/tlg/ meets /co/ edition
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• For your doctor: http://transhealth.ucsf.edu/
>Where we are:
#transbians on Rizon
1. What is a transbian/trans-lesbian? → MTF transsexuals who are also lesbians
2. Isn't that just a straight guy? → No, orientation is who you go to bed with, but gender identity is who you go to bed as.
3. Are bi trans girls, welcome here? → Yes but please the keep boy drama in MTF General please!
4. Are cis lesbians/bisexuals welcome? → Yes.
5. Do trans-lesbians use their penis when they are pre-op? → Some do, some don't.
Depression, sleeping issues and crippling anxiety. This is the high life.
If you have Depersonalization Disorder, then you likely have trauma of some sort in your past. Welcome to the crowd. Many transgenders do.
You could try EMDR on yourself. The book "Getting Past Your Past" by Francine Shapiro tells how to do it, and is by the woman who developed EMDR.
If you want a better understanding of trauma and all it's varieties, then read "The Body Keeps the Score" by Bessel van der Kolk, MD.
>constantly making poor decisions
>burning bridges until you have no one left
>regularly go through emotional hell
yeah so fuckin glamorous lol, also i basically never fuck anyone and my fashion sense is shit
Anyone else having issues with stretch marks ?
I'm at 10 months HRT and I just started developing some, around the inner tighs and also the butt.
They appeared pretty fast and are quite visible, even though I didn't change my eating habits or anything.
i have massive social anxiety so it's a really conflicting combination of being crushingly lonely but also paralyzed by fear when thinking about being outgoing and saying hi to people...i wish i was inhaling dick every 5 seconds
So I'm two weeks on hormones as of two days ago. I have experienced slight breast growth, but I'm not entirely sure that it's not from weight gain. All I know is I can almost fill an A cup. Sex drive is pretty much the same, maybe a bit more lenient idk. Facial hair, I feel like is growing a bit faster for some reason. Anyone else go through the same things around this time of their transition?
there's been a serious messup in the system somewhere... I wanted to get a new script yesterday but GP was closed because IT problems, so went again today, but couldn't get one because there's some mistake in the system, I ran out of prog 2 days ago and running out of e today.
endo isn't working today either so can't reach her.
this is not a good day.
I'm sorry to hear that. HRT shortage is so distressing..
My day was pretty depressing as well.
On a single phonecall both prospects of getting SRS soon and being financially independant in the near future were seriously compromised,
and it just shattered theses tiny feelings of security and happiness that I managed to develop.
I need some way to convince myself to not feel guilty for being completely gay now and not attracted to men at all. I keep getting this weird tinge of guilt now that I'm going to be putting myself out there in the dating scene but I feel like I should be putting that I'm attracted to both sexes.
I used to be 70-30 split, leaning toward women, but now i feel either 95 or 100 percent leaning toward women.
I have a feeling that a lot of this guilt is the whole "agp transbians" troll bullshit, but I still feel guilty or selfish for wanting to avoid men, both trans and not.
That's another thing, has anyone here actually found themselves less attracted to the opposite sex during HRT? I know a lot of people find the opposite true, but I wanna know if anyone else has had the same happen.
so... apparently my meds never got approved from "upstairs" and noone noticed until now, and suddenly it's a huge problem.
(which is not my fault, GP should have gotten approval right from the start or something)
second problem is that my endo made a mistake with what I'm taking and now my GP can't get approval before getting the correct list from my endo and my endo isn't reachable all week.
so... I'll be getting a private script today that I'll have to pay for myself... then wait until the screwup is resolved and try to get my money back.
I'm not made to deal with stuff like this.
nothing specifically because there aren't really any proven effects.
but it may or may not help with breast growth (mine are kind of underdeveloped) and all kinds of other bodily functions, and it's part of the normal hormonal makeup, so why not.
taking natural micronized at 100mg
I suggest before or just after serious kissing. My rule when young was to tell them while dancing, before finding a spot to cuddle or fuck.
