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If this is what a hon looks like, I'm proud to be a hon...
>not posting in both threads at once
who /physics/ here
Just some girl with nice abs and daddy issues.
What's been going on mtfg?
Do you even hon
Well I mean HRT has made it harder to control my emotions but also part of it is that it's becoming increasingly apparent as time goes on how masculine I still look, and because of the emotional thing it's become a lot harder to handle other stuff in my life than it was before, like how I don't have any friends and I'm pretty sure hrt is making it harder to make and keep them, plus eventually I'll have to deal with shitty unaccepting family and all the embarrassment of still looking masculine/not passing
I just feel like the only forseeable options in my future are detransition or death
>i must be individual
>i need attention
>i'm not like the other girls
>i stand out
>i shaved off my hair, will you notice me daddy
>you said i couldn't daddy so i did
>why don't you love me daddy
That's rough. I've definitely had cycles since starting on HRT where I've gotten very distressed by my masculine features and feeling like it's all hopeless, even though at other times I'm very happy to at least have the effects that I have gotten and think it might not turn out so bad. I totally get what you're talking about with the embarrassment of still looking masculine / not passing, too, it's not fun.
How do you feel that HRT is making it harder to make and keep friends?
I am not in the habit of explaining myself. She just fits the bill.
crossing the threads, how about you?
Not really. This is a woman that really fits the Bill.
>How do you feel that HRT is making it harder to make and keep friends?
Like I'm pretty sure people at my school just think I look weird now and as with people I already know I feel like a lot are pushed away by my emotional volatility and general negativity and lack of confidence I guess
I just don't really know what to do, I can't really see my situation improving any time soon and I'm never happy anymore and can't imagine that I'll ever really be happy again if things go on like this
>tfw awful at console games and using a gamepad
T R U T R A N S
How did you get him out of the power armor and retarded swimcap?
He's hansom as fuck.
Do you think that the HRT has helped with some of the dysphoria you felt before starting, putting aside increased concerns about appearance and passing? Made it worse? If you were to stop, would you be okay trying to be a boy again, or would you still try to transition but without the hornomes, or something in between?
then stay up a night so you can reset your sleep schedule tomorrow
or if you're too old to do that any more like I am then try doing that, give up at 8 or 10 in the morning, take a nap, and then you can go to bed at a more normal time
i want the geck already.
>tfw they still haven't released it
don't talk shit about one of the few characters i liked in that one okay.
apparently not if im just wearing a tshirt and jeans
>tfw running PN and JS at the same time
I have whole bunch of mods that feed into my fetish for difficulty, survivalism, and "realism"
i honestly have no clue how modders are gonna get around the bs voiced protag. dumbest thing ever.
12 nights in bangkok and my feet are peeling.
>fallout 4's story
>let's have your dog sniff a dead trail from years ago
>oh look your dog just showed up how convenient
>let's harvest a dead brain and take it to a place people can re-live their memories at, that hasn't been mentioned before
>knockoff Harrison Ford
It's so bad I don't know how they approved it
its just one person
if everyone called you sir then you wouldnt pass, but if its or two times that doesnt mean much, because you still pass, overall
And we both know that that doesnt happen to you bc otherwise you wouldnt be doing full time so well
I want to penetrate a transsexual in deep his anus with his legs up in the air and pretend he is a real woman as he is gazing deeply into my eyes.
I can't help it, the air conditioner did it.
Or the humidity.
i dont know, i feel like the old guy was ignorant and bitter enough to call maddie out, where as younger people are more accepting of these things. i dont think maddie passes either, oh well
Yeah, really. I know people say mods can save Bethesda games, and I usually agree, but 4's story is too bad to really be worth playing it again. In New Vegas I can at least do different things, or if I don't want to follow the MSQ I can do something different with my character. In 4 they tried to change Fallout's formula too much to be more like the Witcher or Mass Effect in terms of roleplaying. You are THEIR character living out THEIR story. It's not your own anymore.
does anyone have experience with chastity cages specifically this http://www.amazon.com/Utimi-Silica-Chastity-Device-Special/dp/B00MBDZLAI/ref=pd_sim_121_1?ie=UTF8&dpID=41xd%2BCiBKIL&dpSrc=sims&preST=_AC_UL160_SR160%2C160_&refRID=15EH3P27MM0KRW0WYKCM the reviews say its cheap and too small should i spring for a more expensive one?
