Look apon thine images and revel in the horror.
NSFW images of SRS:
Chett and McGinn: http://imgur.com/a/6q7ao
Misc SRS: http://imgur.com/a/6ueJD
Unknown SRS: http://imgur.com/a/f0jRN
Talk about those dirty bitches that don't deserve SRS before you, laugh at the mistakes of AGP trannies, disgust your friends with images of melting necrosis vag, all this and more within!
Daily reminder that if you are mentally unstable enough to want to mutilate your own genitals you need to be locked in an insane asylum. That is all.
But wanting to be a girl with a dick is totally okay! It's just a feminine cock afterall.
Fuck you, there's no cure other than going through with it, so don't act smart.
being a girl with a dick IS ok you moron thats what being intersex is. Or are you saying all those intersex girls out there that still have there penis are somehow less female than you because you sliced up yours for a fake vagina?
top fucking kek
the lies and mental gymnastics hons tell themselves in order to think they are real girls.
You will never ever have a vagina. Ever. That is not a vagina, it is a sliced up penis that looks like a vagina and kind of emulates one.
>that looks like a vagina and kind of emulates one.
Thats the whole fucking point of transsexualism. We won't be proper women and we won't have proper vaginas and the only people putting that bullshit into our mouths are either SJWs or poltards. So gtfo this board.
Noone here gives a damn about intersex.
thats not how biology works.
>im a raging hon: the post
its ok to be mad that you will never pass but placing all your self loathing on your penis is kind of silly becuse once its gone you wont have anything left to scapegoat.
SRS is a scam by rich greedy surgeons who convince mentally unstable trans people they will be getting something even close to a real vagina.
I'd be happy about just a peehole, the neovag is just a plus as long as my junk is gone.
Now stop saying hon in every posts, it's tiresome and already tells you're just here to bait anyway, while in reality you want a cute trap cause you're a closet fag like all the others who sound like you. There's enough dick for you, don't worry.
>thats not how biology works.
but penis and vagina are very much homologous so you need to elaborate much more to b taken seriously. you might as well say any reconstructive surgery is not how biology works.
They are a problem. There's scientific info on it and you obviously don't have any experience, so why do you think you know anything?
Plus dickgirls are nothing but internet culture, what's more degenerate than living the meme life irl?
I'm intersex and like number 2 and I want srs desperately to turn my hermaphrojoke phallus hell into a vag but linked up to my cramping bitch of a mini womb. Then I can finally be cis
except if people understood that transsexualism is just a type of intersex instead of seeing it as all this sjw gender politics bs then it would just be seen like any other intersex condition and not saying bs like what you just said.
Well you basically are saying intersex is "true transgenderism" when thats not true. Intersex has many different conditions. There are different names for each different sex development disorder. Transsexualism is just one diagnosis out of all those conditions. If people saw it that way there wouldn't be all this bs sjw queer fuckery. In other words transsexualism is a medical diagnosis for one of many intersex/sex development disorders there is not elitism or pyramid.
It is just a way to wear the woman's skin. If you take hrt your body becomes more woman, get the dick chop and you can wear a vagina all day long, just like clothes.
Take hrt, chop dick, wear dress makes you wear woman.
is there medical sciences suggesting that it is a physical problem ?
is the treatment shown to be effective ?
have you been checked by one or more psychiatrists to verify it isn't something mental ?
if yes then go for it
well if you find some evidence for your idea come back
till then consider talking to a doctor or psychiatrist for in depth explanations as to why transsexualism is a real thing and hight dysphoria isn't
There is no science in psychology. Psychologists are a fucking joke who abandoned all credibility to suite the politically correct ideals of the government.
Did you know that the majority of psychology papers can't be reproduced? If this was the case in chemistry then there would be absolutely no funding for any chemistry research whatsoever, but psychologists keep pulling shit out of their asses and passing it for """"science"""".
so are you here to be a smartass despite being considered in the wrong by the medical community or are you here to actually listen when you ask a question? if the latter go to the mtf general and check the studies link.
Look. Science isn't really important. Who cares what some guy in a labcoat said or what studies he did. If you want me to support, accept, or tolerate your lifestyle you have to justify your choices in a way that makes sense to my logic.
