How is this even possible? Hoax?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xjM-wJYMCg
Spiegal apparently did her FFS, but I've been told by practically everyone that his work is "subtle", and most of the results I've seen from him were:
>before
Masculine
>after
Hon/Androgynous
This person wasn't passable in the before photos, or even close... so what gives?
Makeup
Cause she was taking bad pics in the before. She has big feminine eyes and a narrow face without getting into horse face terrirtory. This is huge!!!! Most mtfs heads are way to long or wife or big in general. Eyes are also huge. If you have a big head and small eyes.... Well you are going to look uncanny as fu k and ugly there is nothing to be done
the nose
dat nose and jaw...
damn i need ffs
>>5587259
I think she's in the uncanny territory in the after pics. Especially in the middle one. She just looks off, but I'm not sure how to describe it. Like the brow and nosebridge don't look quite right.
>hon
>on the internet no one passes
>>5587513
I know you're making fun of the ridiculous standards everyone is held to online, but it's easier to pass in pictures than IRL
>>5587547
Yeah, both points are true, you have more control over which details to focus on in a picture so you can make them look misleading and radically different from what the average person will notice when looking at you in person, but also people tend to be a lot more critical of details in a picture that nobody actually thinks about when looking at other people in person.
>>5587547
not true for everyone. i look fine in real life. never get clocked. always get people surprised. in pics i look like man in dress
I know her irl, she always looks kinda funny in pictures but in person she looks like a normal girl. I always thought speigal was fairly aggressive because of her results, I figured the "speigal is too subtle" thing was a maymay
>>5587793
But then you look at gigi and its pretty clear he is not aggressive enough
>>5587831
Literally who? Maybe hes changed his technique over the years
>>5587831
But Gigi passes senpai.
>>5587793
Heh I know her IRL as well. I first met her a few years ago so I had no idea what she looked like before transition but she definitely looks good now. I wonder how she convinced Spiegel to be so aggressive. Sometimes with his more unfortunate B/A's you can barely tell the person had FFS.
>>5587882
Someone post the picture of her standing next to Katy Perry lel
>>5587882
>Gigi passes
>>5587047
because looks are somewhat genetic and that person hit the genetic lottery for male and female hotness
also makeup
>>5587047
Plastic surgery for the face? At least the chin. The rest can be make up.
>>5587992
>Plastic surgery for the face?
Thats what FFS is senpai
>>5587971
>that person hit the genetic lottery for male and female hotness
I don't get this. You can be a very attractive male and make a horrible girl. It's not like they were androgynous to begin with.
>>5587992
Then why do so many people look awful after expensive surgeries? I'm not even talking about the people who transition during middle age.
>>5588037
>Then why do so many people look awful after expensive surgeries? I'm not even talking about the people who transition during middle age.
Because they go to shit third world surgeons under the impression that: "Oh but anon! You're getting the same work for less money! [Shitter surgeon] is just as good as [Amazing surgeon]!"
Or they're just ugly hons
>>5587047
>that pic
>handsome qt turned into a girl
>>5589211
Join us, anon. We can all be little girls together and the world will finally be free of disgusting, hairy, barbaric males.
>>5589211
>implying anything wrong wth more femboys
>>5587047
>that video
>>5589211
>This anon
>Another virtuous young man corrupted by the gay agenda into not filling cis vagina's with his cock
>>5587047
Looks like well done surgery to me senpai
>>5587547
>cherry picking
much easier to pass in pic
>>5587047
Pretty sure I read somewhere she had ffs
>>5591286
>if you want to because female to be pretty then you are not true trans
If you don't want to be pretty you can't really call yourself female. The pursuit of being pretty is the basis for all femininity, the symbol for female is literally a mirror.