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Endings, and New Beginnings, Edition

▶Zeemaps: https://www.zeemaps.com/map?group=1843968
▶Informed Consent Providers: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/932389/Trans/Stepping%20Forward%20-%20Informed%20Consent%20Clinics.pdf
▶Trans Info Dump: http://pastebin.com/h1vLPxyV
▶Beginner makeup resources: http://masterposter.tumblr.com/post/116605714860
▶Size charts: http://www.americanapparel.net/sizing/default.asp?chart=womens.pantse_conversion_chart.php
▶Transition timelines: http://imgur.com/a/qWpxv
▶Voice Training: http://pastebin.com/dgipdsge
▶HRT info: https://web.archive.rg/web/0000000000000 http://taimapedia.org/index.php?title=Hormones
▶Voice Help: http://webjedi.net/projects/lgbtq/speech-therapy/
▶MTFG Radio https://www.dubtrack.fm/join/mtfg
▶IRC: https://www.rizon.net/chat #mtfg

Sayonara, >>5705480
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>cutfags
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Not even yume's cock can fill this hole in my heart.
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>>5706759
tfw you're mutilated
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>>5706768
>tfw mutilated by testosterone in womb
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>>5706756
Take care, Elanna.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJKMji2688M
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aaaand i'm off to finish what i started
can't say it's been fun but see you all another time
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>>5706782
is this a joke? pls don't, kiwi..
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>>5706782
Wait what are you doing?
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>tfw your gf anime stutters IRL

>>5706782
you had better be talking about an album or something
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9L4q-0Pi4E

Why does everyone have to leave? We're supposed to be sisters.
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God damn it
What is the point of coming here if everyone is leaving?
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So Im just now lurking for the first time today. What the hell is going on?
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>>5706816
Angry people driving happy people away from the thread.
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>>5706798
this is pretty baller anon

https://catune.bandcamp.com/album/mirror-on-then-in-2
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>>5706816
A lot
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>>5706782
good idea. ive been meaning to quit this shithole of a board anyway. all it makes me do is dwell on myself and feel like shit even though people say i pass and nobody misgenders me in real life. i just want to try and live a normal life and shit. it isnt helpful with kids from /pol/ shitposting all the time and unhappy trannies being mean to each other because of their extreme dissatisfaction of themselves. nobody cares about an anon, theres always going to be new ones but cya forever i guess. you make me depressed and i dont need you anymore
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>>5706822
Oh ok.
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Is this true? This is kind of a punch to the gut.
>tfw largish hands
>tfw broad shoulders
>tfw tall
>tfw bridged nose
My face is super feminine though. Still. Seems like no amount of surgery will allow me to pass according to this
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Whoever I was talking to in the previous thread, i wrote more

>>5706824
Noooooooooooooo
>>5706816
Sheen probably killed herself and Elanna went away. She dropped her name too.
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>>5706775
>>5706819
so why exactly did elanna leave?
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>>5706840
Bullied
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>>5706840
Some ppl were being maen to her apparently
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>>5706840
Kayla.
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>>5706824
Even though I don't know who you are, I'm still sorry to see you go; best of luck with life, anon.
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>>5706798
because theres a clique mentality forming and its causing everyone to become aggressive and mean to each other
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>>5706833
>all these dubs and yet my kingdom feels empty
But seriously I don't know what to do with myself.
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>>5706833
Don't take anything /mtfg/ says about passing as gospel; seek external advice from less distorted sources.
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>>5706850
You're just gonna have to try mate
Good luck
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>>5706855
I got it from /co/
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>>5706833
>hands
depends how large
>shoulders
depends on how much ass hips breasts you get to balance it
>tall
nothing wrong with that
>bridged nose
don't know what that is
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>>5706857
I have passed to almost every one in town, but it just made me feel like people were just being nice after reading it. southerner here
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>>5706859
What's a good hip shoulder balance?
I've got 17 inch shoulders and 39-41 hips

>>5706860
>South
Well, you pass then
If you didn't it, you'd get beaten up or something
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>>5706859
>hands
slightly below average male sized
>shoulders
Not much hip or ass. However I am getting a boob job to make them appear smaller. how big of a tell is it?
>tall
I guess
>bridged nose
Like a bump on the nose
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>>5706798
Because we talk too much about stuff that isn't music and boys.
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>>5706840
Kayla bullying her for passing.
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>inner voice still doesn't think of me as a girl
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>>5706865
You are getting a boob reduction? Why? You
want as big of boobs as possible if you have broad shoulders. If anything you would get butt implants/work that ass hard to build up muscle

>>5706861
I have roughly same dimensions and would like to know too
>>5706858
Try r/transpassing on reddit too
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>>5706840
Anons bullying and I also think she was upset that her posting her pic made so many unpassing people so depressed

I don't think that should mean she's not allowed to feel happy posting her pics but at the same time I'm one of those people so I understand the other side of the argument about how seeing people doing much better than you ever can because of genetics is fucking heartbreaking

truth is there's no easy answers because there's no easy answer to our problems full stop, the universe doesn't care about us and for plenty of us life is a daily struggle to survive in the face of unbeatable odds
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>>5706884
I said a boob job, that can be enlargement too. I'm getting breast enlargement
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Honestly we should just let mtfg die. It was fun for a long while but it's just gotten too fucked-up to function properly anymore. The noobie pre-transitioners have trans help general to ask about getting started and stuff, the trips still have the skype group to socialise in, so there's nothing healthy coming out of keeping this monster running. can we all, or at least most of us, just agree to let it peter out as much as possible?
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>>5706885
Still it's not fair to start shit because of something that she has no control over. That's like me being mad at my twin for being cis
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>>5706890
If people would stop being catty cunts it would be fine
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been lurking these shitshows for a couple years now

yall a bunch of cucks desu
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>>5706895
agreed
let's be friends desu
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>>5706890
It'd be so lonely though; maybe if /tlg/ picked back up again, it used to be pretty good back in the day. Skype and IRC and such just aren't the same, there's something cozy about image board threads that other media don't quite have, I don't know what really. It'd definitely nice if /mtfg/ could go back to being slightly less fucked-up, though.
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maybe a rule should be established that only passers should be allowed to post here? nonpassers can either start their own thread or move to stephanie's playground or some place like it
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>>5706831
I told myself the same shit before I pulled the trigger. Just do it! Yesterday you said tomorrow. Just DO IT.meme
>>5706831
>>>5706807 (You)
>>>5706808
>>>5706815 (You)
>I've spent the past 10 years convincing myself it's not real dysphoria, it's only because I'm a virgin, or that I don't have any companions. It's a fetish. Etc.
>I half believe it now and it stops me dead before I manage to actually order the hormones. I don't know how many times I've gotten right to the final click on AllDayChemist.
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https://a.pomf.cat/cpoozf.webm
How can this be me?
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>>5706907
But I'm a non-passer and not a bully
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>>5706907
If people say I pass but I don't can I still post?
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>>5706907
What a shit rule, delete this hon.
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>>5706905
>tfw joan will never respond to your advances
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>>5706907
maybe we should all go to reddit
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(You) this post if mtfg is officially dead
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>>5706833
literally all the women in my family have the nose bridge thing, won't stop you from passing.
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>>5706902
Yay! ^_^
>>5706905
>>5706907
We should not split up such a tiny board because then it would be harder to get information
>>5706917
Agreed
>>5706920
Reddit communities for trans ppl exist (namely r/asktransgender)
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>>5706923
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>>5706907
Maybe we should have no rules? Maybe we should stop this tribal "I'm more trans than you" bullshit.

If you're a trans girl, and you want to post here, you are allowed to post here. Pre-everything, pre-hrt, 5 months hrt, 5 years hrt, pre-op, non-op, post-op, etc. We're all in the same fight.

It's this constant,
>PRE-HRT SCUM SHOULD LEAVE
>NON FULL TIMES SHOULD LEAVE
>NON-OPS SHOULD LEAVE
>PASSERS SHOULD LEAVE
>NON-PASSERS SHOULD LEAVE
shit that is ruining the general to begin with.
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>>5706931
Exactly this
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>>5706907
t. A "passer" who neglected to share proof
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>>5706927
What are you into?
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>>5706931
nonpassers are consistently the ones driving people out and ruining the mood of the thread

i think we should at least discuss having nonpassers move somewhere else. they'd certainly be in good company in a place like stephanie's playground with other nonpassers.
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I feel like the way to fix this general is to remove kayla.
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>>5706934
im not trans, i'm a chaser
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>>5706919
>tfw you will never get that Anonymous is making advances on you because you're the oblivious protagonist archetype
(Besides, Anonymous is best girl, she deserves to hook up with a much better tripfag.)
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>>5706938
that cancer has been on 4ch forever and future looks the same
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>>5706931
this is the kind of dangerous hugboxing that leads to people like edgar posting in the thread, and eventually allowing mtfg to end up like any of the other hon infested hugboxes on the web.

>>5706938
This is correct.
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>>5706936
>i think we should at least discuss having nonpassers move somewhere else.
Great, we should make it so everyone has to post verified proof of them passing otherwise they'll be completely ignored. That won't split the community at all, or go again the whole point of being anonymous.

Let's attack and hunt down the less genetically fortunate and drive them away because they're depressed, that way we (the genetically unfortunate) can sit and wallow in our depression in peace.

