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>Start new job
>Shy and nervous as fuck
>In high school I was incredibly energetic and skinny which boosted my femininity 10x
>Hard last couple of years, so I've put on a bit of jiggle and I'm kind of burned out, also my skin is rough and broken out
>Been exercising and slowly losing weight
>Working on my butt
>Pic related is my goal butt
>Anyway back to my new job
>My nervousness and anxiety causes me to talk to people in a rough, raspy voice lower in pitch than usual
>I'm automatically trying to act tougher as a defense mechanism because I'm scared
>I'm coming off as a very awkward, quiet guy instead of the level of femininity I used to/ want to be
>They still all seem to like me because I'm polite and do a very good job
>All the while this new nervousness and anxiety is making me feel even more submissive and in need of a protective partner
>Getting a little better each day
>Hopefully I meet at least one friend
>I could really use a friend
i feel alot of /me/ in this post
i'm here for you anon
What about Mako?
No you admit it
If you were one of them you'd never admit it especially like this
Like seriously you would point out how bad everything is for you and stuff
Almost started dating a guy like that almost a year ago, he was rly tall and handsome but ended up being super whiny thing
>tfw at school and cant find the correct class room
used to be like that too. inb4 im still like that
i'm a whiny bitch and i simply can't help it
it's the only thing in my social armament, i was isolated by my parents and around their extreme histrionic bitching 24/7, so i feel on their level anyways
It's not weird that I'm happy they're getting more comfortable presenting and expressing themselves in the way they like best, regardless of how they identify, and are openly claiming their bodily autonomy, is it?
It's not strange that their OP brightened my day?
It's especially bad when you are being a clingy, whiny emotional bitch, and you *know* in the back of your mind, hell in the front of your mind, that you are being that way and you hate it and want to stop it (while it's happening) but you are physically mentally and emotionally incapable of stopping it?
...Is anyone else like this?
hows y'all tonight?
i'm up late forcing myself to finish i project ive been working on for a friend
Aww, thank you for the kind words, Anon. I really appreciate them.
I found something that split the difference in the meanings of my two male given names that had a rhythm similar to my first given name, and that could not easily be shortened. Then I adapted the name my parents would have given me if I'd been born female as a new middle name.
I'm happy with the results.
Well, I made a shortlist including the names of my ancestors, the name my parents would have given me had I been born a girl, the ones they called me when I was a genderfucking teenager, names I liked plus a few suggestions from friends.
Then I ran that list through all of my female friends and removed any they didn't like for whatever reason. I was left with five names, picked the one I liked best from that. It's not exactly common, but it up classes me and people just love it, so I guess that wasn't a bad way to choose.
first name was a name of a girl i knew that i found particularly unique and pretty.
for middle and last names i just picked the name of historical figure that meant a lot to me
don't worry so much about changing it id say. i actually found i couldnt stand my legal name because i was rushed to pick it. i dont really go by it anywhere but legal docs.
Well it's nothing that interesting but when I was eleven my brothers girlfriend give it to me as a name cause we were all roleplaying. I don't remember why or how i've kept it for so long cause i know there was a time I didn't use it anything surprised I didn't forget at some point but here I am, still using it. It's kinda special to me now.
hey how you doin'? :')
Thank you ! It's not a name I use in everyday life but an alias.
I was taking Japanese classes in college (I'm a pathetic weeb, I know), and the standard conversion of the name 'John' into katakana (ジョン) sounds exactly like 'Joan' in English, so when I finally noticed that (I can be slow about these things) I thought that was a neat coincidence and decided to go with it. (I always liked the name, but hadn't really considered it for myself before then.)
>find a character you like
Wait, do you use Madotsuki as your name offline as well? That's adorably chuuni.
Only channers do! but they usually just call me Chijo or Aaron eventually
mtfg, i can't stop watching 90s/early 2000s romance movies. relationships like this are all make believe, r-right?
I dunno, when I first started calling myself Kristina it was just a name I liked, over time it became Kristi tho, which i like better, mostly because of my bimbo fetish tho... I've also been calling myself Kandi but that's probably going to be just an online/bimbo thing, i dunno.
oh lawd, J. lo's edges are divine in that pic, omg
also i just read ur text bby, so who did you shag bby~~~?
Holy fuck, I had completely forgotten this movie. The first and only time I watched it was when I was on a plane when it was relatively new still.
And yes, that kind of thing doesn't really happen IRL. ...Sorry.
