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No I didn't mean it that way bb. Its not you its me! Or something.
I want to get in closer contact with you its just I know you're so far away and also that you already have a gf ;~; I-I couldnt handle not being that close with you.
Ricky pls ;~;
It's usually not.
I was told my face was female except for my shit jaw and another person said I looked like a fat lesbian 3 years ago when boy.
Hugboxing, not even once.
Only ask bullies for feedback.
Well, think about it. We spend every moment of our lives, the moment we're born, creating ourselves. As we get older, we start applying masks, start showing people different things, but there's still the basic ego underneath it all, the central theme, and a lot of it is socialized. For the trans person, unless there's something drastically wrong, there's going to be some male socialization. For some part of your life, you're going to present as male, and that sticks with people.
Now, imagine that you can start that all over. People who have never seen you, never heard of you. Blank canvas, you can do a lot of things with that. Some people create another mask. Some people don't care. Some people take the chance to not even try to hide themselves. For a good 10-15 years, I have pointedly not told people my gender online, and hoped I'd be seen as female. It works a lot of the time, to be honest. It wasn't until six years ago that I learned that it's possible to be female. These names, and I often use the same one across many sites, mean a lot to me, because they're on my terms. I named myself, I created myself.
You remember the other day when you posted that webm with a frog getting gutted alive and served to that Japanese girl while still conscious?
heard that we are posting pre hrt men
oh and still look like that but with bangs and less weight
>you will never get honest feedback
Truly these are the worst times to live in.
mado I dont think /mtfg/ knows who noun is
how are you doing though?
But what if I leave mtfg forever or something. What if I'm permanently banned or my service provider dies on me.
I know what you mean tho. I kind of dug this ditch for myself. Oh well, time to face another one of my own messes I guess.
I'm already in hell. Also in Dante's version, I'd probably either be in the 9th level.
I'd be in level 1 myself. I live a good life, treat others well, and while I do not accept jesus as my savior, I do recognize him as a cool bro.
Also I'm Buddhist.
No Ricky pls its not a mess. We'll exchange contact info sooner than later ok? I-I'll always be here waiting for you ;~;
>tfw losing Ricky gf so im gonna go lie face down on my bed in a room of darkness.
>mom wants you to go shopping with her
>get too paranoid that everyone at the store is going to think you're a big, giant girly retard
Happy ending: boy actually flirted with me while we were there :)
Alright I will when and if i'm feeling better about this whole thing
Fuck you have? Who are you again?
I don't think I've seen anyone's scars before.
>haven't slept for 30 hours but decide to go to work anyways
>end up making almost 450$ in one show
>get a text from one guy i lost contact with who i liked telling me he was sorry and explained why he disappeared
>also get a snap from the gorgeousss guy i reallllllly liked who i was dating in the summer
>we usually snap and talk a good amount each time, but that's kind of it
>he's calling me darling, tells me i'm the best, that he misses me/wants to take me out
>"text me your plans for the week once you find out, alright? :)"
this was like AFTER i spent the day buying a TOOOON of beauty products and vintage skirts and dresses i wanted all of which were like 25~75% off. I'M SORRY I KNOW THIS IS BRAGGING BUT I AM SO HAPPY AND IDK WHY TODAY HAS BEEN SO GREAT!!!! IS THIS BECAUSE OF THE MERCURY RETROGRADE OR S/T IDGI???? i already got asked out on two dates by guys this weekend BEFORE today and i'm not even dating!! LIKE WTF
IDK but this is the best and i'm so happy and i hope ur all rly happy too and that the stars love u too
iktf senpai. I got blockers when I was just about to not be underageb&, yet I still look like Duke Nukem.
>tfw have elbows full of burn marks
the skin is like icky smooth deformed kinda way, havent done it in few months so i can explain it on my next appointment at the trans clinic as an accident when camping or something lol.
How come everyone says speigal isn't aggressive? A girl I know went to him and looks completely different now
i c i c desu desu
gin. double. elderflower tonic. slice of lime. ten please. line 'em up. it'll be enough to make me black out as existential terror and past demons tear at my flesh and the screaming gets too distressing for others
it's the same one from before just drawn like a cat because she acts like one
I always post the gems from su though, and she's peridot
the first board I went to was /b/ so I'm kind of desensitized to gore, but guro is still kinda new to me
Idk, I can only really handle wine
>trusting a german doctor
lol good luck faggot
My hands are too cold to smash otherwise I would.