It doesn't matter what you call it, at the end of the day it's a penis or the ultimate essence of masculinity.
Cis women who use strap ons are fundamentally different, they are not using their own assigned body part and it doesn't detract from their true identity.
But I like cock.
>that high arch
>those perfectly curved toes
i want these soles in my life
there are transgirls that don't have as much dyaphoria with their dicks, enough so that they wouldnt have a heart attack and die using it
it's a massive organ but it still causes pleasure when stimulated, so I guess if you dont have much dysphoria there I could see why one would use it, even if its a masculine sex act.
>forgot to take my skittles this morning
>decide "fuck it, why not" and take my whole daily doses of everything tonight, including my anti-anxiety medicine
This is going to be the calmest explosively emotional night ever
My family, doctors, and modern science disagree. I don't have to change it, I just have to change my body. If I didn't, there would be a 9mm hole in my head :-)
Truuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuump. Lnts not talk politics tho.
Because then u can't see my body. My webcam is garbage and taking lewds with my phone is hard
>talk to other mtf
>they tell me if they wouldnt be able to transition they would had killed themselves
>tell them that I wasnt able to transition
>"oh, im sorry"
>they never talk to me again or they assumed im doing alright and vent to me all their problems
who guess how many times this has happend
Topkek, you have the body of a chubby male loser and you're calling yourself female? Your family and your doctors are out for your best interest, which means they don't want you to shoot yourself. They do this by not denying of hormones or preferred pronouns, could you imagine the amount of guilt they would have to live through if they were responsible for someone's suicide? It's a matter of self-interest after all. Modern science says there is something wrong with your brain for you to be thinking you are female when you are born male. Your body is what ultimately comprises of your determined sex, everything else is a dysfunction of your head.
- hon: buzzword for an unpassing tranny, usually used for shitflinging, originally meant to describe extremely late transitioniers (men in their fourties or fifties when they started)
- rainbow striped thigh highs
pizza and pizza parties
--both of which are considered part of the tranny starter pack
-the anime cock hat
I'm not very well versed in memes, so if you need a more in depth answer ask yume, the meme expert
Move to Portland with me kuppy
Yes I was actually born in '39. My curls are natural doe
Hey there cutie
>mfw i am 5'10" 150
>modern science says I have a grylls brain in a boys body. There is nothing wrong with that (it is a condition not a disorder). I don't have any dysfunctions in my head (yet).
I am a girl anon
Was a good movie and worth seeing.
I hate that I am going to sound like the sjw's who attacked hacks for the fat girl not being fat enough, but the fact that the trans girl whose sole characteristic is being trans looks EXACTLY like a girl despite clearly not having the resources to get FFS or laser is just spitting in the face of trans people. It's tokenism at best and blatant pandering at worst.
holy shit your fat
also when are you going to buy panties and show us your bulge?
what music do you listen to?
im listening to the Life is strange soundtrack because it was the first thing I found on my PC, as soon as it finish Im listening Blackstar by Bowie.
Why are you showing off your male ass while imagining you are female? You have a gut fold like a chubby loser male. More importantly, that's a very masculine body.
>modern science says I have a grylls brain in a boys body.
Hence, there is something wrong with your brain.
>There is nothing wrong with that (it is a condition not a disorder).
Inherently, there is something wrong with it. By calling it a condition, you admit it's in a defective state which is not considered healthy. By the way, if there wasn't anything wrong with it, your psyche and body would be in coordination.
>I don't have any dysfunctions in my head (yet).
You should look at what modern science says about your brain.