This is why trans people are still hated today. you do nothing to appeal to people's logic. You just cry and point to science as if it was a definitive answer.
shame that neurological science is the one having to do with transsexualism nowadays since medical science shows that it seems to be a physical and not a mental problem
but hey nice try even tho psychology is a science
Besides you're either girl or guy, there's much in your head that distactes this.
The arguments people like you always come up are nonbinary, there's several races, there's in your case several heights, several skin colors, several species, several kins, several god knows what.
But as far as transgenderism goes you're only one or the other. Such an issue couldn't exist if your brain worked on a spectrum of a particular identity, rather than binary, because then you most likely wouldn't even know whats wrong.
Just trying to get you to understand why you aren't gaining any traction with normal people. You really need to explain this shit logically. Why does it make sense? Don't expect people to read studies written by uptight scientists. You will come off as condescending. Explain it in terms that make sense to people. Appeal to the logic by which the average person functions.
Psychology is not a science. It's weak and pathetic. Have you noticed how popular psychology is in universities and how many idiots choose to study it, along with sociology?
It's because it's easy, worthless nonsense.
Most psychology papers cannot be reproduced, hence it's useless and not a science.
You will never find a chemist, physicist or mathematician who considers psychology to be a science. Even psychologists hesitate to call it a science.
I agree with that cause I had 9 years of experience with psychology as patient, but nontheless, transsexualism can be diagnosed neurologically. Afaik there's just this problem that the person needs to be dead first for autopsy.
You mean "you will never find any scientists, whose expertise is in science (so they know all about science) who will call psychology a science".
Even these psychologists barely know what to say. The fact that there is even a discussion about this favours that psychology isn't a science.
Also, that shit about "subdiscipline of biology" is meaningless because of pic related.
Well, everyone has a picture of themselves. I for one felt my dick was out of place as early as 5 years old. So I actually tried to pull it off as child.
That picture of myself developed into something very concrete that would haunt me and remind me that it's not the body I'm in and it made me feel depressed. I guess it was okay when I focussed on something that would distract me from my body, but that's kinda hard as you do pretty much everything using your body. Looking down on myself was like the worst thing I could do about it.
If you think you're male you also have some mental picture of yourself. And that one, surprise, is male. Which is why when you lose a limb, you know it's missing cause you know it belongs where you picture it to. Seeing that it's not there anymore will stress you not only for the fact that you're disabled.
I didn't know transsexualism is a thing until I was like 21. All I knew was that there's transvestites and that I feel I shouldn't be a man. I wasn't low test or anything. But I sure as hell knew I'd never but on dresses without changing my body, cause that literally gives me nothing.
So for the longest time I thought it was just a phase, I need to work out to man up, gotta get a gf but all that only brought me closer to my body and I started to wonder what if I just take contraceptives to make the test go. And then I first encountered transsexualism, so I guess the more youth you let into the internet, the more of them can find info on the issues that plague them.
I'll not deny that probably a lot misdiagnose themselves because they just can't deal with society as beta male, but that's internet culture. I wouldn't be surprised at all about this trend. Without it I would still be poking around on my mental issues to figure what the fuck is making me so depressed. Instead I could try to find the answer myself.
Unless you cut his brain open and take a look you can't possibly know what's going on, but have fun fucking up your son. I'd be worried where my parenting went wrong if my 13 year old was already depressed.
Yeah, that's how good parenting works, right? Give your kid all the liberty it wants. I'm sure he'll turn out real healthy and mentally sound.
But really, don't ever breed, you sound like a terrible parent.
There are physical parts in the brain that classifies transsexualism as a sex development disorder. The brain is considered to be a sex organ. There are people born with vaginas and have xy chromosomes and have a female gender identity. wouldn't they have a male identity? No because chromosomes are not the only thing that determines sexual development.
>I'd be worried where my parenting went wrong if my 13 year old was already depressed.
My parents never seemed concerned about their parenting or my mental health after I spent most of elementary school being depressed. The school had to make them take me to see a therapist after I threatened to jump off the school's 3rd story. Therapist didn't even do shit. My parents just took me for like one or two appointments and that was that. Never got to actually speak with the therapist since they mostly were there talking about me.
