Lets talk about manly things such as:
>professional life in the office work being a masculine male who is gay
>our family life (including partner/bf life)
>hobbies that are not of a feminine nature
>technological advances in the gay community (artificial genetic binding of male egg and male sperm, etc.)
>vacation spots where camping and being a masculine man is prevalent
>metallurgy, carpentry,smithing, and other manly works
>cars and car works
>any gay masculine male political debates (not feminine rainbows and dragqueen displays of rights, but actual masculine gay male responses to government and social acceptance on a rational and respectable platform.)
Anything more that can be added that defines what it is to be a masculine gay male in society today is appreciated.
Smithing is pretty cool profession.
Now I want to be a horseman smith.
Femmies actually believe this. Next you'll be telling me that being feminine is the default of gay men. If you're masculine you're over compensating and denying your feminine qualities that is the true and real gay man way. Go fuck yourself fairy. People can be masculine naturally and not have to act like a feminine fairy. Don't get me wrong there are feminine acting gay men, but not all gay men are feminine. You seem to forget that and assume that masculine gay men are homophobic in nature.
Being gay has nothing to do with being feminine and having feminine mannerisms. Being gay is having sex with other men. That's it man. No if ands or buts about it.
I don't look masculine at all but I act it.
Just don't parade your sexuality and act like a woman. I do it because I like to demand respect in my life, and it works. However, i found that I looked better when i rolled with a little femininity, than when i tried to make myself look masculine.
All in all though, it's autistic as fuck to even care. Gay people are retards, you think straights argue over this petty shit lmao
sooner seem like a tryhard at not caring than a tryhard who has to try to be super masculine OR feminine because of his weird little insecurities.
this is not a real world problem, this is some weird niche problem.
>you think straights argue over this petty shit lmao
They do just with other things in heterosexual life. They argue over tons of petty shit, man.
>health of human race
plz, there are far healthier ways to be healthy.
>lifting weights is neither a masculine or a feminine hobby since women also lift weights
By that line of reasoning, literally nothing is masculine or feminine, up to and including having certain genitalia. Even identifying as a man isn't masculine, because some people later changed their mind, thus a woman identified as a man.
>By that line of reasoning, literally nothing is masculine or feminine, up to and including having certain genitalia. Even identifying as a man isn't masculine, because some people later changed their mind, thus a woman identified as a man.
Now you're starting to understand. It took you a long time.
Who masc4fem dom top masterrace here?
Twinks need a real man to put them in their place
I can deadlift 575 for 8 reps fuckboy, my T levels are twice the average mans
Dominating pretty things is natural, wanting to put your dick in a hairy ass is borderline mental illness
>act masc to erase suspicion
>secretly find all that stuff hot
>oh no there's a MascGen trying to start up again
>i know lets post feminine pictures and talk about feminine twinks etc. that should destroy the thread.
It's like feminine gay men are so bored with their lives they have to actively go out and destroy anything that isn't part of their personality.
Super catty bitches, in all honesty.
>I'm masc gay and I exclusively like twinks
Then you are Bi in denial. They look exactly like women except they don't have a vagina. What is the difference? I bet you used to be Bi and "decided" to be gay because you prefer boypussi.
Like Chris Crocker. Handsome when dressed as a man with facial hair, but ugly as a girl and annoying.
he may be attractive as a man, but total feminine mannerisms. Definitely can't judge a picture by it's content.
He's so disgusting. This is not masculine in any way.
No crocker is best crocker. Understand?
Genetics. Or Steroids
Yeah. That's the hardest part, but if you want to grow a beard you'll have to deal with it.
I'm currently in that stage again because I had a couple of job interviews two weeks ago, to which I decided to go clean shaved.
It looks pretty terrible at this point, but well, you've got to be patient.
Twink reporting in
You're not forsaking us and leaving us with the trannies, fuck you. we're all gay men, separating and accusing everyone else of being a tranny means the trannies win.
Keep in mind that I just said it looks good enough, I know very well it's not the best beard out there.
This is the difference between about a week and a half of no shaving (iirc) and about 4 weeks without shaving.
I can't really grow a full beard (My hopes are still up because I'm only 21), but I like how the goatee area looks, and a lot of people told me I look better with it.
Why is this thread funny to you? What are you a fairy?
You could always take hormones to increase your genetic potential towards a masculine physique.
yeah, I kinda lucked out in that regard with genetics. A big part of my family is super white blond polish people with practically no body hair at all.
