We're not all going to make it edition
Just accept the truth.
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Previous thread >>5593076
>We're not all going to make it edition
>Just accept the truth.
You're right. I am one of the people that will be miserable forever and never have what the other posters have. Only if suicide didn't freak me out so much I would do it.
Wow you guys are going through these generals fast.
>tfw people say I pass but look neet and need to work on looking better
Only one of those were me and i'm not a troll.
I think you don't have friends because you're autistic and horrible.
Kayla, I don't pass and I have some friends, a tiny bit of a life, and sex a few times. Don't get so hard on your self.
Although picture related on the suffering part.
I'm not though but you need to calm your t-rage bro.
>tfw make friends even when horrible
I dunno how this works, I did push away all my childhood friends though because awkward tranny.
>bullying nice people
You're a turbonerd tho
i keep coming here and to mtf chats and i feel so out of place, im probably the only one who still lives in denial and wont transition
all i cant think is to kill myself
its been the most horrible last 8 years of my life
>tfw no one bullies you except for some random anons once in a blue moon
I deserve to be bullied desu
Does anyone else feel pathetic or selfish about having dysphoria? Like for me personally I just feel that I'm just being a whining little shit. I mean there are people who were abused by their parents, too poor to afford basic accommodation or worse and here I am crying over my appearance.
>mfw I'm homeless in L.A., sleeping in a warehouse with 50 men and still only worry about being a girl
Whining is a privilege and women do it the best!
I'm bored and its late so I'm here now.
Government funded euthanasia sound like an amazing idea desu, but might not be profitable.
Just because I'm homeless doesn't mean I don't have money. It's basically my free hotel. But
>living with Dollface
I'm Sure she would love a 6'2" smelly, decent looking guy in her house >.>
>tfw proud cis scum
>only knew about trans stuff about 1 year and a half ago
>never cared about this stuff
>fall in love with a trans girl
>finally in a relationship with her
>literally to none information about trans stuff
>realize that 4Chan has a lgbt board
Oh shit this general op is based as fuck, full of information too, I'm so lucky to have her, and we're gonna make it together
uhh hair extension tons of makeup lighting angels etc
idk her full body doesn't pass that well t b h
i used to more than i do now desu. after the whole gender wars on /r/, i took a break, but i haven't gotten back into it that much. i need to get back into /cyb/ stuff. /lit/ there is really comfy.
Fact of the night:
I am enjoying the song even if I don't care for dubstep/ravewhateverthisshitis.
That all being said.
You'll make it just fine. Even if it's not the precise life you imagined you'd have.
>tfw im going to suicide next week
>tfw nobody on this board knows me
>tfw the only friends i have are homophobes
>tfw my parents hates me
>tfw 0 days on hormones
hopefully everything is going to be over next week when i finish with some issues i have to deal with
>I don't watch anime
no better time to start than now
No. Though thats my plan currently. Seeing that HRT did nothing for anyone here and makes no one happy just makes me not want to try. The only thing that makes people happy is money. I can make money as a boy and worry about committing to living as a girl later. Unless I kill myself first.
You're one of the reasons I came to this conclusion. Even someone as passing as you you still seem to be unhappy and complain about massive dysphoria every other night. You've even had srs and cant stop feeling this way. So tell me whats the point?
Oh we've all been there. It looks hopeless now but it will get better. Eventually. Here's a picture of a cool restraunt in L.A.
You might think it's irrelevant now, and it is. Feel better soon :)
HRT won't make you into a cis girl. It won't make you into a trans girl either, you're already a trans girl.
It will make you look and feel more feminine though. Do you want to look and feel more feminine?
>Oh we've all been there.
I keep hearing that, just makes me feel even worse, like i should keep fighting until i get to a non-suicidal point of my life, like everybody have. But instead Im the lowest shit of all.
HRT only made me paler and made my chin bigger.