Childhood depressions is always a sign of much deeper issues.
My parents could have found out I was a degenerate since an early age.
Then weed and pills by the time i was 14.
...being high at a therapy session where your mom is begging them to give you bipolar meds, Adderall, and antidepressants is pretty kek worthy
I think it can't be overlooked that only the rich can afford srs and that's fucking bullshit.
And the other issue is the people absolutely unbelievably fortunate enough to afford it treat people who can't afford it like they aren't trans enough.
Only thing that can save me is good employment and that is near impossible to get in this shit economy.
I am sick of people talk about srs like its no big deal financially but it is. Its like buying a brand new car in cash, and some people have no clue how hard it is to make money.
>want a cute trap
but im already a cute trans girl in a relationship with another trans girl. i only browse legbutts to make fun of hons and delusional mental patients who want to mutilate themselves.
>but penis and vagina are very much homologous
>i have literally never taken basic sex ed or biology: the post
>the hons think this is how it works in real life because someone drew it that way
lilly we already saw pics of your gross fake vagina. i dont know how anyone could have that things between their legs and not feel like they wasted all of their grandmothers money
>an overly simplified graphic totally explains all the differences between the sex organs.
every post iv ever read of yours makes me think you are underaged and naiive as fuck
its a simplified graphic I'm not saying it explains fucking everything retard. If you talk to most intersex people they say they are like one of them. It mainly used to explain it in a simple way for idiots like you who are so bigotted they can't understand shit.
if i wanted to waste time reading the thoughts of underaged tumblrinas id be on tumblr sorry
right and every human starts out as a sperm fertilizing an egg. Just because something comes from something else doesnt mean they are interchangable you inbred moron.
>im a gay fetishist who dresses up to attract "straight" men:the post
transbian>gay fetishists sorry
this is your average transbian couple. the average "straight" mtf is a fugly hon
like did you really fail grade 9 biology? wtf is wrong with you?
well il try to find a pic for you hold on
k some of these have both penis + vagina
obviously u arent going to find many naked pics that arent porn but u wanted pics so there.
i know that first person is fake/ surgically altered, but thanks thats really all i wanted, looking at the wikipedia articles, none of them really matched the description you mentioned so i wasn't sure if you were bullshitting
i mean its not common but it does happen and they are considered female even if they have a penis. In fact its now considered a human rights violation to have their penis removed in the first place.
are you implying renrikka and remillia arent transbians? how about these 2
>lilly we already saw pics of your gross fake vagina. i dont know how anyone could have that things between their legs and not feel like they wasted all of their grandmothers money
Funny thing is once you do pay taxes like we do in Germany you feel very much entitled to demand everything be paid for.
If it wasn't for taxes I'd have gotten every possible surgery already and still have spare cash.
I'm currently planning my orchi and wonder if anyone here has done one?
Does someone want to share theirs?
I know, i know you shouldn't do it because the skin atropies but i don't know when i will have my SRS, or when i'm ready for it. I hate my genitals A LOT and removing those things would be 1000x better than the current state. Also it's covered by my insurance, same with SRS.
I see your point but implanting fake balls would be the opposite of what i want. I'm currently reading up some post orchie stories and it seems that its not *that* bad, and can be helped with stretching every now and then.
I will have a talk with my surgeon next week, but it seems to be quiete common as a first step.
I don't want to get them removed cause of the meds or something, but because of tucking and my hate for the feeling down there...
I do, but I know that is a bit out of reach. Maybe Bernie will come out as hon in office and give is what we deserve, free srs, free ffs, free implants, free fat grafts, free voice surgery, and free hormones.
>to suite the politically correct ideals of the government.
but in the US and many other countries, the federal and local governments have been discriminating against trans people far past the point where psychological consensus shifted.
iow if anything, the government would be bowing to PC psychology not the other way around
same. always thought it would go away once I manned up with a regular GF and sex. wish I would have known 10 years earlier that I could do something. all I knew is that telling people wouldn't help, only let people know I had some bizarre fantasy.
A man can never become a woman nor can he ever possess a woman's body parts.