But then some spanish and italian genes came to the mix and as a result I got a satyr body
>tfw smooth upper body and hairy ass
no one ever expects it
Sounds like your body is suppressing the testosterone involved in facial hair and body hair growth. You could get that fixed by going to a doctor and requesting testosterone supplements to raise it safely enough to aid in your efforts. There are places that help such as NuMale
but if they arent' in your area you could go to a common physician about the ordeal.
Well there's your problem. Everyone knows Germans have a trouble growing facial hair.
I'm staying here sweetie i detransitioned. My name is phil now but im still taking estrogen because i dont want acne
You're right, I'm the only thing that's masculine.
If anything this thread is gayer still because of the concept that homosexuality is performative. By choosing not to perform as such your sexuality is more pronounced in its defiance
k, stay here if you must, but only talk of masculine things and post only masculine men.
i really like the idea of this general, i hope you guys will be successful in making it always healthy an alive on this board.
i really wish i could be a successful male, but instead i am failing my life and to make it worse i don't have the willfore to pursue the male aesthetic. i hope that reading this thread will give me enough suggestions and encouragement.
Belongs to the sci fi genre, and the series is hailed as one of the best sci fi series out there.
Summarizing is hard desu.
>mankind started to build colonies on other plantes
>for interplanetar traveling a special kind of spice is required
>this spice is found on one planet
>gives you blue eyes, longer live, and for some the ability to peek into the future (that's how they navigate at speed faster than light thorugh space)
>then we have two ruling houses of the empire that plot against each other
>story is great
>couldn't stop reading
>6 books later
I suck at explaining. If you want a sci fi series that is not just about fights in space and so on then I highly recommend it. Frank Herbert wrote a beautiful story.
Opened that gif and my life flashed before my eyes by the way.
You did a pretty good job at explaining it though, guess I now have a new book to read. Usually scifi stories end up so boring because it all becomes about travel and pew pew, but dune doesn't sound like it's only that so good good good.
No, dune is definitely not just about traveling and pew pew. The story is hard to explain and I don't want to spoiler anything. It got me hooked. So much that I read all of the books in about two weeks or so.
All I'm saying is low testosterone is serious and lack of facial and body hair development with low libido is a sure sign of low T. Minimizing Estrogen levels is a good idea, but of course not eradicating E entirely.
I'm currently reading The Old Man and the Sea. I mean it's really short, I'm probably going to finish it in a couple of hours.
I enjoy reading but I haven't done it a lot lately, mostly because I don't know what to read. Doesn't help that I fon't particulary have a favourite author or genre.
Trying to create a MASC space is impossible because the only people who show up are infatuated with the idea of finding the fabled MASC gay man to dom top their bussy and they either exaggerate their barely considered MASC behaviors
>dude I watch sports
>bro beer tastes so good
>beards are so cool, man
And pretend their feminine sides don't exist. Eventually the fem spills out and "guilty pleasures" get admitted and surprise, surprise, everyone fucking LOVES queeny shit.
The BEST is when I meet dudes who boast about how MASC they are and the first words out of their mouth sound like RuPaul's drag race.
You wanna find actually masculine dudes? Then go out and talk to regular gays who don't give a shit.
I want to be really muscular yet cut, but I want to look like a bodybuilder(or a sickcunt), when I get below 10% I will start shaving my legs/bodyhair.
Is that a good idea if I want to get laid as a bottom? Would I even be considered /mascgen/ if I did that? Also, I don't want weak men/femboys, I want strong men/tall.
Who? Sorry I don't take part in your feminine culture.
I mean, unless you're incredibly androgynous I don't see how that's possible. Masculinity and feminity are not only physical traits. You might not look like a rough bear, but if you still behavr and present yourself in a masculine way, then you aren't really feminine looking
>pretending to not know about rupaul
Y'all are like when ostriches bury their heads in the ground in order to protect their precious masculinity. Rupaul and drag in general isn't very interesting to me but at least I don't pretend to have never heard of it
>A nice ass is bound to attract men.
That's like the easiest muscle for me to grow(that and legs). So should I focus more on that rather than V-shape body?
>Most people don't find the body builder look attractive.
Why not, when I see swole men in the gym with no sleeves I just want to touch them. Jacking off to swole/fit men helps me motivate myself in the gym(and in the kitchen).
