>>5645027 They never let you touch their dick, and they only have one hole in back, so it's like fucking half a woman. The firmer muscles that Y chromosome gives feel good to slap against, so that sort of makes up for it though.
If only trannies would realize that if they would just let me play with their dick and at least let me jerk them off for fun while I'm fuckin' em, they'd be like half a girl and half a boy, which is pretty much superior to two halves of either.
Hell, it feels good for 'em, they have those pleasure nerves in their cock just like me. I don't see what the problem is.
Trannies are weird man, but if that's your thing, then more power to ya. Be ready to deal with their bullshit though.
It's because of gender identity disorder to which transitioning is the treatment. Which is a dissociative body syndrome, not all trans women have body dysphoria centering on the peen. People transition for themselves usually as the alternative to suicide, it's really not about them realizing how they can fit your fetish better. Just ask before sex.
>>5645058 >They never let you touch their dick Depends on the girl. >The firmer muscles If they work out/are early on. Muscle degeneration/increased body fat ratios happen on hormones, though. > don't see what the problem is. Dysphoria. We don't really expect you to understand it, really. But it does depend on the girl.
>>5645058 I would probably let someone rub my penis on the outside of the underwear. I just really don't like seeing it, so if you're prepared to play with it like you're performing a magic trick I'd probably be OK. But don't expect to flop it out and start stroking it for all to see cuz that's uncomfortable.
>>5645134 HRT can affect your penis, specifically anti-androgens. Of common ones, spironolactone and cyproterone acetate regularly affect erections and sexual function, whereas bicalutamide only sometimes does.
Enjoying erection and genital stimulation varies a lot. In my case, I have fairly mild genital dysphoria. I could play along for a partner's benefit, like with any other fetish I don't share, but my enjoyment is from their enjoyment. So if their enjoyment is from mine, that's a lot of acting we could have avoided.
PiV probably should feel similar? A slightly smoother, likely smaller penis that (mostly) doesn't ejaculate shouldn't feel all that different from any other penis. The rest of sex should probably feel different depending on a lot of factors, given the effects of HRT.
>>5645190 Like, if I were with another trans woman who feels the same? Her preferences would dictate a part of it, but it's not exactly hard to make me a quivering wreck with physical stimulation of my other erogenous zones, and my nipples are another level entirely.
>>5645027 >So.. what is having sex with an mtf ACTUALLY like?
I have been with a lot of trannies familia, I will break it down by race.
ASIAN >"o-o-ok anon y-you can f-fuck me now" The meme is that Asians are the best trannies, IME Filipinos are decent but all other Asians are horrible in bed. They lay there like dead fish, make pain filled faces and sounds like they are being ass raped, show no emotion or passion for their top, terrible kissers, and tend to have no personality. If you can get your Asian tranny to make eye contact with you one time while you are fucking, then you have won the game.
Did I mention they are boring as fuck and have no personality?
BLACK/MIXED >"thats right get that boipussy daddy, get it" Black trans girls are universally pretty good in bed, they will let you fuck deep and hard, are good kissers, and understand how to cater to their top. On the other hand they tend to have shitty voices, more muscular bodies, and a penchant for retarded tranny drama and niggerdom (like stealing).
Worst part about black trannies: >"will you take me to the mall daddy?" >"can I get some pocket change out ya?" >"are you gonna help me out since you are fucking me in my ass?" >"I need my hair and nails done" >"do you have something for me daddy?" >"hey boo boo can you give me a few dollars?"
Always this shit 2bh pham ALWAYS
WHITE (pale, Anglo-Saxon) >"Hey anon lets have sex :3 !!!?!!!" A mixed bag 2bh, lots of variation, commonalities I notice are near universal mild autism, mild mental illness (depression, being neurotic, etc), and love of video games, but tend to be well mannered. Often dont pass near as well as they think they do, and are typically mediocre in bed.