Yup. But when you're at the bottom the only direction to go is up. Suicide is not a direction in life. It's the end. And that may sound fine right now but it's really not. Think of all those girly things you still have left to do. Like feeling pretty :3
Nope. Still have my happy trail, unfortunately.
If you think I'm unhappy now, you should have seen me pretransition. Yeah, I still have dysphoria, but it's nowhere near as bad as it was. HRT was still the best thing to happen to me, and I'll still stand by that, to me it's the difference between being sad and functional, and being outright suicidal.
It's complicated, I'm actually fine with my body now, the things that still cause me dysphoria are my face, and my voice.
>A little andro
say fuck you because you're just another transgirl in a long line of endless transgirls who look fine but will never just accept the fact so it becomes pointless talking to you past a single conversation. So fuck you.
Actually, nothing will get better and I will keep getting old and uglier, so there is more at the bottom.
Suicide is a direction in life, death is actually the end of every direction.
I mean its great talking to the guy and everything, and its fun being with them, but I don't think its for me.
Actually I guess what I mean is that other things are frustrating me and making me unhappy.
Does anyone serious think life is worth living?
I had some edgy shit here but I took it out.
To me, a direction in life is one towards a goal. Killing yourself is like jumping off the road and giving up. That's no direction because there is no destination. Rhyming.
We are all getting older and women know this better than anyone. That doesn't stop them, so why should it stop you?
>tfw your brother is your contact for the job you want
>tfw he is stuck in madrid thanks to the storm
well, better practice my burger flipping skills.
If I knew I wouldn't be bitching about it on an anonymous image board.
Maybe I'm just upset because my pizza is spicy and I hate that.
>tfw only taking hrt cuz everyone in hs said ud be better as a girl
Im just taking my anger out on you. If someone like you can still be so unhappy in life then it just makes me wonder why I'm even trying at this. I'd just like to think that if I did look as good as you then maybe my life wouldnt be such complete shit.
Try to figure out what it is that is making you unhappy, I guess; it's hard to try to make things better before you figure out what the problem is.
Hey wait a fucking second, i posted chef boyardee earlier and you fuckers made fun of me and now you are all saying ravioli is the way to a woman's heart and of course I knew that
Exactly senpai. I hope you find reading this stuff interesting, I wouldn't want to waste someones time for no reason.
I guess you're right, I should keep going just as everybody here, no matter if my parents beat me, no matter if i cant finish college because most of the teachers are homophobic, no matter i have almost no friends left, no matter a trans friends already kill herself and another was killer. After all everybody here goes through problems, but I am the only piece of shit who go forward
whatever. sorry to everyone that clicks on it. i can't repair your vision thanks to it, but i hope my sorry's are enough. i's the most recent one i have on this thing. like 2 weeks ago?
>tfw also have big chin and jaw but you're 100 times more feminine
your jaw's square, but the most important factor is the distance from your lips to the end of your chin, and that's short enough that you just pass as a mildly unattractive girl. Your kind of jaw is not a particularly masculine trait. If you had a crimson chin too, then yeah, you'd be pretty fucked, but you look more than okay.
>not even slightly feminine after 3 years of hrt
>people say I pass but I don't
>nothing to be jelly of
Not even I care if I make it, I have feel empty inside the last 8 years, why would somebody else care, nobody even knows me.
I could kill myself next week as I said and the only one here who would know I died and didnt try to achieve happiness in life would be me.
Was there something else to be had there?
Ricky calm the fuck down and stop posting that crap. Not everyone will hurl abuse at you just because you are feeling down.
So deep breaths and have some feet.
I had voted 'Unsure' in the first poll, so that's one. I don't think I'm pretending to be trans, I like what HRT has done since I've started it, boobs included, and would like to pass as and live as a female. On the other hand, I'm a modestly late transitioner, am in boymode fulltime for the foreseeable future, wasn't particularly feminine as a kid, don't mind having a penis, and might be okay being a femboy as long as I could be feminine enough physically and socially to feel comfortable with myself.
