/FemGen/ - Be a manly man edition
▶What is a fem guy?
A young, androgynous guy with soft features. Mostly gay, but not all.
▶Are fem guys trans?
Some inevitably turn out trans. Some age into twunkhood and continue slutting it up on Grindr well past their mid twenties.
▶Can I be a fem guy?
Often with enough effort, yes. Masculine bone structure, height, and aging make it hard.
▶Should I go on HRT?
If you can deal with the tits and infertility, you'll look younger longer and you won't age like a man.
▶Is liking fem guys considered gay or straight?
Gay. If you're on the fence, you're bi, like a lot of people.
▶Informed Consent Providers: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/932389/Trans/Stepping%20Forward%20-%20Informed%20Consent%20Clinics.pdf
▶HRT info: https://web.archive.rg/web/0000000000000 http://taimapedia.org/index.php?title=Hormones
▶Beginner makeup resources: https://masterposter.tumblr.com/post/116605714860
▶Skincare resources: https://www.reddit.com/r/SkincareAddiction/wiki/index
▶Hair care resources: https://www.reddit.com/r/haircarescience/wiki/index
▶Binding 101: https://neutrois.me/2013/03/27/all-about-binding/
▶Masectomy Information: https://www.topsurgery.net/faq/
▶/Femgen/ Skype Group: Post your Skype, and someone from the group will add you.
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Can i be a femboy pls
Im just slightly cubby, nothing special sir
I use to be a /femboy/ but then life got hard and I'm a fat ugly man now.
How do I get focus to back into /femgen/? Also, is there such thing as a professional, repectful looking femgen?
yes. you have to keep short hair but grow the sides long razor them, and wear a nice white oxford tucked into your fashionable yet slightly off-color khakis. black or red tie. glasses optional, clients mandatory.
>do immense amounts of cardio
>do all kinds of weird hair treatments and shit
>keep impeccable diet
>be a complete shut in, kissless virgin
why do i bother
i should just get fat and die alone in my room
You've got a great bone structure for it, you'll need to take much better care of your skin though, might not need makeup but you definitely need to sort out your hair
skin + hair are your priorities to start with
She's explicitedly stated in multiple interviews that the whole "non-binary" act was so that she could worm her way into the industry well enough she'd have tenure after she came out. She's a top model for several lines now, there would have been outrage if she'd been dropped for bigoted reasons at that level, but if she'd come out before getting started in fashion she wouldn't have been able to break into the industry too easily. She's been on T-blockers since age 13, she was always full trans.
i think this link does it
Question. If I shave my forearms, when the hair comes back will it be as gross as when the hair from the legs or chest comes out? As in it being scratchy and kinda hard. Or is it like butt hair, which no matter how many times you shave it, when it starts coming back it's light and soft?
I haven't ever shaved my forearms cause I don't think the hair there is masculine, since most girls have quite hairy forearms too.
I don't even like calling it a "manbun" because the only guys I've ever seen calling it that have beards. Try tying it in a bun like the way girls do you know? It's hard to explain but there's usually a difference. You could let some of your bangs out so it looks girlier.
Long hair is super hot as long as you take care of it and not neglect it the way neckbeards do. It takes a long time to grow but once you have it you'll never want to get rid of it.
Also said in bios that she started taking her hormones illicitly, ordered them on line and also was presenting as an andro guy when recruited and was presenting as one up till very recently.
Pejic admitted to being extremely private about this stuff, not liking labels and stuff. Seems more like some sort of androgyny than Trans. Maybe it was just easier to go all the way by that point, especially as far as significant others were concerned.
Is my desire for feminization and to express my sexuality in a girly way just a fetish, or is it a bigger part of my personality that I've been repressing? I'm so confused. Am I just a pervert?
I just want someone to admire my body while I show it off for them.
I have to take a Polysci class to fulfill some bullshit requirement.
