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The Danish Girl will be on the theaters of my country in 25 February.
I recently told my mom I'm a trans, and she accepted me.
Do you think it's a good idea watch this movie with her?
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Education is always good especially if the person is USAmerican.
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I want Redmayne and Cillian Murphy to dress up and fuck for my amusement.
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No it sucks.
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>>5689256
I'd advise reading a summary of the movie before watching. It's a pretty movie with a lovely score, but the trans narrative it depicts is one you should probably know before going in.
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>>5689289
Good idea. Thanks.
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I've heard its kinda bullshit and makes trans people seem like sex perverts. The general public will like it because they're retarded and don't know any better.
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It's a lovely albeit sad movie, but it doesn't really reflect current trans issues due to the time of the events. Still, some parts of the story is rather timeless I guess, such as coming out to a partner and exploring a new side of yourself. Hope I haven't spoiled it too much, I think that everyone should go to see it.
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no no
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>>5689322
What? I see the exact story depicted in that movie in "Am I trans? " threads and posts every day. I think it's good that the public becomes aware of the fetishistic, evolution of individuals who became aroused by the idea of expressing themselves as the opposite gender, and then falling in love with the image they see, wanting to become him/her forever.
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>>5689289
Yeah, I liked the score and the way the film was shot, but the narrative was trash. Not only was it inaccurate as to what actually happened in Elbe's life, but it painted trans identity as some weird disassociative fetish.

It's basically AGP: The Movie.
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>>5689356
It's funny cause you guys will deny the fetish to the moon and back, and the first real movie we get on transexuals depicts it exactly as everyone else thinks it happens, perversion.
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>>5689378
This is far from the first real movie about trans people.

But would you care to guess what proportion of the people who wrote, directed, and produced the film and the material from which it was adapted were trans vs cis?
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>>5689378
extreme fetishists =//= actual trans people born with gender dysphoria. Just because there's more fetishists than actual trans people doesn't mean it applies to everyone under the stupid umbrella society forced us under.

It's not even historically accurate. All this movie is is yet more misinformation from disingenuous popular media. But don't worry, we're used to it at this point.
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>>5689256
Never seen it, but a cis friend did and claims it looks like a guy suddenly decided to change sex on a whim
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>>5689426
I'm not trying to invalidate the identity of any trans individuals, hell I have a shit ton of fetishes myself. Browsing gay porn sites and the like, and finding bi guys on grindr, I always seem to find these "sissies" who want me to humiliate them while they're crossdressed, while dicking them down/whatever. Well, 2 of my fuck buddies transitioned now and I feel really bad for them frankly. I know they probably couldn't control themselves, but that fetish just seems dangerous to me, not something i'd tell someone to indulge in regularly. So now, whenever I think sissy, I think transexual soon and I don't want any part of that anymore. One of the guys even confided in me about how every time he masturbated, the desire to transition would become increasingly more powerful.
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>>5689444
Your friend might be under the impression that the the movie plot is in real time. It is not.
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I loved this movie. It really helped me to understand trans people more. I never understood how it was possible for a man to feel like a woman or vice versa, but now I see that they're born with a desire to wear dresses, skirts and heels and feel a connection to the opposite sex in that way, so that means they have the mind of a man/woman.
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>>5689378
>and the first real movie we get on transexuals
Transgender. And please watch Ma Vie en Rose, Soldier's Girl or Transamerica.
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>>5689561
Good selection. Tomboy from 2011 is good too, and of course Boys don't cry.
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Absolutely not. This is not something that will make you seem like a functional person with any hope in your future. It's just shitting on trans people left and right.
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>>5689472
Yeah, sissies and transsexual women are definitely different...