>Still guy mode at work with male nametag and everything
>Some guy keeps hitting on me last night and using female pronouns
It's finally happening.
If I ever go to portland, say I want to kill myself but not before enjoying the last few days. Do you mind if I came over and we fuck in the morning all the day to sunset before I kill myself?
thats a big part of why I stopped reading qc
her entire character has no conflicts whatsoever, marten didnt even bat an eyelash at her admitting shes trans, and no one so much as suspects that shes anything but cis, no problems arise for her from being trans, and she has the self confidence of a cis girl
jacques is afraid to do anything that could potentially upset tumblr after the fat thing and its awful
cause their lives are empty and they so they have to fill the void with something
Yeah, used to be 135 before (pic related) hormones but I have been trying hard over the past year to gain weight so I can have fat in a female pattern. So. Many. Stretch. Marks. I am heavier than I have ever been.
Idk i am scared to go shopping or get my brows done ir get glasses clothes. I don't think I pass well enough. Transition limbo.
Most things except country
Posted what? A reply? Here, I'll post it again too. It's how this works, you must be new to communicating to people from being locked up inside all day, hiding your shameful tranny self away from the rest of society.
Did someone say....
Life is strange?
Cause Kate Marsh would approve!
Kate Marsh has been the go to picture for when I'm feeling all country and traditional is all.
Hands down 10000% best VN of all time is Kana Imouto.
You play it once and you'll understand.
>tfw you'll never have a best friend just like claire
I'm already a lot like max desu
>it's just cyba shitposting countless selfies again
Guys don't have tits or ass.
Look up the definition of condition. Stop trying to fight science. Vaccines are good, pollution is bad, transition is helpful
Plz that sounds relaxing
I'm yours forever kuppy
Stop being mean
I am so happy for you :-):-)
She better swallow
I don't mind at all. Can I defile your remains after as well?
He called me fat sooo
That was me before hormones and I was planning on killing myself at the time. No fucks were given.
That's a man who has gone missing
Love you too:-)
Seriously though I was fit as fuck at this time.
I want to make sex with a cute boy and then love him and have him love me until we are 90+ and still fucking like rabbits because medical science keeps us in perfect health and allowed me to give birth at 70
>when you're reading manga and the website goes down
I must crush something
I wanted to say something on here, but I can't remember what it was.
Oh, yeah! I remember now!
>tfw haven't started hrt and too scared to self med
>hang out with best friend and a couple other mutual friends during the day
>do some shopping for valentines day
>get back to their place
>talking about plans for later
>best friend mentions something about his gf coming over later
>suddenly realize I have chores to do and my estradiol shot to take
>go home do stuff
>don't wanna go back bc of best friends gf
>she's really nice but I feel inadequate around her
>go back anyway
>friends playing boardgame
>one friend I didn't know
>some black chick
>start a new board game "say anything"
>best friend says it's basically cards against humanity but you make your own cards
>interpret this to mean "be as offensive as possible"
>someone asks the question "what do animals do in the zoo after the humans leave?"
>put down "organize BLM protests"
>offend everyone and alienate black chick
>best friend playfully teasing me the entire game
>during the entire game best friend is kissing his gf
>touching her etc
>end of the night
>say goodbye to him
>we hug for a long time and make plans to get dinner next week
fuck, I don't think I could've fucked today up any more than I did
also why are boys so confusing ;-;
I thought I was gonna have a nice dinner with my friend but that got dropped for boardgames, so I spent the early part of the day getting ready, doing my eyebrows, making sure my hair looked good, picking out a nice outfit etc and then end up looking like an overdressed loser playing stupid boardgames
>Guys don't have tits or ass.
You have tits becase you take estrogen, which your body lacks because you are male. You don't have an ass by the way.
>Look up the definition of condition.
See pic related.
>Stop trying to fight science.
Who is fighting science? First you said modern science disagrees there is something wrong with your brain, when in fact it does. Then you say I'm trying to fight it? Where do you even stand?
