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You looked like an old autistic friend I used to have.
Cher's daughter went from being really cute girl to being a below average fat guy. Shit's pretty sad desu.
>me on the right
>you trannies still don't even pass
>only 2 years of hrt
>C'mon! step it up!
Hi, how is everyone?
decided to trip, hope I dont regret it.
I worked for my family construction and trucking business for 10 fucking years and then for a general contractor for another 2 years. I also have a degree in math and science and one in engineering technology and drafting.
I wish whatever happened to booger would happen to me. I wish I could just wake up one day and be done with this delusion. I will never be a pretty girl. Hell I'll never be as pretty as some of you here.
I wish I could just feel fine being a boy even if its a fem one.
No problem, I'm not black but I have naturally curly hair (3b or c idk)
hi thread. everyone having a good night??
You went from the possibility of being a really cute girl to just looking like a boy with boobs. I guess that can be said about all dyke lesbians though.
>more proof that boobs make passing 100% more likely
I'm actually good, today was a cuddles and dinner out day.
Also like my birth certificate marker change becomes 100% official this weekwhich is making me super happy about being done with this shit rn.
How have you been?
>tfw when androgynous is my limit
just fuck my shit up
i Find A cool Text COpYpaster
They are the guys who do the "people react to ... videos" and they announced they wanted to actually trademark the word react and get paid for every persons reaction video online and it blew the fuck up in their faces.
Is it everyone post and be annoyingly autistic day? I see all our top autismo trips are on and representing.
Not quite sex but more than friendly, we were both too sleepy to do much.
Also for srs, I had to email the clinic, I'll know my date this month most likely, but like, there's a delay, my GP thinks I was over some dumb government quota in December or something. Still crossing finger for srs in spring.
>I've been alright
Could be worse.
Cards are all on the table now
He just texted me back
Wish me luck empty effigy
I'm reading it now...
Many bad threads later.
I have arrived.
Oh god what even is going on.
strong features are sexy. who was the other person who complimented you?
i had a crush on a person with a nice jaw, its sexy as fuck
you will what btw
>Could be worse.
i just came to post
TFW NO BF
1000 times in a row
lets get started
TFW NO BF
TFW NO BF
TFW NO BFTFW NO BFTFW NO BFTFW NO BF
only 980 something more times......;--;
ohh was your cuddle buddy a dude?
are they cute?
will you see them again soon?
government shit sounds like a fucking pain
i found out i can't get sRS from my insurance until i do like therapy with them for a year so im kinda fucked
bueracracy is trash
lmao you look obviously latina, idk
i'm guessing like.....central american-?
How do i go about getting their skypes?
Do you have a throw away email or something? i really want to talk with more people i can relate to.
Nobody murdered me today. I'm disappointed.
A girl, she's cute, we've been on and off in a complicated way for a time.
>a year of therapy for srs
God, I needed only six months from my surgeon and that already took me most of 2015 to set up everything. Seriously good luck with it. Bureaucracy is shit.
I am not looking at labor or construction jobs because they took such an incredible toll on my body. Being out in the sun all day loading trucks or making grade on 100 house pads in blistering heat isn't going to help one get feminine. I want something I can do inside with no lifitng that will pay well and its so hard to find something like that. All I did this week was apply to a shit tier pizza place job and an aquarium, at least the aquarium job was a desk job and paid $18 an hour but no one got back to me
Took a shower and put my bath and body works lotion. Feeling extra girly tonight!
Ugh where's a bf when you need him
> tfw the bae makes you feel better
>"i just get overwhelmed
because everyday i seemyself as a girl
since a young age
and it makes me wanna commit sudoku
and idk ya knw?"
"no i don't get it man
and i prob never will
but that doesn't mean I'm not here to support you
you'll get there
try to focus on the journey more
rather than the end picture
i'm literally gunna cry wtf.
>tfw I gave myself a haircut and it turned out okay
>I want something I can do inside with no lifitng that will pay well and its so hard to find something like that.
Can't you just go to a random call center with a help wanted ad and tell them at the interview you're trans so that they're too scared about anti-discrimination laws to not hire you?
I heard there are some who are into penises. You should probably look it up.
I have been applying in guy mode because I don't pass nor do I need to add the hassle of applying for a job as a token tranny, though I do look like a manly lesbian woman in guy mode so I doubt anyone credible would hire me anyway
He took it pretty well and played along with the conversation, and I think it's a useful exercise for establishing and defining the relationship
... I just wish he wouldn't just say "k" every time I say "i love you"
>tfw crushing loneliness and too reserved and closet to find a bf
yeah i had already gone through like 6 months of therapy to get the hormones referral letter that I didn't even use, lmao
hopefully i can cheat the system a bit, because this is trash....although the only reason i've been going to therapy is for an unrelated mental illness so that makes it a bit tougher :,^)
i just need to start buying tape in bulk
ohhhh a girl?? nice nice nice
i've been thinking about seeing girls
lots of women hit on me, its kinda bizarre
why is it complicated though
hence my name change
i see i see
so i was off lol
meh whitewashed is a stupid term desu
>why is it complicated
I guess we've got some stuff where we're not 100% compatible which sometimes results in seeing other people and then getting back together.