I feel sorry for sissies, too. Transition is a lot of hell to go through for a fetish, you know?
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>>5689256
That sounds fucking awkward as fuck, don't watch that shit with your mom. Fuck I'm cringing just thinking about it.
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>>5689256
The film is literally horrible... it's more like she has multiple personality disorder than her being trans and they play up this weird sexual element to her putting on girls clothes. Also the actor who plays her looks like a fucking psycho.
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>>5689322
>makes trans people seem like sex perverts

Because they are? It's like you have never read Mtf gen, transbian gen, or any of the random posts on 4chan where trannies post about how much they want to be used as a cum sock for men complete with cum drenched anime girl pictures
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No

I genuinely found the character to be quite unlikeable
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>>5689557
kek
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>>5690193
>Because they are?

I wasn't even denying it. I was just saying that it doesnt seem like a good idea to take someone who is still forming their opinion of trans people to a film that makes it look like a strange fetish.

Even if it is truth, is that what you want to promote? Is that what you want people to think it is?

Sometimes the truth isnt in your best interests.
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>>5690193
Cis girls want to be a cum sock for men too.
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>>5690619
Says the /r9k/ creepy male fetishist
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>>5689561
>>5689683
Although it's not a movie and the synopsis sounds a little over-the-top, I would also recommend the miniseries Hit & Miss. It handles the main character's trans identity very well and is an overall very good series.
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>>5689472
you dicked them too well they've decided to become perma girls, its all your fault!

it is dangerous fetish indeed, it fucks up your personality and gender identity
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>>5694771
I mean, I wish I could say this was a joke
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>>5689378
>It's funny cause you guys will deny the fetish to the moon and back
What fetish? I knew I was trans before my hormones kicked in. I knew I was a girl, and desperately wanted to be one. It was the world that only showed me love, or likely fetish lust on their part, when I expressed the sexual/sexy side of my self. I only got teasing and harassment when people found out I was a boy, and not a girl. At that point in my life I was so fucked up from how I was treated before I had no hope to be able to distinguish between somebody else's love and their fetish. Any affirming attention, even if it was bad, was massively better then the teasing and harassment I'd endured for years.
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>>5689557
As a MtF: It is more that we are born with a female mind, so we naturally imprint on females for our role models, and take on and want to do the things the females around us do. Those inputs can come from those immediately around us like parents, siblings, and classmates at school. It can also come from people we see in the media like on TV or web sites, etc..

For a FtM, swap the sexes and genders.
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>>5696596
If only things were that simple
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>>5690828
No, that's reality. There are plenty of girls who are after sex, sex, sex. Read any autobiography by Pamela Des Barres, she made a life of chasing and fucking rock stars.

Another thing to remember is you don't know if the person posting that is really trans or is a troll trying to make trans look bad. I never hear comments like them in trans support meetings. Even when we delve deep into sex topics.
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>>5696622
Learn about human development. That is a core urge that operates from birth on.
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>>5696666
Learn about Psychology. Everything is theory until proven as fact.
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>>5696640
What if the person isn't attracted to men at all and is attracted to a sissified version of themselves being fucked by men like a cheap peace of meat? I feel like a distinction should be made between the male sissy fetish and the female sexuality. I'm a female and am frankly offended when someone compares my sexuality to that of an AGP male. I've never heard of an autogynephile that was into romance novels for instance, or have never even known them to talk about any sort of attraction to men, like normal females do. The closest thing there seems to be to the female sexuality is the gay boys who transition and watch yaoi, read slash, etc.
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>>5690193
i see gay men post this all the time too, you are on the internet on 4chan you think faggots wont be fapping all the time
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>>5696572
OMG guys I knew I was a girl since I was 3... even though I started hormones at 24!!! I'm serious guys!!! I'm trutrans!!
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>>5689322
>The general public will like it because they're retarded and don't know any better.
The general public will like it because they're normal and don't make a big deal of small things*
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>>5696802
>What if the person isn't attracted to men at all and is attracted to a sissified version of themselves being fucked by men like a cheap peace of meat?
lol You really think that is a likely possibility? Get your head checked.
>I feel like a distinction should be made between the male sissy fetish and the female sexuality. I'm a female and am frankly offended when someone compares my sexuality to that of an AGP male. I've never heard of an autogynephile that was into romance novels for instance, or have never even known them to talk about any sort of attraction to men, like normal females do.
First: AGP was coined by a researcher who was bad at research, and it has been thoroughly discredited. This is a guy who called MtF transsexuals who loved men as super gays. At it's core they are transsexuals who are attracted to females, and get a sexual rise out of seeing the female form of themselves. Some transsexuals go through this phase, but it usually goes away over time. Blanchard totally missed the fact that transsexuals transition because MtFs are feminine, and FtMs are masculine, and can't deal with the body they were born into.
Second: Romance novel, male or female lead character that is into the opposite sex. What is there in it for a female personality attracted to female bodies? I personally devour romance novels, but I'm a bisexual MtF, and at one point I would have been considered to have AGP. Read on on theory of self. We each have an image of ourselves that is remembered in our brains. That theory of self is slow to change. When I first transitioned, I saw myself in the mirror, and didn't recognize myself. It took two to three years before I properly recognized myself at a glance in the mirror. Half way through that 2-3 years I had a pretty good looking body, and bodies that good looking often caused arousal in me.
Third: Male sissy fetish is a person that wants to stay male, yet dress, behave and act feminine.
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>>5697503
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>>5696802
>The closest thing there seems to be to the female sexuality is the gay boys who transition and watch yaoi, read slash, etc.
You need to meet more transgenders. Sadly society has pushed most of them deep into the closet, and spread lies about them making them very afraid to show themselves. Most are very normal in their sexual attractions.
>>5696703
Sometimes there is such a body of evidence that a theory is considered valid without absolute proof.
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>>5690193
>cis girls are perfect wallflowers that have absolutely no libido and never ever think any dirty thoughts and their minds are filled with sugar, spice and everything nice and...