The only time I've been confused for a girl was when a meth addict saw me waiting in the car while my dad was getting some stuff at the liquor store, and called me "hey lady" from a distance in order to ask for some money, probably because he just saw my long hair and not my face or body, but then when he got closer he said "oh it's a dude" and sounded disgusted for a fraction of a second before going back to his bullshit story about why he needed twenty bucks. (I didn't give it to him, of course.)
I really hope someday I have a better "confused for a girl" story than that, but at this point I'm not too hopeful.
Honestly, it wasn't that bad. Being called a lesbian by a terf did boost my confidence quite a bit and pretty much prompted me to transition in spite of feeling like I missed the train for that long ago.
But yeah, for three years, it was cheesy romance straight out of a bad movie script and we even had wedding plans...
confused for girl stories?
I got one
>be ~5 yo me
>walk into a pool of water, pants get soaked.
>Mother wraps a jumper around my legs in a skirt like fashion
>We were near a park at the time
>begin talking to this boy
>he thinks I'm a girl
> I've also been calling myself Kandi but that's probably going to be just an online/bimbo thing
I wouldn't recommend going by that name IRL unless you want people to assume that you are a sex worker.
I mean, this was before I even had started on HRT so it wouldn't have been hard to tell. (Actually I basically look exactly the same now except for appearing to have mild gynecomastia. At least I'm finally starting laser in a few weeks...)
>restaurant with parents
>waitress is loud/extroverted af
>"shall we start with you young lady!"
>uh yeah i---
>"oh i'm sorry!! you need to cut that hair! Huehueueheueheuheeh"
say that to my fucking face.
>Mado called me a sweet!
Okay, I can go to sleep happy now. Good night /mtfg/!
as I tower over you with my man height, casting a shadow over you with my man shoulders before I say it to your face with my man voice
> Being called a lesbian by a terf did boost my confidence
Damn, that IS something to be proud of.
How did you know she was a TERF? did you tell her you were trans and she immediately took it back or something?
pfft. how tall are you, chump? i will fucking whup your ass. don't you know i'm trained in honfu?
One time when I was at a gay bar that only had a single unisex bathroom (I only ever see this in gay bars) I went in when all the stalls were full and a very flamboyant gay guy washing his hands was like "Sorry honey all the stalls are full" then he did a double take when I went up and started using a urinal.
Another time I was in a men's restroom, literally using a urinal when a guy walked in, shouted "I'm sorry!" left, then two seconds later came back in with a very confused look on his face.
These were both slightly after I had been starting HRT, but was still more or less using men's rooms because I didn't feel confident going into women's restrooms yet.
my 40 inch ribs and 18 inch shoulders disagree with my hugo face
>but don't worry my skeleton is primed for me to become Mr Universe
bodybuilders need small skeletons buddy.. since points like the wrist serve as a frame of reference for the size of your biceps etc.
>man gets bewildered and leaves
Ahaha i had this exact same thing happen to me once except I was washing my hands. Some guy walks in and is like "oh my bad" and leaves to check the sign on the door. Comes back in looking like he thinks he has Alzheimer's.
>"you told him it was complicated?? what kind of an answer is that?? the only thing complicated between me and him would be unhooking my bra strap"
this movie is so fucking funny lmao!! why don't i remember of this? do you ever watch movies you loved when you were younger, when you're older and realize how many things went over your head as a kid watching it?
kek, I know that feel. You should have just pointed to what you wanted on the menu instead.
>werent you gonna start hrt in a month
bad decision for a bad canvas
Does Dollface still post here?
[spoiler]I kind of hope not[/spoiler]
I distinctly remember getting into several "internet fights" with you back in the early days of /lgbt/ as an anon, but in all honesty, I can't remember what any of them were about.
i have this pic too... kinda
I'm getting more immature by the day... I really ought to do something about the memories of dead twenty-somethings that mess with my mind before I end up completely identifying with one of them...
>Tfw someone on your class doesnt believe your age bcus skittles made you years younger
Idk if good or bad.
I get that a lot. People tend to think I'm five to ten years younger than I am. I suppose taking care of my skin and getting FFS will keep that going. I'll never look like my eighteen year old self again, unfortunately...
>everyone thinks I'm a 16 year old
>tfw trying to teach uni students and they all forget I'm a tutor
I kind of went the 'go really high then come back down' method, though I probably didn't do it properly.
As far as I can tell if you get your pitch high enough the resonance follows suit
>you have bad self-control too
not sure what you mean friend
>tfw no one will ever take the time to make high quality memes about you like this
Huh, never heard that before. I first heard of the method I mentioned from candiFLA, who's since pulled all her videos. If anyone else knows a source claiming similar technique feel free to chime in.