I wonder if suzuya loves being fucked in the clit :3
s-so question, have any of y'all had stomach pains or problems passing stool after using a buttplug in an enthusiastic manner?
TO being trans duh
ANd it's like
having mind controlled
makes you hot
I dunno I just have a fucking square jaw. And the more I look I just see my brow bone extending forever. I dunno I know the feedback I get, but I don't get it. It's just weird, and I know that my self-perception is wonky, but shit, is their that much of a dichotomy between my perception and reality?
>tfw all I can think about is how I'll never pass when I even start HRT
>tfw I won't even know how to hide any of the side effects before I'm comfortable coming out
>tfw terrified of how my parents and family will react
>tfw whenever I try to feel comfortable by wearing whatever feminine clothing I have I avoid the mirror because all I'll see is a disgusting man body
>tfw whenever I'm happy my mind will bring me back down by yelling inside my head how I'm a freak who'll never achieve anything worthwhile
Still no idea! Not caring is fun until you lose something
idk, im just super moody person. had like let bf down (rly did) often and he kinda made me feel awful about it and on top of that there was trans stuff and such so it kinda escalated always into things alone at nights (weird that it happened always at nights lol). found it always so degenerate and embarrassing but couldnt stop.
totally trying to leave it to that now, things r a little better anyways though regret leaving bf.
hope you are doing better w it tooo, know its hard to avoid but totally not a solution in long term and it just gets worse
How do you use a buttplug in an enthusiastic manner? Isn't that basically just using a dildo at that point? I thought the whole point of plugs were to just be there putting pressure on stuff.
Anal is so weird.
going to sleep if you want awesome suzuya pics then their usually here.
i like draenei male
kinda relate to their foreheads and man faces
ps you're cute
>Still no idea!
Aw come on it's obvious by now. I'm starting to think you never noticed me slithering around desu.
aww I hope things get better for you in the future. I always do things when my gf is not around too, I understand why you think it's so fucked up but I kind of feel better doing it.
who cares if its degenerate it's just that we won't always be able to rely on pain and destroying our skin. can't fight fire with fire or something like that. I dunno, I still haven't figured out how to get rid of these feelings myself but I do genuinely hope you feel better. Estro makes mood swings go crazy ;~;
Ever since i came out as trans, my gay GUY friends and i have been drifting apart for some reason. Everybody else likes it but everytime im around my gay guy friends they keep telling me to cut my hair and think im faking it. And are really condescending now since i came out as trans. And i cant stand hanging out with them anymore.
Anybody else has this problem? I never knew that gay guys disliked trans ppl.
I can relate to orc jaw/chin and shoulders.
>into hypno/mind control
>its all SUCK COCK SISSY or WORSHIP BLACK COCK
>not gay, not into being cucked
Fuck if I'm not underserved here. Seems like a boatload of money waiting to be made for some enterprising individuals.
It's actually more like me being trans is ruining my ability to enjoy my fetish
>You will never be hypnotized and turned into a cute girl.
>People consider becoming female to be humiliation fetish.
Whats mtfg's fave champ to play in league and whats your main role?
Maybe I didn't! but i'm sure I noticed you at least once
I actually played DotA when it first came out. I was so terrible that after a couple months I couldn't join a game. So, MOBA is not my jam. I...actually am a really shitty video game player.
hi im back i lost weight, can i be a p grill naw?
Yeah, I know it's fucking hard to look in the mirror most days lol. I actually really think I need FFS though desu. I dunno, maybe I'm just being weird still.
But enough with my depressing interpretations of my own image, I'm running out of good emoviolence! ;~~;
nah usually its,
hurr durr why do you want to look girly?
you look better with short hair!!(fucking liars i looked like SHIT with short hair)
stop doing your eyebrows!!
ewww why do you shave your legs?
Obviously that's not gonna happen. Bit for curiosity's sake why are you so hostile to me? Did I do you something?
Seems like a personal vendetta at this point
my doc laughed at me for suggesting the idea l-lol
kinda went on and off on the idea that i needed it for a while and then felt better
im sure youre aware that others think otherwise
make some changes to your style maybe and idk, give it some time, dont do anything just yet
>I mainly play ARAM cuz I played too much and LoL is boring
>Not into furries
Also wtf is anons problem? lol I have no idea who Cartman is and I don't give a fuck about dropping trips to speak my mind, or whatever people were accusing me of before. Oh wah why do we let cater stay? What are you going to do about me posting here?