Also like, I didn't think I could seriously be with a girl before we started dating.
Most kinda want it, but sometimes you have to make do, I'm sorry :(
I hope you'll feel a bit better soon.
lol, I've watched their subscriber counter go down by about 100,000 today
Are there any sane mtfs that pass by chance? I am trying to decide if I want to transiton or not but I can't find any role models. Are there any sane mtfs that pass here? Heck, is there any mtfs that pass here. If so can you know them so I can see for myself.
That's pretty fucking rude.
Someone passing or not here wont affect you and if you need to see someone passing here then you're not trans, you're just obsessed with the idea of a trans girl.
its not bad at all as long as your car is pretty reliable. somedays you get a little more some a little less. everyone I work with is a little transphobic so I'm not out at work yet but honestly I spend 70% of my time at work out of the store.
>you're not trans, you're just obsessed with the idea of a trans girl.
I worry that this is the case for me sometimes.
They have laws about discrimination now though, if you just tell them you're trans at the interview and it's an entry level position there's a good chance they're going to hire you just to avoid having to deal with lawsuits.
You do realise lgbt people don't walk around with rainbow stickers on them at all times, or pink triangles for that matter... like i know loads of lgbt people with job. This trans guy i'm fucking now works in a kitchen, and he had a job back when he apparently didn't pass either.
Same rut but with a hangover on top. ;-;
I pass but I'm insane desu, sorry
Thanks I hope so too. How are you doing?
Tbh, I think I've settled on the root cause just being feelings of self hatred. It's a long story, but in a nutshell I never came to terms with my life and I'm depressed as fuck.
IDEK, it's hard to say given we still lived together and stuff even in situations where we were mostly seeing other people.
And yeah, I generally prefer men so it's still a bit weird at times.
It shouldn't matter if any of us pass or not. Will HRT make you pass?
Bullshit, all they have to say is no. A company can't be sued for telling a person no to a job, even if they didn't want me for being a tranny they can use another excuse.
>It's not like you can tell by looking at them.
uh fuck yeah I can and also the way a person sounds, I mean its pretty hard to not notice when a gay guy speaks, that lisp is the dead giveaway and most mtfs sound like gay dudes and most if not all ftms sound like women
If they aren't flamboyant then it doesn't matter if they are gay, hence when I said visibly lgbt. If someone passes off as a normal person its not what I am saying, I am saying a visibly faggotfied person is going to have an impossible time getting work in my area. I haven't even seen men with piercings get work here.
>want to sleep
>notice I didn't dilate in a while
>have to stay up and dilate
>though I do look like a manly lesbian woman
delusional much? you look like an autistic man trying on his wife's dress for the first time
the most butch lesbian woman looks like justin bieber but you look just like a dude
I am 50 miles inland from LA. All of california isn;t fucking LA nor is it lgbt friendly. I saw a guy at this mall called Ontario Mills get his shirt ripped off by two bald buff guys just because it was pink. I saw it all, he was with 2 cis women and was really flamboyant and two buff duded got out of a lifted pick up truck and were walking by my truck and started making fun of him, then he told them to fuck off and they ran over to him, threw him to the ground and ripped his pink shirt off and threw it at him and spit and he was crying like crazy. I put my cigarette out and drove away because fuck that mall. You just can't be lgbt in the open where I live and survive.
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>I put my cigarette out and drove away because fuck that mall.
You missed your opportunity to become a vigilante superheroine, kayla.
I honestly think you'd be good at it, you have the same kind of antisocial / pessimistic responses to people on this image board that I would expect Batman to have if he were a tranny posting on 4chan.
Thanks anon ;_;
Yeah, I'm school to be a programmer, that's at least going OK. I'm trying to keep moving forward, it's hard to just leave the past in the past and leave behind all the insecurities and self loathing. There's a lot of mental roadblocks to get over yet.
I'll try, right now I just want to sleep forever, or at least until my brain chemistry fixes itself again ;_;
How are you kuppy?
Awe nice, that definitely sounds like a good day. ^^
Still working on that, I'll be happy to share when I figure it out.
Is kayla's retardation real or just simulated?