That being said the go to falsetto, then make your pitch sound normal without losing the better resonance from falsetto method worked okay for me. That second step took a damn long while though, possibly because I spent too long on the first
Regardless of what you do go with, I hope it works out for you anon
>mfw I'm still posting on here despite opting out
>I will be the next booger
>you will never doxx liz then show up and drug her with hrt
oh. well i was going to start with pitch regardless since it seems like the 'easier' thing to do.
/mtfg/ doesn't really have any positivity to it so you're probably better off without us. we're all bitches regardless.
For me its an addiction. I have no one else to talk to so I go here, its harmful as fuck to me though because everyone bedsides you and me comes here to brag about their good lives or look for another mtf to fuck. When we post about real trans problems everyone attacks us.
we can do this song and dance for an eternity. okay, not literally though, i only have a year or so left in me. you'll never be TruBooger if you don't at least transition first. :')
me first, insect. you should know better.
how was your sleep?
I don't know about that, I've been clocked once since I went full time and that was right after I did, eighteen months ago or so. I honestly don't even think about passing in my daily life, let alone worry about it. Just being myself is enough.
Ok, being myself has been a bit of a challenge lately, but still...
>mfw anything you ever say
lets go back to when you told a girl who attempted suicide that you have it harder because someone hadn't responded to you in 10 minutes. you are genuinely the one person here I can say I hate, you have quite possibly one of the ugliest personalities I have ever met in my short miserable life
repression is the only way though, I still can't let you die
>I drive a Porsche
NOBODY HAS IT AS BAD AS ME
ye you're ugly, no pass, manly, ugly, poor, no job, ugly, no pass
we get it
Why does everyone hate you again?
Forgive me, I don't browse MTFG too often...
No, but given what I've been through over the past year, I'm pretty confident. I'm an inpatient at a psychiatric clinic and have been for months. If a patient clocked me, or if one of the staff outed me (deliberately or not), everyone would know in a matter of hours. So, far, it hasn't happened. And given it's a rehab place, it's full of violent assholes, so... Feels good to be stealth.
>My point was that we could never know exactly how each other feels
thats some snowflake shit, of course we all know what crippling depression feels like, but only a privileged few have someone reach down and yank them up from poverty and save them
>Are you jealous of people on long term medical leave and pensioners too?
yep, why get paid for not working? Where is the justice in that, while I sit here and get nothing people sitting on their asses somewhere else get enough money for surgery and rent.
At least cancer patients get free room and board and don't have their mothers being evil to them
it wouldn't be the same. I need to post memes or I'll be too sad for this
you'd probably be better off.
>implying I am garbage because I don't get shit handed to me like you do
>At least cancer patients get free room and board and don't have their mothers being evil to them
Yeah, but on the flip side they are dying. ...So yeah...
Also they are usually in constant physical pain.
Yeah, I kind of have a laundry list of, you know, disorders... Occupational burnout, melancholic depression with psychotic features, PTSD... Gender dysphoria is my least issue, really, so they let me manage it my way. Meaning I'll be out of this clinic right in time to fly to Thailand and check in at Chett's clinic...
you deserve a slow painful death. i hope you are the one that cancer rips and tears apart. you deserve nothing. nothing.
suffer for the rest of your ugly miserable life you fucking weed.
A person who has everything like you do has no right getting on to me. You drive a new high end luxury car, you pass, you are full time, I bet you even have a vagina. You don't have the right to be a cunt to people like me with less opportunities than you.
i have every right to shut down, shit on, or otherwise belittle disgusting weeds like you. i hope someone salts the earth of your life.
you deserve nothing. you will always be ugly. you will never get what you want. you will never be pretty. nobody will ever look at you lovingly. you are a disgusting fetishist. you deserve endless, boundless, unending pain and suffering for the rest of your ugly life.
>sheen comes to visit the patients and bring them hand knitted beanies
>lizbell is a young cis girl with the mind of a 40 year old man
>kiwi is a warden who tried to sell the girls out for a few $
>angie was committed under false claims and stays in the corner watching filthy frank videos
>kuppy plays cards in the middle of the room with elanna and kit
I'm not creative enough to come up with more
I actually have a full body xray somewhere and I look like wolverine in it
here is one with the surgery to try and salvage my knee but they cut it all out and went with titanium.
I am the only tru trans mtf there, mother had me committed so she could have a place to dump me
Do you go around claiming to be trutrans all the time because you're trying to silence that voice in your head that says you're nothing but a perverted fetishist? btw trutrans dont post their dick on /b/ so you can stop trying to hide the lie that is your life.