But first time i went into the building for it and holy shit there were so many cute white twinks with blonde hair, hipster glasses, skinny clothes(tight jeans, hoodies, shirts)
idk how you guys act but would you guys be mad if i grabbed your butts? (im mtf if you were wondering)
It's only a fetish if you feel this way SOLELY when you're fapping or having sex. If you're naturally feminine and girly at most times in every facet of your life (i.e. when there is nothing sexual involved) then it's not fetish.
I have a bit of advice for you
>if you want to cum again then jerk off some more
>proceed until sexual desire is emptied
>ask yourself the same question you are here
It puts it all in a clearer light, trust me, sexual desire makes people do stupid things.
Tripfags, trannies, and dykes, please hang yourselves
CDs, go back to /b/
MAKE FEMGEN GREAT AGAIN
I dont know if this counts, but I just woke up from a nap where I had a very vivid dream that I was dressed like a slut and getting pounded in a bathroom. I never know how to feel after dreams like that
I don't know anon I would just see how you feel over the next while. Sex is only a small part of being fem. Like I said before, if being fem is only attractive to you in a sexual nature (whether it's a manifestation of dreams/fantasies or real world instances) then it's probably a fetish.
I'm not saying there is such thing as trufem or anything, but most fems are just the way they are naturally. Looking girly has always felt right, no matter what the circumstances hold.
I'm kind of starting to realize why churches and religions are so much against masturbation and cross dressing.
Don't you just jizz in your sleep while seeing all kindas of nasty dreams (like getting fiddled by your mom or passionately kissing your best friend)? I can hardly stay no-fap for two weeks till that happens. And you wake up feeling dirty both mentally and physically, not worth it.
What? No? Nobody ever said you had to fantasize about this or that. Just to fap away any sexual energy and fetishes you have in the moment and then use the low libido period afterward to seriously reflect, unclouded by sexual desire.
actually you get test spikes after no-fap and prolactin spikes after you orgasm
but overall its short-lasing and insignificant
Mhmm. I thought it was common knowledge that Satan is the faggiest femlord of us all?
But its too late already, just thinking of it when I'm not horny makes me lightheaded and fuzzy.
And I think I'm hopelessly narcissistic so feeling myself as a qt girl totally blows my mind and I can spend hrs in front of a mirror.
I would imagine so.
It's a lifestyle that takes more work to maintain than being a regular slob, but if it's making you happy then it's worth it.
Think of guys who create and maintain their muscle mass: I'm sure going to the gym is a chore sometimes but if the results make them feel more like themselves then it's worth it in the end.
Personally I don't feel that I need to force anything because any other lifestyle is inconceivable to me, so it just feels like I'm being myself.
Hope I could help give you some perspective.
That's fair, for the time being I'm just sort of a twinkish slob where I'm not terribly unattractive but I could stand to work on some things. I'm tempted to go the HRT route at times but I'm not the kind of person that plans on killing themselves at 30 and that doesn't sound like something you can easily back out of.
I'm trying to repress it, but the transformative experience of expressing myself in a feminine way seems so magical to me right now. I'm trying so hard not to give into these feelings
It depends on how old you are and how much masculinization your body has already undergone. If you're in your teens you're pretty much fine but if you're in your 20s it depends on how puberty has affected you. If you're super hairy, muscular and masc then it would be a fair bit of work and a pain to keep up. Also it depends how drastic you want to be. Some fems are huge into fashion and wear make-up and spend a lot of time practicing that, while others aren't and don't. It's up to you. It's not a cookie-cutter situation.
Just do little things and see how they make you feel. For example, you might find that shaving your legs or something brings you a lot of goodfeels so it becomes a routine. If you're gonna start hrt just make sure you know what you're getting into and that this isn't some phase where you'll wish you were a chunky masc guy in a year's time.
I just turned 23, and I still have a nice twink body. I keep thinking that I need to just explore this part of myself while I'm young instead of holding it in until I'm 47 and divorced, spiraling into a filthy gay sex rampage. I've lived a really sexually repressed lifestyle in general, and I impose a lot of shame and humiliation upon myself, so I might just be hoping that becoming a femboy will be emotionally cathartic and help me get over all of that stuff. Is that just me being crazy?
