>go to local trans group
>50% hons all tittering in the corner with fishnet stockings and completely untrained voices
>combined, they probably took the amount of hormones needed for one person based on how they looked.
>25% 14-18 year old """ftms""" that were really just girls with short colorful hair.
>all had anime backpacks
>25% young mtf that were still too damaged by testosterone, brought their moms as well who were completely stunned by the degeneracy in the room
>seriously, the poor moms, they didn't deserve that
>not one person in there was passable in any sense
>not one was passable with their voice, EVEN THE FTMS
>Hons talked for 99% of the time about their fetishes in front of the kids and their moms
Going there was one of the worst decisions of my life
>all the hons, damaged mtfs, and EVEN THE FTMS complained about how they were cat called and sexually abused on the street 5x a day
>people catcalling hons
Afterwards, the goddamn counsellor of the meeting had the nerve to ask me to bring my parents along next time
>complained about how they were cat called
I once walked the streets with a guy in drag, he got comments like "looking good baby" sooo hot giiirl".
He thought he looked sexy and was getting cat called but must of been too autisic to realise they were all being sarcastic.
>You will never be among the girls that transitioned at 13
>You will never have a supportive, healthy environment lined with hope to talk about your trans issues in
>You will never be friends with your early transitioner peers
>Instead, your skeleton will always be marked and deformed by testosterone
>Instead, any support group you go to will have unqualified entry
>It's actually for good reason, since you have nothing in common with the young transitioners and you would just bring the mood down through being depressed as hell and/or envious
>So the separation is also to protect your own psyche
>Instead, the area you have been permanently quarantined to is filled with people you would never choose to associate with otherwise
>Instead, the mood is one of gloom, despair, and disgust
I was a pre transition kid who biked 15 miles to go there at time. It was one of the biggest reasons why I didn't transition for a while.
the only people who go to support groups are people who need support. well-adjusted trans people who have their shit figured out and/or made progress in their transition do not need support. that's why groups are usually full of hons, non-dysphoric "ftms", etc.
An hero is just an internet phenomena. Ever think without a message board of faggots telling you how you're supposed to feel, you come to better learn yourself? Also, being trans was unacceptable. The dysphoria didn't start to hit me until I realized transitioning was a thing and got on tranny message boards all accross the internet.
It's like a vicious cycle, the broken trans people go there only to get more broken.
I am a hon so I would fit right in but the idea of fraternizing with other hons just grosses me out. I rather be alone and just wait until my depression builds up to the point of OD'ing on antidepressants to be honest.
I kinda agree. I don't know why I thought talking to any trans people at all would help me. Even though I'm trans, I hate trans people more than 99% of the population. Being in a room all day hooked up to HGH and high concentration testosterone would probably be less damaging than fucking trans group therapy bullshit.
Like any subgroub, there will be those who form a narrative about themselves and there will be those who are told how they should feel and what they feel. So, while the idea of transition or die started somewheren, I'm sure not everyone saw their feelings like this. The internet no doubt fuels ideals of subgroups, etc.
> I don't know why I thought talking to any trans people at all would help me
whoa are you me? i always thought, 'i am trans and i am curious about talking with more people like me''
and you know what? bad idea!
A friend of a friend found out I was trans a year after first meeting her, she is very prominent in the trans community in London, the moment she found out I was trans she asked me to do a talk for all her trans support group people.
I laughed and said it would be a lost cause.
I went to a couple meetings of a supposedly transsexual only group, and tried to split the more reasonable of our group off from the old, boomer fetishists who dominated the meetings. Probably pissed them off. I never received any more invites, which is fine but you would think someone would be on the same page. They honestly told me "oh, don't worry about chest hair, honey. lots of women have a lot of body hair, you don't need it removed." That wasn't my fucking point! God damn hons.
Get up out of the armchair and go do some actual study. We have more than enough records to show that transpeople killed themselves very, very often before even computers were a thing in secret labs and corporate warehouses. You're full of shit. You aren't psychic and you aren't brilliant, you're just wrong.
>tfw I'm 29 and just started HRT
Geez you all seem to have had a bad trans group experience. We joke around about being trannies and even the therapist will tell the hons to get rid of their beards and hair. the ftms mostly have beards also and are mostly on T except the two kiddy 14 and 15 yr old ftms. the only bad thing is that the two frequenting mtfs dont pass at all and are a bit dilusional
More like not at all if you don't know what a hon is.