Fuck you, fuck everything you're saying. You're a filthy chaser who just wants these threads to be full of Bailey Jay shemale hotties.
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>>5706942
But do you pass as a chaser?
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>>5706949
we dont have to require proof. we'll know if someone is a nonpasser if they get extremely angry when a passer posts their picture


>>5706951
yeah i think so
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I wonder if Kayla/shitposters are happy that all the "filthy passers" are all gone now.

But I know that she'll just find something else to scapegoat her problems on.
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Everyone should filter kayla, stop feeding it attention.
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>>5706955
The younger ones will be next I bet
Gonna be a lot of yelling at people who "were privileged enough to start at a young age"
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>>5706925
But memes told me it won't pass ;-;,,,
(seriously though, I have cis relatives with a worse nose than mine)
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>>5706947
>hugboxing
It's really not, there is a difference between not being a hugbox and being a cancer filled hole of shitposting.

Fuck this neo-4chan "NORMIES REEEE" mentality where we constantly destroy our own communities to try and drive out these mystical boogeymen. Or boogeyhons. /mtfg/ has gone years without some retarded "ONLY PASSERS ALLOWED, GENETIC LOTTERY LOSERS CAN FUCK OFF" policy and we're not infested with hons.

We don't need to hugbox. If an uggo posts and asks if they pass, you can call them an uggo. But it doesn't mean we can't get along with each other and be supportive of other trans girls going through the same bullshit. Deliberately splitting the community and fighting just makes everyone more miserable, we can help eachother get through this but not if we devolve into "I'M TRUTRANS, YOU'RE AGP SCUM FUCK OFF" shit. This isn't Tumblr or Reddit, it's not a contest to see who has the most dysphoria and the weirdest gender.

Also, by the way chaser-kun, you already drove our last passer out. So welcome to non-passers general.
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>>5706959
kay has been around longer and will probably still be here after most of us have left
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>non-passing instantly makes you a hon now
who started this meme?
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>feel the urge to talk to new people
>talk to random guy cause he lives near me
>hes hot
>good taste in anime and games
>makes his own music which is actually pretty good
holy shit im usually into girls, is this the guy that turns me straight?
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>>5706840
Seriously? About fucking time! That shiposting hon ruined ever damn thread.
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Was elanna the one with the big glasses and wavy brown hair? I'm new here so I'm a bit confused
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>>5706955
I don't even think he bullies the passers, it's just the cute passers.
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>>5706969
The tards here did it
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>>5706970
don't turn to the dark side
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>>5706972
ye
need a catch up on other trips?
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>>5706970
>he's hot
idk sounds like you're already at least half straight
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>>5706970
Go for it, if it works out either you end up bi or he ends up having been a transgirl all along, you win either way.
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>>5706977
yeah actually haha i have no idea who anyone is or what's going on exactly
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good luck everyone
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>>5706966
it's just not safe for nonpassers here, they can't control their emotions when they see a passer. maybe we should at least post a warning in the OP for nonpassers telling them that there are passers in these threads that posts their photos? that way girls who know they can take it can go somewhere like reddit or stephanie's playground to feel more at home.
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>>5706982
Don't even think about it kiwi
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>>5706982
KIWI DON'T!!!
Please!
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>>5706982
Kiwi no. I told you you're forbidden. You survived this once already, please don't throw away that chance you got to make your life right.
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>>5706976
So are biscum that snowflake order of not-quite-light sith that's in the /tg/ versions of SW or something?
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>>5706982
jesus just don't, come on

your music has good production and you seem fun and nice and stuff god damn
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>>5706982
i don't understand, where are you going?
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>>5706981
Ok then who?
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>>5706991
Did you break up with her?
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Does anyone have the pic elanna posted?
I need to see what was so amazing that kayla had to bully her out of the thread.
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>>5706997
We agreed it was for the best we split.
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Wow, hey guys! I have an idea, how about we encourage a general culture where trans women who don't pass are not allowed to post pictures of themselves and will be promptly ridiculed and sent to an ugly girl general. This will be very healthy for our general, and definitely will not encourage every woman here with dysphoria (oh shit, that's all of us) to hide themselves and fester hatred towards themselves.

Let's see if we can get that suicide rate up to a passing grade, girls!
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>>5706982
You are taking that train, and you will keep making good music and help usher in the tranny artistic revolution, okay.
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>>5706982
A little late to go on a trip, isn't it? Maybe come home and go tomorrow when it's bright?

Anyways when is your next song coming out, I'm looking forward to it.
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>>5707002
let the record show that this is a horrendously gross misrepresentation of what's being suggested

no one is saying people have to prove they pass, just that when a nonpasser gets rowdy when they see a passer's photo we kindly ask them to leave


considering how much angry they claim passers make them, wouldn't they prefer to have their own thread?
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>>5706996
Why is kiwi on a train platform? (Kiwi I don't know you but if you're reading this please don't do this)

Who might you be as well? lol
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>>5706934
They never said they passed lol
>>5706935
Spending copious amounts of time alone, being awkward due to social anxiety, and getting rid of friends currently

Hopefully that will change and I can get back to cars, guitars, computers, firearms, skiing and mtb racing though.

What are you into? I want to have some irl friends that didn't know me before transition so I will probably be moving to Portland. Are you in Portland like everyone here seems to be?

>>5706936
Non passers just need to stop flaming. They need passers help too

>>5706938
Or better yet, convince her to stop bullying people
>>5706942
I don't mind you in here as long as you aren't telling us to kill ourselves every thread
>>5706947
That's not hug boxing that's being an open community

Also who the fuck is this edgar everyone has been talking about
>>5706949
This
>>5706966
This
>>5706970
Yes. Suck his dick and swallow
>>5706972
Yeah she is cute af and she left because people were shitty to her
>>5706977
Time to post selfies? Time to post selfies.
>>5706979
Or he's a stealth trans man
>>5706982
What do you mean? Are you trying to kill yourself too? Fuck.
>>5706988
We just need to collectively shame flamers
>>5706995
I think that means she is going to throw herself in front of a train
>>5706998
I also want to see this
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>>5706997
What's wrong with Kiwi, Grace?
I'm scared for her
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>>5706982
can anyone tell where this station is from the photo?
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>>5706982
I can't make out any identifying text or whatever so I can't even call up the railway and warn them or get the local emergency people to show up. This sucks. Please let this all be a misunderstanding on our part.
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>>5706982
do a flip, faggot
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is it all tumbling down for mtfg?
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>>5707011
>I don't mind you in here as long as you aren't telling us to kill ourselves every thread

i've never done this, i'm a very respectful chaser and generally don't do anything to identify myself as a chaser
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>>5707013
See if it has coordinates in the metadata
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>>5707012
She's having an extra rough night tonight because we broke up.
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>>5707013
>>5707015
uh i think kiwi lives in long island? no other ideas though :(
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>>5706982
numbnuts tried this same stunt when he got cucked by cheska
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>>5707016
Kill yourself anon
>>5707017
Maybe
>>5707019
Cool, wanna fuck?
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>>5707020
Here's all the meta-data I found:

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>>5707002
The problem isn't non-passers shitting on passers. It's non passers shitting on passers as a way to tell themselves they can never improve and getting increasingly toxic about it.
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>>5707011
Oh you see pretty cool
I'm into vidya n sheeit, cuz I've got nothing else to do

>time to post selfies
Not now

>>5707021
Please try and stop her, she doesn't deserve to die
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>>5707017
i apparently got doxxed and i'm still here so it's kind of a wash

>>5707032
awesome
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>>5707009
I don't think you understand what I'm saying then. If we encourage a culture where non-passers are shamed into leaving and not posting, you're encouraging a culture where women with dysphoria are too scared to post in fear of not passing and being flamed.

Guess who has dysphoria in /mtfg/? E V E R Y O N E. Even Elanna didn't think she passed. If you say only passers can post pictures, nobody will post pictures. This general will just become a bunch of chasers going, "17/m/mexico where are the hot shemales?? xD"

Like it or not, faggot, most of us don't pass. The difference is that this isn't a hotties meetup thread or a porn thread for chasers. This is a thread for trans women. I don't care if a girl posts here and has a man jaw, she's still one of us.

>>5707033
Boo hoo, fuck off. Everyone shits on everyone.
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>>5707030
>Cool, wanna fuck?
maybe if we meet candidly in real life somehow
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>>5707038
Not so awesome in that there's no location data, though. Sorry.
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>>5707034
She's offline on everything I have her on. I don't have her phone number.
It's a little late for a train, isn't it? 2 AM where she is now. Last night it sounded like the last one would have already came.
I wish I could do something, I've stopped her before but if I have no way of communicating with her there's nothing I can do.
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>>5707038
back in the day me and like 25 other trips got doxxed all at once, just mtfg as usual
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>>5707032
>>5707021
Grace that timestamp is legit do you live near her?
>>5707040
I'm in southern Minnesota
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>>5707039
anyone can post pictures, even nonpassers. people will tell them they don't pass, like they do already. if they lash out at passers, they gotta go. it will be exactly the same as it is now, we just won't sit idly by while people like elanna get berated for not being ugly
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>>5707042
tried the same bs when cheska left him, so probably re using old pix
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>>5707042
Do you know the company that runs the train lines there by any chance? They might have a website with schedules.
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>>5707020
4chan automatically removes coodrinates from metadata if I remember correctly.
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>>5707042
Idk
I thought trains ran all night
I really hope she doesn't do it
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Yeah I think Im just going to deal with living as a guy after reading through the threads tonight. I dont think Im crazy or delusional enough to put myself through what will most likely be a fail attempt at living as a girl. Sometimes one just has to accept reality. See you all around. I'll still try to fuck a transgirl every now and then to keep it all repressed.
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>>5707042
You were in a relationship but you don't have her phone number?
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>>5707043
How does that even happen? Do you even opsec?
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>>5707045
>southern Minnesota

socal here, but im trying to go to all 50 states at least once so you never know, we might cross paths
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>>5707047
Now you're backpeddling and you know it. You're retarded and your suggestion is fucking retarded.