Okay so it sounds like you have a preferable situation in terms of your body which is good. Exploration is definitely necessary. Are there any men in your life, like brothers, cousins, father, uncles, etc. Can you imagine yourself aging the way they have? Does it make you feel uncomfortable or do you not mind?
>sexually repressed lifestyle
Are you unsure of your sexuality? Or have you known you're gay and repressed it? I'm sure you know that not all fems are gay (although a lot of us are... it just kind of goes nicely with who we are lol).
I don't think you're crazy. If you've been feeling this way and repressing it then it absolutely makes sense that you'd feel relieved. I don't want to encourage you to do anything that isn't consistent with who you are though. If you're thinking maybe being more fem is just a quick fix or something then I would strongly advise against it.
I'm very comfortable with the inevitability of aging. I'm just thinking about expressing my sexuality now when I'm young. I've never acted on it, but I've been repressing my gay urges since I was in middle school fantasizing about locker room orgies. I had just as dirty thoughts about girls though too. I was exposed to porn at a very young age, so I've always been a pervert with a warped idea of sexual stuff. That's my worry here though, that I'm just a perv and I'll regret making this more than just a fantasy. I don't know, maybe it's my persona as a masc straight guy that's really the act.
Hormones are probably not for you then. But, it might do you some good to explore your feminine side and maybe embrace your gayness. Just try out some things and don't feel ashamed. If you really don't like it or it makes you super uncomfortable then you'll know that perhaps it was just a fantasy. You can still act on these urges though without them taking over your life.
Yes all the fucking time until about a year ago (I'm 22 btw) I finally came to a place where I'm now really confident in who I am/what I like. I repressed my gayness as a kid/teen then got over it and came out. Then I got scared because I thought I was maybe bi and made a mistake lol. I had a couple experiences with girls that made me realize I'm just super gay. I don't think you're over-thinking anything. This is something that requires immense consideration.
I can say I always hated my body hair, but didn't shave case 'it's gay' and was bothered my friends would laugh at me.
And then my gay mates said I'm fine as is. But when I started shaving, it felt really great, I became much happier about myself. Don't care if people like me more or less this way. Planning to do laser epil.
So go with what you feel, it will make you a happier person. And its not a serious perma stuff, like surgery.
There isn't much mention of makeup here. How many of you use it? Don't tell me you go outside without some light concealer at least. Unclear skin isn't fem.
I usually use some light eyeliner or mascara and fill in my eyebrows a bit to draw more attention to my eyes, I try to be skimpy so it's noticeable but not "he's wearing makeup" noticeable
>tfw when i will never stay young forever
Just fuck my shit up desu senpai
>laying in bed
>nipple clamps on
>cock vibe on
>throat gag in
I'm aware. I also know that that sack of faggoty shit has tits and a vag.
So it's never really been convenient for me to be really feminine even though I've got a lot of potential (looking really young, having nice proportions) and stuff but I've always been to scared to go ahead and be really feminine and stuff like I wanna, but I'm going off to university this fall and I feel like it's a perfect opportunity to reinvent myself. So I'm just kind of asking what are some tips and shit you guys would have for getting into the habits of being more feminine daily and stuff? How feminine do you think I should dress? I'm sort of afraid that since it's not something I grew up doing like a lot of femboys it will be too much of an effort to get into the habit(s) of, even though I've always wanted to be more feminine.
For me it's never really been something that I've consciously decided to "do" if you know what I mean. I've always been that sort of way I guess and I didn't realize it fell under this category. If I were you I'd start growing your hair out, start experimenting with more androgynous clothing and body hair removal, things like that. If you're muscular/overweight then it'd be a good idea to counteract that in some way. It's not impossible if you're pretty tall, but it takes on a different aspect at that point.
I'm sort of skinny/curvy, pretty good imo but of course there's always room for improvement.
