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7th or 10th or whatever for whatever.
Why are we bothering to count again?
>Tfw gonna be such a hon that my dating pool will be limited entirely to ugly girls with weird hair colors who spend too much time on tumblr
Goddammit I couldn't even get the right post number, I can't even shitpost properly
My mother and I went through a first sketch of a packing list for Thailand. She reminded me to buy pads because I'd probably need them for a while post-op. As if all of this was completely ordinary and not at all terrifying. But then when I mentioned the new suit I bought, she told me she didn't get why I'd wear that because I never wore suits as a guy. She's weird that way.
Well, I'm all for self-medding as a way to kick start a transition. But when I see people doing it for years on end or using the really shitty, dangerous stuff like ethynilestradiol, megestrol acetate or merely progesterone, yeah, I can see why one would advise against it. I can't, because it wouldn't feel quite honest given I used the shitty stuff as a teenager and I self-medded before getting a script this time too.
It's an incredibly reasonable post that links to informed consent clinics, acknowledges that DIY is an avenue available for people with no other serious recourse and has an article advocating for legit medical care with less gatekeeping.
Are you just looking for shit to get mad about or did you want some sweet 4chan up(you)s for circlejerking your gt about le Reddit menace XD
speaking of which, to get hold of degarelix acetate through a legitimate route, i need to do a telephone consultation with the online pharmaceutical.
the form is asking me what i'm using the medication for.
umm.... the only on-label use is to treat prostate cancer? h-how do i do this.
>dangerous stuff like ethynilestradiol, megestrol acetate
Which literally only happens when you hide information about how to DIY properly. When you have a community that tells you they won't help, you seek help in other places, places like google and amazon and the websites you come across first are ironically the bad ones like this:
It was because of an openness to DIY HRT that I was able to do it successfully while waiting on the 10,000 year waiting list to get into a gender clinic. I had endocrine documents, knew how to ramp up dosages, knew what the latest and most risk free drugs and dosages were.
Withhold that information and you get girls going to real black market websites or buying bullshit who-knows-what off amazon.
>circlejerking your gt
I'm post-op, hon. :)
Does anyone else have posture issues? I sit and work at a desk all day, and my head is like, pushed forward. It makes me look dumb when I have my hair up in a ponytail or something. My back is also really curved, but I actually like that and think it looks good, it kind of makes my butt and boobs look bigger. How do I just fix my neck?
Slouching looks bad on a girl, yeah. Which is why I wear a strap these days...
Please tell me exactly what kinda coat i should get going into late winter early spring to minimize my figures horribleness and massive shoulders
Im cold and i look bad. Help me mtfg youre my only hope
Would a hoodie work? How do i get one that fits both my shoulders and waist well?
Or you can, you know, go for a totally 80s look and wear a power suit with epaulettes so huge they'd look so even on Stallone... Bonus point if you have a massive shock of poofy hair that hides most of said epaulettes.
I don't know what's in the water, I mean, I used to hate that style, but the last additions to my wardrobe are all headed into that direction. Must have something to do with the memory mess I'm going through.
As if you would even get a single hit on me, i'm trained in martial arts you know?
It's not too late to back out of this fight, kid.
Who /Perfectmascara/ here?
shit is on point today, how r u nerds.
Speaking of which... I'm tempted to buy this strip and use it for a vintage Ralph Lauren pattern I got my hands on. Waste of money or does it look good for the price? https://www.etsy.com/listing/114387674/haute-couture-fabric-100-thai-silk
you could really hurt somebody with all those edges anon. calm down lol. where did they touch you?
but how am i supposed to tell people i'm a tomboy if i put on makeup???
you should wear mascara anne >.>;; it is v. nice
what kind is ur $25 mascara? the only expensive ones i've used are too faced's better than sex and smashbox's full exposure but i want to try the benefit roller lash
jesus christ. you got robbed. especially if you are just starting out. imo anyways
lol omg! you get used to it. nowadays it's just a struggle not getting excess mascara on the corners of my eyes. it's really pretty once you get used to it.
practice makes perfect!
yeah i'm just starting out mostly so i dont see the point in buying more expensive stuff, but i notice with the cheaper kinds it looks like you did an unintended smokey-eye if it's humid where you are....which ends up looking cute most of the time somehow lol.
lol were you using things under your eyes? sometimes you can make your eyes look darker and more tired if you do the under part badly.
Is the whole trans thing (well recently) a meme?
In my entire school career, I didn't run into a single trans person. To the best of my knowledge no-one came out after they'd left either.
A few years since I've left, in the space of a year, two different people came out as trans (an ftm and an mtf).