Now shut the fuck up, there's more important stuff happening right now.
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>>5707010
I'd rather not describe myself
I'd prefer to let others judge me
That way it would be unbiased
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>>5707042
There's a train at 2:33 am. I've already called the cops.
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>>5707051
>I thought trains ran all night
cargo which is something I didnt think about
>>5707054
I had her Skype and basically everything online.
>>5707049
I don't, I dont even know the station.
>>5707048
Time-stamp is legit at least. I don't want to say she's not gonna do it but I really hope she's just making a cry for attention right now.
>>5707045
Nah, I'm pretty far from her.
>>5707060
As much as that sounds like bullshit I hope you actually did.
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>>5707023
is there a phone number for long island trains

we can call and tell them to be on the lookout
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Fuck today
>>5707060
Good job anon
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>>5707054
She may not be responding.
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>>5707042
You know where she lives right? Where is the nearest station from there?
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>>5707043
not like it really matters, what are people gonna do, tell on me on my mom? tell on me on my boss? i told my mom 2 years ago and i'm visibly extremely faggy at my workplace while being trained for a superior position so like... whatever

>>5707039
good post

>>5707041
true/sad post
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>>5707056
facebook, obviously.
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>>5707058
im not really backpeddling i just didnt really think it through

>Now shut the fuck up, there's more important stuff happening right now.
yeah i agree
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>>5707067
I just know it's like Long Island, I dont know where.
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>>5707060
Don't be lying
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heres the number for long island rail road someone call them and give them a warning (718) 217-5477

everyone else should get on google maps and see if they can find the train stop in the pic she posted
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Did sheen actually commit suicide or is this just some sick rumour. Wtf is going on. I've missed so much. Why is this alleged photo of elanna's gone? Did she remove it herself?
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http://itsalmo.st/#toolate
We can save her, think guys think.
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>>5707077
sheen said she will do it on monday

that gives her time to think it over so she hopefully probably won't do it
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>>5707076
Long Island is big though
How could you find the station?

>>5707077
She said she was going to and left her trip
We haven't heard from her since
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We're having a pretty bad night, huh?
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>>5707077
The sheen thing is, as always, a sick rumor.
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>>5707080
some shitter got sheen's trip
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>>5707083
Whatd i miss
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It's an unmanned station, Speonk (LIRR station) maybe? I'm a Canuck so I don't know anything about Long Island.
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>>5707082
match the building in the photo
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>>5707091
Sheen saying she'll commit suicide
Elanna leaving
Kiwi threatening suicide

>>5707092
Good job anon
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>>5707091
Sheen is going ti kill herself on Monday, elanna left because people were shitty to her for passing, kiwi is probably trying to kill herself rignt now
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>>5707091
Uhh, sheen and kiwi are gonna kill themselves, elanna left. Seems like most of us are generally pretty down otherwise too.
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>>5707092
Keep looking, it doesn't look like the right station, there's no building on google maps
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http://web.mta.info/lirr/Timetable/lirrmap.htm
list of LIRR stations
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>>5707011
I have never seen a post that replied to o many people at once.
>>5707095
>>5707096
Christ, yea, bad night.
Whoever has elanna on skype and stuff wish her the best for me. I hope whatever decision sheen and kiwi make for themselves...idk. idk.
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don't kill yourself
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>>5707111
dont tell me what to do. ill never accept myself and ill always feel like a freak. my life was ruined from the moment i was born
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What the fuck, guys.
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She's in custody now, you can all relax.
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>>5707011
>who the fuck is this edgar everyone has been talking about
Edgar/Noelle is someone who used to post in mtfg. She left after she was doxxed and found to be creepin' on Edie elsewhere on the internet. Or maybe she's still around as an anon, who knows.
>>
>>5707114
think of all the people you'll hurt
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>>5707114
/please/ don't kill yourself, life will get better
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>>5707114
you're not thinking straight right now
just take some more time to think on it
if you still think you need to do it just talk with a professional
please
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>>5707114
i feel you
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>>5707119
>no proof
>>
Febuary 10th never forget
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>>5707120
>she
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>>5707127
/mtfg/'s Darkest Hour
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>>5707101
>>5707092
Scratch that, anon I think has it right, Speonk looks like the closest match
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>>5707119
how can we confirm this?
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>>5707132
no way for us to even know which station it is unless that anon is cheska or something
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>>5707131
Somebody should call and say it might be Speonk.
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>>5707127
> tfw I helped shitpost this degeneracy into oblivion
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>>5707140
let's all just assume somebody else is going to do something about it.
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>>5707142
I'm sure your children will be so proud
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>>5707131
White building matches, it's Speonk for sure no doubt.
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>>5707146
also this photo matches
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Speonk/@40.82117,-72.70427,3a,75y,90t/data=!3m8!1e2!3m6!1s-XFw18CorGPs%2FVVqk24Gs-qI%2FAAAAAAAAAuU%2Fdi7WkFXQiNY!2e4!3e12!6s%2F%2Flh5.googleusercontent.com%2F-XFw18CorGPs%2FVVqk24Gs-qI%2FAAAAAAAAAuU%2Fdi7WkFXQiNY%2Fs203-k-no%2F!7i400!8i255!4m2!3m1!1s0x89e8f621f16810db:0xb60f0e3bb7226fe!6m1!1e1
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does estrogen make any else like ridiculously happy sometimes
i feel like i love literally everyone on earth right now
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>>5707146
No no no, read the sign, that's mastik shirley
You found it though
>>
It's too late.
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>>5707153
not really. but estrogen DOES makes me want to jump in front of a train
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>>5707153
Sounds pretty gay desu
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>>5707146
>>5707154
mastic - shirley
Fuck, typo
I think that's it, does anyone know the number for the police in that area?
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>>5707146
My bad, that picture is Mastic – Shirley (LIRR station) but still, that has to be it.
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>>5707146

you can partially see it here
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Speonk/@40.8210867,-72.7040635,3a,75y,308.67h,74.8t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1snE9M3oLySTYq2R3MSRXZzg!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo3.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DnE9M3oLySTYq2R3MSRXZzg%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D298.06647%26pitch%3D0!7i13312!8i6656!4m2!3m1!1s0x89e8f621f16810db:0xb60f0e3bb7226fe!6m1!1e1
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>>5707154
who's calling it in? record it on vocaroo or something so we know you really did it so we can stop worrying

it should probably be someone who knows what she looks like
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>>5707153
Yes, actually.

...I haven't taken my evening dose yet, maybe I should, tonight hasn't been the happiest night so far.
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>>5707153
Sometimes yeah.
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>>5707156
does that to me sometimes too
>>5707158
i can be pretty gay at times
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>>5707163
I would but I'm actually unable to, somebody please do it.
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>tfw your vision starts swimming very slightly and you have to get up in 5 hours

>>5707153
estrogen is the best antidepressant i've ever ingested
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>>5707153
all the time
>>5707161
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.821137,-72.7040258,3a,75y,295.52h,77.99t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s7c_P0W3vqy1up0IoUF2D-Q!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1

I don't know what she looks like
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>>5707172
I think you mean "cock" when you say "estrogen," friend.
>>
WHO KNOWS WHAT KIWI LOOKS LIKE?

i think this is the local police: (631) 852-8700


call them and tell them and record at least like their first 10 seconds so we know you're for real
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>>5707174
It's Mastic Shirley, not Speonk.

Grace are you still here?
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>>5707119
>implying you're not kiwi
>implying any sane person was ever worried
>>
today is a good day.
>>
Suffolk county police department numbers are here
http://apps.suffolkcountyny.gov/police/phone.htm
Someone in the US please call them
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>>5707179
Yeah, I'm here.
This is her. She might be wearing black glasses too, I don't know if she wears those regularly or not. Her work picture didn't have them so idk.
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does anyone have a picture of kiwi I can tweet to the police?
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>>5707186
we need someone who actually knows what she looks like or what her name is
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>>5707188
Right here >>5707187
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>>5707185
It is. I shitposted. What did you do today, anon? Why was it a nice day?
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>>5707177
i'm literally a translesbian who was saved from suicide by blockers and estradiol

i... may be okay with dicks in general, but if they're not attached to girls then i'm entirely uninterested
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>>5707190
anyone know her real name?
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>>5707187
Please call >>5707178 and tell them she's at the Mastic-Shirley station. It'd be better if you called.
>>
>>5707187
(631) 852-8700 - suffolk county police department

call it in, grace
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>>5707191
just got a comfy amount of sleep, made some coffee and just got to unwind. it's good to relax sometimes.
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>>5707193
Grace you're probably the best bet on this..
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>>5707193
It doesn't matter, somebody in the US please just call. It could only be seconds before the next train arrives, if it hasn't already.
>>
She's alive.
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>>5707204
is she ok?
where is she?
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>>5707187
(631) 852-8700
Mastic Shirley station.