Typical sexual encounter with white trans girl: >"wait wait wait wait wwwwwwait anon, more lube ! be gentle !" Its not even in yet.... >"fuck me like im ur bitch" K >"OWWW not that hard please" the fuck? >autistic moaning the fuck? >eyes closed "open your eyes and look at me babe" >"im trying but its really hard, it feels so good" the fuck? >"was it good for you bb? It will get better the more comfortable we get with each other" [spoiler: it never really gets much better] >"will you cuddle with me? :3" yea >"anon are you falling asleep?!?!" is there a problem? >"no... its just that you said you would cuddle with me, thats all" the fuck? >"anon, so am I your girlfriend now? :3" the fuck? >"ok I will give you a massage" 5mins later >"wanna go play video games?" the fuck?
LATINA >"bust my ass open papi (:" Latinas are an extremely diverse group, the commonality is not racial but cultural and bound together by Spanish (or Portuguese) language. The best Latinas are Amerindians mixed with Spaniard or other Europid. They kiss well, they bottom perfectly, and put forth actual effort to cater to their top and make him as happy as possible; the only real downside is they like to fight, and tranny drama.
Typical sexual encounter with Latina trans girl: >"ay Papi fuck me, fuck my ass" >"harder" >"HARDER motherfucker" lol damn girl >she is talking retarded shit about how you are the best ever, etc about to cum >she has that locked in gaze, knows you are about to cum, grabs the back of your head, and digs her knees and thighs into your ribs >"shoot it daddy, shoot it" OMFG, cum buckets >she cleans off my dick with her mouth >straddles my back and gives me a massage until I pass the fuck out >wakes me up couple of hours later >"Papi, take me to my moms house, she made Carnitas for you" Goddamn
Latina trannies best trannies 2bh familia pic related, perfection http://imgur.com/i6DXdak
>>5645058 dear anon next time you fuck one do this: >>her on top reverse cowgirl >>(either sit in a chair or on the edge of the bed and basically have her sit in your lap) >>when you reach around front to jerk her off stop >>make ilu with hand, aka drake hotline bling, aka yo you want a magarita too >>ring finger and middle finger curl around the head so your fingertips rest on the frenum nerve. >>pressure your palm down / on the shaft >>make come here motion with ring and middle finger together on the frenum nerve.
that's prolly the best you'll get anon. even if they're really dysphoric they should be ok with this because looking down from their pov you're basically fingering them as if they had a vag (motion, position, line of vision). goodluck. you kinda have to be good with your hands / fingers. be gentle / playful with the head / frenum nerve. learn to judge based on their reaction. procede to make them cum buckets
there's other things you can do, but vary based on your dick.
>>5646182 >Ayyy anything is possible senpai, just relaying my experiences and the stereotypes I have encountered... Well I'm a pale trans girl and fit most of the "white" criteria (mild autism, neurotic, depressed, video games, compliments from men wherever I go but I don't think I pass well besides my voice), but I've never messed around with a guy before outside of oral. I'd imagine it would be kinda awkward and painful the first time for myself, unless it was one of those passionate, swept off my feet sort of deals like those books with Fabio on the cover. Even then, I doubt that sort of confidence and comfort with sex and one's body comes naturally for people in this generally repressed society without at least some practice.
I also don't think it's unreasonable to want a man who just came inside of me unprotected to be the big spoon for a little bit, or stick around for longer than a single night.
>but wait are you saying that Black and Latinas are sluts? Nope, I'm saying the ones you've met seem more sexually and romantically experienced with men. From your description, they come across as comfortable enough with themselves to get fucked and cummed in by a random dude they barely know and go with the flow after like it's no big deal, inviting him to meet their mom and eat her food, or hitting him up for cash like he's their parent.
Also, with all of this condom-less sex with all of these people... are you getting tested?
Yea I know doe, but if I fall asleep while cuddling, dont be a fag and wake me up and pretend im not cuddling.... sleep cuddling counts familia.