I get that it's something most people just do naturally and that's what sort of worries me, even though I've always been naturally very feminine in my emotions and desires and interests and shit I've just sort of been "pushed" into not being that way I guess because I grew up in a pretty traditional christian household (not to get all fedora and shit), so it's just never been convenient. I could probably start being more feminine now but I feel like I would just make my parents uncomfortable and have so much explaining and stuff to do it seems like it's just best not to because everyone already knows me a certain way.
Europe, hope that's okay! I am a good boy I promise c:
Wanna exchange skypez?
>"pushed" into inauthentic behaviour
I understand this feeling totally. It doesn't mean you aren't allowed to express yourself in a feminine way though. If being yourself and doing what makes you happy means being more feminine then go for it! Work with what you have (seems like you're in a good position in terms of body at least). If you're worried about shocking those around you who perceive you as masculine-heteronormative then my advice would be to just gradually feminize yourself so as to not arouse shock/notice from others. Just do little things that help you feel more at ease. Does that help?
I was cursed with bad luck desu. I will eventually move to the US of A tho!
I guess a little but I've been sort of on/off that since I was like 16 and first sort of got into the whole femfuck wahtever shit (I'm about to turn 19), trying to do little things like that but my attention span is so shitty or I just get depressed or too overwhelmed with some sort of other thing like school or family drama that I put it on hold or just forget. I always end up back to "normal". I also just don't really know _what_ to do to feminize myself more, like if I wore makeup it'd get noticed unless it was something really basic like concealer which I go on and off of using. I can't really start dressing more androgynous because I usually don't have a lot of money and I feel like my parents would just make it really awkward and shit by asking me things like "when did you get new clothes?" because I don't go out much or "what the hell are you wearing?" because it might trigger them because you know. And of course I can just be like I do what I want bitch but it's never that simple.
Also there's of course the fact that I fucking never go anywhere so sometimes I'm just like whats the point if I'm in my room all day anyway.
Ugh it's just so frustrating that there's no one huge obstacle to use as a scapegoat, it's just a billion little ones that I can't juggle all at once.
>MtF here. Very andro/boyish when hair is up.
Will my upper body become more bulky if I play basketball? Or will my arms thin out? I enjoy playing but I really want to stay lithe above the waist without to much mass.
>tfw I'll never be the tranny in a gay harem with qt femboys that service a handsome bara aryan man who is stern but caring.
>tfw I'll never get to join them in rounding up and putting down radfems like the disloyal dogs that they are and making passionate love to him.
>tfw no artificial wombs so we can combine our genetic material and produce strong offspring for the white race
>tfw I will never be a voluptuous Jewish femboy during WW2 and have my life spared in the last minute by a tall handsome Nazi officer with a kind face because I am the cutest and he feels sorry for me so he hides my trembling cold body under his trenchcoat and very quickly disposes of my Jude star by affixing it on the back of some innocent old German pedestrian woman while no one watches then he is able to get me to Berlin safely where he becomes progressively cruel to me until one night he pushes me against the wall like I am made of paper, rips off my clothes with an angry brutish strength, puts a dog collar on me and starts pimping me out to all the other tall aryan gods-sculpted hunks in Nazi uniforms who order me to get on my subhuman knees and wash their hard throbbing uncut monsters with my fucking mouth as one of them gets behind me, puts his big hands of a working man on my puffy nipples and sodomizes my bp loose with his painful meat, not ever being given anything to eat but their warm cum
why even live
>tfw will never be a /pol/ack's personal fucktoy on a leash that says 'degenerate', called a mentally sick boy while he's hatefucking me from behind and manhandling my breasts with visible disgust in his eyes, his hands owning every inch of my body he touches even cheekily squeezing my bits down there, slipping his fingers into my wet foreskin as I am begging him to stop but he just stuffs my mouth with his fingers and calls me a "subhuman swine that doesn't know when to shut up" then passing me to his /r9k/-browsing friend living in his mom's basement who grabs me by hair, force me down on my knees and waits for me to wrap my lips around his smegma-filled uncut dick otherwise he would kill me by emitting a deadly high-pitched reeee sound. My fuhrer would then laugh as he's crushing my hormones into powder and putting it on his and his friend's dick (no homo) that I have to snort it off their big thick Aryan dicks
>My fuhrer would then laugh as he's crushing my hormones into powder and putting it on his and his friend's dick (no homo) that I have to snort it off their big thick Aryan dicks
>>tfw I'll never be the tranny in a gay harem with qt femboys that service a handsome bara aryan man who is stern but caring.
