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Have you adopted a black boy yet?
Regressive nazi thread: >>5712119
>the burden of being white is too much on me
>I wish I could tear of my skin and hand out my privilege to all coloured people around me at work who have it exactly the same as me in 2016
>I'm still here for some reason
I never made it K.
I have become a ghost that haunts these threads
nope. i don't like most horror movies desu.
the only one i've ever watched more than once is The Descent.
old horror movies don't scare me, they just leave a really bad taste in my mouth. watching them makes me feel violated.
Yes op, I did adopt a black boy. My white fostercare son james constantly got in fights with jamal though, and blamed it all on jamal, so I've started to share my hrt with him to calm him down.
They're a lot closer now even though james is less energetic and frowns a lot now
I bet you didn't even swoon when Duncan Heyward valiantly sacrificed his life in The Last of the Mohicans.
I bet you didn't even get that weird feeling when watching Perfume: The Story of a Murderer when you realised Jean Baptiste Grenouille would find your hormone-induced ladyscent intoxicating enough to try and kill you and wrap you up in lard and hessian cloth.
I bet you didn't even get that racially induced cognitive dissonance watching Creasy relentlessly murder everyone in Mexico City's corrupt law enforcement who stood between him and rescuing Pita.
And you want to say I have bad taste in movies? baka.
yeah I guess personal taste is a thing aha. each to their own.
well thats poo
to happiness you dumb dumb
find meaning to your life that doesn't involve sexually pleasing other people. Read or do arts and crafts or play music or something. Find hobbies and find friends that share those hobbies. Me and a girl friend get together every week to sew or do arts and crafts and cook all day. We've been doing latchhooks which have been really fun. We also share with each other different animu or mangos we like and play children's card games. Also, work a lot. Gives you a sense of purpose and some income which is always lovely.
I do miss having a bf though and have been getting horny lately so idk ( ._.)
>does a bear shit in the woods?
Dunno, I don't really see myself as one. I'm pretty open minded, probably dated like... 20 people in total over the course of 10 years, 3 of them were trans. I didn't really understand the whole trans thing until I was 19 or something, I thought trans people were pretty much just drag queens and perverts(still ashamed of that). Added Amelia from some random rate thread forever ago thinking she was cis, learned some more. Started reading up about it, eventually got introduced to mtfg and tinychat, made some friends, stuck around. Slowly became more and more okay with the idea of going out with someone who's trans, so I did. Was hella scared, thought it'd be really different and fucking weird. It wasn't, was just like going out with any other broad. Was really scared that I was gay or some shit and whatever that'd mean to my social circle. Pondered some more; came to the conclusion that being straight means liking what’s feminine, which really isn't gender specific. So, what gender someone was originally born with, or what an attractive/pretty girl has between her legs is completely irrelevant to me. Looked back at what I thought transgenderism was prior to that(drag queens, perverts), noticed that most people had the same opinion. Realized that transpeople are one of the most misunderstood minorities out there. Which is something I really sympathize with. Started making anonymous donations to support groups and shekels to trans people I'm friends with who are in bad spots, which I'mma keep doing whenever I have dosh to spare. Ramped up muh dating game eventually, dated transgrills and cisgrills alike, the only real difference to me, is that transbroads tends to have similar hobbies and have it easier to like, understand me. They know what its like to be "different" and therefore have an easier time to relate to the bs I'm dealing with. Regardless of that, its pretty much 50/50.
Am I cheser frenchfriend? :c
It's amazing how much anticipating an end to shit like this makes it more unpleasant than when I was resigned to suffering that fate until I was lucky enough to die.
I suppose suffering needs hope to give it teeth.
Just loose weight imi. Unless you like being a fatty fräulein, in which case go for it.
Oh, look. It's the best horror movie.
Eyy I like you too in a totally platonic way madds. How's the diet going? Not too hard on yourself I hope?
My fingers aren't long enough to finger my ass properly.
Eh kinda shitty desu, I was in bed until 4:30 yesterday afternoon because depressed and dysphoric, and then I ate a bunch of terrible food and drank a lot last night. I feel pretty awful today u_u
>since I stopped playing it.
i failed at every man thing i tried desu. i only ever played rugby in school PE.
my brother was the youth club rugby player in our family.
my brother and sister are actually the two best siblings for any dysphoric person to have because both of them are so much more masculine/boyish for their assigned genders than i am. i love them to bits and i pray my brother isn't also a repressing girl because.. mhm... alpha male jawline hon tier...