Grace? Call it in before she gets on board, you're a big girl you can do it for her. it'd be extremely painful if we lost her. And why would we want that?
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>>5707204
Police get to her?
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>>5707204
Oh thank God
Did she message you?
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>>5707204
:^)
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>>5707205
>>5707204
>>5707207
>>5707206
>>5707209
She messaged me. Police got her. She's gotta answer some questions right now.
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>>5707204
is the train ok?
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>>5707211
Thanks god...
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>>5707212
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>>5707212
anyone notice that grace is only here when kiwi is and never without?
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>>5707216
I'm never even here in the first place. I gave up on here for the most part.
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>>5707211
Thank god, to whoever phoned it in, you're a fucking saint
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>>5707211
Yay
Give her a big hug for me next time you meet her, ok
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>>5707222
>next time
wew bruh
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>>5707221
Dibs on station finding credit.

>>5707219
Make that two big hugs, and tell her I'm glad she's okay.
>>
>>5707225
three

Even though you guys can be cunts sometimes I secretly love you all

fuck now im crying
>>
Can everyone stop shitposting so much?
Nobody is dying and least of all the usual hoax suspects.
This thread gets more retarded and histrionic with each passing day.
Please think before you do drugs and post at the same time.
Thank you.
>>
>>5707219
Thank fuck.
>>
>>5707228
<3 Cyba
>>
what happened, is this about sheen?
>>
sheen if you're reading this please don't do it on monday or whatever. dont even joke about it please talk to someone about what you're going through someone who's equipped to help you please
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>>5707236
nice reading comprehension, landwhale.
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>>5707232
Sorry, anon. I think I just assisted in saving someone's life, I'm filled my "giving a fuck" quota for the day.
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I'm 7 months on hormones as of 08/02. Whoo
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>>5707232
this place deserve's kayla
>>
>>5707236
nothing happened except emotional manipulation and pity fishing
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>>5707243
Wew, bad time. Adorable though, keep up the good work.
>>
>>5707237
she's got like 5 days to think about it there's no way she'll do it

if she had said she was going to do it tonight, i'd be worried. but 5 days is too long to go without second guessing your decision
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>>5707211
I'm relieved. I'm still worried for her, but at least she is out of immediate danger for now.
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as someone whos lost someone who they really care about to a very similar situation, to everyone involved in what just happened, thank you for doing what you did to prevent her going through with it, you guys are awesome and i love all of you
>>
ok sorry I wasn't reading

we know kiwis safe now?
>>
1/3 saved (for now), today wasn't a total failure!

>Select all images with trains
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>>5707211
WHY DID SHE FEEL LIKE IT

i'm actually concerned

>>5707232
trans women are pretty histrionic with each passing day desu
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>>5707234
<3 Kupps
>>5707243
ur cute
>>5707241
good job anon
>>
>>5707232
Oh look, another chaser here to tell us how we're not acting enough like his fantasy trap gf.
>>
>>5707243
You have lovely hair :)
>>
>>5707255
>WHY DID SHE FEEL LIKE IT
You should ask her yourself.
>>
>>5707241
Sorry memes don't save lives.
>>5707244
>>5707246
>>5707255
I'm going to agree with the anon that said /mtfg/ has run its course and should shut down.
>>
>>5707260
>you don't care about our attentionwhoring bullshit
>you must be a chaser
lol?
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>>5707219
Who called it in?
>>
>>5707260
im not the person you replied to, but it really hurts me to see how negatively a lot of you girls view chasers. we aren't all so bad, please don't paint us with a broad brush.
>>
>>5707267
They had to be CIA
>>
>>5707265
I thought chasers like the stereotypical psychologically damaged qt mtf? Isn't there some sort of brat-tamer kink to it?
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>>5707264
>/mtfg/ has run its course and should shut down.
You're free to leave, desu.
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>>5707269
you're alright in my books, chaser friend.
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>>5707263
rude, i can't because i don't have almost anyone's contact info, no bully, and that doesn't mean i don't care about kiwi

>>5707219
good desu

>>5707264
nah
>>
>>5707260
You're one to talk.
Stop shitposting David don't you have Police questions to answer?
This bull crap is what happens when you tell chasers to transition.
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>>5707267
The suicide pact I just filed with /mtfg/ lists me, my anons, kiwi here, but only one of you! First one to shitpost gets to die with me.
>>
>>5707269
fuck off a girl just nearly died and your in here trying to justify your fucking fetish
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>>5707269
>>
>>5707247
>>5707259
>>5707261
Thank you :)
>>
>>5707275
>rude
It would be pretty rude of me to get into what would drive her to suicide in this thread of all places. That's why I told you to ask her yourself, it'll be safer in a private conversation.
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>>5707269
Most of us don't have a problem with chasers, this just isn't a place for you to chase. It's not /soc/ or some meetup thread, it's a place for trans women to wallow in how ugly we all are.

So yeah it's very frustrating when chasers come in and start telling us how to live and how we should change to make sure their fetish is taken care of.

If you want to chase do it somewhere appropriate.
>>
>>5707271
there's a difference between psychologically damaged and "WAAH MY LIFE SUCKS I'M GOING TO KILL MYSELF BUT FIRST I'LL POST ON /MTFG/ FOR UPVOTES". also they sure as fuck aren't qt.


>>5707279
w2c this shirt?
>>
>>5707269
This isn't a pass to the trap thread backstage ffs. Could you please whine about how oppressed boohoo your chaser ass is at a more appropriate time or are you not enough of a functional human being to do that?
>>
>>5707271
Chasers love going for the ones they can manipulate and force to stay with them out of pity if need be. That sums up Kiwis relationship with Cheska.
>>
>>5707285
http://hellomerch.com/products/have-a-sad-cum-white-t-shirt
get noided
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>>5707277
It doesn't matter who we are, what matters is we're trans.
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>>5707285
lern2google chaser

>>5707289
why
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>>5707289
thx doc
>>
I wish every one in this general was happy
>>
>>5707278
i know i was helping trying to find the train station

>>5707284
im not here to chase im just hanging out
>>
>>5707278
Nobody nearly died if they were posting pictures on here.
>>
>>5707295
i'm 100% happy bruh
>>
>>5707288
who is/was cheska?
>>
>>5707285
Yeah I must admit there's something attractive about traps who are kind of high maintenance/dramatic but I don't think I could handle suicidal drama once a month... I'm glad she's okay, but fuck.

Also is trap offensive? I suppose I'm technically a chaser, but I'm monogamous and into long term relationships so I don't know if that affects my being deemed as one.
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>>5707295
Maybe if you stopped mapping the deep web I'd be able to breathe easy that my freedom isn't under attack by a rogue mechanical superintelligence.
>>
>>5707302
I'm happy that you're happy
>>
>>5707269
Generally when people talk about 'chasers' they aren't talking about all people that are attracted to transgirls, for what it's worth. (At least when they're not joking or trying to stir up some shit.) It's kind of like how 'hon' doesn't really mean any non-passing older transwoman, there's a certain kind of pathological personality that goes with it. Chances are that you're not the sort of guy (or girl? I guess I shouldn't presume) that they're complaining about.
>>
>>5707304
Trap actually hurts my feelings, tranny doesnt.
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>>5707304
>traps
Please fuck off to /femgen/
>>
>>5707295
Same
Yume how'd you do it

>>5707303
Cheska was Kiwi's gf before she transitioned
but then Cheska cheated on Kiwi with a trip from here
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>>5707309
>hating on traps
Its every one of our roots. Dont forget where you came from.
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>>5707304
>trap
Wow, way to woo me there fetishist. Just right off the bat invalidate my whole reason for being here.
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>>5707310
When you fail a suicide attempt in such a way that forces you to believe that there was some reason it didn't work, you really can only go up and up from there my friend. At your lowest point there is only good ahead
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>>5707304
trap is some doujin shit referring to crossdressers, bruh. trannies can't really count as such imo but i'm open to be proven wrong. i mean real talk no matter what you say, you're going to hurt some retards feelings because apparently nobody has thick skin in this shithole.

