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good night grills
never forget to stay hopeful and do your best !
why do i persist if i know ffs/srs is out of reach?
>tfw sometimes you worry that you're not actually trans but an otherkin whose other self coincidentally happens to also be a human
Oh and to the anon I missed who asked if you're around I'm into everything, boy girls don't matter.
Maddie please don't fall into the trap of seeking validation through love, down that road lies a lot of pain.
I posted about otherkin last thread, I see people asking how we can be real if these fucks who claim they're not even human aren't real. It gets really annoying and otherkin are actively harming us because they want to be special snowflakes while we have an actual reason for all this.
Slowly increase your interaction with them over time
If you're really that bad with it, can you do grocery shopping? Just speak to the cashier a tiny bit. It's basically their job to make small talk lol
Or if you have any hobbies try to find other people who are into it too and become friends with them!
What a pan
Being intersex doesn't mean you can't be a girl any more than being male means you can't be a girl, though... (Mado's a cute no matter what she is or how she identifies, so it doesn't matter anyways.)
>looks more fat afterwards
>hair looks ugly wet too
IKR, idk whats up with that
maybe its like if you have naturally slights curls?? (like nothing super curly, but just a wee bit) bcus they like stick to each other when wet and it makes you look like a wet rat or something gross
ehe that might be it
but oh my god its the only way, melting showers *-* gaaah
>maybe its like if you have naturally slights curls??
I have a little more than slight but it just looks like idek a wet dog when my hairs wet lol idgi
And it takes foreverrrrr to drive too.
Caddyyy what's wrong s:
Pan ppl are usually cool tho tbqh senpai
I think I spotted a real female hiding in the picture.
>that one man in a bright pink wedding bridesmaid dress
This is why so many people think AGP is a real thing because that is AGP as fuck. Someone put trip names on all these because it is our future.
Never going to a trans support meeting
/mtfg/ is good enough
In the middle, to the top left of the one in red, in front of someone in blue
Someone posted the link earlier "Femme Fever"
Lots of beautifuls womens
Well thats it. This image just made me gag and cleared all thoughts in my brain of wanting to be a girl. Theres no hope in this path and this is what is out there representing us. No wonder it took 20+ years of living before I ever heard anything good about being trans.
They are "natural traps' ;)
Imagine the permeating smell of man sweat filling the room
Do you have a therapist, does said therapist feel comfortable dealing with gender stuff?
Do you know of an informed consent clinic in the area? Do you know a doctor who could help you get mones? If all of this is too much waiting, would you be okay self-medicating while you wait?
Depending on where you are resources vary a lot in what they do and help for.
Look at this chaser in the front, such a pimp.
He got all the gt that night.
1. Middle front green dress; jaundiced face
2. Far right; needing them spanx
3. Me, in the far back in the red, not standing on anything, just 8 ft tall
4. Middle blue dress, not bad!
and last but not least
5. The black lady in the middle left pink dress, i HOPE shes slouching or her physique is that of a gorilla in the least racist mannerism possible, built like a fridge.
What... What am I doing here? What am I doing with my life?
Normally I am not one to believe in agp shit, but holy fuck ....
They are all wearing shitty dresses, horrile make up, that would give me a run for my money if I wore make up a lot, pantyhose, I mean maybe for some outfits, but centerinally open toed, shit. I mean some of them pass in the second one as old ladies, but most pass just about as mcuh as I do.
okay now I know you are just ripping this shit from cross dresser websites
good on you hon.
I am going to go have my three shots and fap. First drinking alone in three months ... I had a good run, but I feel like getting drunk tonight.
I'm not making fun, I'm just feeling a bit sick seeing everything I'm insecure about and hate about myself amplified and embraced to such an extreme.
hrt and losing weight worked so well for you. Good job.
losing weight maybe, but hrt did nothing major other than soften my skin. Laser, growing hair to frame my face and getting my eye brows threaded did the lion share of the work.
I still can't get a bf to save my life. I suppose i can get a mtf too, but fuck anything born with a vagina. A post op transgirl is fine though.