Yeah cis women can be as fucked up (or more) than cis guys and they can be and often are into some depraved shit.
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>>5696596
That's actually true. Almost every character I liked as a kid was a strong/intelligent female, Xena, Buffy, Misty, Kim Possible, Shego, Hermione, Bloom from Winx Club etc. And that goes WAY before I ever started puberty.
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So a trans friend who has just come out suggested we see this with her. Should I point her towards a few writeups before we go see it? It doesn't sound like it's really going to convey the message she's hoping.
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>>5696802
You know I'm genuinely offended by your stereotyping. If I said women are dumb and don't belong in lab but in kitchen you'd feel similar.
>I've never heard of an autogynephile that was into romance novels for instance
There are literally straight cis guys that are really really into romance novels. How the hell is reading romance novels some great sign of femininity?

>attraction to men, like normal females do
Because every female is outspoken about her attraction. Also

>normal females
>attraction to men
lesbians would like to have a word with you

> The closest thing there seems to be to the female sexuality is the gay boys who transition and watch yaoi, read slash, etc.
And who exactly gave you the right and authority to be the arbiter of what is and isn't female sexuality? How is yaoi female sexuality but straight porn is? You're again forgetting lesbians but I know for a fact there are straight women that also watch lesbian porn and can get off on it? What exactly IS female sexuality? Whatever you define it as?
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>>5698277
The tone of your writing is very bitter. Would you like to explain to us why? They say the loudest Autogynephilics type the loudest you know. Also, the normal female is not a Lesbian. I have not once seen a female with a sissy fetish and have objectively seen many posts here where the OP claims that the overcomsumption of sissy pornography has created more than just a fetishistic desire to be female and even a VALID female identity as a result of indulging into the fetish. I don't know about you, bbut I've read of amputee fetish that deeply desired to cut off their leg after masturbating enough to the idea of themselves without a certain limb. I've seen a forum of guys who desired to castrate themselves because of their extreme ball-kicking fetish, so if your argument is "why would a person with a fetish transition?", you'd be wrong. Tell me, what makes you think you're not romantacizing the emasculation of your own male body? Sissies obviously AREN'T all happy being male and are quite clearly fetishizing the emasculation of males into females, so what makes you think you're any different? I could easily prove my point by inputting "sissy fetish transition", or "sissy hypnosis hormones" into google and show you what I mean about the people I speak of. They aren't rare, I can promise you that.
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>>5689279
this desu
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