*hugs* Hope it gets resolved soon and in your favor.
Preventing estrogen dominance. Apparently when you have to high of estrogen to progesterone ratio, thyroid hormones can get messed up. It is the reason many women develop hypothyroidism during menopause.
As for dose, there are three major types, and the doses vary by two orders of magnitude.
Cool, and good luck!
at least I have some for now again, funnily enough I know now what they usually cost without insurance, not expensive at all really, the prog costs about double what I would pay normally anyways.
yeah I read about the thyroid function things too, and a lot of other things like fat metabolism... but it's all really just theoretical I guess.
Aw I'm so happy today
Just noticed that my cheeks got bigger and it really helps to hide my male features. Also got gendered properly by someone.
What's some cool stuff that happened to you recently ?
Not to sound rude, but if you have a penis doesn't that pretty much automatically exclude you from the lesbian label?
I'm Transgender myself and only really like women but I don't really identify with lesbianism or anything like that.
At my rate of change in attraction, in a year I'll have to give up my bisexual tag, and just be het. Maybe it's just the women I'm around, but I increasingly view them only as friends, not lovers. Men on the other hand are giving me whiplash...
I don't think people understand what a label is if they think it's a matter of personal identity...categorization is not based on feelings. If you are a trans woman and you like other women then you -are- a trans lesbian. It's as simple as that. You can't just "deny" a label. It applies to you whether you choose to accept it or not. I'm brown eyed, I can tell people I have no eye color, but that'd be factually incorrect.
>tfw another few mysteries solved.
I spent the last few hours translating Monegasque with the occasional Latin, French, and Italian words to English. On a back address book page labeled Atro, "other" in Monegasque, I found an entry that roughly translates to
>prescribed feminine hormones 81/10/05 by m11, pharmacy b21"
m11 and b21 refer to address entries for a doctor and pharmacy in Nice. The date is less than 2 months after I negotiated being a courtesan rather than mistress with my first client. It also explains why I switched from gym class to art class in November of my jr year of hs, and why I didn't take gym class at all during my sr year of hs. It also explains how I had roughly AAA boobs when I first went out with the quad, and why I told them I was transitioning on the second date. They would have seen and likely touched my boobs on that first date when we all ended up in bed together.
Huh I see why my therapist thought I might have BPD. I have ADHD and have serious problems with authority and am totally estranged from my family even without them knowing I'm a degenerate.
>tfw lying in bed in the morning literally being unable to get up... starting to think as always...
>missed out on every opportunity to experiment when young.
>young & inexperienced people will try to experiment or make out with other young & inexperienced people, or with older experienced ones.
>older & experienced people know what they want and will make out with other experienced people or young & inexperienced ones.
>nobody seems to be interested in older & inexperienced people.
>tfw will never be able to get any experience and am only getting older.
>tfw will die alone.
>Getting divorced because wife hates how girly I am.
>Realize I can finally become what I really am.
>Start working towards going through transition.
>Long-time lesbian friend wants see what I look like to see where I am headed.
>Deny her, because embarrassed over masculine features.
>few days later; last night really.
>Work up the nerve to do a selfie and send it to her without warning that its coming.
>She shits herself when she realizes its me, and begins trying to desperately get me to meet her and the surprising number of transfriends she keeps.
Th-There is hope?
of course there is hope.
no matter who you are
nor what you look like
will want to use you sexually
to satisfy some fetish
You need passion, pick up the guitar or something, find something you like
I got into guitar and for a while I stopped even thinking about being trans or not having a gf, I just got engrossed in it
Anyway I'm saying this because I figured out the only real way to live life is to have a passion that isn't other people's love; maybe you have to be autistic for this I dont know
>find something you like
I do have a few things that I like... pretty much stopped doing most of them because of loneliness and depression... like it works the other way around, I need someone to actually enjoy doing something again.
I really loved to draw until a few years ago, but then I couldn't find any joy in it and it became like a chore. What I'm thinking is that maybe I should push myself to draw again even though it's tedious at first, in the hope that maybe I can start enjoying it after a while ?