>or stick around for longer than a single night
Stick around? What? Im right here bae... with u :^)
>Also, with all of this condom-less sex with all of these people
I never implied all or any of my sex was bareback.... thats irresponsible and dangerous 2bh pham :^)
I almost always have protected sex, but I have guidelines. I would never have bareback sex with a black trans girl even if she was HWP, I never have bareback sex with people that specifically ask for it on a hookup because it makes me paranoid they are slutty or bug chasers. If its a nerdy white girl it depends, if I have any indication they are sexually experienced I typically wont do it, if they ask me to wear protection I wont argue; and my experience is that pretty much all white girls and asians will ask that you wear protection on hookups.... but I would be lying if I said I hadnt topped bare for some white trans girls without seeing papers doe. Latinas I wont bareback until we get tested together or if they are current HWP I will take that, and then cream that boipussy :P
>are you getting tested?
Of course.... I got an A+ ... im positive :^)
Nah, jk the test results came back and confirmed I am pure cancer :^)
All joking aside, yeah I get tested a few times per year, plus I have had multiple HPV vacs, never had a serious STD I am aware of, when I got an expensive panel done one time though I did have some types of HPV (which is why I started getting Vacs), but the Dr said its normal and none were the serious strains.... pretty sure he was just trying to shill and scare me into purchasing vacs.... his name was Dr.Goldman after all.... :^)
>>5645134 I can still get it up after a couple years on hrt but I prefer not to. At this point not much comes out and it's clear.
>>5645190 There's lots of ways to get off, I mean I can't count how many times I've seen bitter trolls whining that lesbian sex isn't sex period.
Personally my partner likes to eat my ass and I really like bdsm stuff of being tied up and held down and bitten and slapped and stuff, also >>5645223 erogenous zones are pretty great, also >>5645140 though that has more dysphoria-potential.
>>5646357 >Yea I know doe, but if I fall asleep while cuddling, dont be a fag and wake me up and pretend im not cuddling.... sleep cuddling counts familia. That's a really specific request for a really specific person that isn't me, anon.
>Stick around? What? Im right here bae... with u :^) Weak lines don't keep me safe and warm at night.
>I almost always have protected sex, but I have guidelines. I would never have bareback sex with a black trans girl even if she was HWP, I never have bareback sex with people that specifically ask for it on a hookup because it makes me paranoid they are slutty or bug chasers. If its a nerdy white girl it depends, if I have any indication they are sexually experienced I typically wont do it, if they ask me to wear protection I wont argue; and my experience is that pretty much all white girls and asians will ask that you wear protection on hookups.... but I would be lying if I said I hadnt topped bare for some white trans girls without seeing papers doe. Latinas I wont bareback until we get tested together or if they are current HWP I will take that, and then cream that boipussy :P Well at least you're mostly responsible.
>Nah, jk the test results came back and confirmed I am pure cancer :^) You really are. It's like an axe commercial became sentient and learned how to type.
>>5645027 Depends on the woman actually. One was into having her dick touched, others weren't. Some are into anal some aren't. As long as sex isn't just "I put my stuff into your stuff" you can still have a bunch of fun.
>>5645058 Some of us don't care if you touch it the thing is for some of us it's actually painful. Personally I still love to masturbate and like the feeling I get from my dick but I have to ride or hump stuff now cause grabbing it just flat out hurts like a bitch.
>>5645231 >some have really bad penile dysphoria im at the point of crying whenever i get an erection, thats how bad my genital dysphoria is. im like this anon >>5645195 because i cant handle it at all
>>5646733 Is it sad that I wish I was in your situation?... literally the only thing I'm fine about my body is my penis (with the exception of random erections.. but that's more of an annoyance than anything)... shit makes me feel invalidated as fuck.
>>5653420 >I can't tell if this is trolling or just retarded
Basically retardation, seems like a person that has never actually been with a trans girl but reads shit like /lgbt/ which can skew your opinion of real life because you hear trannies say stuff on this board that I have just never actually encountered IRL. Such as "muh severe penis dysphoria", I mean I suppose it exists but the trannies that have it are probably autists that dont try to hookup or meet prospective male partners so I have just never seen them.