>>5707306
i'm happy you're happy too. :)
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>>5707307
a girl is more attractive to me if she's trans, isnt that what chaser means
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>>5707308
Okay sorry I won't use it anymore then.
>>5707309
I'll leave if I'm not welcome here, I just don't really know where to ask these things. Sorry.
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>>5707269
Show this guy a picture of sheen and then see him never return. WELCOME TO THE THUNDERDOME BITCH
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>>5707315
Inspirational desu
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>>5707316
A lot of trap stuff is just trans girls playing it up for neet money on 4chan.
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>>5707317
Thats a good question. Are you more attracted to trans girls because you like dick? And you wanna do dick stuff with their gt?
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>>5707311
Fuck off.
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>>5707295
I want everyone to be happy because this general is one of the things keeping me from offing myself. it's nice to know you're not alone sometimes.
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>>5707315
the night is darkest just before the don
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>>5707316
trap means "femboy, passing cross dressing boy, passing transgirl

it means all of those and the term originated on /b/

I consider myself a trap, Bailey Jay used to be called linetrap etc. It's very common for transgirls to refer to themselves as that.
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this has been a long and strange and exhausting night
good night thread
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>>5707326
You first hon.
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>>5707310
for me just being on the right dosage of estrogen made me happy

and cheskas a transgirl too?

are people in this mtfg really offended by "trap"

>>5707317
same but i am trans. i think only other transgirls can truly understand me

>>5707329
i prefer trap to tranny
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>>5707329
>Yume
>Trap
Come on now. Not saying you look bad but you aint no trap.
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>>5707325
i dont know why im more attracted to them i just always have been

and no im not interested in doing anything with their gt
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>>5707290
If I took you off HRT would you die?
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>>5707304
>Also is trap offensive?
>Is calling a woman with gender dysphoria a male crossdresser and fetishist offensive
I'll get back to you with an answer after I'm done crying thanks to you reminding me that I'm a fucking failure, and most of society sees me as either a gay freak or a toy for fetishists.
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>>5707329
>passing transgirl
Really? This is confusing. I'm the anon that asked if "trap" was offensive and everyone seems to have gotten pretty pissed at me for using it. I just want to know what to say because I'm really not interested in insulting anyone or being an ass.
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>>5707336
ya I am desu ne
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>>5707335
Cheska is a transgirl
and idk if people are offended by the word trap, I personally am not, but it seems to be a way to spot a chaser
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>>5707339
Nice opinion.
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>>5707338
It would be extremely shameful.
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is anyone else /mdlg/ here?
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>>5707342
Naw
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I call all qt transgirls traps

If you find it offensive you need to leave 4chan
>>5707347
Me
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>>5707341
yeah in the same way nigger means black person.

the entire point of the word is offense, like think about the etymology for a second.
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>>5707347
im willing to be a daddy dom for a little girl or baby girl
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>>5707329
ya but its kinda lost its meaning since /b/. like literally every idiot calls themselves a 'trap' when they don't even pass to begin with. thats why personally i just see it as a doujin exclusive thing for the most part since thats where people get their brains rotted into believing they can pull it off themselves. im not denying theres still some but its a smaller realistic percentile than people like to think.

>>5707339
calm down bruh
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>>5707303
Kiwi was a chaser that kept a trans girl and forced her to stay with him because she was broke and other reasons. Cheska met another trip and Kiwi went stalker crazy. This gave Cheska enough reason to not feel guilty when she hit it off with Sophie. Kiwi came here as anon and started to harass and attack Cheska for months with private pics and info so she and Sophie left. All the while posting pics of train stations and making multiple fake suicide threats.Then Kiwi starts self medding tried to rape Jocelyn, harassed Jocelyn out of /mtfg/ as anon, pretends to be straight, dates yet another MtF and then the situation as it is now. All of this happened in the last 5 months. Regular attention whoring drama cunts that drop trip to self white knight.
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>>5707336
fuck off
>>5707338
yes, i'd try and succeed at killing myself

>>5707351
tranny is like nigger to me but I honestly like being called a trap sometimes
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>>5707350
yume can't you just call me a girl?
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>>5707335
I dont like trap because of the notion behind it, that you're trapping guys. Creates the notion that trans girls are lesser than bilogical girls. Which hurts, because its true.
Tranny is just a shortened version of literally the scientific word for what i am.
>>5707337
You're probably a chaser i guess idk. I think there should be, like, classifications for chasers. Class 1 chaser is like, a gay guy with catholic parents and hes confused and thinks trans girls are just men, and like class 5 is a typical dude with a fetish for boyish girls that went too far or something
>>5707339
Nice.
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>>5707345
You're a big guy.
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>>5707354
yeah but that's exactly what descriptivist linguistics is, everyone uses it to mean transgirl in general and its mostly used by transgirls so that's what it means. Basic linguistics
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>>5707350
I'll become a qt 4 u
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>>5707361
>not big hon
come the fuck on.
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>>5707361
Th- That's not true...
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>>5707357
Ur a girl and a trap
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MTFG actually stands for Males, Traps, Faggots, Gays
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>>5707304
So the history of trap, so far as I remember, is that it started out with the whole Admiral Akbar meme in reference to shemales / crossdressers / whatever that look female luring in straight guys before revealing their dicks. It's probably not too hard to understand that a reasonable portion of transgirls are not really thrilled with being associated with that. Regardless, it evolved pretty quickly to mainly being a term for passing femboys and possibly pre-transition or very early transition transgirls, especially in the context of 2D porn but also in general. So for that reason as well you'll probably have transgirls that don't feel the term describes them. Again, it varies, some will be okay with it, but in general it's not a good idea to assume that transgirls will like being called that.
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>>5707355
trip on jocelyn. we all know youre the autistic cunt in that story
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>>5707355
holy fucking shit drama
>>5707359
i think i just don't like tranny because the people who use it say it with such hate/disgust.

>>5707357
i'll call you a girl if i can remember to.
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stop taking words so seriously how insecure in yourself do you have to be to let a term describe you

Trap is the most qt term in existence y'all is niggers
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>>5707329
traps do pass well
so, yume thinks it's cool to be called a trap
hahaha, what a retard

>>5707341
yup, it's derogatory to trans mtf like "dickgirl"

>>5707373
this
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>>5707339
I'm sorry that a simple and honest question has made you this upset.

>>5707351
Yeah I can see how etymologically the word is offensive, but given how much it's come into various uses, I thought it may have become interchangeable with other addresses. But clearly there is no consensus.
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>>5707370
yume please just say i'm a girl and nothing but a girl, please. i want this penis gone, i want srs so bad sometimes i wish i could do it myself.

i want a pussy more than anything and i want you to fuck that pussy.

please yume, i'm just a girl and nothing else.
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>>5707376
There's a lot of drama here
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>>5707378
:3 I doo
>>5707380
Is this hailey?
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btw i don't know where to post this stuff but i used to use it to argue on reddit
(1/2)

Paul McHugh
http://www.glaad.org/cap/paul-mchugh
http://www.transadvocate.com/clinging-to-a-dangerous-past-dr-paul-mchughs-selective-reading-of-transgender-medical-literature_n_13842.htm
http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0016885

Studies on brain structure:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2754583/
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7477289
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21618223
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10843193
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11826131
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15724806
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16140461
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16870186
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17765230
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18056697
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18980961
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18962445
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19341803
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20562024
http://cercor.oxfordjournals.org/content/18/8/1900.abstract
http://www.eje-online.org/content/155/suppl_1/S107
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v378/n6552/abs/378068a0.html
http://press.endocrine.org/doi/full/10.1210/jcem.85.5.6564

A short video explanation:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOY3QH_jOtE#t=1h23m52s
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>>5707377
100% this. Yall need to lighten the fuck up.
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>>5707362
for sure but youve gotta recognize how incorrect it is on a higher level. like personally i dont give a shit what people call themselves but if an ugly hon tries to flaunt their nasty ass body and calls themselves a trap, i'm not going to hesitate to call them out on their shit, you know? like i just look at words as their literal meaning.

>>5707372
>not manchild to freak
step it up.
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>>5707383
And you all fall for it and feed it every time.
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>>5707372
I say faggot a lot. Like, just in general day to day life. Idk why, but my friends think I'm rude.
>>5707376
What if i use it as a term of endearment? Hey, i love you my tranny. Come over here and watch x files with me, you fuckin tranny, itll be fun.
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>>5707373
Thanks. This is very helpful.

Just to give you guys some context (if anyone cares), I've been seeing a trans girl and I really don't want to fuck this up. It's my first serious relationship and I'm really scared that I'm gonna say something retarded and ruin things.
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>>5707377
Agreed.
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nevermind i just uploaded it to here

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B031ssZNHyY7SlAyUndYdnlLZEU/view?usp=sharing
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>>5707393
thats a whole other fucking story. just treat her like a cis girl, bruh. some trannies are eggshells that cant cope with being reminded that they're a tranny. muh dysphoria.

>>5707394
LITERALLY me.
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>>5707362
just because i don't freak out and get "triggered" when i hear a word, doesn't mean i have to enjoy being called it. and it doesn't mean it doesn't hurt me.

fastest ways to turn me off and never get in my pants:
>call me a trap
>call me a tranny
>call me a shemale
>say you'll fuck my boypussy
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>>5707393
Maki go away.
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Transitioning has been a slow descent into madness.

I'm quite literally losing my mind. I mean, I'm used to emotionality since I had a 'doglike' honest, expressive personality until university levelled me out, but I've never had a long-term, unfixable reason to be depressed. The good always outweighed the bad, and both were always fleeting, so it didn't really matter anyway.

But now... now, a year and a half in, I've lost all hope and my lifelong dreams have been shattered. Aside from some extra *bonus* emotionality and some minor breast growth / fat redistribution (like I had much to redistribute anyway), nothing really changed. Same old maleish body in the mirror, same old future. Just with a more radiant, healthy coat of skin and much less in the way of hair (from electrolysis).

I mean, I could get an augmentation, but that won't fix my boxy shoulders or my lack of hips.

> 5'9", 27" waist, 30" underbust, 34" hips, 32" bust (measured properly with the buttocks, and most of it is just ass), average shoulders for a woman, but boxy.
> 100% passable face.