It's not like policies and culture on gender has changed significantly since I left either. There were openly homosexual people in high school (without any notable harassment) and no-one gave enough of a shit to care who was in what toilet or changeroom while I was there.
I'm all for accepting people for who they are, but are we gonna find people who end up really cis but got caught in a trend?
but it was because i had really long eyelashes as a middle schooler and dark eyes from not sleeping
i knew of 2 openly gay guys while in school.
after i left, i became aware of 2 trans people. 1 FtM, one MtF.
the poor MtF seems to be doing real life experience without having ever taken hormones.
Non-waterproof mascara will run off your eyes and down your cheeks at the slightest hint of water. So unless you plan on staying inside and you're sure you won't cry, the waterproof stuff is a must even if it doesn't look as good. Other than that, fake eyelashes are an option.
adolescence can be really hard coming out as trans. around friends and stuff your whole life you can really get caught in the crowd and repress your emotions to fit and seek happiness the normie way. that's how it was for me anyways...
but jeez 25$. fuck. i was considering getting some 10-15$ ones that were nice and branded but ehhh what do i know. perhaps that's the route to go?
> really long lashes
ur fkn blessed anon.
trueeee. i know what to invest in on my next outing i think.
Possibly with increasing exposure more people are able to come out. Also, there is the thing that it can be difficult to realise you are 'trans' if that makes sense. Like I always visualise my future self as a man (hello lurking ftm here) and I always sort of preferred typical masculine things but it wasn't until I was about 17 that I for the first time thought: I should have been a man. Even then I didn't talk to anyone about it for years because I didn't think there was anything you could do. For me, the only exposure I'd had to trannies was like stereotypical images of hons - that didn't help me. To tell the truth, there was actually a documentary on trans people that I saw when I was about 19 and that's what made me realise transition was possible. So yeah, from my own experience, I can say that without actually sort of being given information on transition it is possible to not 'come out' as it were, for quite some time. Plus, if you do tell people who don't know they could just see you as gay and then you just end up trying out the homo lifestyle until you end up looking to transition or just repressing it, you know?
there is in my experience a pretty big difference in drug-store vs brand name mascara. that doesn't mean there aren't good drug store mascaras -- cover girl's clump crusher is pretty gr8 -- but idk even stuff like the applicator isn't as good typically. mascara doesn't last long, ur supposed to throw it out after 6 months, but you can usually get smaller sizes of the high end stuff for cheap so it isn't a waste of money
spend as much as your comfortable with i say.
i've always done well with drug store stuff except for when it comes to eyeliner and mascara so those are the things i chose to spend more money on atm
if i could afford better foundation and such i'd go for it too but for now i can get by
i got the benefit THEY"RE REAL lol
Is there a product that can really grow your lashes or are they all scams?
pre-everything... is there any chance at all i'll ever pass?
idk if they work but i kinda doubt it. use either falsies or a primer. mascara with a primer is a HUGE difference from just regular mascara and the right lash primer will make them look longer and fuller
Well, I began mentioning it after reading that autobiography. Before that, all I could say, and said, was that I was a girl. As for presenting female, I let my hair grow long when I got away from home and into high school. And my first outings "in full dress" were when I was 17, give or take a year. I never dressed in secret or stuff like that. Actually, I still don't understand the point of that to this day.
I want you to hug me and then we can watch anime or a movie together and then maybe coop video games with gross mongol candy.
Wow, I wish you could give Kayla tips or something
I'm glad you found that autobiography, though, sounds like a real game changer for you. Wonder what would have happened if you didn't find it when you did
I know right? I am going to buy my first bra today and I am so excited, I am like a good sized C cup too and too many people told me I needed one. Its my first outing to the fabled Victorias Secret.
Yeah I was born without eyelashes and eyebrows so when they grew in the grew very thin guess I'm fucked woohoo this transitioning thing sure is going to be great the more I try the more I find out the huge differences from me and woman kind.
Thanks for the tip maddie, um I suck at falsies tho and I think they look too obvious but I'll try to find a good mascara right now I use Ms. Manga.
Well, I would have kept being one of the girls, and would have bought girl clothes and makeup as soon as I got enough money for that, really. The only thing I learned was that HRT and SRS did exist. And when I tried getting those, I was gatekept as I was "too young". So, not that much of a game changer. I was already pretty secure about my identity when I was a kid...
I like that kind of stuff but chocolate is best.
Can mtfg recommend me a good horror movie? I wanna spook myself.
