbies, outrageous red nails and lips and smoky eyes. Plus chunky geometric jewelry. It's deeply amusing to have people call you a dirty dyke. Infinitely more validating than just "madam".
>ooooookay there anon
Stop trying so hard. What is your issue? If I'm going to repress my dysphoria and live my life as a man, there's no reason to not marry a woman and start a family.
Even if I transitioned I'd still be attracted to women.
I have a couple jobs now. But I'm a student so only one conventional job/internship, which is like management consulting. I paid for my most of my transition stuff early on by doing escort work as a gay guy.
it's like you're trying to imply hormones make you look completely different at the 3rd year mark
>At least, it's a whole lot easier than it was in the XXth century. And I know, I tried back then.
>Just yesterday, went out wearing a three piece suit with a tie, patent leather derbies, outrageous red nails and lips and smoky eyes. Plus chunky geometric jewelry.
See anon? Just transition. You won't become a hon at all.
so you're sad you dont look good crossdressing? sorry you're manly, but dont claim to be trans just because you've got a crossdressing fetish and have confused that sadness with dysphoria
im a transbian myself so thats not what i was implying at all
if you want to use your dick so badly you need to cum, want to live as a man, have no plans to transition, you're a man with a crossdressing fetish claiming to be trans to either chase or get attention and need to >>5717830
the only boy who was ever fine to be here was StraightWhiteGuy, every other one is fucking trash
the point is there are a variety of people that fall under the trans umbrella
most here don't even present as fem,
and just guymode mtfs that are most likely not going to make it to fulltime
Because I want to really badly, but I need to convince myself it's not going to be the biggest mistake of my life. Undoing a decade of repression and excuses takes time, at least it does for me. If it was easy for you that's great, but I don't see how that makes it any different for me.
Believe it or not, Talking to trans women, posting amongst them, learning about what transsexual life is like from the people here, all of it, has helped me so much. I'm more comfortable with the fact that I have gender dysphoria than ever before, and much closer to fully accepting it.
Doing 6 months of HRT in 2016 is my goal now. But I'd never be at this piont if I just continued staying on the outside, repressing, and only being exposed to transexuals through other boards whining about "muh suicide rates" and Caitlyn Jenner.
shes been on hormones for a long time, if you think anyone can cum after that you're silly
plus how is yume relevant to what we were talking about at all? she transitioned and you didnt, you're living as a man who's calling themselves trans as part of a crossdressing fetish, if you were actually in transition we wouldnt even be in this discussion
pretty much this
Okay, then. =D if you ever want to add me on Skype to talk about transition stuff or life in general my contact info is on zeemaps, south Korea.
I just didn't follow that it might be something you want to do in the future or could conceive of doing. I really hope you're able to muster the courage to start hrt. I think it'll really improve your quality of life.
>I just didn't follow that it might be something you want to do in the future or could conceive of doing.
Seems most of the people here missed that point when this started with people nagging Kuppy. Nobody here doesn't want to transition, but a lot of us are scared and another anon is scared enough that she'd be willing to repress it forever.
I think every pre-transition poster here is just trying to muster up the courage and convince themselves to do it.
I don't have anyone to talk to about this in real life, so /mtfg/ is my outlet for that. No Skype though, but thanks for the offer.
REMINDER THAT IF YOU'RE IN "REPRESSION" HRT IS LITERALLY EXTREMELY EASY TO GET AND IF YOU HAVEN'T BECAUSE YOU WANT TO BE FERTILE YOU'RE MOST LIKELY A FAILED TRAP WHO'S NOT ACTUALLY TRANS AND NEED TO MIGRATE TO >>5713883
>implying I want to associate with femboys or twinks
they are actually the worst faggots on earth
I think the general trans definition even includes cds under it's umbrella
>tell gf I worked out and got groceries
>tell her squirtle got more strength and I have hyperballs again thanks to it
>her face when
>tfw I actually worked out and got groceries irl too
my whole upper body is sore now, wat do ?
guess i have to legally change my name to 'thread' to escape the torture of living.
good morning, faggotron. seems i'm unfortunate enough to be 'graced' by your presence.
nice trips you cheeky sod, you know young son you're playing a mugs game. I'll do you in sunshine
what the hell are you gonna do about it? fight me, kid. i'd win.
you fuckin want some sunshine? you say one more word you sad twat and I'll smack ya, you virgin