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What is the difference between a trap and a pre-op trans girl?

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What is the difference between a trap and a pre-op trans girl?

I've seen people on /r9k/ claim the latter is fine but the former is not, or that traps are gay and trans girls aren't.

Can someone explain what the difference actually is? I don't know.
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Pre-op trans girls will get the 'chop' one day, identify as a girl, take female hormones, and some outright live as women.

Traps are sometimes trannies, but are also sometimes just really, really girly dudes who still identify as dudes.
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Trap is slang, there's no solid definition. But when used in this context they probably mean a transvestite who just dresses up for sexual reasons, but still identifies as a male and lives as one.

A pre-op trans is just a trans who hasn't had their dick removed. "Pre" might not make sense because a lot of trans don't do that. But they could be called "traps" as well...

But you're a moron if you care about adhering to some arbitrary definition to seek approval from fucking 4chan users. If you want to live as a guy, but dress up as a girl and post pictures online, more power to you.
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