>these people will be the first thing my family will think of when they think transgender
the closet seems pretty nice actually
well they are transgender, but not transsexual. I know all this lgbt speak is bullshit .....
yeah, I watch joe goes and he went to a place that did that sort of thing.
I remember that picture getting taken. I was dying. I didn't mean to grow the fucking beard either. i was in deinal about having a beard.
>Come out to family member
>Can clearly see the worry in their face
>Show them the inspiring timelines from the OP
>Their reaction lightens way up and they start saying things like "Oh wow" and "You can definitely look like that" while smiling
You're completely correct. The hons being linked are 100% what people think off the bat because thats who has always represented trans to the majority
Where to buy "fem gum" ?
Its a really awful stigma and it is difficult to convince people of otherwise until they're around you in girlmode and see you aren't just getting your rocks off to it.
That's why Cait Jenner is bad for the trans community, people expect that we're like her even though thats many of our nightmares
>tfw know I could easily be dating, but always feel super insecure and immediately wonder why anybody would like me so I should just save my time and spend the rest of my life alone doing drugs to escape from reality
How do I make myself feel like I am worth something to someone? I've never dated someone for more than 3 months and I'm starting to get scared because the only common denominator is me.
I've decided that I'm going to stop posting for the next while. I need to make some real steps towards actually improving my life and becoming more comfortable with myself, and sadposting about it here probably isn't going to allow that to happen. If anyone wants to reach me, I'll be on Skype and the IRC. Until next time, goodbye /mtfg/!
kind of lol....
I think I was seeing demons and shit durning that picture.
yeah getting off mtfg is good honestly. I have waves where I post here out of sheer bordom. I don't want to bring up my trans shit with irl, irc, or most skype friends so I just shit post here and pretend I don't pass.
It's me, maddie. I was your secret anon girlfriend the whole time. We're super kawaii yuri ecchi together now. It was only a matter of time before I confessed myself to you like this.
what have I become? like last year I was able to drink a half 320ml of alcohol a night and be mildly buzz about this time last year. Now I am drunk after two fucking shots.
I know I lot weight and my tolerance went down but damn ... what is fuck up is that I feel more fucked up than when I did 200ug of lsd with low tolerance. At least it isn't a 12 hour commitment.
>I don't want to wait, but I feel a lot of shame
Feeling shame before you start never gets easier, sorry. You just have to get the process started in spite of how scary it is. Don't put it off for years like I did, I regret that severely.
dw anonette, i'm a pure and loyal maiden <3
fellow hon reporting in.
will meet you all in ten forword.
>you'll never be a popular trip with haters because you have a trip gf and then more haters when your trip gf leaves you for another trip gf who also dumped her trip gf leaving you to deal with the drama
reddit's being mean to me for no apparent reason. You wouldn't be mean to me, would you anon?
thanks i guess.
This will be one of the last times I post here though for a bit. I basically need to stop coming to mtfg. I only came back here for a bit because I needed some info on srs and now that i got it I guess i will go else where
my skype is mudkipz911 if anyone wants to get into contact with me. i am going to take another shot and go drag down a ranked lol game :3c
were you born with a penis and live in socal, if so add me on skype. well I mean you can add me on skype either way, but I kind of want someone to be with.
And before you ask, yes I view myself and other mtfs as women, I just can't stand ciswomen when dating. I tried it once and I was done with it. pre op or post op on the trans stuff is fine though, it is just me not being able to take cis women. Maybe it is the jelly of their body making me dysphoric?
>tfw you have like 5 people who spam you with messages all day when you just want alone time
>tfw the people you want to message you never message you
idk why tho, I'm not funny or interesting to talk to and I'm probably conceited af, and I'm pretty dumb
also an anon hates me
We really need to talk more because I love every moment we spend together. I don't like it when more than a few minutes goes by since I've received a message from you.
grace, avery, people who i've talked to like once or twice and then never since *coughcough*
Because I was posting a meme and they thought I was talking about democracy. I know there;s mean people on the internets but sometimes the proportions are surprising. Meh. More time to do something productive. Like be grill.
Ilu2 bae. I'm going to bed, nini
>How are you ??