>maybe you're doing it too much??
>tfw no job
>nothing to do
>therapist recommended not using meaningless bar sex as a coping method
>haven't had sex in months as a result bc I'm too unstable emotionally to date
>almost no sex drive but there is literally nothing else to do besides 4chan and buttplugs
yeah probably but if I stop it then I'll just resort to cutting or hooking up with random guys fml
WOA my internets back
I can't anyways still have bad internet
sure memed u
>yours a goods friend!
aaa I wanna be a better one desu
mind control does seem nice desu .....
never really thought abt it tho !!
Uhmm yah how long have you been having pains ??
shouldn't persist that long o-o
Right! Finally, that picture gave it away. And I thought you hated me!
guys, what should I pick :
>"introduction to historical science"
>"sources and methods"
can't decide both sound interesting but the latter is 20% more work and focuses more on analyzing texts,carvings etc. than the science part
The dominant is the hypnotist, typically. There's a few situations where the sub hypnotizes for the dom, but the idea is the dom doesn't just bind the body, or doesn't even bind the body at all, but rather the mind.
While I am a sub IRL (I want a master so bad), mind control fetish is pure fantasy for me. I don't really want to include hypnosis in a serious D/s relationship.
>tfw you go to poop but then remember that you don't have to anymore
Why did you think that? Back when I said you shouldn't hang around here I said it because it's a shithole and because I was moody (like ALWAYS). I've always liked you, you're really cute c:
Remember if you spread your buttcheeks when you fart they will make no sound. Thats why people say cis-girls dont fart when actually they learn really young how to release gas without making a sound.
I fit in well with shitholes though and it's not like hanging around /b/ was any better. And i'm glad to hear it! Guess I just felt annoying to you. Thank you, you've always been a cute.
already do some of that stuff and the ones I don't do are dumb, like writing a blog
psychiatrist specifically said to not exercise because of muh eating disorder
already know how to do that shit
I fucking hate where I live
my transportation is a moped, plus gas costs money
no money m8
literally all shit tier
wow it's fucking nothing
I don't find you annoying silly! We all started from /b/ but we all outgrow it eventually. Personally I enjoyed it more back when it had IDs. But yeah. Oh btw sorry again for bothering you earlier. You could chat me up when you have a time, I'm always kinda bored and stuck with the americans because time zones and being a night owl...
I'm bothered by you shitposting steven universe pictures
could you possibly have worse taste?
could you possibly be more annoying?
could you possibly be more childish?
the absolute worst
>how can you not work?
no luck finding a job, had to move back in with family bc of depression, anxiety, eating disorder etc, had a job but it fucked up my eating and sleeping patterns so my providers recommended I quit so I did
>anons talking about their foot fetish
>leave for work
>3 threads and 9 hours later still talking about foot fetishes
I know you are agp but come on
>speak for yourself buddy
fucking face it, most of us are garbage and every trans person in porn has already gone post op and went to university, look at amy daly, kimber, hazel tucker, they are all post op and retired. If I could have passed I would have done porn so I could have been rich by now. I wush I was dead because so many other trans people pass by now.
I can't really say without knowing what you intend to do. My instinct is take course 2 and reverse engineer course 1. Download everything you can for free and learn on your own. Anything that isn't absolutely required toward a degree that basically guarantees a solid job, don't take.
i feel you on what you're saying. it's just like a very odd thing. i dunno, hopefully this dysphoria spike will be over fairly soon, but until then, it's just time to deal with it. i'd post some yoai but i don't have any. gomen.
l-lol i seriously believed it
idk a selfie doesnt say everything
take care pleb beb
heres a yaoi for u to have
>gf can't keep her hands and tongue away from me
>crush of quite a few other lesbos in our local community
creepy how you know so many pornstars by name
but hey if you wanna call yourself garbage go ahead
just don't try to drag us into your disgusting abyss
>My instinct is take course 2 and reverse engineer course
that's not how university here works m8
I have to choose on of them for my history class
>1. Download everything you can for free and learn on your own.
why would I download anything tho ?
we don't have expensive books @ university and 99% is on the moodle
not about a jawb tho
I wanna do what I enjoy rather than do some shitty engineering work
Reminder that the person in this photo is biologically female and a supermodel. /mtfg/ has retarded standards.
are you rawr
and no i dont, still fat af
maybe after 4ikilograms
>When are you getting stoned?
sorry I don't do drugs
>you fucking freak asshole faggot dickless fetishist.