Yeah I guess so. It's hard to gauge unless you're actually in person. I mean I'm just trying to understand if masc4masc is like an appearance only sort of thing or not. I've run into some twinks who look girly but their personalities are really masc and domineering :/
Well, I know I like a guy with a meaty ass. Then I don't mind if he's muscular, average or even a bit fat.
>I see swole men in the gym with no sleeves I just want to touch them.
Oh, well that's something different. I thought you were talking about the dehydrated-for-competition look bodybuilders usually have. Regular fit/buff guys are much more liked in general.
Neither does anyone in life. But I'm not afraid of it like you are. Masc chasers spend their days being "above" gay culture and wondering why they're being ignored by torsos on grindr and okcupid
am i masc enough for mascgen?
The thing about not being too feminine is that people will assume you are straight. Personally, I don't think my sexuality is anyone's bussines but mine, so I only talk about it when it gets brought up (if somebody asks about it or about previous partners, etc.). This brings the question, how do you meet another gay guys? Especially those who don't look gay at first sight
it's simple i look femme enough that everyone thinks im gay,and surprise surprise masc 4 fem is what being gay is all about my fellow masclet!
Online. The chances of meeting gay guys IRL are almost 0 unless you visit gay bars and parades and those places are filled with feminine sluts or biscum attracted to feminine sluts. If you want a masc guy you have to search online.
Apps and gay bars. Make groups of gay friends. Join a gay sports league. If you associate with gay people, chances are they'll introduce you to more gay people who you might not assume are gay on sight.
sure keep up that mantra permavirgin, i have a very masc very gay boyfriend but he's not autistic enough to be mathc4matthhhhc onlyyyyy
>wishing death upon other people
yeah society will totally accept people with a mindset like that right? As it stands you're only creating a divide over something meaningless so until this general dies im going to ruin it :^)
imo just having a masc gen isn't helpful for finding the guy you want. Masc chasers should try to find guys with mutual interests instead of "how masculine are you" because that's literally no indication of how much you have in common. Masculinity and femininity are in everyone and are expressed in such varied ways that it's like trying to meet someone based on what kind of food they like to eat.
Honestly playing nice to people who don't like us anyways is fucking retarded. We literally have to replace these idiots with people who aren't terrified of gay sex, which is only growing because people found out that they had loved ones who were LGBT and realized that they were worth more than a fucking sentence in a sand book
Some people had realized It already. But the general reaction was about the lines of "wtf, you?"
Although that probably had something to do with the face that I was outed before I could come out myself
I haven't come out to anyone yet, but when I come out to my parents my mother will have a heart attack (literally) and my dad will try to hit me unconscious.
Yay I love my overly homophobic family. Can't wait.
>people who aren't terrified of gay sex, which is only growing because people found out that they had loved ones who were LGBT and realized that they were worth more than a fucking sentence in a sand book
>people who don't exist
We're on our own.
It's time you come to face with that fact.
I guess my mother at least already realized that something is "off". Only outed myself to two friends and they were surprised.
Parents don't know yet. Wonder how they will react. Will my dad hate me? I'll find out I guess.
>family threw me out
one of my biggest fears desu anon. Hope everything turned out okay in the end.
You're missing the point. The concept of masc gen is inherently flawed. It's why there are like 300 gay apps. Everyone tries to exclude "fem" dudes which is
A: retarded and
There are fem dudes who love sports. There are fem dudes who like video games and anime and anything you could wanna talk about. You don't want to talk to them because you don't find them hot. That's literally the only reason masc gens get made. How much discussion in this thread is about football? Fishing? Guns? There was one about books (kek, so MASC right) but that got two replies, one of which was me
yeah everything's gucci now but at the time it was quite a shock especially since i wasn't prepared for such a volatile reaction.
This is often true, sadly.
Here, gay marriage and stuff has been legal for years, but most people are still homophobic.
It'll probably be better in the future, but at this moment we are on our own
That's literally what is happening though. The older generation who unironically and unself-consciously love Jesus more than anything are literally dying out and raising people who think that's retarded
they were in denial tbqh famalamadam
please the average iq of someone who even cares about the dichotomy of masculinity and femininity is exceptionally low, I wouldn't even bother trying to reason with these people because they can't even begin to comprehend that we're all in the same ship together and we all can get along; I mean as they say ignorance is the greatest enemy of friendship.
woah hateful words, but if you've ever been on gaygen you'd know the only person i've ever slept with is my boyfriend and i'm straight edge. If first looks mean everything to you as an impression then you're a pretty trashy person tbqh famalamadam.