I'm pretty tired, it's getting late and I had a busy dayyy.
>What's been up lately anything new?
I started 2 classes at my local community college, English and History. Also trying to get a job now.
I got to go to an aquarium today and I saw some really cute dolphins !
How about you?
Yeah, I've got counselling, but I don't think I'm gonna put a bullet in my head. Thanks for the suggestion, I've thought of it already!
One day I'll be a teacher and Kiwi will be my housewife
desu i think everyone should be able to be pathetic before they become depressed
sounds like a cunt block him at random hours like make it change like 3 hours in the day time, 3 separate hours that are different each day
shit in his bed
One day, you will proudly tell your children that you anonymously told a group of unfortunate and vulnerable people to commit suicide because they will never get better.
Reflect on this, anon. It's senseless. Bullies are mentally ill, too, and I pity you for that.
i mean like
depends how out-of-character that is for your dad
my mother for example has freaked the fuck out before but is generally pretty liberal? i guess that only applies until it hits close to home?
i don't have your mental illness, but from the way you all cry all day i can only imagine you're in pain all the time. much different from a temporary pain from a stubbed toe. also if you can't counseling to make you a willing male again, then you will never stop being in pain, because you can never be a girl.
that's good. i'm glad.
to your other point, i was a pretty relentless bully to a couple of gay boys in my high school ironically enough.
in hindsight, i'm blown away by the courage they had to be open about themselves at such a young age. kinda wish i'd just made friend with them instead, rather than just befriending the kids who found my mean antics funny.
that's awful, but please hang in there. trust me when i say you can't even imagine how different things are when you're out on your own. not neceesarily easier, but better. if that makes sense.
>is like....is like in sync with me ... like a twin
Yeah, I could really use a bestie like that. For now I've got some pretty great friends regardless. They may not be twin-tier bestie, but combined they're keeping me happy and afloat.
Anon can you try shit we haven't heard before please? Like call me an ostrich or something, that would be original at least.
>sounds like you've been doing good though! Really productive honestly.
It's been kinda tough but I'm trying really hard to get things together and have a life again. I've also started working on my voice just last night. I just hope I can stay on top of things and I don't let depression or anything else ruin my life again.
>Busy days suckkk go to bed!
I will soon, I'm supposed to skype with Kiwi when she gets back but if she takes too long I might have to get in bed. I can't stay up too late or else I'll sleep in and miss my bus!
>And aquariums are sooo cute they're my fav really.
Yeah, there's so many cute things there. I saw some Beluga whales, Sea lions, fish with really funny foreheads, and even a blue lobster!!
i only asked because someone else in this thread told me being a bully is a mental illness. so yes i lack the imagination you want me to have, you said it was invisible to me so how would i know what it is? you could just tell me
it seems to me that you see that you're illness puts you at a disadvantage, but you're accusations won't be enough to put me on your level. i only tried to help
well we just hope that if we keep reminding you, that one day it'll finally hit you. the realization that you're a male and don't have to continue this self mutilation any longer. or end your life and end the pain. those are you only options.
sadly i don't have much more time to help you lost souls, but have a cute video, as you seem to like that stuff. good luck
so a scenario, let's say you've been struggling with feeling like you're a girl since you were 12 or 13, but you're 31 now
you're conventially handsome, over 6'5", and built super-broad
you'd probably feel pretty great about how you look, if you didn't feel overwhelming dysphoria when you look at yourself!
you're 2 years into a pretty serious relationship with a really incredible gay guy who's heavily into the type of dude you pretend you're okay being
what in the FUCK do you do?
Okay I'm actually too high to keep fucking with the typography, but anyway
Being a bully in itself may not be, but it's a sign of underlying problems.
It's not actually a healthy behavior.
It shows problems deep in the psyche.
Problems you're in denial about.
Unlike trans women, most of whom admit there's a problem.
And they take the medically prescribed path :^)
Brace for a lot of pain. I'm sorry, it feels like a nightmare scenario.
I'm stealth inside a Skype group right now so everyone thinks I'm cis aside from 1 guy and another tgirl. Apparently some guy is becoming obsessed with me...