That makes sense, either that or... Its just a very long story and me having thought about it a lot. I could've shortened it down easily but I didn't want to leave anything out, after derping around in these threads for a while I've learned that if you aren't 100% clear with what you mean; people will intentionally misinterpret shit instead of just asking and jump to conclusions.
It's just a minor setback on your road to becoming the person you want to be (and you have made a lot of progress). Always keep your eyes on the prize, don't let anything distract you (even if it's shitty dysphoria).
Yeah sure. They let Andreja model after all.
Everybody is a critic these days.
Reasons why transgender girls are so attractive to me.
- I have been generally attracted to androgynous features on females all my life. A lot of people have told me I have a tendency to go for girls who look like lesbians.
- This translates perfectly to a mtf, even if her facial features were somewhat masculine, I would still think she was beautiful. In fact, her flaws are what turns me on.
- Small and misshaped hormone boobs are just so endearing, like looking at a sad puppy out in the rain waiting to be rescued.
- Really love the look of a bra covering the A cupped kawaii hormone boobs followed by a male torso, something about this combination drives me wild.
- A nice bubble butt covered by girly underwear, but the fact there is a penis on the other side makes me want to suck the cum out of it.
>Contact sports just aren't a goof fit for someone as delicate as you.
welp, i've well and truly been outshaded.
You basically like all the things they hate and want to change. I mean, there's nothing wrong with you liking that, but you gotta realize that for kost of us it's like being a recovering anorexic and getting told " I love the way your rips are sticking out, it's a real turn on."
>I have a tendency to go for girls who look like lesbians.
>This translates perfectly to a mtf
pic related is my sides, not quite making it into orbit.
either it actually happened and it's given her first hand proof that she should have listened to us when it came to dragface and floral print,
or kayla is actually more self aware than she dares let on.
i dunno, women's cuts of jeans, plainer, more modest tops? you don't have to go for the frilliest floral frocks in store. also i mean just pay attention to what other girls in your area wear on a daily basis.
you know, pay attention to other people instead of being so self absorbed. lol.
Now it's time for chin/jaw/nose and facelift-lite. 3 days post op and I freaking love me new forehead (even though it's very swollen).
She's trapped in this bubble with skewed ideas of feminity
something like pic related then?
longer shorts, a tee with at least some amount of sleeve
it's because no matter how much help people try giving you, you still find a way to be a complete downer, to see every obstacle in your way, to always look for problems instead of solutions, to invalidate other peoples' problems by always point-scoring how allegedly worse off you are, and by meme'ing about how much more trutrans you are.
Idunno, I very strictly disagree with most anything kayla thinks, but then, I don't think beliefs are worth malicious respobse no matter how fucked up. I don't think kayla is particularly cruel to other individuals here, and when she is it's in rare bursts that she apologizes for, or retaliation.
Who else is excited for this?
Hypothetically if you're New-Womb was not replaceable and you had the option to choose an animal womb, would you? What kind of womb would it be?
>tfw had to work a shitload of extra hours this week
>tfw working week done
>tfw nice pay next week due to overtime
Time to get drunk and do drugs.
How is everyone tonight?
For me it was no pain at all. When I wake up in post operative room I felt extremly confy. When they took me to my room I had this crazy amout of energy so I couldn't sleep. On the second they the itching came and it was really awfull because I was ubable to scrach it away. On the third day I lost all my energy. But still no paint. AMA if you want
Unnatural ways of taking estrogen :^]
There's a lot you don't know about me friend, muh sick bass lines dawg!
Am I wrong? Everyone else who is well off financially passes and uses their money to tell me I am not enough of a woman even though their being full time is based only because they didn't have to wait for nothing.
Its implied, if they aren't all upset and pissed off then they at least don't live month to month worrying where the money is coming from like I have to worry. I can't even get hired, I went to 3 interviews for minimum wage shit this week and not one called me back. Even if I got a job I would need to work 2 just to survive. If I got 5 jobs it would take me 25 years just to get srs. So my anger is justified.
>Not being part of the problem destroying many great cities of america
Kayla, I need your opinion.