>Vaccines are good, pollution is bad, transition is helpful
These are just randomly strung together things which doesn't prove anything you are saying.
Don't have any yet:-/
I'll post when I get them tho
More like I got me^_^
Don't be scared! Here's all you need to know:
100mg of spironolactone down the gullet
2mg of estradiol dissolve under tongue
Every 12 hours and you will be a qt3.14 gryll in a year
That's not senpai
>Can I defile your remains after as well?
Sure, but not before i give you a long french kiss before you hand me the gun.
whoa there friendo, it looks like you've made a mistake with your post. seems you've posted a picture of a woman there to represent your emotional state, yet you're not on HRT and aren't in enough distress about things to do anything to alleviate that. please, as a kindly piece of advice, when using a reaction image next time, use an appropriate picture. of a man.
hope i helped, buddy!
> it's basically cards against humanity but you make your own cards
I dont think your friends understand cards against humanity very well
also boys are weird and they dont care about looking nice unless its to impress a girl they're into
I'm sure they would have because it's your personal friendship. That's not the problem here. You alienated and offended a guest. I'm sure your friend was thinking you should've just shut the fuck up while he was kissing his gf.
Protip: don't offend people who you just meet
well he complimented me on how I looked, so that was nice. The bummer was that we know each other really well, so when I started feeling really shitty because he was making out with his gf he'd like ask me what's up, if everything was ok. reeally awk but I just said the injection site can be a bit sore afterwards
bitch no. don't play offensive card games if you don't want to get offended. I'm not going to lose the game just because I'm afraid of offending someone, because that's literally the point of the game
I thought it was pretty funny too, and others who didn't really know her made bbc and fried chicken jokes, so it's not like I was the only person going for offensiveness
You can't bring me down anon. I hope you can find happiness.
You don't need glasses 2b qt kupps
"i am right "
Is you? How are you so hairless?
Can we make America great again?
I wish you would stay up with us
As far as I can tell
Kuppsy r u ok with this
That's the idea
Happness! Glitter! Sparkles! Joy!
>Tfw had my eyes tested last week and needed to get glasses finally and they are adorable
I've been waiting 10 years for this
>someone asks the question "what do animals do in the zoo after the humans leave?"
>put down "organize BLM protests
This literally had nothing to do with black people until you made it about them. And AGAIN this isn't the problem. You did it when there was a black person you were meeting for the first time.
PS. Who the fuck plays board games to socialize? Is this a white people thing?
I know that feel.
Are mtfs supposed to be hairy? I thought being hairless was the norm?
I'm just trying to figure out exactly what the issue is, and what you're saying should be done with it.
What exactly are you getting at here? Are you compassionately worried transition goes against their best interest? Just passing by and saying you don't like it?
Why not lay out a plan for remedying this situation, you seem to have an opinion, you're just having trouble laying it out clearly.
Is it just that you want them to feel bad? Does that accomplish your goals in coming here?
>monkeys live in the zoo
>black people are very reminiscent of monkeys
I wouldn't have had a problem if she'd made a joke about my heritage because that's literally the point of the sodding game.
Austrians and English people have a lot of material to work with too. I don't think it's fair to censor your speech based on who you are with, especially in the context of a game that revolves around being offensive
yeah gotta keep that in mind
I got round tortoise shell ones because I am hipster trash, I also kinda want these though.
We agreed it would be for the best if we split.
Saint Pepsi is the best.
Plz don't say coffin
Congrats! Which ones are u getting?
Damn girl u r qt. Post moar plox
He's trying to fight science. His cause is hopeless.
Woo-hoo! Do you know who?
Yes definitely post pics
Every one I can. Zero I was very good at hiding it
Where does the wall go?
I hope she doesn't but hope you feel better anon.
>a tall boy!
I wish I had a tall boy or even just a boy but its not possible
Her plan seems to be to transition.
Everyone in this thread would probably agree that's a good plan.
Medical literature supports that plan.
There are doctors that will help carry out that plan.