Miss Cock pls xD
why does stewing and brewing make me laugh every time, god fml
>kyle calling someone else a freak
>looking like he does
o i am LAFFIN
Sorry, you can't say shit about my "cock" since you non stop spam about your government funded abomination hole being licked by you half french lesbian fuck buddy who met you when you were a man.
...oh. Well good luck then, I guess. Everything I've seen about people taking fluffy courses like history or sociology has resulted in unemployment and insane debt. If you're rich or something like that I guess it won't be a problem. Good luck.
>i can't wait for everybody to clock you while you're thinking these thoughts
what does that even mean? of course everyone clocks me because I am a fucking man, I wasn't privileged enough to transition young.
>you can't say shit about my "cock" since you non stop spam about your government funded abomination hole being licked by you half french lesbian fuck buddy who met you when you were a man.
>using pic with le serious expression
>thinks pictriev and co are in any way based in reallife
how the fuck does university result in debt
in every civilized nation it's free
Well, in countries where people are expected to do things for themselves instead of stealing other people's money to pay for their education there are various costs associated with higher education.
I guess the flipside is you go for the European model, but then those are countries who are literally being raped into submission by 14th century barbarians and who give people like Anders Breivik 20 years in jail for killing 80 kids.
I'll take some student debt over sharia law any day of the week.
>you're a manly asshole
something I can't control
>and we all hate you
yet if I passed everyone would treat me like elanna and dollface, as a "can't do wrong" kinda tranny. You are all sick if you value passing that much you will accept assholes and reject hero's.
What are you talking about? There aren't any contemporary countries worth mentioning that I can think of that aren't basically socialist in nature. If you take a look at the student debt bubble and the financial projections you'll find that they've been a colossal failure. That's because in the millennial generation basically everyone was told to go to college or university even if they had little aptitude or interest, and the vast majority of them took market-worthless courses like history.
Not that I fault anyone for wanting to learn about history. I buy second hand textbooks and read them because they're genuinely interesting and I like knowing the information. I just don't expect someone else to pay for me doing that, especially if its on subjects that aren't going to benefit the market.
>people dont even hate you here in the way you think
Every one hates me, even my own mother. no one likes me because I am not good looking enough. I never seen one passer here ever chewed out and that proves my fucking point.
Can't we all just agree that cats are beautiful creatures ;__;
I don't hate you but you're being pretty mean to others tonight...
>tfw the posters in this thread are the tranny equivalent to 3d whores
>market-worthless courses like history.
>I buy second hand textbooks and read them because they're genuinely interesting and I like knowing the information
lol sure you get much history out of them
>what is restoration
>what is archaeology
>what is experimental history
but hey believe whatever you like
>tfw you're the ugly one in the relationship
free college is supposed to be free job training plus rounding out the intellectual/creative corners of a population; the hard left wing goes "it's free, take literally anything for any reason, just get a degree for some reason" and the hard right wing goes "it's job training, fuck anything with a net negative return on investment and pay your own way too"
my cats are my babies
I... don't even have a response for this. I'm sorry. I'm so, so sorry.
Well not history no. I read political science, sociology, law, etc. As far as that other stuff you just listed, that's why I asked/differentiated between taking the courses "for fun" and for a "jawb". You said it wasn't related to a job field and that it was just an interest. Unless you're trying to tell me you plan on going to school for fun, becoming experienced academically in a field with openings, then not work in that field. That would just be retarded.
aww poor you but you would be living on the streets if your mom didnt care for you a lot.
if those things arent enuf you can always look at it in a meanie perspective which is p accurate:
you got things much better than most of us here financially and familywise
totally agree in behalf of everyone, best animuls as far as cute and petting goes c:
bläh though, now want one but wud be so irresponsible to just get one >-<
>from the uk
why would you use such a gross french name? You know the french are know for 3 things, stinky cheese, stinky bodies, and surrender. Remy is the name of a french piece of shit prankster who literally assaults people. Why would you ever want to be compared to remy?
please, look at a fucking history book, the french have always been a top tier military power
if you want to shit talk someone thats fine but make sure your insults arent bullshit
Right. I am not what you'd call a hardcore capitalist or a contemporary conservative. I don't mind socialist expenditures for things like post-secondary education, I just think they've been mismanaged to a very dangerous degree. The flat distribution of loans to people or worse yet writing them off is a massive waste of resources. Ideally, probably, there should be a bursary/scholarship system supported by the state that picks the best of the best and pays their way even if they're poor.
like totally but its your life so do whatever, people are going to hate you regardless if you pass, like to the point if you did post a pic you should change your locks and carry a gun.