>please the average iq of someone who even cares about the dichotomy of masculinity and femininity is exceptionally low, I wouldn't even bother trying to reason with these people because they can't even begin to comprehend that we're all in the same ship together and we all can get along
I have nothing in common with flamers. The dichotomy of masculinity and feminity shouldn't even exist in the first place.
I don't mind talking with feminine men. I just enjoy talking with other gay men about things that are not stereotypically gay. I simply don't care about drag queens or beyonce in the super bowl.
The actual football game was the most boring shit I've ever seen. It's literally only defense. I don't know how people can enjoy the NFL. I only care about my college football team and even then that's only when we're doing well that season. Otherwise I'm not gonna waste four fucking hours being hungover and disappointed.
>the only person i've ever slept with is my boyfriend and i'm straight edge.
You are absolutely hideous to look at. You are trashy. It doesn't surprise me at all that nobody would want to sleep with you. You are too hideous even for bisexual standards. It must have been extremely painful to have been incapable to slut it up for a whore like yourself.
>How much discussion in this thread is about football? Fishing? Guns? There was one about books (kek, so MASC right)
Well, it's hard to have a discussion when people who have no real interest in the thread decide to shit it up for no reason.
>inb4 the reason is that having a masc general is dumb!
Then by all means stay awau from it. Don't do that to yourself
>waaahhh oh no he isn't masc like me so he must be trashy and hideous!!! wahhhhh
pls, I already know i'm superior in looks to you fuccboi.
See? I didn't even see your post because of the shitsorm around it. I agree, the game does look boring. I'm not from the US so I don't care a lot about it either.
Personally what I like about watching sports is getting together with friends. Watching them alone is boring as hell.
talk shit post face ;)
ummm, if you haven't noticed your a man who likes other men, you should feel free to the liberty of self expression, and for the record i'm not a leftist, i'm a neo-classical libertarian who can understand the similarities between /pol/-tier brainwashing and tumblr-tier brainwashing. Your argument would have beena lot more sound if you didn't add the little leftist tripe at the end of it.
>ummm, if you haven't noticed your a man who likes other men, you should feel free to the liberty of self expression
How does that change the fact that I am a man? Why should my self expression change if I am still a man? You can only justify this through leftist mental gymnastics.
I can't really enjoy watching a game unless I'm seeing it live and in person. The crowd gets me hype. If it's on TV it's worthless to me. Yeah, it's basically an excuse to hang out and drink
to be honest you're going to be excluded from the liberties that many other men share on the basis of your sexuality alone, if you think you'd get the same exact treatment from the bros while being very sexually open you're sorely mistaken, thus having a sense of identity is fairly useful in combatting low self-esteem which is dope desu.
Also this has nothing to do with leftism, I'm fairly anti-leftist myself but using it as a scapegoat won't win you any points with trying to convince level headed people of your arguments.
i didn't attempt to look fem you know some people are just born looking different then super masc guys.
Yes, you and your kind are victims of homophobia, and I sincerely pity you. Your disgusting and cancerous behavior is a result of it, and the sooner we end homophobia the sooner mentally ill abominations like yourself will cease to exist.
You've been spooked, son.
Dude you are exactly why people make fun of masc gen. It's not because you wanna talk about "MASC" subjects (which you clearly don't) but because you have all this hilariously obvious internalized homophobia. You think fem dudes ruin gayness for you when really we're on your side and want you to enjoy being gay and not get in bed with people that will only accept you if you never talk about being gay and pretend that you aren't attracted to men and have your sex and relationships in secret
The dichotomy between feminine and masculine gays exists only as a result of homophobia. Feminine gays are nothing but victims of it. This unfortunate division wouldn't exist without homophobia. normal masculinity is a natural part of the male condition.
holy shit i thought my fucking argument was lost on deaf ears but at least one anon gets it.
You fundamentally don't understand or refuse to accept that men are raised to fit into predefined roles for their gender. Men didn't EVOLVE to like sports because sports didn't fucking exist then. You have the choice, the FREEDOM to like what you like and not give a shit who judges you for it. That is why thinking that a dichotomy exists is retarded. Heteronormativity is retarded.
Dude I was already on your side coming into this thread. I'm probably further left than you, honestly
>brainwashed into believing false concepts
look whos talking lmao
Wow that guy with whom you were arguing definitely has some really bad internalized homophobia combined with some serious delusions on how to "properly" be a gay man, like you said. Pretty pitiful tbqh.