Late transitioner (mid 40s-50s) that doesn't pass at all. Their voice is terrible, their makeup is ridiculous, and their sense of fashion is inappropriate for their age at best and fetishistic at worst. It comes from their excessive use of "hon" the term of endearment at the end of sentences to appear more feminine.
Most often used as a slur by younger trannies against other trannies.
That's pretty much me.
Even before HRT, I often had people telling me I have soft facial features, and that I shouldn't have long hair because it makes me look too girly.
Even so, I don't exactly have guys beating down my door wanting to ask me out. To be 100% stealthmode passable is like winning the trans lottery, unless you literally start at like age 12.
>Early twenties tranny, started hormones at 18.
>Go to social group for 20-30 year old trans women.
>Explicitly stated 20-30 year old.
>Get there, at least half of them are over 40, what the fugg.
>Apparently they "feel young on the inside".
>Grizzled boomer laborers and middle-management drones with garish makeup wearing (I assume) their wives' clothing.
>They dominate every discussion, talking over everyone about their inane bullshit.
>Leave, never come back
% 14-18 year old """ftms""" that were really just girls with short colorful hair.
>>all had anime backpacks
oh god that's my kid sister (brother?) and I can't take her seriously for that exact reason
she seems pretty beat up about it but she's always been beside herself when people don't humor her attention-whoring. what do?
> 50% of the ftms there considered themselves "demiboys"
Why does this happen
Sounds a lot like my group. This fucking hon derailed my venting on a trans related issue to talk about her fucking shirt.
Then the following week gets on my case when I interrupt her poisoning the minds of the young transitioners with her hon logic.
Like those "Some women have deep voices" and shit. As she talks with a Baritone's resonance.
Where do you live? Where is this support group at? These sounds like my kinda peeps!
>go to local monster group
>50% monsters all tittering in the corner with fishnet stockings and completely untrained monstrous voices
>combined, they probably drank enough horse piss needed to transform 100 people based on how EVIL they looked.
>25% confused airhead women with short colorful hair.
>all had anime skirts
>25% bearded girly boys cowering in fear with their mothers
>seriously, everyone's mom showed up, lunchables everywhere
>not one person in there wasn't corrupted by EVIL
>upon noticing my arrival, they screeched letting go their horrendous battle cry
>basically they whipped it out in front of the kids and their moms
>pic related: it's me about to punish the monsters
Rule one of tranny club: Never go to trans groups
>tfw I'm bringing my mom to a meeting today
OP why do you get off making fun of others who have a harder struggle than you? Maybe you should grow the fuck up. Big deal, they pushed back your transition a bit but that's ultimately on you, not them.
Sincerely, not a hon.
>go to transgroup for 18-30s
>2 ftms who went by male pronouns but looked like girls
>8 Dfab "non-binary"
>be only mtf
>get yelled at for being transphobic for saying that not everyone should call themselves trans, like if they just want to do it for a fad
I am lucky i dont have to deal with hons and bad mtfs but i have had so many problems with DFABs and ftms. Maybe its just my experience but outside of just being ugly i havent found as many problems with MTFs in group settings.
Fuck trans support groups full of fucking hons and fetishists.
> be start at 24, 26 now pass perfectly. go to support group for pre surgery chatting, leave after 10 mins in horror
Fuck support groups.
>be start at 24, 26 now pass perfectly
There's hope! ;_;
Thank you, anon inbetween all this negativity.
>OP why do you get off making fun of others who have a harder struggle than you?
Don't get me wrong, I have huge sympathy for the young mtfs and the moms.
The hons and ""demiboys"" can fuck right off. You gotta be joking if you think they dont negatively affect the trans community.
What questioning person would go to one of these shit show meetings and think "wow these are well adjusted people, its okay to be trans!"
Hons gonna hon, then are shocked when people are disgusted
Iktf anon. Trans support groups were seriously damaging to me in that they made me postpone transitioning for like over a year. I'd go there, see the freaks, and cry my way home because I didn't want to be become one of them.
I had the exact same experience with asperger groups. It was just full of the worst of the worst. As someone else said it is likely because people in support groups need support i.e they have issues. Someone like Laverne Cox isnt going to be in a support group because she is successful in life.