I'm looking for a new car and I want something modest and unpretentious and I think you might understand the needs of a poor girl better than anyone else on this board.
Bentley or Maserati?
yeah it's not that bad most of the time. but ppl are in ironically racist and homophobic here so im always extra careful
You make me laugh kayla
Don't ever stop baby <3
You got a loan for ffs, don't be playing coy, acting like you are more of a girl than I am just because you were handed thousands of dollars to rearrange your face, I would gladly go in for ffs today if someone gave me the cash.
Your mom pays for your bachelor program and your housing, you are a leech.
I'm seriously considering it desu yesterday the governor announced TOPS (financial aid) for ALL colleges is suspended immediately bc the previous gov fucked it state funds so bad
>Am I wrong? Everyone else who is well off financially passes and uses their money to tell me I am not enough of a woman even though their being full time is based only because they didn't have to wait for nothing.
I make so little money in a year that I dont even pay taxes because I make less than 50% of the minimum you need to make to pay taxes.
Protip: I also started in my mid-20s, am just shy of six foot tall, and have a low voice. I cant afford fucking anything.
I also pass becuase I put in effort, even when i cant put in money.
Stop being a cunt to everyone around you just because you've made your life shit and refuse to do a damned thing about it.
Being fair, kayla did spend the last seven or so years shitting on assorted internet trans communities, and has spent the last two shitting on this one in particular.
So at this point, she's probably earnt a little bully.
Fair enough then. I only pop in like once every three months or so these days to see whats going down, so I guess i missed it.
Congrats either way.
i haven't legitimately been on 4chan for a couple months now
sometimes i like /a/ or /vg/ but that's about it really
although given the state of this place im kinda glad i was gone really
(also danse is hot)
misery loves company takes over everywhere. it really isn't worth it. some stuff on the side where they can ban people seems ok, tho. still, everywhere has a finite useful lifespan as usual with trans women
>Progressive liberal edition
Stop politicizing your faggotry in the service of communism. NIGGER!
I'd rather have a designer vagina.
You and yume/gem must be the only ones
Good! How are you?
>using a 1911, for anything
Do the trans surprise trick
No one is trying to make you feel like shit (except yourself)
1104 and I still haven't gotten to sleep. I'm winning™, right?
Uhm you are not the only one. I have been on mones for 1 year 1.5 months.
Stop being mean
Life isn't fair. Start battling for yourself instead of attacking people
Is there such thing as agp
BPA? What? Is that bad? Fuck I am a retail slave
That's why people who post on 4chan are never getting my contact information. You get pictures and that's it.
Didn't mean it that way. I meant they weren't single but that is a damn good insult, topkek
>tfw being eaten out by a really hot guy
>let out the nastiest HRT fart ever
>pull the ole blanket over him and pin him
>let that smell of ancient buttermilk mixed with a rotten shrimp omelette bake him good
Kayla has been actively posting on tranny image boards for years. She predates /lgbt/. I think the earliest I saw her on /cd/ was either 2010 or early 2011
I don't know but it makes me sad. Nobody has the same experiences, but we are all in this together and we're stronger when we don't fight over petty shit like appearance.
>tfw being eaten out by a really hot guy
>let out the nastiest HRT fart ever
>pull the ole blanket over him and pin him
>let that smell of ancient buttermilk mixed with a rotten shrimp omelette bake him good
Dumb to begrudge people in the same situation what little relief they have. Crab mentality.
Sometimes passer elitist behavior is dumb too. Seems like some people are worse at empathy than cisfags even.
Is it wrong to think that a lot of transwomen are just guys with lesbian fetishes who realize that they too could be a lesbo and no one their age would question them these days so they'll do anything to be a part of their fantasy?
>implying everyone here's a lesbian
Personally, I'm just a big fan of penis
Its hardly paranoia.
You've just always been a huge cunt, and one who doxxes people, and if the boot fits...
Kayla dates back to /cd/ on 420. Then she's been here for the last few years.
Non-passers get jealous.
Then a lot of the time, if passers try to talk about anything that comes with passing, non-passers get more jealous.
Then if passers try to help at all, non-passers get pissy about it becuase YOU COULDNT UNDERSTAND MY PAIN BECUASE YOU PASS, forgetting that everyone didnt pass at one point.
i just wanna have tity's + vag and be pretty desu
I'm a big fan of girlpenis.