OP, I just want to take this moment to thank you for making this thread. For so long has /lgbt/ just been /mtfgen/, /femgen/, /gaygen/, /lesgen/, and /ftmgen/ that I never really knew what was missing. Now I finally feel as though I belong.
It is your duty now to keep it alive. Femmies will do anything and everything in their power to destroy /mascgen/ don't let it die.
My problem is that I'm twink mode. However, I'm due to graduate this year and will be investing a lot of time in my physique when I do finish University. Hopefully then I'll escape twink mode and have less of a babyface.
Masculinity is not so much physical as it is spiritual. If you think and express yourself in a masculine manner it is enough. Self improvement for your own sake is always encouraged though.
Through spirituality though, your physical nature also follows. This why a lot of men maintain these physiques forever, meanwhile the ones that aren't really spiritually tuned up tend to become fat again.
If that's your prerogative and what you want to do all power to you. You can still decide to be feminine and no one will hold it against you.
I find it quite foolish to define masculinity as such tbqh. Masculinity is just being a man. Men have a huge variety of different interests and personalities and there is no such thing as truly "masculine" hobby or interest. This attempt to define masculinity possibly comes from the need to distinguish ourselves from femmes but really all there is to it is that we are not mentally ill.
Cheers for the affirmation anon.
I'm both optimistic and hopeful that I'll accomplish what I set out to achieve.
Being overweight can be symbolic of masculinity too though, which is probably why bears and chubs are perceived/portrayed as being more masculine than twinks. I guess I go against the grain when I say I'm a twink because I'm a total top with no interest in male genitalia.
I don't define masculinity simply by one's appearance. For example, daveywavey looks fit but is very camp and flamboyant. I'd say I'm quite conservative and masculine in nature, and personality, with few discrepancies, but ultimately aspire for a good, fit, strong and healthy body to coincide with it.
>Being overweight can be symbolic of masculinity too though
No, not really. Not ever. Overweight is explicitly a symbol of decadence - not masculinity.
Bears and chubs are not "more masculine" in my eyes than twinks - excluding the 'constantly bulking' chubs/bears. They're just as fem, overindulging themselves in luxury.
> Bears and chubs are not "more masculine" in my eyes than twinks - excluding the 'constantly bulking' chubs/bears. They're just as fem, overindulging themselves in luxury.
But how can this be considered 'fem' when women don't imitate this sort of behaviour?
Well, dude, I've seen some 'stuff' with daddies having their sons/boys ravage their holes, and trust me, I thought there was no such thing as masculine bottoms but I was proved wrong...
But these are two separate things? You could say men who indulge in luxuries such as buying sports cars, or seasonal tickets for sporting events, or high-end gym membership are feminine too. Right?
This. You can be a virgin Neet and still be masculine. Masculinity is just being a normal non mentally ill male. It is pointless to try to distinguish ourselves further by using exaggerated stereotypes.
Looks like you left your containment thread friend.
Nah, it just seems a little pointless to come here and impose your concepts and ideologies on others. You're baiting by saying that no bisexual or homosexual male can be masculine.
That'd probably be hot if it wasn't for the facial expression SP, lel. Also, I can't imagine it's going to stay up for long...
Masc gen should ideally be every gay man who does not resemble nor wants to resemble pic related. Using exaggerated stereotypes to destinguish ourselves from femboys is indeed retarded.
Because there's quite obviously a weiner inside that bun anon.
Hmm, I wouldn't necessarily say those qualities were feminine though. However, I think it differs from location to location, and it's the local communities that can determine what is and is not masculine and/or feminine. Personally, I think in a few decades, 'gender' will become obsolete and people will just be as 'people', instead of 'he's so masculine/she's so feminine', etc.
> Personally, I think in a few decades, 'gender' will become obsolete and people will just be as 'people', instead of 'he's so masculine/she's so feminine', etc.
How old are you btw?
Basically on paper, but their relationship is a complete disaster otherwise. I mean, if you were in a fulfilled relationship would you spend majority of your day posting men that look nothing like your boyfriend on 4chan?
This. Lets keep gaygen trips and drama in gaygen shall we?
If a tripfag posts in here just ignore them they'll go back to gaygen where they'll be responded to.
MASCGEN doesn't allow tripfags or namefags satisfaction of being responded to.