I'm just a femboy not mtf but you probably know more
>hrt for the last 7 months
>voice in my head just saying "i'm not a girl" over and over and over
Started a few days ago. Comes and goes. Is this like my mind resisting the drugs?
Thats just dysphoria fucking with you.
Dysphoria only hurts, never helps.
You fight through that shit.
You'd think a group of people who complain about how gatekeepy their situation is would be a little less quick to judge and label people. I had low self esteem before, and even now looking back at old photos, i hate it. Now i'm a lot happier with my appearance, and i barely have anxiety anymore. Its not that it didnt do any good. About as much as it did for all of you
these guys are just being faggots
if hrt makes you happier it doesn't matter if you're not trans
you do you
i think those passing thoughts are just guilt from the expectations of culture now
dude lol shut the fuck up you elitist pig. if they make anon happier at the end of the day its their decision and its not wrong. dumb trash like you should shut the fuck up and stop being a judgemental trashfriend here of all places.
HOLY FUCK you LITERALLY have the exact same mutant powers as one of the most badass and greatest x-men of all time and are living the comic book dream of every kid from the mid to late 90's and could probably go out and fight fucking crime right now and shit with your super exoskeleton and fuck and you have the NERVE to complain to us regular no-powered normies on an anonymous anime image and discussion board.
Holy fuck uimk so amngry i camnt evebn type straighyhhjt artgfrtrrrrrrr
this is a terrible place to go to if youre ACTUALLY confused
>IE think you're not a girl when you really are
if you don't automatically think you're full on then you'll be despised because people here are literal human scum
you're probably a suppressed trans though, and even if not if you feel better from HRT in general then ultimately you're not making any wrong decisions
just disregard the stupid bullshit retards spew.
honestly if you feel better emotionally and more at peace with your appearance after HRT than before, you might be suppressed trans
you generally don't feel the emotional change unless something clicks with the hormones
if it was just a phase i think you'd have had shallower emotions than you describe
it's worth more than retards like you than shit on people literally instantly because you categorize them into a group and antagonize them
and like the predictable mongol you are you're just gonna respond to this with shitposting disregarding what i just said and ultimately proving the stereotype
SOMEONE with their shit together has to slap you dimwitted garbagehounds into reality every now and then.
It seems like the diet and exercise tips link in the pastebin is down? That's kind of a priority for me right now since it's
a. something I can do in my current environment where I'm not really comfortable actively transitioning (living with family is rough)
b. something I've been wanting to focus on in general since it's a definite contributor to general concerns about my experience
And in general, what would you guys recommend in terms of small steps I can take to get closer to where I want to be while I'm living somewhere where it's not really comfortable for me to be openly trans?
not yet, but you probably will start to regret it rather sooner than later, or fuck up your dosages or something and then look for professional help. at least that usually happens. for that reason my country has high hurdles normal transpeople have to jump through, to sort out people like you.
youre pretty annoying. did you tell your twink to come here and ask us or was it his decision?
>youre pretty annoying
lmfao right back atcha new friend
bet within 2 weeks you'll drop your trip and go back to shitting on people anonymously like the big man you are
fucking degenerate, really lmfao...... thank you for tripping though so at least i can filter you now. fuckin kike.
You know, hrt isn't handed out willy nilly by doctors, being trans has to be or should be diagnosed in a person before hrt is administered or guess what, people who aren't trans takes it and they end up detransing and making it harder for real trans people to be taken credibly.
It makes me feel better. Why shouldnt i do it just because you think it's wrong? It's taken me from depressed, self hating and miserable to actually liking what I look like in the mirror, feeling pretty balanced as a person. I'm not 'normal' in that respect but i at least feel close to it.
Your only retort is that because i dont fit into your expectations, i should just be how i was. Doesnt seem fair to me desu senpai.
>Why shouldnt i do it just because you think it's wrong?
you misunderstand. I think its wrong because you will probably regret it at some point. and for that reason, it is retarded.
it also makes shit harder for other people, but thats not my problem with what youre doing.
what's your basis for saying that anon self medding while presenting as male will ever regret it?
it's not like they'd have to backpedal on telling friends and family that they're trans when they're not. all they have to do is stop self medding if they don't want to anymore.
I honestly wish you the best of luck!
well he'll either have to stop fairly soon or he'll start growing proper tits. I dunno, but depending on his genes, that will not make his life easier if he plans to continue presenting as a male.
it will be harder to get a bf/gf that way, especially past a certain age. he cant just stop E and only take AA either, cause thats really bad for the bones
if hes unlucky and his gonads athropy too much he might lose his fertility, something thats usually pretty important to cismales as well.
