>>5687564 I agree, the typology is stupid. The stereotype exists like it or not though, and I think Bruce fits it a little too much for comfort.
Tbh though, it's not his fault the media latched on. They don't want to focus on passables. A hideous masculine man in a dress makes a more sensational news story. It's all about grabbing viewers attention, and bruce is great at that.
>>5687505 I'm glad that she, and several other celebrities have brought trans people (mostly trans women, regrettably) into the public consciousness.
I'm not very happy with her as an advocate or representative, however, given how greatly her lived experience as a trans woman differs from most of ours. Still, I wish that our community would stop treating her with such cruelty. Whether or not we love her or her politics, this practice of deadnaming her all the time and misgendering her as a matter of course is making me sick. Why is it so essential to disrespect and invalidate her?
>>5687731 Same reason I'm quick to throw stefoknee under the metaphorical bus. Why shouldn't we take out our trash? Look what unlimited acceptance of bullshit has done to feminism! Unlike feminism, some of us are focused on being genuine, rather than an anything goes circle jerk that quietly harbours "the bad ones"
>>5687855 I sort of see it as the "fred phelps/hitler/other horrible person/ was a human" arguement. Just because these people are horrible awful sacks of shit, doesn't change what they are demographically. Its hard for trans people to accept this though, cause trans people already get shit on enough, for the media to latch onto to these embarassing and often repulsive examples seems like kicking us when we are down. It's sort of like if the most famous gay person was like jeffery dahmer or some shit.
>>5687505 Fuck no. I can't wait for everyone to forget about her. Ugh.
>>5687855 >stefonknee >old dude with a fetish for pretending to be a little girl >"trans" Nah. He's about as much of a woman as I am a gas station that can talk.
Yes, he is a shithead and a creep. No, he's not trans, and if I were an endo near him I'd keep his sissy-fetish pedo ass from getting near hormones. Then again, it wouldn't make much difference even if he did take them, there is no fixing his hon ass.
>>5687948 I agree with this, too. I just don't think certain people are actually trans, just crossdressing-fetish-having men, and that anyone with eyes can see that. Caitlyn is definitely a transwoman, even if I don't like her, and it was obvious way before she came out - so I'm not denying that. But the Stefonknees of this world? Nah.
>>5687505 No. She's set trans rights back at least a decade here in the U.S. Conservatives are lashing back with hate campaigns and anti-trans 'bathroom bills'. It'll either pass and go back to where no one gives a shit or get worse.
And what has changed? There are very little employment and housing protections in place for trans. Conversion therapy on gay and trans minors is still legal in the majority of states. Trans people are still being forced by their families and society to hide who they are until it's too late and wind up committing suicide at a disproportionately high rate. People still hate us and think we're all mentally ill perverts. Cases like Jenner and "Steponknee" only reinforce that narrative. Trans people are still murdered in the streets and no one gives a shit, some even believe we deserve it for 'tricking' people. The perpetrators of these crimes usually get off with a slap on the wrist. Gay or trans panic is still a legal defense in most states. Trans still have to go through an enormous amount of red tape in order to get their documents changed. Some states don't even allow it at all.
So tell me, what is there to be happy about? Her media coverage was a hollow victory at best.
Wish it was someone more respectable than a Kardashian clan member. First thing my parents ever mentioned regarding transgenders was C Jenner and I don't feel good about that. I hope that's not the kind of shit they think of when I come out.
She also hid for most her transition and then did that big ol' "fabulous" coming out. The reality is more of a slow, often ugly transition.
All those woman of the year award and bravery awards? Incredibly undeserved. Stupid "I'm such a good person" bandwagoners were shitting all over people who brought that fact to attention. Never mind all the transwomen and cis women that have faced any sort of real struggle, especially the ones without fame and fortune.
She is no different than the rest of her family, all she does is leech off our "look at me!" culture. I am not a fan.
>>5689274 I'm going to go with this. The more I see idiot bible thumping children the more I am beginning to think euthanasia is the way to go. We're never reach New Eden with such people in existence.
But my question to you is, does it have to be Domestos or will Clorox work?
>>5689274 Or we could just actually educate people in school but parents won't allow it, they was the same bullshit about Columbus and George Washington being taught in school instead of real shit like how to make money, file paperwork, know about the human body from a "we are totally animals" perspective. I mean shit, 80% of americans refuse to pull their head out of their ass and realize we are indeed animals, like cats or seals, we are all related and DNA is the proof. Introns and Codons motherfucker.
>>5689222 >So stop voting for the USAmerican conservatives.
I'm a registered voter and vote democrat every time. Even voted for our city's non-discrimination ordinance. You know what came out if it? Absolutely nothing. The GOP still owns congress and the ordinance got repealed by a fucking landslide because fundies made the entire issue about bathrooms.
Can't exactly do much against a super majority, you condescending tripfag.
>>5687855 Stefonknee isn't a woman though. He's just a fetishist who's into ageplay and sissification. He left his family to live out his fetish. He had 7 kids. They were fine with him dressing up and all of that but he just up and fucking left one day. Also, the whole "stop being trans or leave" thing was completely misconstrued. His ex-wife just told him to leave for a few hours and he took it as "Welp, time to ditch my family and live out my fetish!". I found a message from his daughter being sent to him at some point, but I lost it at this point. He's been arrested multiple times and is arguably a pedophile.
>>5692422 I believe I described Stefonknee as "...an irresponsible, self-centered, fetishist creep". You're right, I should probably have included abusive. Emotionally so, at the very least.
The letter you're referring to is one of her daughters defending the family as a whole, and describing how things got to the point they are. A father's day card was supposedly sent as a peace offering and wish to have her back in their lives, but she took it as an attack and cut off contact with them entirely.
There is a great deal of evidence that Stefonknee is a terrible person - I'm confident she is, and feel sick to my stomach that a trans advocacy group is showcasing her story over that of some more relatable trans woman - but how does that invalidate her gender identity?
>>5693282 It's the fetlife stuff. Here's some screenshots. Trans people don't actively identify as sissies, which would just make them transvestites. The spam filtre is giving me a hard time, I'm gonna have to send this in installments.
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