Hons are a sad part of our history and a cautionary tale of what happens in repression and mid life crisis
Hons make us look bad but i have to say they have every right to exist. just like ugly people its not their fault. but also like ugly people they should not at all be surprised when people dont think they look good. thats just society.
Demiboys are the scourge of the transmovement. The whole non binary thing got way out of hand and more or less became about just what you say than how you feel. it became this idea of subjective gender roles being a gender instead of the body and sex of Transsexuals. I am all for the people who want to not adheare to gender roles and stuff but they are fundamentally different from the people who transition, and that includes some non binaries
Which is why I keep saying, just remove transgender as terminology. It encompasses everything and suggests transsexuals are like all the other queer weirdos, because it sounds literally the same. Transgender doesn't describe shit.
I'm fucking laughing
Anyway, OP, I bet every one of the people at that support has a tumblr and a blog where they vent about being a allosexual greyromantic demigirl wh goes by they/them or xir/xer/I don't fucking know pronouns.
god I hate tumblr and that fucking queer glamour culture.
one of my best friends is also trans and is probably a hon in the making. I love her but she is a mess.
being unattractive or weird doesn't invalidate someone's gender. just be glad you didn't end up that way.
Don't worry anon-kun!
I'm sure it's j-just a fetish!
It's no big deal that you can't afford HRT, I'm sure you won't even want it soon!
I have a gigantic and powerful grasp on life that wouldn't go away if I were literally killing people just by existing.
I have a profound selfishness that dwarfs any suicidal urge.
Or at least I keep telling myself that.
>Go to lgbt group
>Half of the people there are non-binary oriented, basically boys and girls will special pronouns
>One literally changes her pronouns on a day by day basis from feminine to masculine and back
>I'm the only trans person who can pass / is attempting to pass
>They all complain and say there needs to be more education about non-binary within the group
The counselors in my state seem to split their groups into 14-19 and adults.
>Counselor 1: One group for 14-19; Two groups for adults
>Counselor 2: One group for 14-19; One group for adults who have recently left adolescence
>Counselor 3: One group for 14-19; One group for adults
>Company 1: One group for adults; two with an unspecified age group. But their description says they do children and adolescents as well.
I excluded 3 therapy groups for families of trans people, of course.
Link for proof. https://groups.psychologytoday.com/rms/prof_results.php?sid=1454117517.5867_15710&state=NJ&spec=187
>>One literally changes her pronouns on a day by day basis from feminine to masculine and back
>doesn't bother knowing that such a person is referred to as a xum and a xur.
Check your privilege
I fucking tell you people all the time to avoid trans groups but no one listens to me.
Here is my first and only experience with one and my therapist made me go.
>middle of Hollywood
>first one there
>shoulder length hair and was skinny at the time, 130 lbs
>vneck shirt, girl jeans, and skate shoes, with some light makeup
>I looked decent
>sitting in meeting room with an oval table
>55 year old man in a moo moo dress and flip flops with big sausage fingers and a deep voice arrives as group leader
>already feel like this is huge mistake
>super tall masculine transgirl walks in
>head to toe pink clothes, had phone speaker all the way up blaring lady gaga
>curly headed fat fuck guy in "diablo" game tee shirts walk in
>another fat mtf walks in, in a skin tight dress ten sizes too small in zebra print
>fat ftm with pink bubble gum colored hair and bracelets stumbles in
>tall mtf in red leather dress walks in, covered in stubble and sores
>ftm lays out pronoun rules (I shit you not, swear to god)
>everyone states pronouns and names
>fat dude in "diablo II" shirt says his name is Isabelle
>I am sweating profusely at this point
>never been more ashamed in my life
>now its my turn
>I say I don't care about pronouns right now because i look like a man so just call me a man
>fat mtf in the tight dress with 7 inch long fake nails starts giving me shit about pronouns and how important they are
>get up and ask therapist to unlock bathroom
>he follows me to the bathroom door
>he has a visible erection
>officially creeped out of my mind
>he hobbles back to meeting room
>I lock the door to the rest room and open a window and crawl out
>ran to my car as fast as humanly possible
>smoked a whole pack of cigs on drive home while listening to thrash metal
>stopped entertaining the idea of transition
>shaved head the next day and started working out again
nice fanfic you fucking ugly autistic fetishistic man
>I lock the door to the rest room and open a window and crawl out
It was a ground level room and it had one of those old school windows that open outward.