I have met trans girls that will mention "I am bottom only, just so you know" every other sentence when you first meet up. As if all of a sudden you are going to turn to them and tell them that they need to fuck you or you will kill them or some shit. As a matter of fact I did not even know about dysphoria until I started coming to /lgbt/, because out of all of the trans girls I have been with not one has ever explained it. I knew that trans girls are consciously aware they are not cis females, and that they are extremely insecure and jelly about that, but I didnt know about dysphoria itself; I dont know if thats because most trannies (young, from big city) IRL dont know about dysphoria themselves because they have never been to a therapist or if its because they didnt want to look autistic by talking about it.
The way that anon talks they are referring to plural trannies that they have been with that have severe penis dysphoria, kind of insinuating that all trannies have it and since I have never experienced it once I just find it hard to believe that its true.... Then again maybe they are being a beta fag and going about things the wrong way "excuse me m'lady would you mind if I play with ur dick? :^) ". I dont know how well that goes over. My experience is that if you are dominant and she is into you, the girl will go along with whatever you want. That goes for cis or trans.
>>5654272 >be dominant and attractive; not autistic >she'll go along Pretty much this. Although other anon has a point. An mtf i've been seeing went full retard-defensive because I accidentally referred to her dick as "dick" when we were talking about our bodies. Wtf am I supposed to say? I get that she hates that she's not cis but seriously am I really supposed to say "clit" or something along those lines? I thought that was just for AGPs and sissies.
>>5654445 >barbaric Good. Harsh methods usually promise results.
Personally I'd love to date but I know it's just gonna be a mess with me not wanting sex. Call me an autist if that makes you feel better but my disgust for my junk is real. Can see myself easily freaking out if someone as much as touched it.
>>5654272 I wish I could kill off every contributor to the PUA movement in their mothers' wombs. They're not doing their disciples any favours. Why not start at the top.
You sound like a real piece of work. You spent most of that long post denigrating, dismissing the opinions of, mocking, and promoting ignoring the preferences of trans women. With an attitude like yours, I really don't wonder at why no trans woman you've spoken to has felt like sharing her experiences of discomfort or shame with her body. After all, you'd just call her an autist anyway. I hope no girl who has strong negative feelings about her penis ever hooks up with you.
>>5654540 Yeah I can understand not wanting it to be touched, but how do you react to someone calling your junk a penis, dick, cock or anything like that? Does it make you bitch out? I'm just genuinely curious.
>>5654640 Most conversations I had about SRS were about "don't do it, neovags are gross. Stay a trap, I wouldn't touch a neovag ever, at least you got a butt still" Well, newsflash, I'm doing this for myself, not anyone else. And I got nothing to say about my junk except that I direly want it gone and certainly wont look back.
>>5654678 And that's perfectly valid as long as you know exactly what you're getting into in terms of recovery and all that shit. You must really really despise your genitals though if you're willing to put yourself through such trauma. A lot of people don't understand this.
>>5654701 >A lot of people don't understand this. Indeed and all I ever hear is how much less desireable I'll be after SRS. Which is why I'd rather not talk about it at all cause that's plain annoying and frustrating. Wouldn't mind a normal discussion, but I only ever managed to have those with other trannies.
>>5654584 Akaka you are literaly the reincarnation of autistic trans reddit hons who give their opinion on everything while having no experience in anything. You are probably llike a 30 year old virgin who was a beta male lecturing men on "how to date". Please refrain
lol k maybe you dont know who I am familia. One day..... you may :^)
>You sound like a real piece of work
Thank you :D
>You spent most of that long post denigrating, dismissing the opinions of, mocking, and promoting ignoring the preferences of trans women
Wow stay triggered sweetie... did I trigger you? I never see you get triggered Akaka and you post in every thread on the board so everybody knows that you dont get any dick. I must have touched you in a special place to get you so flustered bb.... I feel accomplished now :^)
>I hope no girl who has strong negative feelings about her penis ever hooks up with you.