A man has the option to become trans and forfeit his manhood, but this does not make him female, he is not still male, and he is not the equivalent of intersex. Trans is Trans. It's not even a null option its like writing your own answer on a multiple choice test.
You wanna get a frankengina go ahead, enjoy your weird phantom penis feelings and the disconnect between your brain's map of your body and it's actual state.
You sought a physical solution to a mental problem, and your dysphoria won't be going away any time soon (or ever)
careful you might make them kill themeslf when they realize the amount of doublethink they are doing by considering them self
female but considering other trans girls as male.
the reason you will never post it is because it looks disgusting. Period. I even heard from cyanide and whats her name, ugh, amelia and hito, whoever those girls on kageshi are, they all said it looks fucking disgusting.
You will never ever post it because you are ashamed of what happened and just dont want to admit it to yourself, but we all know hon ;)
You mean lilly might do something drastic? shes the most evil, catty, self centered, narcissistic delusional hon in the world. Once upon a time i saw a few other trans girls try to be nice to her and help her get better but, she burned that bridge a long time ago
So far it seems like SRS vags look fine head on. Maybe when I get mine I'll just never have sex or use a mirror then I'll be happy with it.
well, no one consented to being disfigured by androgenic puberty. i'm always surprised voice surgery and publicly funded research into that isn't in greater (effective) demand, since that also effects how you will blend in occupationally--you need to talk, communicate without humiliation or alienation to function in a workplace and life in general
also wtf asking to see someone's vagina, implying you have pictures of someone's vagina, doxxing vaginas?!?
mother of christ. i think pictures of someone's vagina is "personal information" and i'm pretty sure that that is one thing at least that is against the rules here and can get you banned.
How would one get SRS if they live in Australia, where there is no insurance for such a thing?
I live in Germany and I'll likely have to pay myself if I was to find a surgeon outside the country.
If I get my bloody WPATH papers at all.
Start sucking cocks for money like all the others.
I want to get it by the age of 22
I'm 18 now and will need $30,000 just for the surgery itself. Is this my only option? I've looked into moving to foreign nation but it doesn't look like I'll be able to access their healthcare systems?
>doesn't look like I'll be able to access their healthcare systems?
Probably not, but why 30k? I was counting on half of that.
Get me a job and a home in Straya and I'll pay your SRS, kek.
Just want out of this shithole desu.
That's what I heard the cost is in Australia Dollars
Plus not only that, there's the flight to the foreign country aswell since Australia doctors are like 30 years behind in their skills.
If I moved to a foreign country like say Canada, it would take me at least until I'm 26 (if I moved there at about 20) before I could get SRS.
I really don't want to wait that long.
No idea what aussie shekels convert to, but going by USD it's around 12-15k I believe.
I'd just get a job and take a credit once you're... credible, I guess. Living like a jew I could stash away some 1k a month, though I'm 24 already.
>i only browse legbutts to make fun of hons and delusional mental patients who want to mutilate themselves.
Thank god I'm not the only one. This place prides itself on not being a hugbox, but it's just a hugbox of a different kind. The only reason I come here is to shit on the delusional basketcases who can't take any criticism of their desire for mutilated pseudo-genitals.
>i dont know how anyone could have that things between their legs and not feel like they wasted all of their grandmothers money
>Do you want free FFS too?
Yeah, actually. Nobody can see whether or not I have a dick and I can choose not to interact with it mostly.
I can't hide honface and frankly unpassable trannies are basically subhumans who deserve whatever they get. I want to be treated like a normal human being. FFS is a necessity.
that's credible. a lot of this scrotal surgery seems to have been developed due to the right or wrong assumption that they cater to a population with less donor tissue (if true, could also be because in asia they get hrt earlier, i have no idea)
if you look at generic surgeons in asia that cost less, they seem to have adopted the same scrotal method depending on assessed qty of donor tissue, using scrotal when they deem it necessary but otherwise penile inversion being simpler with shorter recovery or whatev. suporn still seems to be the best at it (kindof disconcerting since this means nothing has changed over like a decade) so he seems to be the one known for doing it all the time unconditionally
>they seem to have adopted the same scrotal method depending on assessed qty of donor tissue, using scrotal when they deem it necessary but otherwise penile inversion
My surgeon in the west is like this, he mainly does the penile skin lined vagina but if he doesn't think he can get the depth or there's some other issue he'll use scrotal skin to line the vagina.