I'm probably some combination of transgirl, HRT-taking femboy and AGP fetishist, really. Whether that counts as being legit MTF by whatever definition doesn't matter so much to me.
You were OK this morning lain, wtf happened
desu i'm really considering ffs for my jaw/ chin jay leno combo.
i'm sure you pass better than you make yourself out to desu senpai.
>tfw don't have that body
are you the anon that kept posting harry potter on my last unsee? i'm actually considering new glasses though.
i know it's big desu, i guess it could be worse, still sucks to be a character form fairy oddparents ;~;
also, gomen pooks that was a mean thing to post here >>5594896 i'm not good with any compliments desu
gomen to you too lainon. i need to not be as reactional as i am.
Given that I've learned how to channel and not be crippled by dysphoria, it wouldn't surprise me if people thought it was me.
Eh, think what you want I say!
Oh, we spend all our lives trying and we all get tired. Some move forward, press on and some don't. The ones that don't are forgotten quick enough. The ones that do keep moving, live to whine, cry, laugh, love, whine some more. Eventually they find some happiness in one way or another.
While the ones who gave up are never spoke of again. They are forevermore statistics in a medical study or mentioned in a conversation. I don't know about you but I'd rather be more than that when I go.
What about people that just like dick and don't care who it's attached to? Are they chasers?
To elaborate further, im in the same camp as you, im not fussed about what other people seek in a partner & what they do in the bedroom. if they want dick (from a mtf or a cis dude) then more power to them and i hope they find what they're looking for.
Im not sure what you're trying to say
Im just tired of the way my life goes, and there is nothing I can do to change it, I have tried everything and nothing have work.
I just want you to admit that some people should just kill themselves because its not for everybody, instead of keep saying that everybody have made it this far, because as far as I know most people here lives in America, Europe or similar decent countries, most people here is white, a lot of people here have their parents support and most people here dont have crippling diseases. And that sure makes a huge difference.
Symptoms of estrogen overdose:
-Excessive vaginal bleeding (2 - 7 days following overdose)
-Nausea and vomiting
I wasn't able to find what you'd eventually die of in my quick search, but I'd guess liver or kidney failure.
>should I play it
Its a RPG trilogy, first game is old as fuck and free called LISA the first.
Sequel is LISA the Painful, its on Steam, and third part is a DLC.
So far is one of the best games I have play, maybe even better than Mother, and I sure love Mother.
I know you're a clever girl Pookie, so you will give it a try.
i'm more passable in low res I think
>tfw real life isn't low res
What bizarre definition of pass are you using senpai?
>does that make me kicked out of the hon club?
get out reee
>I know you're a clever girl Pookie, so you will give it a try.
T-thanks I just might
Should I start w/ the first one even though it's old?
Buy a measuring tape
bcus I'm memeing desu
I'm trans just not passing or fulltime so I cope by saying I'm a boy :')
Look I'm not going to baby you. I'm not a saint, I'm a human fucking being(and unlike 95% of these generals, am not white or thin). My family is Christianic desert people who have no love for LGBT. I dealt with it. If your life is that hard. Kill yourself. But I really hope you don't.
>T-thanks I just might
>Should I start w/ the first one even though it's old?
Yes, totally. I dont want to spoil you, but even the 2nd and 3rd happens many years after the 1st, its all consequences of what happend on the first one.
That's just how i look normally idk.
>This thread tonight
Frog calls ME mother though.
i'm about to go and spend the last of my money on black hair dye for something to do lol. that way i can be really emoe now.
but pookie, you pass! so i have to kick you out before i go.
can confirm, this is actual real life footage of a frog.
may papa bless your dreams.
That's a smirk, not a smile.
Observe. Proper smile on the left, whatever you have going on the right.
>Go to give blood
>Turns out I'm not allowed to give blood because I lived in England during a high risk period for Mad Cow.
>Sit on ass for hour and a half watching others bleed out
>Get paid for it anyway.