>was the sale person job the race car job
yes, the guy who was interviewing me liked me but he wasn't the boss so the boss was supposed to call me to go to this place called king of the hammers today if he wanted to hire me but he didn't so that means I didn't get the job.
what kind of cow outfit we talkin...
i want a cow onesie and a glass of milk and sleep desu
hahaha its for them to call me back not the other way around, they explicitly said don't respond to their private line for "begging."
>things can get better
look around you, things can get better only for people lucky enough to have money, its all about money at this point. Even a minimum fucking wage job would be better than this hell im in but no one will call me back for those. I have no future and its only because I am poor. I have every right to hate the people here who can at least afford groceries even.
faye we can't be together because both of us want to be housewives. it will never work
I have the hangover to end all hangovers, please end me ;~;
Weirdly I'm feeling a bit better than I've felt in awhile though. How are you? Did you get to the rave last night?
>I have the hangover to end all hangovers
bullshit i did literally 350 dollars worth of drugs in 5 hours last night and now im doing 425
my liver is going to be gone by tonight
if you'd just apply to real jobs instead of fantasizing about fake ones maybe you'd have one already
is your resume just complete shit? because if it is you should think about using something like careerexcuse.com to help you get your foot in the door. they give you a fake work history + fake references for a pretty reasonable price. it'd be especially perfect for you since you love lying so much.
An unfortunate face and stumpy legs.
There are never hot girls doing those kind of photo shoots.
dude it's fucking 4chan
i love you all but it's an anonymous image board. the greatest thing i can give anyone is my honest opinion. it's the least i can do.
on the computer most of the day. my life revolves around my computer.
i use it alot before i sleep yes. help me
its still kinda hard to find jobs now, so I'm sorry and I wish you good luck
keep applying and you'll get there, I know its hard too, but I believe that you can do it
yes I did!!
I took two hits of mdma and I think it cured my depression c:
it surprised sara a lot bc I'm so much more talkative now and open
I think it's gone for good, like there was no comedown from it just like when it helped sara and has forever improved her general well being. I feel like I did before I came depressed and I'm not afraid to speak mt mind anymore which is a really really weird but amazing feeling!
I'm sorry you have such a hang over tho, was the speed fun at least??
>tfw you get to be the meat in an mdma fuelled cuddle sandwich
no better feeling desu
>watching GoT with me mum
>Renly x Loras scene comes on
>noticeably start blushing, my hearts racing
>"anon if your into that maybe you're just gay"
Could she be right??
I've always been sure I'm trans but now I'm getting doubts since that kind of soft guy on guy porn gets me hornier more than anything else.
> I am just applying to shit that is so different to my job skills
yeah then use careerexcuse to give yourself the job skills you need to get these jobs. when was the last time you worked? having big gaps in your resume isn't good
Good vibes, I'm glad you had a good time. I know that feeling well, raves and MDMA can be a ridiculously positive thing if they come around at the right time. Take care of yourself, don't let the Tuesday blues get you down, and try and keep that positivity going ^^
Idk, for as bad as the hangover is rn, I still had fun during last night. Did some thinking as well at the end of it and I think I understand what's wrong with me now.
thanks elanna :) and good luck sorting out your issues
and by the way I'm gonna cuddle and kiss the living daylights out of you when we meet :3
It had been a while since I last felt it all so sharply. The painful longing. The seemingly endless wait. The glimmer of hope for a real future. This is love. It fucking burns, and I know the descent will be horrible, but I don't know how I managed to go on without that high for so long. Maybe because I knew I should stay clear of it. We,, too late...
A friend confirms, it looks like I have some work to do.
Also, I look forward to it. This summer is going to be fucking great, I can't wait ^^
Why do you do so many drugs at once so often, why do you feel broken? Treating the symptoms only works for so long, and you already seem to know what it's doing to you. What's hurting you anon?
Oh damn. Please take care of yourself, that many drugs is a surefire way to destroy yourself ;_;
Will you spread good vibes? ;o;
You asked if one looked like that and I told you none of us actually look like women in person so fuck off with your bullshit expectations. Its shallow guys like you that cause trans girls to commit suicide so you have blood on your hands.
Okay I misread what you said. I am looking at porn so my mind is in the gutter at the moment. No no I don't want that to happen I just want a hot girl like that but who is trans. Maybe you are not the one for me then.
>I'm not being rude
You are in here bragging to depressed men with breasts and asking only people who look like models to date you. If you can't see how rude that is then you are autistic.
Why do you feel pain and guilt? I know the feeling of numbing yourself, but it does only work for so long. Sooner or later, the root cause needs to be addressed ;_;
What makes you feel like you deserve to die? Nobody here deserves death.