I dont really see how this is supposed to turn out well in 5 or 10 years. but maybe he'll prove me wrong. I certainly hope so.
since everyone's too busy being shit to respond to you, i recommend the /fit/ sticky. it has a lot of resources you can use.
calculate your TDEE, your BMR, then stick to that. if you're more serious about your physique we literally just had a leddit post about this posted a few threads back
do you have anything more specific you want to work on? any particular goals?
Fertility doesnt really matter to me. Im kinda past that, i'm gay anyway. As for tits i usually just wear big sweaters. I'm not looking for a bf right now. I dont know what im going to do about that either.
When i first started taking them the plan was to either stop or come out as trans once i knew around the 3 month mark, but when i stopped i just felt like shit again and panicked
I mean right now it's mostly just weight. Rough experiences over the past couple years have meant I gained a lot of weight just from pure stress. I'm up to nearly 180 which looks awful when you're 5'8" and it's all man-gut which obviously isn't helpful when you just finally got okay with the idea of transitioning.
This stuff will be really useful. I mean honestly I just kinda wanna be slim and have a nice butt and a body that's conducive to actually transitioning and looking reasonably girly.
I mean, in terms of appearance in general my other big concern is I have really stubborn facial and body hair because of my stupid Czech genetics so tips on getting rid of that as effectively as possible would be nice.
willing to bet his future on it? I am not.
I am pretty skinny, at 5'8 and like 54kg. I still got 75B. sweaters wouldnt hide this in my case. admittedly, this took like 3 years.
I didnt expect to get more than A though (my mum and my sister both have a's and their BMI is higher than mine)
body hair will fade a little on hrt, your results will vary. you'll need to get laser for your face.
for losing weight, it's actually really simple as long as you can control your urges (as a recovering anorexic it is a little easier for me to control my urges to eat but it's still hard for me sometimes)
just take baby steps. don't look to replace all of your meals with leaves, don't just chow down on fruit. get myfitnesspal or fitbit, count the CALORIES on everything. nothing else. go as low as you can every day, but don't beat yourself up if you go over it. my advice is set an incredibly low target, like 1300 calories a day, but allow yourself to go over it if you absolutely need to. that way if you lose to temptation you'll still probably lose weight. just keep it steady, try to do some light cardio every day (i don't recommend running, it's shit to keep up) maybe cycle-machine or swimming? something that's comfortable for you.
don't get mad if you don't see results instantly too, for the love of fuck. weigh yourself every 2 weeks and pin the results to your wall so you can SEE things happening. you're in it for the long haul, but you can do it.
Took a bunch of codeine, went in for laser session number six. The technician turned it up higher than last time but didn't tell me. Holy fuck it felt like being stung by a wasp, it's been relaxing the last two times
Thanks m8. Helps a lot.
Grew up on the bay so swimming's a passion of mine, would like to get back into that and capoeira actually.
I figured I'd probably have to turn to laser or something similar for the facial hair. It's a real problem. If I shave in the morning I have stubble before bed.
I think I'm one of the 10% of people that can't metabolise it because it does literally nothing. I have a load of it left over as pain management after recent surgery but it doesn't actually do anything. Fuck codeine
Good morning boys... and other.
How are ya' all on this unseasonably warm day?
So you haven't experienced any side effects from taking too much sugar pills?
/r/transpassing and other cringe inducing subreddits (not to mention this board) really drives home the point that sugar pills do not require nearly as much effort as other aspects of transition.
>kayla still hasn't killed herself
Why would I kill myself when today is the day I am buying a new fuel system for my truck?
you do look like a normal tall woman though
so there is that
You seem the miss the point that everyone here is fucked in some way or other. It's just varying degrees of how much.
Unfortunately that stupid, confused man has been replaced by an even more annoying sissy.
I lied, I never rolled it. I just don't want to sell it, but the fuel system did get wiped out so I can't drive to get my hrt refill 100 miles away until I fix it, but you bus and train city folk would know nothing about using tools.
>buy your jetta or something else that is girly and more suited to yourself
The jetta is like $20 grand, selling my truck would get me like all of $3,000 if that. Plus having a truck is an invaluable asset because I can haul stuff around in it.
no pranks, only cuddles.
my prank is that I'm still posting on a tranny board despite going back into the closet. this is some boyardee's tier ravioli
we are going to go back in time and pluck you out of your timeline then insert you back into before your mom and dad met and make your mom fall in love with you instead and the only way for you to survive is to procreate with your mom
people like kayla were a stern reminder I should just die a man instead of being associated with that
>i don't think kayla counts honestly.
>angie defending kayla