Me neither 2bh familia, im allergic to autism it makes me sneeze :^)
>>5654672 >I love your posts. They make me want to sleep with you
I sleep with myself every night, its pretty uncomfortable 2bh, im a creeper, very rapey, and constantly trying to touch my penis :^)
If you are a qt3.14, submissive, fem, trans girl in the US then your dream might become a reality familia.... I like to play rough doe :P
>>5654723 >Its only hot to say daddy if the guy does it first
nigga u wot?!?!? xD
>Otherwise its weird and desperate
Its hot stop typing. Only 20yr old DYEL fuckbois dont like it, because it makes them feel insecure... you know this to be true :\
I am a trans woman who has had sex with another trans woman. It's kind of awkward, as you both know how uncomfortable each other's penises make you, but it's easy to trust that your partner won't judge you for it since they know exactly what it's like.
>>5654994 I always imagined it could be really emotionally satisfying. It's like the ultimate gay relationship (FtM-FtM too) because you've gone through the exact same thing in a much more deepening way than two cis people for example.
>>5654993 >incapacitated for like 2 years Bloody hell I hope not. Life will be pretty awkward though, can't deny that. Worst is gonna be being all alone in Thailand bound to the bed. Guess I'll be around 4chan a LOT that time.
>>5654994 >Not to say I didn't orgasm three times. Ugh, wow. I so wanna make that experience with another tranny sometime.
>>5655342 I knew what I needed so I saved up a lot while I still had a job, made about 10k since I started HRT, got a good deal when I quit that job and have some financial support from my family too. I was very very lucky in that regard. Probs also gonna get BA after SRS... but luckily that doesn't take as much planning.
>>5654529 The fraudulent pretenders that don't commit to transition because they're doing it as a fad. It's a fashion piece, a way to make themselves more interesting instead of developing a coherent personality. They don't know what being trans actually is, so they create these little mythologies and circle them around to each other, and play up their own theatrical expressions of the symptoms in shouting matches or obscure blogs. In the 80s, people pretended to be Lesbian for attention. In the 90s, they pretended to be Bisexual for attention. Now they pretend to be Trans for attention, and are actively fucking up legislation and medical requirements doing so.
I would think it's just like having buttsex with/as a girl, except if you want to give her some manual/oral stimulation it will be a penis instead of a vagina. some mtfs aren't into being touched there though, so you should check ahead of time.
Well it used to be a lot easier because I lived in Chicago... go look at Chicago CList and Backpage.... yea hella trannies familia. I am somewhat decent looking, and me, so I made friends with all the little underage b& 16, 17, 18yr old prostitutes on Backpage, helped them get decent hotel rooms and alcohol for their parties, helped them get into nightclubs, etc. They introduced me to all of their friends. I had a nice job at a corporation based in the affluent Chicago suburbs, and a nice truck, so ofc to be validated most of the broke little hoodrats threw the pussy at me to try and get wifed. EZ mode 2bh.
Now I live in a sleepy little 140k population college city downstate, ~500k population in a 50mile radius so I still hit up CList... meh mostly pretty femboi CDs pretending to be trans now but its whatever, every once in a while I will meet a decent looking girl on hormones.
I have met a few girls on /lgbt/ as well, going to visit one in a few weeks :3
>how do i find guys like you that arent beta autistic chasers
Well first off meeting anyone is much easier if you live in or near a mega city like NYC, Chicago, LA, London, Paris, Mexico City, etc just pure numbers familia.
CList pretty much go to for trans hookups in metro areas. Exchange pics, exchange Skype, talk to them if you dont like what you see/hear then say "k thx bai" and remove them..... thats what I do familia.
You can use Facebook, dating sites, apps as well but my understanding is that they are shit tier for trans connections so I have never even bothered 2bh. You can use 4Chin as well just post in PassGen with your pic and a comment like "Do I pass? 22/Cali need some dick 2bh lol" and wait for someone to hit on you, if they arent your type then drop their ass.... not really hard 2bh.
Well there are many lessons you can learn by studying Hannibal, but if there is only one lesson you learn let it be this: PREPARATION IS THE KEY TO SUCCESS.