Awe yeeh I love me some pb&j :3
Get over here I have wonder bread
Yeah that won't do. Give me a call in 3 years.
Alright, you're starting to cramp my style.
1. You are clearly some ugly bitch
2. You are not happy with yourself
I asked to speak to the hot ones, not some spazzy ass loud mouthed bitch tripping on me over a fucking question. Go fuck yourself biting onto a pillow like the retarded monkey you are.
but if i nap my sleep schedual will be fucked up and i'll miss class again.
just shut up and lurk til tripfag Edie comes along
shes a well off tranny escort, pretty hot
if you want hot trannies this aint the place to go though retard
there are like at least 3 ugly giant niggers here in dresses like korra
it's fixed now. my fatherino just has to send it to me now.
Ty for asking!
because im a shitty human and a drain on society
really a terrible manipulative pos that cant feel anything beyond just knowing im awful and should be gotten rid of for the greater good
You really do sound like a piece of shit, go jump off a bridge.
I'm not a chaser. Its quite immature for someone like you to think everyone who disagrees with you is a chaser.
I'd never hit on you, I'd never think you were passable since youre far too old to have HRT do any significant effects.
You're a hon
First off I never said you were ugly by my standards. While there is some sort of universal standard, there is something for everyone out there and varying tastes. Like I said fuck off with your victim complex and stop talking to me. Your negativity is what's wrong with you, on top of what you potentially look like, which is indeed probably fucking hideous.
I'm sorry anon, I wish that there were more I could do to help. I hope that you can find a way to change your lifestyle to something healthier, what is it about your lifestyle that causes you pain?
The fact that you feel awful and feel like a drain on society is enough to tell me you're neither. You feel guilt, regardless of if you should, you're not a terrible person.
>not wanting a hot trans girl to suck you off
elanna what are u doing get urself together.......
>tfw you want to go to a rave with ur roomie but he ends up not wanting to go
>tfw u get acid and do it while he's on MDMA and a really tiny bit of psilocybin
>few hours passby of fucking around the house
>want to go to a rave
>gem is almost off work
>ask her if she wants to come
>she gets off an hour early
>we found a rave and just fucking go to Washington State an hour away
>its kinda lame, we make a REALLY good hookup tho and clean them out of all their drugs
>take some MDMA and give gem a lot
>i start fucking rolling and im like at peak acid so im just fucking rolling as we're driving home looking at the pretty colors
>gliding through the freeway in what looked like space at 80mph with nobody on the road and just the lights of metro portland while [YouTube] MACINTOSH PLUS - リサフランク420 / 現代のコンピュー (embed) plays
>ITS ALL IN YOUR HEAD ITS ALL IN YOUR HEAD
>shes acted super extroverted and really talkative more than usual
>finally guide our tripping asses home because MASTER CARTOGRAPHER
>talk about shit like theraputiically for 6 hours on mdma while cuddling
>she seems like an entirely different person now
>she hasnt been effected by the molly in ages
>she actually went to work with a smile on her face today
>she actually seems happy and like herself
>tfw you make your introverted moe anime girl gf into a bossy extrovert overnight
does anyone else know this feel though
this is an ABSTRACT kinda feel :'))
get some rest
heres ur compyy
um nobody is going to read ur shitty transsexual fiction novel
-gonna take hormones
-prob be a while till they PRESENT female
-they will feel better prob have diff feelings
-still same person
-will look different
-tell em to do their eyebrows
but really ask me anything
> tfw no other girls to party with near me
that sounds really fun though!
Are you socially retarded enough to think that announcing you want a hot girl to suck you off is enough to get a hot girl to suck you off? Fuck off you autistic failed abortion, this ain't your personal dickgirl farm.
Reminder that if your penis is more than 4 inches you are not trutrans!
Yes, chicks flock to me when I slick my hair back. I am that attractive. You should be honored by my presence on your miserable life. In all honesty, I believe you are the autistic failed abortion:
1. Getting twitchy over words on 4chan
2. You're more than likely still look like a man
Speaking of announcing things unsolicitedly, I don't see why you are on your soap box telling me how this is not your personal dickgirl farm. Are you some sort of self-appointed forman around here? I clearly didn't ask for you, get over yourself uggo.
well i mean it's like...partying kinda? in the car with your friendssssss with the music on. wind in your face. acting stupidly down the road.
Those drives too and from parties were like this and it was so fun.