And there's you. I'm asking questions to determine where you're coming from and it just seems like you're coming from nowhere. You're refusing to engage in a debate from me. You're refusing to even describe what your stance is, other than that the whole thing gets you riled up emotionally. You're just being a baby.
Nobody cares that you're upset by transition. You don't even have goals in coming here, you're just acting emotional and confused by something you can't understand.
>have you talked to him about how that makes you feel?
no, I don't want to risk throwing away the friendship we have for that.
if I say it makes me uncomfortable, he'll know why because there's only one reason and that's that I have a crush
and a friendship with a one sided crush where both parties know about it never lasts long, so I'll just take the pain because it's worth it to have a friend as amazing as him
GIRL YOUR EYEBROWS
little work big benefit
As much as I got frustrated with her in CSGO, that had nothing to do with our split.
Frustrated by her outclassing you?
No. I got pretty tired of her only strat being p90 rush and thus being limited to maps where that's all she could do. She also doesn't seem to understand eco and such yet. Sorry kiwi bae but I will shit on you for this in public~
at least i don't awp at close range through scope
Tec-9 rush is superior anyways.
P90 rush is a legitimate strategy if you have a fuck ton of practice controlling it's recoil and you have the game sense of a eagle+. I would top frag eagle games with just P90 and people would start screaming at me during half and when the game was over
>Usually she bought a deag and missed every shot
that's not true i'm very skilled with a deagle stop bullying me!
>Grace is an AWPfag
>Her plan seems to be to transition.
Wherever did you get this revelation? Very insightful.
>Everyone in this thread would probably agree that's a good plan.
You understand gender identity isn't about democracy right?
>Medical literature supports that plan.
Medical literature also supports the fact there is something dysfunctional in your brain as a tranny.
>There are doctors that will help carry out that plan.
Doctors, as I mentioned already, are out for self-interest. To the best of my knowledge, it's not the doctor who has the ultimate say in transition, it's the therapist. The therapist's role is to help you feel better and often times to prevent suicide.
>And there's you. I'm asking questions to determine where you're coming from and it just seems like you're coming from nowhere. You're refusing to engage in a debate from me. You're refusing to even describe what your stance is, other than that the whole thing gets you riled up emotionally. You're just being a baby.
It looks to me you are far more upset than I am as
>you're coming from nowhere
>the whole thing gets you riled up emotionally.
>You're just being a baby.
I already said these things you are wanting to hear from me. If you have good hand to eye coordination, use the trail of conversation and read what I said.
>Nobody cares that you're upset by transition.
You're speaking for everyone now? Do you have schizophrenia?
>You don't even have goals in coming here, you're just acting emotional and confused by something you can't understand.
Sounds funny coming from an emotional gender identity confused individual.
Am I just getting old? What the fuck are you talking?
So was yume and Vektroid in a sexual relationship?
i was always top of the scoreboard so i don't know what you're talking about
we played how many games together and i always had the most kills, that's what matters isn't it? stop bullying me seriously i'm not enjoying it
anons like you are the reason this general gets so toxic
you could tell him that you just feel lonely and want a boyfriend, but thats true too
honestly thats why I never confessed my feelings to a good friend I've had since high school
I dont actually really want a relationship with him at this point in my life because of how much I love my girlfriend and how happy I am with my relationships, but I still feel like I need to get it out there
But I dont want to mess that up with him either, so I understood you several months ago, and I kind of understand you now.
I'm not upset that you can't construct an argument, in fact it makes what I'm doing a lot easier.
Seems like you're pretty hung up on this dysfunction thing. Are you saying that kind of dysfunction should go untreated? Wouldn't dysfunction mean something ought to be done?
thanks he's taking me on a date in the city on my day off
hopefully it turns out okay since i'm terrible at relationships
>you could tell him that you just feel lonely and want a boyfriend, but thats true too
kek he already knows that, I'd probably mention something about having a crush on him "back in high school" or something if he was single.
but he's not, and that just sucks
also if we're arguing and I say something he disagrees with he'll like tell me to suck his nuts or his dick. guys do that all the time, but the only other person I've heard him say it to is... his gf
whatever, down the road when he ends up being single I'll say something. I feel like we're pam and jim from the office, and like how they never quite line up or say something to each other in the early seasons.