>Yaaay! Good work.
>Keep it up so I can add your voice to my collection....
>er, so that you can show it off and make people think you're cis
That's the goal. I've met a few girls with really great voices, when Kiwi uses her mic in CSGO people treat her like the girl she is. Where as I as soon as I open my mouth get relegated to being "man" and whatever.
>well we just hope that if we keep reminding you, that one day it'll finally hit you.
I appreciate your wasted efforts. However I encourage you to spend that time getting a girlfriend or something instead.
>the realization that you're a male and don't have to continue this self mutilation any longer.
Hahahahaha that one is never gonna happen. Trust me, I tried!
>or end your life and end the pain.
The pain I feel isn't worth ending my life over. It'll be gone soon enough, it's just gonna take time to complete my transition.
>those are you only options.
Fuck that shit I make my own destiny. I'm gonna be one heck of a girl and you're gonna deal with it.
>Sea lions are rlly cute lol we have them like alllll over here
You live on a coast? I'm lost somewhere in suburban Illinois so there's no cute sea animals. I get to see deer and stuff though, one time I was riding my bike home from work and there was this cute deer just walking on the sidewalk. As soon as he saw me he darted off through some people's backyards.
>Have fun you two !! Hope she doesn't take too long and you'll get to say goodnight and stuff
It's been almost an hour idk how much longer I can wait.
Get some GOOD anime, nerds!!
i've pretty much just been like... gradually acting girlier over the course of my relationship and hoping i can slide into a dynamic that's comfortable enough.
my realistic goal is to present as like... a noticeably tall and broad-shouldered very girly gay dude who sticks out like a sore thumb?
Yeh I live on the west coast !
I used to see deer alll the time in my background where I used to live though.
My dad and I would throw apples at them to eat and I'd feel really bad whenever I'd hit them with it oops
deer are adorable though !!
>It's been almost an hour idk how much longer I can wait.
u really want me to??
Which ones have u played Kuppy...
I really wanna play Rewrite and Kud wafter but the only one I've actually played is Clannad l-lol
i do think about ffs. i'm in the US though, and i don't even know how i'd go about starting that process considering i can't just pay mad moneybux out-of-pocket for it
(not asking, i know google exists)
hard to imagine it'd help much when i'm pretty much a giant-person though. who knows.
this is pretty much my game plan. as much as i've pretty much accepted that i'm a girl, i know that there's no sculpting this incredible hulk frame into anything else.
i've got a really supportive group of friends, and a boyfriend that uh... will probably at least still be friends with me no matter what. i just want to look as close to what i feel like without looking like, realistically, a fucking freak.
no offense to girls in a similar situation :(
>Yeh I live on the west coast !
Oooh, that sounds nice. What state if that's okay to ask?
>I used to see deer alll the time in my background where I used to live though.
They're not terribly common now that I've moved a bit more south and a little further away from forests but when I used to live in a more rural spot up north deer, coyotes, and all sorts of stuff would creep into our neighborhood. One of my favorite memories of up there is when there was a really pretty snow storm near Christmas and I caught a really big deer by the streetlight down the street.
>My dad and I would throw apples at them to eat and I'd feel really bad whenever I'd hit them with it oops
Jeez you're cruel!!
>deer are adorable though !!
They areeeee, I love animals
Over an hour now, it's almost 2 am and I gotta be up at like 9:30.
Not as good as this stuff!
>h-honestly I wasn't being entirely serious about the collection thing
I'll believe almost any creepy thing people tell me here 'cause there's some really weird anons!
>though perhaps it would be a good idea to collect passing trans voices to use as motivation for people...
Could be, maybe /mtfg/ could make some sort of compilation of our voices we could put in the OP. All volunteer of course, no sneaky dox crap.
just ask Brad :')
>Jeez you're cruel!!
Omg no we just wanted to feed them !! I wouldn't TRY to hit them that'd be cruel aa
>What state if that's okay to ask?
>Over an hour now, it's almost 2 am and I gotta be up at like 9:30.