The group leader therapist guy was a big burly man in a moo moo dress, he had the key to the bathroom because in shitty areas they lock the bathrooms. He had a fucking boner and I don't know why but thats what he had, it was awful.
Also that pic I sent to a guy that I was emailing from here and he asked me to take a open mouth pic and then it turns out he was a troll and posted my nude pics I sent him in private all over. >>5631548
90% of transgroups are just an excuse for special snowflakes to brag about how COMPLEX, OPPRESSED and DIVERSE they are without getting made fun of. Stay away from them at all costs, unless you want to walk into the most cringy tumblr shithole imaginable.
that was that troll that went by "Maki" that did that, he then posted the same pics over and over for a month.
I honestly think the anon thats always pissed at me and posting pics I never intended to get on here is actually jealous even though I doubted anyone could be jealous of my ugly ass.
I had to go to these groups before. I felt obligated to be a good trans or something. One freak was a man wearing a skirt and actually called that his "transition."
Yeah its out of control. It made me repress harder than ever for 2 more years before a scuicide attempt and now I have been on hrt for a whole year as of last week. The only reason I was forced to go is my mom made me miss one session of therapy with my regular shrink and being the bitch she was made me go to group before I could get on hrt. Fucking trans groups are a menace, I mean how can those people tolerate their own disgusting bullshit. I won't go out full time till I pass and if I can't then I will do society a favor and kill myself as to not be a menace to the eyes of civilized folk.
>so you default to the gender-neutral "hon."
no, it comes from the fact that older transitioners use the word "hon" excessively, in between obviously fake giggles and weird fetishistic jokes about their new femininity
ok but get this
>go to trans youth support group
>75% of the kids that go there are from mental group homes
>theyre all the most obnoxious fucking (literally) autistic kids
>none of them pass for shit
>they are constantly screaming
>one of the "mtfs" doesnt even try and looks 100% cishet male
>the old mtf that runs it is like 80 and always talks about her friends on the bdsm farm
>literally everyone there is waiting for the mental house kids to leave
>they always leave a half hour early and then me, my friend, a really sweet mtf, and sometimes a cool ftm that rarely shows can actually have a discussion for the remaining half hour
no wonder people think being trans is a mental disorder, i almost do myself
The left is closest to passing.
Necklace is the only one with normal human clothes.
FTM just does whatever because you literally have to go to great lengths to look like a faggot as a man.
You can just throw and t-shirt, hat, and jeans on and youre any average middleclass guy.
inb4 thats actually an MTF and he isnt trying at all or demiboi or some faggotry.
No she isn't, look at it's nose and jaw. Looks like an old man. The second from the right is the closest, but still has a manface.
FtM doesn't count because it's near-fucking impossible to not pass as an FtM with enough T.
On the subject of trans youth groups, btw, the one decent person at the one I was forced to go to was the one that ran the damn thing. Mum saw him before we went in, as did I, and neither of us had a clue that he was a trans man (I just assumed gay) until he told us.
He started at, like, 30. No surgery, just HRT.
and your posts make me repress harder kayla, don't scare more trangirls back into the closet. enjoy some of kayla's old antics under one of her old tripcodes
>And guess what, I haven't posted on mtfg since I said that. I still use this board
>less than 4 hours after posting that you posted this
They pass as a retarded old hippie woman who is taking painting at the local community college for the 17th fucking time.
2nd from the right has a huge man chin
theyd pass if they were mexican
noone cares fuck off to /mtfg/ with their tripfags and even more autistic person monitoring some random person on the internet like youre their mom or something
Go to susan's or laura's playground sometime.
It's the terrible dress sense. The overdone makeup. The burly man in a dress look. The totally out of place, overdone affected female mannerisms. The creepy sexual overtones when they are in support groups. There is more, but that's the idea.
The admitted AGP fetishist hon who runs the local support group here is only taking low dose birth control pills and no blockers, and says that counts at HRT.
You can't replace testosterone with birth control pills.
>they drink horse piss instead of estrogen "because it just feels right" etc
Literally drink horse piss? Or are you talking about taking premarin instead of a different form of oestrogen?
It's derived from it, but it's not as if it's straight horse piss. It's like how eating gelatin-based foods isn't the same as directly eating the discarded bones and connective tissue of livestock.
