If you could be a cis girl but would look like a fat unattractive girl while still passing would you take it?
>fat unattractive girl
being vain and caring about your apperance is one of the main things that seperate women from men.
If you want to be a fat gross woman you prove to everyone you arent actually trans and have something else terrible wrong with you.
not him but theres really nothing special about being a biological girl OTHER than the fact you can have babies.
Other than that its just pain and misery, cramps, menstrual cycle, menopause, etc etc.
Id rather look like a cute girl, be treated like a cute girl and feel like a cute girl while still being biologically male than being a faty disgusting woman that everyone laughs at just so i can have kids.
FUCK THAT shit.
>There are TONS of men who
gay men dont count, they arent even 7% of the population. I go outside all of the time, most men i see have 5 day old scraggly beards and smell gross.
Stop watching TV, real men dont look like that.
i derive 0 sexual pleasure from being a girl. i just like being a cute girl because it makes me feel comfortable and happy.
You on the other hand are just a fucked up sociopath who wants to mutilate their genitals and somehow thinks this makes them a girl.
>implying I'm a tranny
you're either a deluded gay man or a deluded tranny
its not a fantasy at all. i look like a cute girl already. i havent been gendered male in a long time. No one but my family will ever know.
The very basis of human evolution is that women evolved to want to be attractive in order to attract men and pass on their genes, while men wanted to be strong and confident to attract women.
If you are a woman and dont want to be attractive, there is something wrong with you. Period.
No. I'd rather be an interesting looking almost passing andro guy than an ugly girl. Especially cause I'm going to get ffs. Even if I don't look cis after ffs I think I'll have that tranny beauty/sexy thing going on which again is better than ugly girl. Idk just when I see ugly fat girls I feel so much pity for them I would never want that for myself.
How about you go to any bar or college in the USA for a week, come back and then tell me the same thing. You're going to see a fuck ton of guys who care about looking good for women. Fat, unattractive girls are the majority of girls you'll see too. Just like fat, unattractive guys are the majority.
this, don't let fucknuts calling you AGP bring you down because it sounds to me like they are just butthurt hons who are trying their hardest to prove that they are still the realest trannies around and deserve a cookie while in fact they are just ugly insecure losers who will never be gendered female
>your breasts and ass enhanced yet?
no. im almost C cup for whatever reason, boobs kinda grew out of nowhere and now i have stretch marks on them. My ass has always been big and round. Iv been posting it on /b/ and /soc/ for years and always fooled people into thinking i was a girl.
> self respecting guy
fuck off chaser. estrogen made me like girls anyways. i have a fiance
>guys it doesnt matter i look like a gross fat man in a dress cuz i got a fake vagina that means im real trans and u are AGP
>eww you care about you appearance? real girls are all ugly! AGP!
>I don't think that's how sexual orientation work
It does for some people.
A lot of trans people report sexuality changes when going on hormones. Myself and my gf both had the same result. I know its the hormones and not something else because as soon as i stop taking them for a few days i start to find men attractive again.
I dont think it does anything for non trans people though
Depends on how unattractive we're talking... is it.. unattractive because of the fat.. or hit every branch on the way down sorta unattractive.. so even without the fat I'd still be an ugly fuck.
Yes because I'm not a glutton so would easily lose the weight and that would likely make me more attractive.
Having hips/body shape and fully developed breasts instead of these shitty, shallow, undeveloped breasts after years of HRT despite starting young and having the right levels. And most importantly, a real, functioning vagina.
Even if I was unattractive after dropping the weight I'd still go for it as I could just get plastic surgery, since I've had to undergo surgeries and medical procedures for this transition anyway it wouldn't make a difference.
I already look like a fat cis girl. Well did at least, I'm more at "chubby" than fat right now. Anyway no I wouldn't take the chance that it'd undo all my hard work when I'm this close to being thin.
assuming of course i can do both of the following
1) diet and exercise to get rid of the fat.
2) cosmetic surgery to fix the ugliness
it would be just like transitioning, except you start off with a vagina...a real one too! also without the sadness and depression.
honestly even that girl still looks way better than most "average" men since ~90% of men look like shit desu, she just needs some new glasses and needs to learn how to not force herself to smile and do something with her hair
both weight and attractiveness are issues that are way easier to fix if you care to when you're cis, too, so anyone who would say no is just an idiot
>... most men i see have 5 day old scraggly beards and smell gross.
Next time you go outside, go somewhere besides your local game store.
>... real men don't look like that.
You're right. Real men grow their beards for far longer and are polite enough to shower daily.