Eugh. I'm seriously starting to lose it. I've just had misfortune after misfortune in my life, and the only damn thing I ever truly wanted is unattainable. It's not like I could ever get a proper boyfriend or anything anyway, not with this grotesque body.

I feel like ending it. No surgery will give me hips. No surgery will give me a moderately-sized chest that looks and feels real. No surgery will fix these shoulders. I have money that I earned by working my ass off, but what use is it when it can't fix anything?
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>>5707388
taking all words literally is not what language is about lol
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>>5707377
Trap implies I'm a boy though. I'm not. I'm not usually one to get hung up on stuff like this but I don't like someone calling me a term that means I'm not a girl.
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>>5707392
It isn't endearing coming from a cis male trying to appropriate medically defined gender dysphoria.
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>>5707383
That's why I like /mtfg/. This thread makes me feel quite sane and it helps me accepting the fact that my life is actually better than that of almost every transwoman...
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>>5707394
That first panel is retarded to read
>>5707399
Shemale hurts so much
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>>5707404
Trap only implies what you want it to imply.
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Basically those who dont like being called a trap are those digging deep in the delusion hole.
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>>5707408
That goes for any word Captain Deconstruction. Yes I did just learn about that in college today. If I want to give any word any meaning I feel like what is the point of language at all?
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>>5707404
You're not even on HRT but how about we meet in the middle and call you hon.
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grace wants me to thank you so
t-thanks, i guess
i'm home now and going to bed
sorry for the trouble
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>>5707377
I happen to think it's cute too, but I understand why many others don't like it and don't think they're wrong to feel that way either. (Although you're wrong, the cutest is definitely 男の娘.)
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>>5707414
I hope you feel better. I'm glad that you didn't do anything.
Have a good sleep.
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>>5707413
>You're not even on HRT
5 weeks this Friday.
>how about we meet in the middle and call you hon.
Fine with me, hon.
>>5707414
I'm glad you're home safe and sound Kiwi, sleep tight and please start feeling better.
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>>5707398
>treat her like a cis girl
That's the plan, but I still feel the need to be careful with my choice of words, obviously.

>>5707400
I don't know what this means.

>>5707404
Hypothetically though, couldn't be also seen as flattering because it's acknowledging that you have zero visible remaining traits of your assigned sex, i.e. you pass wonderfully?
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>>5707414
I'm glad you're okay, Kiwi
Just get a good sleep, ok
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>>5707412
The whole point of language is to assert power over other human beings. Twisting the meaning of words to fit your goals definitely falls within that scope.
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>>5707414
Fuck off holy shit.
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>>5707405
>>5707406
Basically these. Call me a tranny, sure. I'm a transexual. Call me a trap? Fuck you, I'm not a trap.

If one of my other trans girl friends calls me a tranny, I don't care. It's like nigger for black people in a way. But if a cis male is calling me a tranny he can fuck off, that just hurts.

I don't want any boyfriend that thinks he needs to come up with a seperate classification to describe me instead of just "girl", "woman", "female."
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>>5707405
Yea maybe less endearing coming from someone without perspective. But idk i dont wanna be that person whos like "thats our word". I feel like, actually, the words arent offensive, the context they are used in is. Being sensitive and crying any time someone uses a word you dont like is bratty and stupid.
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>>5707414
if you ever do something like this again, post a picture with easier location identifiers
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>>5707355
>>5707376
kiwi plowed cheska for about 5 years w his big dick

cheska cheated on kiwi a few times and he still didn't leave her

it was only when cheska ran off with sophie that the relationship ended

kiwi literally found out by reading abby's post that sophie had texted her that their budding online thing was not going to happen

kiwi did imply suicide with the train station pic gimmick

someone did post some creep shots of cheska looking like a landwhale

kiwi decides to start tripping here

the kiwi jocelyn meetup for sex was a ruse, but jokes on joc b/c kiwi wanted at least some head, and this is how the rape myth started

buns/shay is also another cancerous individual that was part of this group
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>>5707420
>couldn't be also seen as flattering because it's acknowledging that you have zero visible remaining traits of your assigned sex
When you put it like that, however it means I'm biologically a boy which I don't like being reminded of.
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>>5707404
>>5707399
Trap means what you want it to mean because that's how language works. The trans community has taken the word and made it our own
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>>5707414
Glad to see you're okay, try and get some sleep.
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>>5707431
Pretty much, I like to make trap jokes about myself with my friends.
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>>5707403
i mean i don't mean every word in a literal sense, but there's a few words that are just like "hang the fuck on, retard. that's just outright incorrect." usually i only feel that way about titles/names for shit.

>>5707412
language is for communication and expression, hows someones preference to use words in a different meaning on a personal level devalue the point of language in any way?

>>5707420
treating her like a cis girl is how you flatter her. as people have been saying, some people find 'trap' offensive, so it's better to just not do it.
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>>5707422
Are you sure the point of language wasn't communication?
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>>5707428
Okay fair enough. Best to avoid it altogether I suppose.
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>>5707436
But the fact that it's used by such a large number of people who are trans to refer to themselves, that's what it means by virtue of so many people believing it so
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nothing wrong with the word trap in this humble chaser's opinion
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>>5707427
k
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>>5707431
>The trans community has taken the word and made it our own
You mean you have, the trans community isn't a hive mind. Some people just don't like it for very valid reasons, and I don't see why we should respect girls enough to just not call them derogatory words they don't like being called.

If you don't mind being called a trap, and gem doesn't mind you calling her a trap, then more power to you both. But it hurts me, and I'd really appreciate not being called a trap.

If you don't want to respect that it's your call, but it's still going to hurt me.
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>>5707445
Relax my trap friend.
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>>5707442
This. Also for the record, no one in femgen uses trap to describe themselves. It's evolved into a wholly trans-term.
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>>5707401
how old are you?
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>>5707443
I think this post affirms that theres something wrong with the phrse trap
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>>5707440
Probably. You can always just ask if there's any words you should avoid. In my case, don't treat me like a boy or call me one and we'll get along fine.
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>>5707447
I am relaxed, or well, I'm already so miserable that you trying to antagonize me doesn't do much.

But you're certainly not helping me feel less like I want to die.
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Who all here posts or has posted on https://www.reddit.com/r/traps/

I bet many of you have.
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>>5707448
>It's evolved into a wholly trans-term.
Other than all the people who use it for what they like to jerk off too I guess.
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>>5707453
Sorry I just couldnt help but set up the trap, trap. We're all traps here. Trappy trappy trap trap trap.
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>>5707445
Not the whole community, but not just us either. There is a very large number of people who view it that way which makes it so by virtue
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>>5707454
>reddit
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>>5707454
there was a strawpoll way back that showed around 30% had posted in /r/girlsindiapers, which is ironic since trans girls aren't allowed to post in that subreddit anymore

i don't recall there being a poll for /r/traps, but i'm sure it's a similar percentage, if not a higher one
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>>5707449
23. There were a bunch of facial changes, but in terms of my body, basically nothing changed except for hair and skin tone. Didn't have much muscle to begin with, but what was there melted.

I'm 118" lbs~, so yeah, underweight.
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>>5707457
And yet it doesn't change the fact that it hurts me.
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>>5707369
Was getting insulted part of your plan?
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>>5707392
you can use it i guess

I just wish I was a normal girl so I didn't have to deal with this hate and shit.

>>5707407
and boypussy like wtf

>>5707414
stay safe kiwi
>>5707415
what does that mean?

>>5707424
actually this
>>5707427
thanks
>>5707454
i haven't but i might. my brother and sister use reddit though
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>>5707460
>Contrarian
One day someone might find you cool oddish. Probably.
>>
i want to be a cuddleslut
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>>5707454
I've posted my tits elsewhere on 4chan a few times but never on reddit
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>>5707442
Trans is just a word that any guy can call them self just like the word Trap and the word Woman. There is nothing anyone can do to stop them. But they don't get to decide the experience or self describing words used by other people either.
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>>5707454
Gross, they're all 3D 'n shit; the only good trap is a 2D trap.
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>>5707466
Thatd be cool i guess
>>5707465
Sorry senpai. Just the way it is. I get sad about it sometimes too, but getting sad about it doesnt change anything. So, i just keep going.
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>>5707454
*raises hand
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>>5707471
>you will never have a straight 2d trap and mother him tenderly
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>>5707462
my body dimensions and weight are exactly like yours but I'm 5'6 and 6 months and 21. hopefully my hips haven't fused otherwise I'll probably end it... like I wasn't already
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>>5707464
Of coursh.
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>>5707461
for some reason seeing that we cant post there makes me sad
>>5707466
i like her
>>5707467
cuddle plz
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>>5707477
>hopefully my hips haven't fused
Wait, what?
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>>5707424
Okay I don't disagree with anything you've said. So how do you feel about your genitals, assuming you haven't had SRS. What do you prefer to call them?
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>>5707479
I like oddish too. I simply would never trust her. You'll see why if you lurk long enough.
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>>5707466
>dislike reddit is a contrarian opinion on 4chan
hahahah
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>>5707483
>still thinking going to what websites matter in this the year two thousand and sixteen
Even your mom uses 4chan. sekret clubs are over.
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>>5707480
hips bones fuse (stop being able to grow) 21-25 years


Response Votes Percent
Yes 326 47.1%
No 366 52.9%

^that sucks

>>5707482
why don't you trust her? I don't trust anyone. Its actually a problem in my relationships
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>>5707479
>i like her
Cyba i like you too ;_;
With all the persona rotating that goes on in mtfg i feel like an old, washed up thirty something girl surrounded by new, younger faces.
>>5707482
What did i do to you or anyone that makes me untrustworthy
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>>5707477
I hope so for your own sake. I don't wish this torment on anyone else.