I don't know if it makes any sense.
What do you think of trying something similar ?
When you rely on other people for your happiness, you expose yourself to their bullshit, and guess what, unless it's your mother these people care more about themselves than you on a subconcious level. Is that bad? No, you are the hero of your own story.
Anyway, you're posting here and you're depressed, you're also trans so I can understand that you are a shy person. You are not going to get what you want from people unless you can improve (it is a learned skill) your ability to speak to them
If you /really/ /really/ /really/ want a gf google the red pill. Read passed it's use as an outlet for misogny and focus on the truths in its philosophy because they aren't only evident for the sex you're into, but for every person on this planet and the way they treat you
>back from doc.
>Gonna try different AAs than Spiro.
>she's suggesting a GNRH antagonist first.
>$1,200 a month plus $300 injection cost.
>having them check to see if it is covered by my insurance and drug coverage.
>I don't think there is a chance.
At that price I could get SRS in two years.
>We also discussed bicalutamide and progesterone.
Sounds like depression has gotten hold of you.
Bummer on the marriage.
Good luck with finding new friends, and transition, however far you take it.
pretty much my situation, I should push myself to do more again ._.
you say that as if I chose this, I don't want to be alone, I don't want to not have friends I can hang out with, I don't want to be okay with that.
I am actually going to stuff like every week now, but things just do not happen, and I don't even mean finding a gf.
iktf, at least I have one friend I can spend time with... online ._.
pretty much keeping me alive.
those prices are like extortion
What the fuck is the point of being a MtF trans but you still like women?
What kind of retarded logic is that? Were you so ugly as a male you just decided to be a pretty woman and fuck women that way?
You can just google size chart and find some. Look for ones with actual body sizes, and diagrams for where to measure them. In general with women's clothing, each company has their own sizing. It can get frustrating. Often it is grab a couple and see which one fits.
Hi /tlg/, I lurk every now and again and want to vent.
My family are transphobic and as such I've come out but felt unable to transition.
I also lift to try and cope with my dysphoria by blocking it (and my psychosis) for a short while when I'm exercising.
I recently bought some guy clothes to curb my recent feelings. I'm also discouraged by the social stigma that affects trans people.
As such I'm going to put up with this, for the rest of my life.
>tfw flashbacks of an unwelcome kind
That's what the nurse told me. I've heard that price before. I forget the exact name, but it is the same one used for puberty blocking.
My endo is suggesting depo-provera or pill provera instead as a more affordable alternative. I'm seeing prices for it being $50 to $120 for a three month shot, and as a standard birth control med it should be fully covered. Depression, and calcium loss from bones are the two things I see worrying about it.
Spiro is likely causing me some of my exhaustion problems. Bicalutamide also has the possibility of causing exhaustion problems.
Also that I think is one shot every three months, but it costs $1,200 a month for the drug. So it is 3 * 1,200 + 300 every three months. At that price, I can get SRS in a couple years. o.O
>tfw I already do, and we're getting married this summer~
I'm transgender pre-everything and worried that if I do transition I'll be alone forever.
It's basically impossible for an ugly MtF to find a woman, right? I'm extremely masculine looking and too poor for surgery. If it matters I won't be able to get SRS for a long time due to the aforementioned money issues and am not comfortable with my penis at all.
Would it be easier for me to find a woman as a man?
>straight guy repressing trans feelings
>straight guy after accepting trans feelings
>lesbian transgirl when I start transition
>now 'lesbian' transgirl undergoing HRT, but occasionally thinking about a huge piece of meat reaming my butt and filling me with love batter
Am I losing myself to estrogen?
I'm not going to tell you whether you should transition or not, because I know jack shit about you, but you sound like a complete emotional trainwreck.
Regardless of your gender or sexuality, getting THAT fixed will help your chances immensely.
so valentines this sunday, lovely girl i know at work. Stupid crush on her, problem is I still look incredibly shitty and not on HRT yet. Do i bother knowing that it could probably end shit real quick?