tfw when im a tranny but will never be the token girl in a qt femboy orgy even though i could go on the internet for this stuff but im too shy
This. You'll only look like a hon if you're retarded and wear women's clothes that look terrible on you and/or wear caked and shittily applied make-up. If you're gonna wear girls' clothes then stick to more androgynous styles like skinny jeans, cardigans and things like that. And if you're gonna do make-up, stick to basic and minimal shit unless you're a pro.
well thats not very meaningful, you have to consider your weight and activity for daily calories
I starved myslef to look like a junkie, while it helps with keeping slim twink body, my face looks unhealthy and its impossibly hard to regain face fat
I wear things like this a lot. Bigger/non-skin-tight sweaters with skinny jeans and vans or something. Wear my hair long and down like in pic. Pretty easy/lazy look tbqh.
Is there any way to nudge my friend into being more femboyish or at least taking care of himself? He has good genetics for it - cute face, blond hair, no beard. But he's kinda reckless, does drugs, eats junk, his skin already looks like he is 35. Such a waste of potential, it makes me sad.
>tfw I will never be andreja
>no matter what I achieve in life, no matter what I do or how qt or fem I try to make myself look, I will *never* have those GOAT genetics
feels bad, man
This, don't go overboard, dad had caner and chemo fucked up the facial fat big time among other things. Current day 15 years later minuscule amounts have returned, tried to talk to him about fat transfer to get rid of skelly face with thirty something male body.
>was in the closet for too long
>got fat from trying to eat and drink the sadness away
>do cardio erry day, but will never be a qt fem like you guys
Just wanted to say I envy you guys. You are all so lucky.
I dress in a lot of relaxed-fit or avant garde clothing and stick out like a sore thumb.
Can we compile a list of essential femboy clothing? I'll start.
>cute racerback tanktop
>chunky ribbed sweater
>skinny (women's) jeans
Women's skinnies or jeggings are seriously the best go to. I have like 12 pairs lol black being the favourite.
Cute undies like this are a must. No big boxers or long briefs.
>Baggie tops and scoop-neck/deep v's
>Long sleeves that are tight at the wrists
>Girls' hoodies (I prefer dark colours)
>Unisex footwear (vans, slip-ons, slim european style boots)
>Cute longer socks (not extreme knee-highs for everyday living)
>Sports bra/binder underneath tops if you're on hormones
>Tight seasonal jackets; leather optional if you want to spend [see pic]
>Longer coat with faux fur if you live in cold climate
All I can think of right now boys.
Thats nice, i only started wearing a bra when i got my facial hair lasered off since i never liked it. Wearing a bra while i still had that crap growing at the time didnt feel right.
Thanks, anon, but it's too late for me to be a fem. I'm gay dead, and I have a huge barrel chest. No amount of cardio will fix either of those things.
You're a sweetie for the kind words, though. Thank you for the encouragement.
Gonna keep at it, for certain. Maybe I can get a halfway decent body out of it.
>I shave before I wear a bra as well.
Yea but if your unlucky like i was , you sleep after you shaved only to wake up to find slight stubble.
Nowadays i get nothing grow out of my face anymore and i love it.
Makes your breath smell like coffee and your pee smell like coffee. Stay hydrated and keep some mints or gum in your pocket. It's not going to affect your body odour. Coffee makes your cum taste worse though.
Never will this place debase itself to that cancerous cesspool of a thread.
'Tis the answer right here. We like being mistaken for girls because we take pride in being feminine as fuck, but we're all guys and have no interest in female pronouns, major surgeries, legal name/sex changes and all that other shit.