>Friend I haven't talked to in awhile gives really nice compliment(said she saw me while working one time and didn't go through my lane because she was intimidated by my looks)
>Feel good about it p much all day
>"shit yeah I'm attractive to some people"
>Remember that it was a compliment on dude-me
>Suddenly conflicted and feel kinda bad about the compliment
I felt the same way, but everybody has to start somewhere. This was my first time tutoring so I didn't know what to expect. I just made what seemed to be the most reasonable plan, stuck with it and let caution to the wind and everything worked out.
I'm passionate about science, I like math and I think Calculus and algebra are elegant though, so it's easier for me in that sense. Just do what you love and don't let other people's opinions stop you. c:
Also, why do you have an associates in math if you hate algebra? (this is genuine curiosity)
that must arouse you as fuck since it's just like in your crossdressing tg erotica stories. now that your manhood is dead, time to put on an apron and serve any rich man like an obedient submissive housewife because after all that's what all women are supposed to be
Yeah, that sounded kind of strange to me, but there might exist some form of that. I would assume that it would be in science or applied science, but I can't really say definitively.
is that a yes mommy
So I'm starting HRT in a week.
What's the typical *lowest* perscribed dosage for injected E? What sort of ballpark should I be expecting in terms of concentration for someone who weighs like, 120 lbs?
"How about miss cock? she is a good girl"
"oh she wakes up pretty good"
i have a hysterical crying fit every two weeks or so, had it tonight over fears my gf would leave me because i think i'm dull and boring. two weeks ago it was that my relatives think i'm just a butchered, ruined man because they're too stupid to grasp chromosomal and hormone sensitivity abnormalities. i have relatives so sexist they don't understand how i can be a girl despite being intersex and getting periods because i once helped build a shed and how could a woman build a shed??? and it sent me over the edge, ended up crying for two hours on that. then the time before that it was about pronouns and first impressions when someone introduces me as 'he' and people at work being dicks.
but yah once you're done you feel normal again and its all good. i haven't done it since i was 13, honestly it feels great.
>Also, why do you have an associates in math if you hate algebra? (this is genuine curiosity)
Its in math and science. It was mandatory for my engenirring degree which is just another associates itself. I am going back on the 17 to take 3 more classes, my last physics class and 2 history classes so I can get 2 more associates and a transfer. Then hopefully I can get accepted to the university of either Humboldt, Portland, or Seattle. I want to move up north so bad.
entertain me pls
gotta stay awak for another 20 minutes ;_;
i own an SKS and a 1911 but they're in michigan
everything else i have is a replica
>tfw u fap but youre too lazy to clean off the lube so you go to bed with a sticky hand and dick
>muh science/math degree
>muh bridge blueprint done in MS paint
Yeah guns are beautiful when maintained well, like all polished and shit. When they're some genuine care put into them it's great
That's weird how you need so many degrees to get an engineering degree (another associate.) I didn't know that there were so many branches. I'm almost done with my associates in science with the intention my current credits transfer to uni for a bachelors in either engineering, physics or biochem. As far as I'm aware it only takes one degree and then I can transfer in as a junior with part of the bachelors already covered.
I'm kind of torn between what I want to do for a career. Do you live in the US? If not, maybe the educational system is different for you.
armchair psychologist's conclusion: kayla is addicted to (You)'s and feeds on negative responses because she is in her nature a deranged masochist just like norman bates in the 1960 movie psycho was
I went to a top ranked engineering school and have a bachelor's in engineering.
For typical engineers (BSc) you only need the 1 degree, and maybe to take the FE/PE exams if necessary.
Nah it's really not, i live in the middle of nowhere in the countryside and there are farmers that shoot pigeons (not clay). Plus all the nice looking guns are illegal, you're allowed a simple revolver, but yeah. Plus if i bought one i'd probably get lonely and sad one day and put a bullet in my head in all honesty so it's probably best if i don't.
Ricky I dont know if you're still there but that last pic you posted made me tear up. I wish I was pretty like you. Coming here has been making me cry more and more because so many of you look so good.
I would say more but I'm just going to go do the usual wallow in darkness alone for a couple hours. ;~;
Okay hair. I'm gonna get my ears pierced next.
Hey montana kun hows it goin
I know all about van allen belts and they are a group of particles charged by polar magnetics and even tidal friction. They also sometimes can carry deadly radiation. Jupiter's van allen belts are the most radioactive.
I fucked around a lot for several years and took way to many classes from too many fields because I didn't know what I wanted. So now 3 classes gives me a transfer, a degree in social and behavioral studies, and a degree in business administration.
Did you got to a community college before transferring to the engineering school? If you just went straight to a uni can you just go for your bachelor's without an associate's to begin with?
Also, did you get a degree in Mechanical or Electrical?
finally done ^-^
should I get smokes before bed tho ?
otherwise waking up without cigs would suck
ah i see
Oh no... ;_; Do you think this will be a problem after finishing undergrad and getting a bachelors/potentially working on a master's or does the past become irrelevant once you've achieved a certain degree of education?