>you got things much better than most of us here financially and familywise
I am good at manipulating people irl, if I wasn't I would be homeless. No one in my family loves me though.
I said reverse-engineer the course if you don't need it for credit concerns. If you can learn in one course how to extract information from sources, why bother going to take the introductory course? Just take the course to give you the tools and audit the first course or get a list of themes/lesson plan and research it yourself with the knowledge obtained in the second course.
>please, look at a fucking history book, the french have always been a top tier military power
if you wanna ignore agincourt and most of the 100 year war, the french revolution, the debts earned during the murrican independence war, the napoleonic wars, the franco-prussian war, the 2nd WW and the wars in the colonies
hey they were pretty good but not that good
fair enough, not a fan of it tho
Are you talking about the original purpose in a sense going back more than 100 years or what? If you mean rich people sending their kids off to higher education, then sure, it wasn't necessarily "job training" in that sense. There used to basically just be specific universities for things like Law or white collar executive work, and tradesschools for all the other stuff. But for the last few decades at least college has been pushed as pretty mainstream, and for the last 10 years it's been done to poor financial return - which is ultimately the most important thing where it concerns funding programs like student loans for financial purposes.
Listen I'm going to level with you, I don't have a problem with you personally. I don't know who you are and I don't care. I don't even really care what you look like. What you can do though, is you can fuck off. I don't care. Stop wasting your time telling me what to do, because your life is short and precious and I don't give a fuck what you think. <3
napoleon kicked ass
forgetting politics entirely france and all the places that could ever have been called france have kicked ass militarily
france was part of the reason murrica won independance
everyone says this
so the fuck what? france won many victories in the 100 years war
dont forget the war of the roses which they won
also everyone had to form a coalition to take france down which is only something ever done against someone worth that kind of unification
yeah I am and I am pissed that 2 trans people I talked to just had srs and like learning this a few hours ago fucked my mood up bad because they financed it by doing porn and I am too ugly to have done porn too so they are all transitioned now and here I am ugly and with a penis and rotten balls. I wish the whole world would cave in now
I do have a problem with you, and you know why, because I've explicitly told you. And I'm not going to spend every waking moment or post here telling you to leave, but I am going to periodically harass you until you leave this place like every other chaser/cis guy who has been here before you. Now get the fuck out.
Despite the hate you get, I actually enjoy reading some of your posts because St least it's different from the daily
>stfu ur ugly
>tfw no bf/GF
>tfw I will never pass
>I hate you for x reason!
Posts thathm happen every daybin every thread. You're also fairly polite which is always a plus.
You are going to get it so bad, I can't wait till the day I hear about your demise you fucking jerk. Also, nice pic covering your whole jaw, I am sure if it was ripped off that you would pass
I've always found engineering moderately interesting. I am appreciative of it. Put up quite a few houses as a framer, so my experience with engineers in real life is that most of them are lazy as fuck, but my gramps was an engineer in the military so I know the type varies a lot.
I think college these days is pretty indicative of many of the problems facing the western world. We've reached a degree of hedonistic wastefulness and social conflict that will undermine our achievements. That's why on pol its all reduced to DUDE WEED and ameriburgers for North America.
>napoleon kicked ass
except when he lost his fleet
and pretty much lost
>france was part of the reason murrica won independance
and this help was part of the reason the french revolution happened
all the debts yo
>so the fuck what? france won many victories in the 100 years war
most by sieges which is military good but just surrounding a city till it gives up isn't that "great" in terms of showing off how good your army is
>which is only something ever done against someone worth that kind of unification
not really, if the target seems easy why not join the winning side and get some riches ?
nothing to do with some weird heroic "we must unite against the biggest foe imaginable" idea
>war of the roses
that was an english civil war tho
I really didn't want to go after you but you ain't a complicated woman, you would need to first be a woman and then be complicated. But since you aren't a woman, you are just a complicated dude, but you pass if that makes you feel better.
Do they even serve sides in you frozen wasteland or do they freeze before they are even finished cooking? How are the icicles hanging from your faux "vagina?" oh that's right it would require getting wet to form ice crystals.