>We like being mistaken for girls because we take pride in being feminine as fuck
As androgynous, in a balance were both genders are ambiguous, going over that is plain transitioning.
So where does /femgen/ draws line to excessive femininity?
The person in the picture is wonderfully androgynous.
The mastectomy/binding stuff could also be for ftm femboys, though I'm not sure how accepted they would be here. Historically there's been an anti-trans sentiment in this general, but that seems to be changing.
Ask trans help gen about drugs. Mention you're in the UK.
Yeah I agree. I'm saying that I like being mistake for a girl sometimes because I usually am perceived as a guy. So it's like a nice little refresher that you're not totally masculine. I would never want to be thought of as a girl 100% of the time. I like being a guy too much.
I don't do this. I'm friends with the Skype room owner and was just helping make the thread. Sure it's fun to troll the femboys and make fun of them as trannies in denial but not all of them are.
MTFG is shit, that's why. It's nothing but tripfags circlejerking.
But I agree, I can actually get concrete help from /femgen/. It's a lot less drama than the MTF threads. Differet philosophies, similar end goals, and desu senpai the gays have always been the best at grooming and style.
Both is great. Depends on how the boy wears it and what fits their face more.
That's just the nature of the beast. The beasts in this case being borderline anorexic men whiling to use estrogen and subject themselves to horribly invasive surgical procedures to look just *so* feminine (not too much, not to little).
Not to mention that sexuality, here and at that other general full of beasts, is about as fluid as a high pressure stream of diarrhea.
>high estrogen - cry a lot
How much of this meme is real?
I used to get rather angry when frustrated or depressed (resulting in minor selfharm) but now instead I feel immense self-pity and almost burst into tears, something I haven't felt since puberty. Not even on hrt, just finasteride for skin hair.
(not asking in mtf since they more likely have other reasons to be unhappy)
>tfw so much insecurity from not conforming to the norm that whenever someone compliments you think they are not sincere
>Sure it's fun to troll the femboys and make fun of them as trannies in denial
Suddenly I really dislike you
>Depends on how the boy wears it and what fits their face more.
Tips? Guides? I'm not out yet and I'm growing my hair but everyone is telling me to cut it because long hair doesn't suit me, and how it doesn't look professional" on me, because of my job.
And every time I give in and I cut it, I just end up long in the closet.
Do any of you mix masc/fem clothing?
>andro fashion searches are almost always just tomboys dressed as hipster boys
>or high fashion european bullshit that would never fly off the runway
Guess that means I just have to find my own inspiration.
He was a cute boy and insisted he was one despite the meds he was taking. It's perfectly fine to see his male persona as an ideal.
The sex change and tit implants from later on was his choice and in no way means we're going to do the same.
W-we can just cheat and get cosmetic surgery so we c-can be as cute as him, right?
I'm thankful for my narrow chest and shoulders.
>tfw can wear XS in women's
Has anyone here tried making their hips appear wider by working out their gluteus minimus and medius? Does it work?
(I know HRT would redistribute fat to the area, but I'm not interested in doing that.)
How much can I expect to add to the circumference? A couple inches? Because if it's only like half an inch, then it's not worth the effort.
For reference, my hip circumference (at the top of my hip bone, above my butt) is 31" right now.
I would've posted a picture of myself if I wanted to show an example of my proportions.
I may be a manlet but I'm also the middle ground between the average height of females and males by american standards. Tall lankets make me mad jelly, though. Except for your big feet, I like being able to fit into women's shoe sizes.
The Skype chat never loads for me, blah.
I can't wait for summer so I can be even more femmy.
I would consider that short hair, but it's a stupid poll anyway because everyone has a different opinion on what constitutes "long" vs. "short". My understanding was that "long, flowing hair" is like shoulder length or longer, like pic.
Mixing masc/fem clothes is like the best way to going about it imo. Wearing 100% women's clothes usually makes you look like a hon and wearing all masc makes you look awkward.