I guess that will be the plan
In Australia if you make under than $18,200 you don't have to pay taxes, so in theory if I simply lived at parents for a while I could eventually get enough money to get it.
>but im already a cute trans girl in a relationship with another trans girl. i only browse legbutts to make fun of hons and delusional mental patients who want to mutilate themselves.
So you're a gay man dressed as a woman dating another gay man dressed as a woman.
It's really an individual thing that you risk, some get increased, some get decreased. As it's a major surgery with cutting and splicing of nerves and blood vessels there's only so much a surgeon can do so nothing is guaranteed. However most people are still able to orgasm post-op, if that tells you anything.
For myself the sensitivity is pretty much the same but it takes longer to climax, so like the build up is slower but the sensitivity is the same, if that makes sense. Before I'd regularly orgasm in under 2-3 minutes, in fact it was hard not to. Post-op the fastest was like 10 minutes but I was like really, really horny, and the longest like an hour.
Can't answer the circumcised question as I never was.
>Is clit sensitivity increased or decreased compared to the dick post op?
depends on surgeon, your healing,labia position (same problem as circumcision) and post op care
personally it went up a whole lot from "can tap penis tip without problems" to "holy shit that's way to direct"
>Also what exactly do you lose if you're circumcised?
some sensitive due to the tip of the penis constantly rubbing against fabric and some lubrication
the former can be regained post op to a certain extend afaik but the latter not really
unless you are in a rush to get srs consider stretching your foreskin back to normal length (google it) if you wanna increase your lubrication and sensitivity a bit
Is there a minimum amount of time you need to live in the state for that? Is it restricted to docs in the state?
This would be a no brainer for me, I can't stand living in one place too long anyways. I will probably research all kinds of places that might provide me with financial help when I'm ready to pursue the snipsnip.
Nope you're wrong.
Chet says the following:
And Suporn says the following"
"Prior genital electrolysis is not required. Permanent genital depilation is unnecessary, expensive and uncomfortable. All hair follicles are manually excised (cut) from the scrotal skin during surgery, and will not grow subsequently. A hair-free vaginal lining is guaranteed. Prior electrolysis of the scrotal area may result in scarring and thickening of the skin which could reduce its elasticity and vaginal depth. If desired, only the perineal region (perineum) between the anus to the scrotum should be cleared (which can also be cleared after SRS)" on his site on the protocol page.
People like you are why there's so much misinformation out there.
You do have to stick with the doctors within the state. The facility I go to is in Boston its called Fenway Health. They make all those trans statistics posters you see all over tumblr, reddit, and 4chan. I was able to get my hormones in two months. I had to do an evaluation then they review all the new patients every month to see who they believe should start (mind you i didn't even dress feminine at the time at all, still looked like a full on manbear) only reason it took so long was because I needed the approval letter from my doctor which I was too lazy to get and also had to come out to my doctor too. Ended up switching to a female doctor cause i talked to the staff and they said if I did come out to the other I'd never get the approval. You can pretty much decide to take any kinds of pills as long as the doctors approve it which in this case there isn't any reason not to if you're over 18, etc. Just make sure if you do come over here you get a sweet female doctor, cause otherwise you'll be waiting a long time. Currently 19 now and almost a year of HRT under my belt.
As surgeons in the west typically do some form of penile inversion you are more than likely to NOT require hair removal pre-op. Unless you you have a really freaky hairy penis OR your surgeon thinks they cannot get sufficient depth through penile skin alone and will need to graft from the perineum or do a scrotal-inlay.
But your surgeon will be able to assess this and tell you if it's necessary or not. I was really worried about ending up with my vagina coughing up hair balls since I had some hair around the base of my penis but that part doesn't go inside. And here I am nearly a year post-op with not a second of hair removal and not a sign of hair in my vagina, not even a wisp near the entrance.
>As surgeons in the west typically do some form of penile inversion you are more than likely to NOT require hair removal pre-op.
interesting most surgeons here require it pre op (da west)