Maybe you should sleep ;__;
You don't want to be drained for all of tomorrow
stop fishing for memes u know u got em all
Pick three crushes to fulfill three roles:
One celebrity crush to be your little
Another celebrity to be your mommy/daddy/caregiver
Another one to be diapered alongside you
What are your picks?
>tfw at schoool
>rly starting to get a little awkward around guys
>one guy on class xtra nice always
>asks me again to go on a break w him he pays
>also asked whens my bday
>knows i lurk somewhere around here
If you are reading this, pls dont think im weird
There was a True Life documentary of a trans girl who was into adult diaper play. She had a website guide that talked about stuffing marshmallows up your booty until they dissolve and then poopin' them out to make a "sticky mess".
This is a girl who was presented to the world as being a normal trans girl...
The reverse is true. My voice really made people uneasy back when I tried presenting as male. I didn't even sound as a gay voice. Just like a woman trying hard to sound like a guy and failing. Strangers on the phone would call me madam all the time...
Anyone in the mood for a sexy little story? :D
>oh chirpy baby!
>One celebrity crush to be your little
>Another celebrity to be your mommy/daddy/caregiver
>Another one to be diapered alongside you
suck his dick etc etc
Read her AMA on reddit awhile ago
actually seems like a chill person desu
>ur a 10/10
>Omg no we just wanted to feed them !! I wouldn't TRY to hit them that'd be cruel aa
I'm not sure I believe you! You seem like a big meanie!
I've been there, it must be really nice. I'd miss snow tho
>Maybe you should sleep ;__;
I'm gonna, Kiwi came back and I'm wrapping up the night with her
>i dont pay attention to trips except ones that post anime
i read every post u make but thats only because ur my gf
i never knew who u were until u replied to me and never read a single post of urs before then
Oh also I'm worried because i got my hair dyed and its like a lot of blonde and i like it, my hair looks good, but i feel like it makes me pass less. This life sucks.
You want anime, i got anime
>still reading /mtfg/
please put me out of my misery
i loved that anime so much desu
would watch again
thats probably for the best
I was kinda lame before I met you
i know im fat and hairy but is it ok if i post pics of me being a cute diaper girl?
i mean like i'd always wanted to wear them for a comfort factor, it never got me off thinking about it or anything. though to be fair i'm the kind of person that just finds bondage comfortable instead of arousing for the most part.
i'll have to remember that.
been looking for tall/broad framed (not fat, nojudge) girly guys as a reference but they're pretty much nonexistent as far as i can tell?
hoping to settle on that sort of look but it's been a pretty disheartening process (which is particularly crushing because it's sort of what i'm settling for)
any reference i may not be aware of? tia /lgbt/ ilu
samefag: how tragic is it that this is my only outlet/interaction with other trans girls?
scale of uh... realistically, 9 to 10?
yeah that's a pretty big fucking concern real talk. like, i've had my ass eaten before and the whole time i was so paranoid about that (literally) shit. i always douche like 2-3 times but its still a concern. i'll just stick to not having sex ever again.
What are /mtfg/'s favorite songs atm??
Despite how insane and depressed it can get, it's still a lot more grounded than some other places on the internet
you'll have to introduce me when we hang out. muh dick. i mean real talk i'd do degrading things to the real filthy frank...uh, if i wasn't 'pure' that is.
on the real-real, i'm the too-tall manly looking girl and i pomf my butt down on my man's face on the reg.
just having proper hygiene down there and not getting into butt stuff when you know you're having, uh, a "bad butt day", is all it takes!
my man eats it like he's been in the desert for two days and it's his only hope for survival... point being that there's a certain aspect of letting yourself detach from your insecurity that's needed for great sex. easier said than done, but completely worth it. i promise!
I hear you, but it doesn't have to - my best orgasms have probably honestly been by myself honestly, but sex is a different and much more heightened situation. good sex is about the connection, and is good sex regardless. (this is probably a zero percent helpful statement?)
ntr in general is kinda touchy in real life. it's like hard for me to get into because i'm the jealous type.
well my best was when i first met my ex and had like actual foreplay and stuff, i was able to cum just from kissing and groping. my second-best was having my prostate milked, i actually passed out.
whatd i do :') yousaid favorite