It's fine when you have better on your resume.
If you have kayla's resume then you show that you fuck around without achieving goals. Get a bachelors or masters and it shows you got your shit together and did something that takes a little effort.
Keep your chin up cutieboo, things will get better <3
And you know that if you ever feel the need to say more you can always ask and I'll listen :)
im just fucking with you i dont belong here anyways
You wake up 15 minutes later when the sensation of squeezing a dilator out of your vagina jolts you awake.
I can't speak about the CC -> 4 year track, I can only speak for the high school -> 4 year university track.
If someone goes straight from high school to a university, they are not typically awarded extra degrees on the way to a bachelors, nor are they a requirement.
I have a bachelor's in materials science & engineering.
>tfw uncut but have to use lube because of phimosis
Lol, thats more like theoretical physics or something. my area of focus is electronic materials, like fabricating microelectronics, nanotechnology etc. Currently in grad school after having wasted a few years from depression and shit.
Right now my brain hurts and I have no interest in penis. I guess the latter part is a relief?
Hey how's it going?
Tbh, dilating is uncomfortable when you first start and then 20 minutes later you're just bored. Dilating is mostly a chore imo ;_;
A little, lol. I've learned not to watch stuff that will make me laugh when dilating.
Goddamn it you speak my language. Candy flipping together would be great ^^
You don't use lube? Wat?
my vision is still fucked up from 2 days ago, everything still looks super candyish and vibrant
i can see like tons of different vibrant shades of colors
also the comedown is AWFUL holy SHIT i feel so exhausted
rip my serotonin ??????
No, I'm just a spongebob mega fan, and thats one of my memes I had saved and the first thing that popped into my head. I can actually recite entire episodes of spongebob, down to the sounds effects.
Oooooh, that's what's up! I'm trying my best right now to rebuild my life after high school depression/dysphoria and shit fucked up my early secondary education and I'm growing more confident that I have a shot to make it in some kind of science. I still don't know what though. Took a bunch of math and physics, but I'm opening up to chemistry and bio for the rest of my AS. I really like math so I'll probably end up sticking with something related to physics, but who knows.
I don't want to jeopardize your anonymity so you don't have to be too specific, but what kind of stuff do you make? Is the nanotechnology just related to electronics?
nm about to go to bed cause tired
>laughing while dilating
oh god yes
kinda hurt tho right after surgery when I accidentally had the biggest laugh yet
>You don't use lube
not really when I'm in the mood I don't need it and since dilation is down to once every few days I can time it with me being horny quite well
>jammed too much stuff in washing machine
>everything was way wetter than usual
>putting stuff in dryer for 2 1/2 hours and still everything is at least a little damp
fuck it wouldn't be as bad if my sheets weren't damp too and if it didn't cost $0.30 every time I wanted to use a dryer for 10 minutes
MDMA comedowns are terrible, they get a lot worse if you do it with any regularity. Idk, its a large part of why I don't do MDMA that much anymore, the week after is hell ;~;
Thought of something you want to do tonight?
I need to work on that, I just dilate with a schedule whether I'm in the mood or not ;~;
Don't let your dreams be dreams, you too can suffer through dilations :D
This place really is an addiction but at least it's fun.
So my area of work right now is trying to put little nanospheres of glass (100 nm diameter) on a silicon surface. I want to make these spheres arranged nice and orderly, in a single layer. Then we want to shoot molecules at the silicon to make the flat layer into little pillars. By designing the process carefully we might end up with a structure of orderly pillars that have interesting electromagnetic properties. (see pic that i googled)
That's what i'm supposed to be doing, but in fact I don't know what i'm doing so none of it works.
This could be applied to a lot of things, like you could have that process used for a battery electrode or a solar cell or a memory chip.
If you're interested in this, overall it's a mix of materials engineering/electrical engineering.
wow i thought it was like a day but i still feel awful
im getting psilocybin
I would love you, but my schedule is packed. I actually need to be going to bed soon.
I want to exchange contacts, but I don't want to give you false hope. ;o;
Best of luck in school! Do your best!
So cool! Wish I could chat more about this, but I gotta get ready for tomorrow. Thankfully I know there are some sciencefags in here, so I'll keep talking about it when I get back [: peeeeace
>made a facebook to friends im out to and a few im ok with having know
>bunch of family and distant friends friend me
Welp guess theres no going back in the closet now
Kinda regret it, I wish my hair were longer or something so I could at least kinda pass irl but whatever
i only did mdma that night cus i wanted to candyflip
idk if its worth it or i should just take more LSD
the colours were so fucking intense though holy fuck it was great