>that feel when
god the summer of 2012 has no comparisons.
dude i dont even know how i got us home
i was RIGHT fucked up but even when i do a lot of psychs i can still like somehow power through no matter if everything is melting and ground myself enough to get us home safely
tfw u made ur gf into an extrovert
i'm a fucking douchebag....? psh... i get SOOO much pussy bro... yeah. YEAH.
why do you keep making numbered lists?
you need to back off buddy, the pretty ladies don't want you here. there's only room for one cis guy in this thread. i don't want this to escalate to violence but i'll do what i have to do to protect these gals.
I'm sorry. Are you repressing right now? Where are you at in life?
I'll say this much, I don't personally know you so I don't know what you do that makes you feel that way. However, I do hope that you can find some way to love yourself and not see yourself that way.
Yeeh gem told me earlier about your night, it sounded fucking awesome. I'm glad the two of you had a good time ^^
>You're more than likely still look like a man
L O L
Shitbags like you are a dime a dozen. If you don't get your big fucking ego stroked, you turn to petty insults. You're the pathetic one here, they always are.
dude if i was put into a position of responsibility given the amount of drugs i already do
>like driving a fucking car
id wreck in seconds lmao
i cant even not be 5yrs old when im fucked up long enough to be coherent let alone not kill my gf rofl
dope and partying can do wonderful things when combined its a sure fire way to fuckin live life again
yeah idk why MDMA is illegal desu
alcohol and weed are just crutches, MDMA actually fucking repairs shit
I don't need to have my ego stroked, I asked for my dick stroked by a hot trans girl's mouth. I do believe you were the one who became irrational with all the insults, not so pleasant when it's done unto is it? I see you are eager to put me in some categorical box, I guarantee that lots of people can do the same to you, judging by how you are acting.
Back home day 1. Spent time with my aunts. They all think I'm a freak and mentally ill. It's going to be fun coming out to them.
Not interested in filthy craiglisters. 4chan is a step above, as these people are more than likely untouched. That's why I am looking for a hot one with a low self esteem to exploit.
You're asking for your dick stroked by a hot girl and going off on 'uggos'. We all know you're trying to feed some delusion that you're an adonis and get to call the shots, but you're still just a creepy chaser posting porn in a MtF thread on 4chan. I would be surprised if you pulled any girls in real life at all.
If you were actually as hot as you claimed you are, you'd be hooking up with people on craigslist or whatever it is that chads actually do. Sorry to not feed your delusions bro, could you go back to /d/ to stroke your tiny peen?
It does. As someone who has had a lot of experience with MDMA though, the only advice I can give is to cherish it and save it for special occasions. It fixes things, but only when you use it responsibly and respect it, it's an excellent tool
yoooooo check out the guy who grows the weed I buy died in the future based on the shape of my face and body Works for you to go to out most of the time even if you keep saying it does on 4chan know what postmodern the best way to get the best way for me
yeah iduno im really fucking resiliant to psych's effects if i actually put my mind to it
like my phone was fucking like tons of vivid bright colours and everything was melting and i still led us home properly even though if i actually looked out the windows it just looked like i was going through fucking space
city life baby
tfw in a state of shock at how much the MDMA changed ur personality for the better
why is this shit illegal desu
do you even feel like you ever want to do MDMA again at this point or are you fucking rolling all day errday now? after that same shit with MDMA happened to me i never wanted to do it again, i was just like okay i guess im cured boys
i dont have a reason to do it again, ive already gotten everything i want out of the drug
>tfw you pass but your body doesn't fit cute clothes you want
NOBODY UNDERSTANDS ME
>Maybe your mentality is not where it should be, if you are some self righteous defender of trans girls on 4chan.
i defend all women on the internet: trans, cis, or otherwise. now tell me where you live so i can cave your face in.
I don't like self-admitted ugly ones with a combative personality. It's a deadly combination. I don't do craigslist, tinder and okcupid are better for that but I usually just meet someone from school and work like a normal person. I also personally don't give a shit if you think I'm a creepy chaser or not, as you are clearly someone with a number of problems to figure out freaking out and making juvenile small dick jokes. Still makes me chuckle, but because I find it pathetic.
The only pathetic one here is the person who wants someone with low self esteem to exploit. You know full well noone wants to be with you, you're just looking for a personal fucktoy that will overlook what a tremendously flawed person you are. I pity whoever gets sucked in with you.
I have been with many beautiful women, only real ones so far unfortunately. If you're judging me thinking I was being serious about the emotional exploitation, you're far too gullible and emotionally volatile. I don't know why you're trying so hard to make a case against me here, as if your typed words can dictate any figment on my reality. This is getting uninteresting and predictable on your behalf rather quick. I'd stop replying to you, but I'm a sadist.
Meet me at LAX. Book a flight and let me know when you can be there.