It's nothing but constant leaping between heart-wrenching despair and being emotionally drained and robotic. My heart can't take it, and every time I count my blessings, they count fewer, and my curses, plentiful.

Literally losing my mind. I give me another six months, at best, before I jump in front of a train.
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>>5707481
Preferably just don't call them anything, but I mean. Genitals works. Or penis. I won't get mad at someone for saying I have a penis, my penis does a great job of constantly reminding me of it's presence and making me mad as is.

But penis works, because that's what it is. If you say I have a penis, you're right. If you say I am a trap you're wrong and you're belittling me.
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>>5707487
>hips bones fuse (stop being able to grow) 21-25 years
Wait what. I'm 20 and literally just ordered mones, is there still hope for me to get wider hips?
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>>5707480
>>5707487
Meme biology. Don't put any stock in to it.
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>>5707495
There is a chance
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would you guys post nude, lewd, and crude to reddit if your siblings use it? I wanna post there.

>>5707490
this

>>5707495
there is hope
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>>5707465
Otoko no Ko: It's a play on words that doesn't really translate well, but 男の子 (otoko no ko) is a common word meaning "boy" (literally "male child"), while 男の娘 (otoko no ko) is pronounced the same way but the different character changes the meaning to something like "male girl" or "male daughter". The closest equivalents in English are probably trap or femboy, it sort of covers both.
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>>5707499
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>>5707495
Hons at age 50 say their hips grow with mones so anything is possible.
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>>5707502
cool
>>5707505
yeah exceptions to every rule
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>>5707495
Technically maybe. I started just before i turned 20, but i dont think my hip bones have actually changed. That said, they were already slightly wide before i started. >>5707501
When i wanna be nude online i just send out my kik on /soc/. I really dislike reddit tho. If you dont mind it, why not?
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>>5707505
Hons at age 50 will say that Fenugreek grew them a vagina.
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>>5707485
My boyfriend won't post here, he constantly hints at wanting me to stop posting here. He's convinced it's a toxic enviroment and turns anyone who posts here into a troll.
In my eyes anonymity is the the only way to give your honest opinion without being hated.
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>>5707495
Bones will probably change a bit. Fat distribution will definitely be a thing.

Also hips are weird and distribution in the middle is a lot more common than people think so you might already be lucky in a way.
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>>5707507
The rule is delusional BS the exception is mones make your skeleton even a fraction female.
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>>5707512
>He's convinced it's a toxic environment
He's not wrong.
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How discreet is AllDayChemist packaging? I really don't need a box coming to the door that just says, "YOUR SON IS A FAILURE"
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>>5707504
>tfw /frz/ is kill
I didn't expect to feel this feel tonight
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>>5707514
List me the actual points of dimorphism and the reason these points of dimorphism exist.

This will be graded.
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>>5707511
I hope that means you get it.
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>>5707517
I haven't even seen it, just saved that one picture.
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>>5707516
I wanna self med but I'm terrified of my parents intercepting it

they're always asking me what I get in the mail and shit
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>>5707516
that's what it says
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>>5707516
Its very discreet. Theres no labels, that said:
I came out to my family because i started self medding and i ordered from adc, and when my meds came, my mom picked them up for me, saw they were from india and opened up my package. So, she saw no labels, just a crazy lady with a grudge against packages from india. Be careful.
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>>5707512
At least you weren't around for the passer bullies
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What weight should I aim for? I'm 115 lbsish, and 5'8". Keeping in mind that all my muscle melted off of me, how many pounds should I be stacking on and maintaining?
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>>5707521
Mine have never opened one of my packages (I order a lot of them which is handy), but I really don't need the first one they do open to be hormones. It's one thing to open a package and go, "Oh, he bought a comic book."
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>>5707515
I tried to post on the reddit trans board but it told me I needed karma. Site literally demands you whore out for upvotes before you can post on its transboard. Where Im positive Id immediately lose all my karma if I did get it because I won't hugbox people.
Ill post on 4chan where if some one doesnt pass I can tell them and instead of getting kicked off the board I just have everyone hating me instead.

>>5707525
As in people bullying passers or passers bullying nonpassers? Ive been on every side of that equation at some point.
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>>5707520
I guess it's not super relevant, but a lot of the time someone would say >tfw you'll never be Elsa
and then it'd turn out there are half a dozen actual trannies lurking and the thread would turn into mtfg - Frozen edition
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>>5707532
people bullying passers
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sometimes when im in bed ill pretend i have a gf and mime giving her headpats while she's asleep

should i kill myself lol
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>>5707510
i think mine have but i might be wrong
>>5707511
or how eating certain foods boosted their estrogen *sigh*
>>5707512
yet you post the same character in every post
>>5707513
this
>>5707516
it will just say alldaychemist on it
>>5707524
your mom is a felon now you can blackmail her
>>5707526
im 5'10 and purposefully went from 135 (perfect fit male) to 150 while on hormones so the fat went to the right places. it works yo. stretch marks are all over tho.
>>5707528
if your parents open your mail move out or tell them to stop. fuck that.
>>5707532
i like that rule because a lot of people from the trans hate subs (yes these actually exist) kept telling us we were delusional freaks, kill ourselves, etcetera
>>5707536
as in elanna
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>tfw helping a straight femboy degenerate into a transbian
<3
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>>5707525
>past tense
Kayla still posts
>>5707532
I have all these problems and more with reddit. Its soooo bad. I dont undertand the appreciation.
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>>5707542
i hope kayla gets help
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>>5707539
Elanna's not the first one anons/kayla-with-trip-off try to drive out.
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>>5707539
>5'10"
like everyone is
but I passed it by an inch :/

>>5707542
Least she has shut for now
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>6'2"
>17-18" shoulders
>38" waist
Wew.
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>>5707356
>i'd try and succeed at killing myself
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Its 3am now. I work at 1pm. I have to leave at 12pm. Can i afford to sleep now?
>>5707541
Gods work
>>5707539
I'm not gonna blackmail my mom. Wee have a decent relationship, and it ended up being for the better that she found out. She put me on her insurance immediately.
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>>5707553
yes.
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>>5707521
I just kept telling mine it was computer parts the one time my dad brought it up for me he told me to stop wasting money on legos
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>>5707549
cuz i have guns and know what im doing lol
i guess i would be very masculine in that i would succeed
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>>5707536
*shrug* shit happens, even Sarina has a few stay anons claiming she's an unpassable hon/man when she gets posted here. If Sarina can't escape that then the rest of us are doomed.

>>5707539
People are going to tell you that you're a delusional freak for the rest of your life, it will never go away. Id rather take the shitposting with the honesty than no shitposting with all hugboxing.
Also I really don't, I post anon with no avatar all the time.
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>>5707553
>Its 3am now. I work at 1pm. I have to leave at 12pm. Can i afford to sleep now?
I'm going to bed in an hour and I have the same schedule, except it's 4am here.
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>>5707541
>tfw friends with a gay boy who often complains about not being a cute girl but never does anything about it
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>>5707558
share them
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>>5707561
I sleep like a brick is all. I'll try i guess.
>>5707558
Cyba where do you live? I was thinking australia at first but they dont have guns i thought?
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>>5707563
>tfw you were once that gay boy
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>>5707566
>I sleep like a brick is all. I'll try i guess.
Same, set 5 alarms with 1 minute apart. Put the phone across the room.

I don't start considering skipping sleep unless there is only 1 hour or less.
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>>5707559
They were bullying them on the basis that they passed
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>>5707563
>tfw you were that friend except practically-speaking asexual and never opened up about wanting to be a girl to anyone
Okay so I wasn't much like him but really go make him get over his procrastination and try HRT already, I know I'd have appreciated that back when it would have made a difference for me.
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Can sex just not be a thing, I don't want to be trans, I don't want guys to feel like they can just touch me, I don't want to feel depressed when my gf isn't intimate with me, I don't want to worry about other people getting hurt over it

Or like everyone could just go and die, that'd be ok too
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>>5707553
i was just joking. my mom found my meds too and it ended up being a good thing. supportive parents mean the world to girls like us
>>5707559
they should have a throwaway account mode like 4chin
>>5707561
yes
>>5707563
get him 'mones
>>5707564
i will. I am going to build an ar15 and buy a 3d printer in the future and try to design gun parts that work with it like defense distributed did.
http://fosscad.org/fc/

>>5707566
southern minnesota. in the medical capitol of the world. saudis/ presidents/etc come for healthcare and buy out the entire mall.
>>5707573
this
>>5707574
you'd fit in in Japan
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What is going to happen to Kiwi? Will she be admitted?
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where do you live oddish?
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>>5707577
I don't know. I hope somebody is watching out for her, in any case.
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>>5707576
Woaaah thats weird you are american. I've never been to minnesota but I've always thought of my homestate montana and minnesota like....cousins?
I live in texas right now.
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>>5707580
Well she apparently had to answer some questions with the police
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found the next thread's title picture
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>>5707574
/acegen/
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>>5707567
>>5707573
He alternates between saying it's just a lewd fantasy and saying he can't do it 'cause he lives at home and has no independence.
I've asked him about dysphoria and he said he usually doesn't feel it because he tries not to think about it often.
It just sounds so familiar and I want to encourage him to work through his feelings but I don't want to push him away
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>>5707583
"I'm Danny devito?" T. Mugi
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>>5707583
DEEEEANDRA
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>>5707572
Yeah, I get that. If you go to a trans support group irl the same thing will happen, it stems from jealousy as far as I can tell.