Can't comment on girlpenis, but I don't discriminate, all penises are pretty great.
Well you point the finger at me on ufufu so I'm assuming that little brain of yours can come up with other rumors
>tfw you will never pass
>tfw you mistake someone elses door for your own because tired
Oh angie, as if I needed to project anything onto you.
Besides, you need a good clean surface for a projector to work properly.
You're so fucking warped that nothing would come out right anyways.
woops uh, ty for compliment. sorry for not getting back to you. um, i'll think of something. unless i've overdone the clonazepam, i try to keep things as fake as possible on here given in case i find myself on the wrong side of someone with nothing better to do as seems to happen a lot here.
are you on any of the discords that came and went, maybe? i use that as an direct messenger a fair amount since, from there maybe i could give you my facebook or something?
never did discord :/
and i don't have a fb either. and yeah we didn't like, discuss really personal stuff but i had a really good conversation with you once and it was cool being able to strike a chord with someone.
the only contact detail i'm really comfortable with giving out here is my skype ID. i mean i guess i could drop my steam ID too? i don't really use steam though.
>having a steam
>paying for games
Gets me every time
I can't afford the surgeries I need to be a girl so fuck it and fuck all of you. All of you get thousands to live my dreams and I get nothing but pain. I hate all of you, your transition is stealing from mine and only I suffer.
you don't even have the self control, to not come here? the mods aren't your parents to make sure you get your homework done and aren't wasting your time on here. learn some self discipline, it'll take you far.
fuck you, my life is tragic, there is no hope for me, who will pay for srs or ffs for me? no one, so I alone suffer
>I alone suffer
k thanks, try to get a reality check. millions, probably billions of people have it worse than you can possibly conceive.
Just cause your parents cut you off, maybe, and even if you're homeless doing sex work in America. tons of girls here have done that and they get through it and it makes them stronger,
its fine to get down but don't think that because you're sad you can diminish the suffering of others.
No you are a peice of shit, not helping and only making fun of me drove me to this. All anyone ever does is mock me and tease me. No one is ever nice to me in real life or online. I am punished by the world for no reason.
Are cis girls only cis to taunt us too then? And do you only have access to clean water to rub it in everyone's face? That's not how shit works. It doesn't make us feel better that your needs aren't being met...
I don't even have autism, I just can't get anyone to hire me. I have done a total of 5 interviews for minimum wage work and even they wont hire me. I am out of money and out of time. I will never be a girl at this rate. my life is truly over
Find out, retard. You're really going to detransition because you don't know how to google search a phone number?
>I am punished by the world for no reason.
You're the one who chose to dither about transition for nearly a decade.
You're the one who has lashed out and pushed away everyone here who has ever tried to help you or even just give you advice.
You're the one who has thrown money at 'girl stuff' and then destroyed it over and over.
You're the one who keeps taking manual labour jobs and then whining about how they make you manly.
You're the one with unreasonable expectations from HRT who flips her shit just because you're not a 10/10 big titted playboy model within a year.
You're the one who lies constantly about everything you've been through, you're the one who bitches constantly about how no one else could ever understand your self-inflicted pain, and you're the one who attacks anyone who passes or has a life that you percieve as easier than yours.
You are the problem in your life.
Fix yourself, fix your outlook, and then maybe you'll be able to get somewhere.
But dont you dare just sit and cry about how people bully you for no reason.
pull your head out your ass, sunshine.
you're so incredibly out of touch with reality you can't even see yourself speak.
you think you're a blameless victim?
we're sick of you're tiresome, passive-aggressive lashing out, of your self-pitying negativism and stubborn refusal to take ANY responsibility for your situation.
get off the computer and grow up.
i'll contact you via a dead steam account and when i do i'll tell you something that i'll post here with my tripcode, then after verifying that, you can know it's me.
someone already replied to you oddly, so um, if creepily anyone else has contacted you yet, it isn't me. it just may take a bit since steam is updating and i'm currently using a cell connection that's throttled. i may also need to reset my password since i don't really use it, but i should be able to log in, i expect
>I looked and looked, all I can get is a page telling me medi cal covers srs but I can't get a physical fucking phone number
15 seconds on google
She just triggers my autism with emoticons and stuff.
dw the only person to add me on skype was Pan just adding me to her main account since she'd previously used a throwaway account she was more comfortable dropping here to get in contact with me.