>go to trans clinic to get on HRT for an MtF transition
>everyone in the lobby looks homeless
>some guy driving around the room in a fucking motor wheelchair thing
>nurse asks me my preferred pronouns
>say he/him because I blatantly look like a guy
>she gives me a weird look
>puts me on a 4 months waiting list to see a doctor
>lmao my ass of out of there and never go back once I realised that I fell for the trans meme and am actually just a pathetic loser looking for the ultimate form of escapism like most AGP fucks
>>lmao my ass of out of there and never go back once I realised that I fell for the trans meme and am actually just a pathetic loser looking for the ultimate form of escapism like most AGP fucks
>>say he/him because I blatantly look like a guy
You're contradicting yourself m80.
In fact you were probably the only genuine tranny in that place? Nowadays you got like 10 transgender on 1 transsexual or something.
How is that a contradiction? I said call me male pronouns because I look like a man. Later I came to the conclusion that I am in fact not trans. I know what a genuine transgender person is, I know what kind of thoughts and emotions go through their head, I've heard plenty about gender dysphoria and the crippling mental issues it causes. I suffer from nothing that could even be remotely close to gender dysphoria.
wait, so they put you on a longer waiting list if you state your pronouns as the person you look at? or am i reading this wrong?
i don't want to go up to someone and say my pronouns are she/her. i look and sound like a guy. i don't expect people to refer to me as a girl.
Old fetishists who transitioned way too late and put almost no effort into passing. They also wear cheetah print dresses that barely cover their dick and constantly call people hon to try to seem more feminine.
Laura's is horrendously annoying but they actually kind of care about protecting the kids and keep the sexual stuff to a minimum (crossdressers notwithstanding, fuck them)
Susan's is creepy as fuck to the point where I had to leave
>Go to a free or reduced price trans clinic to transition
>Complain that they ask your pronouns, at a trans clinic
>Complain that they put on you a wait list, at a clinic
>Complain that you're not like those transtrenders going by pronouns they don't even look like but then you're not even trans so why should you even care
Cis scum, plz.
I fucking hate trans culture, especially in my city. I know one passable trans person and they are an ftm from my brothers class. I wanted to meet other mtf's, someone I could relate to or maybe even make a friend with.
> go to youth trans support group.
> technically a lgbt support group, but it caters to trans people much more than lgb
> walk in and see three girls, two mtf's
> these two did not do anything to pass besides put on a dress.
> neither pass at all.
> the three other girls are "demiboys" and gender queer people.
> not one to judge, but these girls are clearly tumblr kids.
> finally get to talking about trans issues.
> feel bad for one of the trans girls as she was here for help without her extremely Christian parents knowing.
> they had abused her and she refused to tell police.
> second mtf's turn comes along and she immediately starts prattling on about how hard it is for trans people
> says she gets cat called and felt up on public transport.
> says she was raped online.
> "you don't need to feel dysphoria to be trans!"
> tumblr girls turn comes around, pretty much what I expected.
> triggers, rape, sjw shit
> get up and leave half way through
> never go again.
That was the only trans group in my area and I couldn't stand to be there. Kinda wish i got the first non - passing mtf's number or name so I could help her or something, but i felt so pissed off at the time, I had to leave
>friend finds out I'm trans
>tries to be supportive and invites me to some Facebook trans group
>group founder is some 50 year old self identified 'crossdresser', clearly not on hormones
>starts sends messages to me all ending in 'stay beautiful Mwah! XoXoXo'
>starts leaving creepy messages on my friends pictures, basically hitting on my friends husband
>read the group description and says 'a place for transsexuals, crossdressers, shemales and other folks to discuss issues
>leave group and immediately unfriend this person
My friend was trying but she really didn't know any better.
I hate to make everything about passing but I truly believe if you put in enough effort, know your makeup, know what is appropriate clothes for your body shape, have a hairstyle that compliments your face, that even the most unpassable hon can become at the very least androgynous.
Just taking hormones is not enough.
You clearly haven't been looking at the pictures of hons.
Taking hormones is enough if you're feminine enough; most cis women don't need to try to pass, and they're effectively "taking hormones" from a young age.
d-did they put eye shadow all the way up through their brow?
What city is this? I am curious. But ya haha this OP perfectly describes trans support groups. Old gross hons. Tumblrtard snowflake ftms. And the saddest group, the young 18-22 trannies that don't really pass.