>>5707576
I still feel the upvote/karma system on reddit will cause it always to be hugboxing, if anyone complimented me or said I passed on reddit Id immediately assume they were just doing it for upvotes. Iunno how throw away accounts work, I've been to reddit like three times in my life, 4chan has been my internet home since like 2008- maybe that's why I have a shit personality.
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>>5707593
Chawlie
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>>5707588
>he said he usually doesn't feel it because he tries not to think about it often.
Raise your hand if you tried this strategy, /mtfg/.
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>>5707594
I don't get the point of hate jealously
Sure I get jealous at people who look cute but I don't hate them, I aspire to be like them
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>>5707581
why is it weird?
We should both move to portland like trutrans
>>5707594
they are accounts that you just use once
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>>5707593
You know whats stupid? Every time danny devito is mentioned i hear him saying this in my head. Not.because of always sunny, but because jontron said it in an episode of sonic 06 once and I've seen the entire playthrough a dozen times.
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>>5707594
You have a serious problem with assuming people always have the worst motivations.
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how do I get my gf to admit that I'm not as attractive as she says I am?
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>>5707598
If you'll have me. You dont like minnesota?
>>5707602
I have the same problem. So do many trans people. Thats the way of the internet.
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>>5707596
Too many times...
Though it did help me get through being stuck on a waitlist for a year
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>>5707596
my life before transition
>>5707597
broken ppl
>>5707602
she's spent too much time on 4chan then
>>5707604
stop trying. she probably thinks you are attractive and this self doubt is annoying her
>>5707606
i need trans friends irl and you seem cool af... too many ppl here know me. I want to dissapear and be a born again portland trutrans. also my sister lives a couple miles outside of portland
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>>5707611
>tfw you order a coffee and the guy says "here you go hon"
;_;
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>tfw trimming my nails because I'm about to put them in my muhfuggin buuuuuuuuuuuuuuutt
Recommend me a dildo please I need one, something small like 5-7 inches. 8 max. More realistic the better.
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>>5707618
>What's your name?
>G-er, [boy name here]
>[Boy name]!
>wince and get my frappuccino
I wanna be fulltime already
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>>5707597
Desire to be the prettiest/most passable person there, which probably stems from the desire to be special. If I can make them feel like shit they'll go away and I can be alpha tranny. It's kind of retarded here because there's always gonna be a more passable trip than you. Should I play Fable 1 or work on sewing up my blanket? Im leaning on sewing, Im just not in a vidya mood atm.

>>5707598
Hm.
Also from what I can tell Oregon is like Washington's retarded younger sibling. I have my eyes set on Seattle, Ill make it to hipster mecca one day, I swear.

>>5707602
When people argue they often aren't trying to convince the other person- they're simply trying to win the argument. However, the best way to win the argument is to consider it from the othr persons perspective and question why they're saying what they say. In order to convince people you need to understand why they do what they do, and peoples motivations are always selfish in my experience. I don't assume people have the worst motivations, I observe it.

>>5707606
That's the way of life. We live in a moral society that demands we all be nice and get along with eachother, so instead of facing our primal selfish desires we pretend they don't exist and and claim we're nice to eachother because we are nice when in reality we only do it for social acceptance.
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>>5706759
Never forgive the jews for this heinous crime
>tfw jewish uncle gave me the snip
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>>5707630
male genital mutilation should be banned. its so terrible.
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>>5707623
>tfw Im a lowly wage slave barista and I "sir" trannies all the time
Living in a liberal haven city sure is fun
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHi0dTDR5p0

>>5707634
douche
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>>5707633
Their lust for baby flesh cannot be sated
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>>5707634
Are you the anon earlier who's been on hrt for like 7 months?
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>>5707637
That interaction at :55 is COMPLETELY mtfg in a nutshell
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>>5707634
nice.
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>>5707641
Oh my god it's perfect
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>>5707640
No I'm just a bitter cunt and they're always hons anyway
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>>5707645
You should try and relax, it's not good for your blood pressure to be like that.
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Tfw no onii-chan
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>>5707655
>tfw never got to be a big sister
It sucks pretty bad when I think about that but maybe going forward I can still try to fill that role.
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>stop trying.
Never!! She says I pass and stuff but I don't even look like a girl and she must pay for this.
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>>5707604
ill never admit it, cause you really are attractive, you're just a sillybutt
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>>5707662
I am not!!! You are blind!
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Goodnight /mtfg/
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Elanna is gone now :(
I should follow suit and get away from this shithole
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>>5707667
Don't let the frostbite bite
>>5707668
I think this place has done me more good than harm. It is rough on the trips sometimes though...
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>>5707668
Run
Leave while you still can
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>>5707669
It's less the place and less the people.
People who are mostly being driven out by the general deliberate nastiness of this shithole.
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>>5707668
if you go angie who will I meme with?
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>>5707672
I meant less the place and more the people
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>>5707673
me ;)
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>>5707670
Is Elanna leaving the bullying you were talking about? I don't want Elanna to be gone, I wish I had her contact info so I could try to talk to her.
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>>5707669
I've made two good friends, one of them was so fearless, it got me over my fear of being trans, it's pretty ok
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>>5707676
idk if she's leaving forever but she'll be leaving for a while
She is apparently still going to be in the IRC so you can contact her there
>>
I can see why trans people don't like accessing non-gender clinic related health services as people lie through their teeth about policy and treat you like shit and all you can do is sit there, nod, and take it.
>>
>>5707643
>tfw size 11
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>>5707673
This was never about the memes.
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>>5707676
The Elanna scares easy but she'll be back. And in greater numbers.
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>>5707680
>tfw size 9
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>>5707680
>tfw size 12.5
>tfw you accidentally get the same boots as a friend and it makes you realize how huge your feet are
>>
>>5707684
fuck you :)
>>
>>5707684
Size 9 reporting
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>>5707684
size 8 reporting in
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>>5707680
me too
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>>5707675
we must bring Angie to ausland
>>5707681
I forgot, sorry I'll let you go back to posting anime reaction pictures now
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>>5707697
>we must bring Angie to ausland
she can visit sheens grave
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>>5707684
Bitch!
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>>5707697
i will be #1 hon.
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>>5707699
e p i c
p
i
c
>>5707701
>it's over anakin I have the highground
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>>5707702
b-b-b-b-but mythbusters said that highground doesn't gain you any benefit!!!!
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>>5707703
Did they really say that?
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>>5707704
their star wars special.
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>>5707703
myth [BUSTED]
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>>5707707
Surely the highground gives some sort of benefit

>>5707708
Hi Gem
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>>5707710
actually it just made it easier to be hit in the ankles at first.
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>>5707703
>>5707704
>>5707707
>>5707708
>>5707710
yes I puush my own posts on /tv/
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>>5707712
oh
I was thinking in the terms of war not one on one battles
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>>5707715
it's exclusively in reference to the scene in the star wars movie.
in battle, yes, it would be a benefit.
>>
http://www.popsugar.com/moms/Best-Birth-Photos-Ever-Taken-40072143#photo-40072143
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>>5707719
gross
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>>5707719
luckily I'm such a garbage person that even if I could bare children I wouldn't want to subject them to my parenting
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>>5707710
hey
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>>5707723
What's up?
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>>5707724
I'm feeling shitty and dysphoric

how about you
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>>5707726
I'm ok, I guess. I have homework to do :/

>Feeling shitty and dysphoric
What's wrong?
;~;
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>>5707710
>t. Alexander I 5 minutes before Austerlitz
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>>5707726
:(
Anything you want to talk about?
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>>5707728
because an average twelve year old boy would probably have bigger boobs then me

im also really tired but I dont want to go to bed considering im going right back to another six day work week so I'm cleaning the apt and just ruminating on how shitty I feel

I know I shouldnt care about my chest so much but being so flat just shows off my man like frame
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>>5707735
If it bothers you and you have finished growing, are you going to buy boobs
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>>5707735
>average twelve year old boy
Only the fat ones
Don't feel sad Gem please, you're a very nice girl and I hate to see you like this
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>>5707735
Really? Your chest and not your face?
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>>5707741
Die
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>>5707741
her face is fine duderino
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>>5707745
>>5707745
>>5707745
New
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>>5707737
I've considered it before but it'd look retarded if I got implants on a boy chest

I dont particularly want to have fake boobs either

>>5707738
the skinny ones probably have the same chest as me though

>>5707741
oh yeah

I forgot how much I hate that sometimes too
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>pass all the time
>but not to myself
>did ffs
>finally pass to myself

seriusly guys dont underestemate forhead reconstruction it changes everything on your face.
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