We dont need to provide you with proof to know you're an awful person angie. It's patently clear to everyone, and all you ever do is contribute to it.
So keep up the good work I guess.
"Hello I am a tranny, how would I go about getting tranny surgery"
Jesus christ its not fucking hard.
oh come on you big baby, you wonder why people are so annoyed with you? you expect us to hold your hand through EVERYTHING and never pull your own weight! do you even want to transition? you're putting up as much resistance to doing anything yourself.
F U C K O F F
Just tell them you're a california resident that's MtF transgender and want to learn more about your benefits/rights.
they should be able to help you set up an appointment or direct you in the right direction.
>people still taking Kayla's bait
You kids are fucking retarded
>Tfw gf comes home and pins me down and vigorously sucks my gt until i explode in her mouth
Kayla, you can only worry about shit going wrong for so long. You're going to have to decide, whether you're just going to give 0 fucks about what anyone else thinks or what happens. Just go for it. Honestly you have nothing to lose, if your alternative is detransition. like seriously you still have balls, otherwise you wouldn't be pursuing this, use them,.
>weigh myself on a whim
>expect to gain weight because I've been eating crappy and gave up on exercise for now
>I lost 4 pounds
Also goodmorning thread
When I figure out how I lost weight doing literally nothing different I'll let you know! I'm kinda tempted to cut down on how much I eat by a lot so I'll keep losing weight until I'm in the 130s, I'm only 140 right now.
Hah I'm coming from the other direction. Goal is 130ish but been stuck closer to 115 for ages. I'm heading out in a little bit here to head to the pot shop and then gonna see Deadpool, but I'll message you when I get back! ^^
daily reminder that if you don't vote for the God-Emperor you are going to hell.
I'm jelly, I wanna see Deadpool. I hope you have fun!
>Now I'm just imagining a /pol/ help hotline.
I need one, please. Just fuck my country up.
fuck off kayla. you're not getting any sympathy from me because you have shown absolutely zero sympathy for anyone else here, or anyone else in our situation, or anyone else in far worse situations than you or i will ever know.
and for the record yes, i have been punched in the face in public, i've had my nose broken, but that is a drop in the fucking ocean compared to the people who have to risk their lives 24/7 to transition, who have to do the most degrading sex work to even be able to afford the meds i KNOW you are on which you bought with your mum's money.
you're a selfish, egocentric bitch, and i will continue calling you out on it until either you leave, or i manage to grab contacts with the DECENT people here so that i can leave instead.
you are taking stuff out on us that you should see a professional about. and what if they "ridicule" you? you'd be a laughing stock here if your annoying, grating attitude weren't so unbelievably tragic.
now fuck off. please.
>I am just so fycking stupid I might fuck up and say the wrong thing
You literally can't, these people are trained to hardly even listen to you. They know exactly what you're calling for and what you want to hear.
kayla was a character cut from napoleon dynamite that was some older crossdressing cousin shut in who enjoys wearing contemporary women's clothing of the time
you could offer them anything and it would just be like a very grown-up kid who can't stop yelling at their parents
Well yea how else to feel permanently shit about yourself
You're just the laughing stock of /mtfg/. The rest of the world is just as biased and cruel to you as it is to us, but you keep burning bridges with the only people who understand you.
Believe it or not, most of us want you to be happy. But you're not helping anyone by sitting on here and complaining, including yourself.
Be a big girl, take control of your life, move out, get help. Whatever you need you won't find it here, /mtfg/ can't run your life but we'll keep you company at night. You just can't come in guns blazing and expect constant sympathy and shit.
Well that's all a very good point, minus the move out on my own bit. Rent in my area is too fucking high to move out, and I want to leave the state where rent is cheaper but what if the job market is just as bad there? This all comes down to money. Money to move out, money for weekly electrolysis, money for better skin care and makeup, money for my nose job at least, but no, no one wants to hire me so I am fucking poor.
You do remember how you've spent the last few years bouncing into every single trans community and telling everyone that theyre all crazy men who just need to man up and try weed and they would be fine?
It's cruel, sure, but you did kinda ask for this.
WHat the fuck are you doing you nutjob