>there are people here who legitimately think they don't pass
Literally no one but other trannies are going to clock you if you've been on hormones for a few months, work on your voice and grow your hair out a little.
>tie hair back
Like a ponytail? Definitely gonna get bangs though eventually. I own a bunch of makeup now too but I'm still learning how to use it.
I don't like my teeth though
>Doesn't look so good on a obvious dude
looks fine on me : ^)
I mean I guess you're right but it's certainly not helping when you combine it with my height, adam's apple, etc.
>tfw ur voice gets you instacloked 90% of the time
>tfw it used to be sorta andro but then u got sick and it never recovered
kill me pls
But I don't have any girly clothes and I need laser for my face
Also, what's with the south's obsession with using gendered honorifics?
I don't want anyone calling me "sir" and though I'd prefer someone to say "miss" I think the novelty would die quickly
>don't have any girly clothes
eBay exists. You have no excuse, hun.
I'm not wearing any makeup in any of my pics senpai, I still don't even really know how to use makeup properly. And the lighting is the same shitty dorm lighting in every pic I take lol
This picture is me approximately one year ago
i stuttered a bit and she didn't really understand what i was saying, but she did it anyway
i actually have no clue what some kindly old indian lady was doing in the middle of alabama running a threading salon
do it senpai
i made my decision to start wearing girl clothes when i realised that my waist turned to literally nothing when i put a simple tshirt on
>tfw can't even fap to trans girls any more bc too disgusted with self and sad bc not cuddling with them irl
you don't look much different, except now you're taking better pic and you have longer hair
the old pic is a softer shot and doesn't show your jawline as much as the one in blue shirt above
19, and I'm not trying to make you feel bad I'm trying to show you that hormones can do a lot. I don't look anything like I used to, at least my skin definitely doesn't and the fat in my face is starting to change.
>you don't look much different
My skin looks completely different, but yeah of course your bones aren't going to change and you're not going to magically morph into a different person on estrogen. You'll still look a lot different.
>implying that's me
i've been on mtfg as an anon way longer than you have
pls cease your harassment and attacks on my character or i will be forced to seek remedies in civil court ty
>tfw you start digging through your drawers looking for old clothes that don't fit to get rid of
>tfw you realize that you pass in a bikini
When the fuck did this happen?
>tfw used to pass
>tfw a year ago looking like this after shaving off boob length hair in september due to repression
>tfw stopping mones because mental problems and 5eva a man
>tfw steroids and lifting
>tfw grew a beard to hide my weak fem jawline, red wet lips and soft blushing cheeks
>tfw 5'5" and passed as ftm
>tfw regret and anorexia
>tfw pass as fem again a year later
w i n n i n g
why is your name so familar baka didn't i call you cute once
iirc the police told my lawyer where you live and you've posted ur face on your trip too many times to count lol (filing false police reports is a horrible idea)
>Ah yes the court will love to hear about my post on an anonymous image board asking you to stop harassing me.
n-no bully!! (this is as legally valid as 'cease and desist' just fyi)
>but was your golf cart really a necessary part of the story?
I dunno, I had to drag it in the drive way and now im pissed off at mysef
what makes it even more embarrassing is I was screaming witness me as I drove it
That is such a first world worry.
On another note, is your ankle ok?
Well aren't you just a soggy sombitch?
Honestly I kind of wish my dad were trans, at least then he'd either get rid of his body hair or at least stay covered up, he's overweight and super hairy and tends to walk around the house in nothing but his underwear. It's pretty gross to be honest.
desu that sounds like my dad. it depresses me because it makes me think if i'd have left stuff, i'd have become that. back hair, shoulder hair, balding... though desu the worst back hair i ever saw was on my ftm ex bf. it was like a fuckin rug of curls from his butt to his neck
>complain that my torso is huge
>friends on fb tell me I'm small
>tell them I wear a size medium
>they still say I'm small
>I laugh at them and call them delusional
>they block me
What can't people just accept reality?