You should always assume that people are capable of what they say they are, and more. The absolute worst thing you can do is underestimate someone, never do that pham, dont even let the thought enter your mind. Its better to prepare for a Jedi and have a 7yr old with a plastic lightsaber show up than vice versa... if you understand my metaphor pham.
I have traded pics and spoken with a handful of people from this board, I doubt any of them think I am "all talk". Anyone that thinks im not 100, and has to deal with me will be at a severe disadvantage ... fine by me :)
>>5654744 >So basically you are an autisitc dude. Nah.
>doesn't pass well Men flirt with me all the time, and no one calls me a man either purposely or by accident, but I'm self-conscious and have severe gender dysphoria so I doubt I'll ever feel like I pass well enough whether I do or not. But even if I said I passed perfectly with no flaws no one would believe me because we're both anonymous people on 4chan. It's pointless to lie about my insecurities.
>Why even bother commenting when you have no experience in sex or as a girl I've had plenty of experience with sex, and with being fucked, just not by men.
Well if you are smart and you put in the time and effort you will be able to find my CL post based on what I wrote. Im not hiding.... the pics in the post I have posted here on this board before, and my faced is covered.... but why should I make things easy for you anon?
Wanna play a game anon? You do like games dont you? :^)
>lol Chicago. Makes sense why you fuck so many black girls then and why you like latinas
Yeah a lot of mixed girls will lie and say they are Cuban or Puerto Rican ...... trixed again oh well xD
And yeah Chicago aka Northern Mexico.... hope u like Latinas if you come here 2bh familia xD
>>5658249 Can a tranny be a chaser? Thinking about it, I feel like I'd most enjoy living with another tranny. Is this just my insecurities? I'm not opposed to normal people, but an average day with a tranny who got their shit somewhat together sounds much more fun.
I'm crushing on one but she's got a friend. Never felt such a sting before.
>>5658058 Man, this got really fucking creepy VERY quickly. You seem like an egotistical fucking degenerate beneath all of your emoticons and Urban Dictionary-researched memes.
I'm going to guess you're well into your 40's or 50's and have just enough social skills and looks to succeed at your sex quests without actually resembling anything that would be productive in our society.
>>5645058 >at least let me jerk them off for fun while I'm fuckin' em i wouldn't mind that and actually that's even my thing but my only problem with it is that it hurts. idk maybe it's because i have a foreskin and HRT made it even more sensitive to touch and the only true pleasure i can get out of it is by fingering its frenulum so yeah if i got mad at a guy for touching my dick it would be not because i am crazy but because it's not enjoyable for me at all just my two cents senpai
>>5661518 I really like erotica for developing a more diverse repertoire of fantasies. The authors spend enough time building the characters, the scenes, and the sex, that it's really easy to convert them to your use. My go-tos are bondage with light-SM, questionable exhibitionism, and mutual first-times, as well as all the usual boring vanilla stuff, and sappy romantic everyday life stuff.
Dont bet your health and well being on that one familia.
I mean you came into a thread specifically about sex with/as MtFs .... what were you expecting? Boy Scouts talking about fingerbanging cis girls? If you really wanna know right now its mainly only cis girls for me, because femboi CDs are disgusting.... especially if they dont wax their legs.
My game is pretty fucking retarded tho I will give you that :P
>>5645058 >>5645058 >>>5645027 (OP) >They never let you touch their dick, and they only have one hole in back, so it's like fucking half a woman. The firmer muscles that Y chromosome gives feel good to slap against, so that sort of makes up for it though. I still love my boyfriend playing with it. Fuck, I let him. >If only trannies would realize that if they would just let me play with their dick and at least let me jerk them off for fun while I'm fuckin' em, they'd be like half a girl and half a boy, which is pretty much superior to two halves of either. I know, right? I wanted to suck my ex gf off so badly. >Hell, it feels good for 'em, they have those pleasure nerves in their cock just like me. I don't see what the problem is. Neither do I.
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