A lot of us have male wardrobes to start so just buy some more feminine things and experiment with different combinations of your male and female clothes. There isn't really a formula tbqh though so just see what you like and don't put too much pressure on yourself to meet some "fem" standard because there isn't really one :P
I don't know why everyone says this. It's not true unless you live in a backward country. I have blonde hair down to my nipples and literally no one has called me gay before. They might be thinking it, but no one has ever said anything to me.
Men used to grow hair long until WWI, it started to be cut short to prevent lice infestation among soldiers.
Back then, long hair signifies higher social class, because lower social were expected to do manual labors, things that long hair would get in the way or simply can't take care of it.
In fact the whole long hair=girl/gay is relatively new concept.
Romans had short haircuts too though. Look at the busts of Trajan and Nerva for example. I guess having long hair could be seen as a rejection of military crew-cut looks and therefore a rejection of what many people have viewed as very masculine things.
Tragic. It just makes me feel sad when other fems in this thread end up cutting their long hair because of social pressure. I can't fathom doing that tbqh. I really don't mind being called a fag (doesn't happen often either though).
Yeah and they were still masculine as fuck. It was looked down upon greatly if a roman man bottomed for anyone. Spartans were the gayest and most manly men in all of history arguably. If /mascgen/ should idolize anyone, it's them.
despite the faggotry here, all guys have a male torso
and I'm with you - a male should exhibit some level of fitness, and not look like a starving skinny fat
Hardcore starvation; probably around 500-800cal for months on end.
Oh and being a female. That usually helps with this kind of stuff.
I guess people here find it easier to moap around and do nothing. Except maybe take hormones (purely for aesthetic purposes of course).
You can starve anything. And no, not even guys with wrong genetics have "girly" legs.
where the hell do you guys live? people I've seen with long hair just get nodded at for looking unprofessional.
I'm willing to bet you guys just look femmy already and the long hair just makes it hard NOT to notice.
>look femmy already and the long hair just makes it hard NOT to notice.
Yeah this is definitely the case for me and i very rarely get harassed. I've definitely gotten disapproving looks from straight bro-types before (you can just hear them thinking "wow what a faggot") but they know well enough that if they say homophobic shit in a public setting, it just makes them look like an idiot.
I see tons of guys with long hair, but 99.9% of the time they have some form of beard or facial hair to indicate that they're men. So when people see guys with long-ass hair and androgynous clothes with no facial hair, they get pretty uncomfortable.
I live in the midwest US. No one seems to care. I recognize that I stand out a bit in an office environment, but no one has said anything to me about it and I haven't had any trouble holding a job.
>get nodded at
What does this mean?
No not at all. I'm suggesting that the vast majority of men who grow long hair feel the need to grow a beard to show everyone that they're a man. It's strikes people as unusual when they see a feminine guy with luscious hair and no beard simply because it's uncommon.
every day i shower.
i use a conditioner in the shower, sometimes a live-in to weigh it down, but outside of that i prefer to avoid using too many products. obviously if you blowdry a lot you need some kind of moisturizer/heat protectant combo though.
Typically, once a week at the start of my workweek which is 3 days long. if, at the end of those 3 days, I feel as though it needs a washing, I'll give it a quick wash with a different moisturizing shampoo.
i use a deep conditioner with coconut oil and a daily moisturizor with shea and kelp supplements.
afro hair gets really fucking dry if you wash it too often and needs to be fucking babied to grow because of easy breakage.
Right? I've had laser done on my face because of it
>inb4 tranny in denial
It suits some of us so much better than trying to be an ultra-masc 5'6" manlet with a shitty half-beard and an inferiority complex
Different anon here, but mine falls down to below my armpits and the frizz is just little fly away strands that stick out sometimes after you shampoo because your hair isn't quite moisturized enough. It's worse in winter.
Frizzy like pic related, except my hair is damaged about halfway down so it looks worse if I don't treat it. Lesson learned: don't blowdry your hair every day.
This is how long it is: http://i.imgur.com/PknA2iY.jpg