>I'm not upset that you can't construct an argument,
You seem to have a displaced idea where you are wanting to have an intellectual debate, but it sounds like to me you don't even think about your own points well enough as they can be used against you in verbatum.
>in fact it makes what I'm doing a lot easier.
I don't know what you are doing and I doubt you do either.
>Seems like you're pretty hung up on this dysfunction thing.
That was precisely my point, it's a dysfunction. You can sit there and say I am hung up on it, but I was responding to someone who was trying to insinuate it's perfectly normal.
>Are you saying that kind of dysfunction should go untreated? Wouldn't dysfunction mean something ought to be done?
I didn't say that, I didn't tell anyone not to transition. You're coming from a displaced position where you're wanting to prove me "wrong", but all you're doing is putting words in my mouth here.
tbqh it was prolly just as overinflated as the rest of her, obese people have an obnoxious sense of entitlement and indignation that is completely inappropriate given the fact they cannot handle something as basic as not being a zepplin
>tfw no gf
>tfw all you want is somebody to make you happy
>tfw none of your friends care about you enough to actually try and be your friend and are just passing friends.
DON'T FORGET TO VOTE IF YOU HAVEN'T. THIS IS FOR SCIENCE.
>you reject everyone that tries to be your friend
when the fuck?
>Its unfair to ask someone else to make you happy.
all I want is someone that I feel comfortable with and like I don't have to be afraid of scaring away with even the slightest thing.
>Are you asking too much of your friends
All I'm asking is I have friends that once in a blue moon talk to me first instead of just forget about me as soon as we finish a conversation.
>before u posted as amy victoria
you mean when I was amy in the night like 3 years ago?
>tfw no gf
>tfw all you want is somebody to make you happy
I need to find happiness in myself desu but that would be nice to have anyway
Hey man i asked you to fucking elaborate and you left me to make assumptions, in that order, by refusing to elaborate when i asked.
So it seems we are in agreement! Something has to go wrong for a person to have the condition that might lead to transition, and how its acted on is between the individual and their medical care providers. I think that transition is a corrective action for something that needs correcting, and that implies something is wrong.
You're going to have to make your way to tumblr to find the "don't need dysphoria to be trans" and "I change gender identity every day" nuts. You'll have a lot more success trolling over there, you may go now with my blessings. You can set those people on fire for all I care.
Its a long story of abuse and depression, I now find myself screaming at the wall in my bedroom
>tfw Noun will never love you
>tfw all you want is him but he doesn't even want to be your friend
do you want to talk about it?
>Hey man i asked you to fucking elaborate and you left me to make assumptions, in that order, by refusing to elaborate when i asked.
That's never the way to have a debate with anyone. From observing someone express that transgender people are dysfunctional to arrive to a conclusion it shouldn't be medically treated is a giant stretch. By formulating a strawman argument you are weakening your own points.
>So it seems we are in agreement! Something has to go wrong for a person to have the condition that might lead to transition, and how its acted on is between the individual and their medical care providers. I think that transition is a corrective action for something that needs correcting, and that implies something is wrong.
Exactly, but this delusional "person" was trying to debate otherwise.
>You're going to have to make your way to tumblr to find the "don't need dysphoria to be trans" and "I change gender identity every day" nuts. You'll have a lot more success trolling over there, you may go now with my blessings. You can set those people on fire for all I care.
I don't come and go on your terms.
>tfw 80% of mtfg are skinny (probably tall) white bitches
mado you have to move on
you're obsessed with him and its not good for you
Dude I'm just glad you agree that transition is acceptable. I appreciate your support for the people of this thread.
Delusion though? Isn't it a jump to assume that dysfunction equals delusion? Show your work.