Which part of the LGBT community do you dislike most?
>Transguys are so annoying
>Most of them are egotistical little fucks
>Every conversation I've ever had with one always ends up being about them
Honestly, people who have extremely strong negative opinions about Good and Bad lgbt people. I find it immediately off putting if someone hates fat butch lesbians or flamboyant gay guys and etc. Are there certain behaviors and people that I'm not a fan of? Of course. But I don't find the very existence of those people an embarassment, and I think it's pretty immature/reactionary/self centered if someone does feel that way. Like there's an pretty popular FtM youtuber who fits the picture you used exactly but so what.
Pansexuals and other SJW nonsense created by upper class, white, cis women who want minority points without having to suffer any real oppression
As a guy, I find that FtM who caricature men are slightly less annoying than MtF who caricature women. Possibly because there are just so fucking many visible MtF by comparison.
Stop being a public tranny unless you actually try. It makes everyone else even more uncomfortable when you put in a barebones effort.
The white cis girls on tumblr that make up genders and self-diagnose themselves with dozens of mental illnesses to make themselves look oppressed.
Feminism is now synonymous with identity politics garbage.
I don't think it'd be fair to say trans girls because I know so many who are really awesome, and they kind of balance out the crazy sociopathic depressed abusive ones who I pity anyway.
I find it harder to sympathize with flamboyant gay men because there's very little common ground.
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Gay men are so annoying. They always want to be the leader and think they're better than everyone else even though they're the most degenerate and eata tha poopoo. At least only half of trannies are nasty homo males.
eh... i don't think there's an entire group of lgbt people that i hate, not that i can think of anyway... i do find highly religious (abrahamic faiths) lgbt people confusing, and i think those beliefs are toxic, and sometimes i feel a little embarrassed for the hardcore sjw types... but i usually have to get to know someone as an individual and they gotta actually do something to me or someone i care about to hate them...
Honestly the "crazy" lgbt related people I hate the most. There are so many of them and they destroy the lgbt peoples reputation because a lot of people think lgbt people are crazy and creepy bc of them. Like just fucking die or something.
Either trans guys (and I am one, I just cant stand their gatekeeping "im the real trans and everyone else is a faker"BS , and the fact that the most visible ones are white and pretend to be oppressed), or those trans girls on tumblr (yall know which ones im talking about) who whine all day about "cafab privilege" and send death threats to anyone who so much as calls them ugly, even little ass kids
Well that turned into a rant. Sorry, I seem to be very opinionated
"Genderqueers" and "non-binaries"
>Oh, we're trans too, that means we share the same oppression
>We too, have in our own way, experienced major surgeries we had to fund ourselves, and having to fight the health care system to get hormones, and having to deal with things we consider deformities
>Except, we didn't really, we just colored our hair blue
>But really, it's still just a different way of feeling the same oppression
>We can totally be spokes persons for trans people
>The transsexuals that don't respect us for the oppressed victims we are, will be excluded from trans spaces, because trans spaces should mainly be about talking about your preferred pronoun.
They're so fucking offensive and oppressive that it's not even funny.
I don't hate any specific part of the acronym. That would be stupid. Infighting gets us nowhere. That said, though, catty gay guys never cease to annoy me. I love the flamboyant ones, they're fun, but there's no excuse to build a bitchy persona just for the hell of it.
Cis women are my least favorite part of the LGBT. Not that they belong or anything but they have strong armed their way into the movement to play oppression while still maintaining all of their female privilege.
this desu ne. like i hate people like the one's on OP's pic as much as anyone, and i'm ftm. but it just shows an extreme lack of intelligence and critical thought to sincerely think that one portion of people in a group are representative of the whole.
if i were to state an LGBT group i hate unconditionally, it would anyone who complains about "sjws" and tumblr and whatever. it's a meaningless term thrown around at anyone the speaker doesn't like, no one self-identifies as one unironically and there is certainly no secret conspiracy in the media to "cuck" all cis white males.
you know what I hate? I hate it when people are annoying, self-absorbed ass-hats. ANYONE can be that, anywhere on the sexual orientation spectrum.
It's rare to see stereotypical shit now at my age, (early 30's) but I will say that I saw a lot of really dumb shit when I was in my teens/early 20's. A lot of LGBT kids at that age are getting into their accepting group of friends for the first time. I remember being really annoyed at how all the butch dykes were super assholes, basically imitating the WORST jock stereotypes because they that that's what it meant to be "male". I hate it when a guy acts like a dumb jock asshole, it's no better than when someone with a vagina does it.
By the same token, the newly minted fags I knew acted like total drama queens and I fucking hated it. I can't stand it when a ciswoman with a vagina acts like a total fairy queen bitch... so having a penis doesn't make it any better.
Like I said, that stuff was super common 10 years ago, but as people mature they seem to grow out of it.
TLDR - don't be a drama queen or a jock asshole, regardless of what you have between your legs
SJW comes from "Keyboard Warrior".
Social Justice Activist = person that actually fights for the rights of actual oppressed people no matter their sex, age or ethnicity.
Social Justice Warrior = retard that thinks having a vagina or being tumblrqueer is being oppressed. Or a white knight that thinks "if I'm a feminist all those rainbow-haired twinks will want to sleep with me!"
Plus the fact that most actual SJWs (I know there's misguided people that follow the movement but don't really know they're not actually helping anything) have massive, MASSIVE projection issues. i.e. hardcore male feminists are gigantic misogynists because women won't go near them so having the "feminist card" gives them control over women. Or white women who "fight for PoC" (people of color, really? Are we back in the 1950s segregated America?) just need carte blanche to be massive racists against those that disagree with them.
I love you all and I want you to be who you really are, but you need to shed the crazies in your movements.
all transpeople, have no idea why LGBT isnt LGB, people with natural urges are lumped together with mentally ill, body mutilators
well, for one, he was talking about people who are not trans and just using the genderqueer label to appear speshul when they're not.
secondly, that label means fuck all because it's such a vague term that it means nothing. it's like "bug", but worse because at least bugs have a general way they look, it's way harder to physically look at a psychological concept. it means nothing, there is no point in using that label.
I don't quite understand that either. Being gay, bi, and so on are sexual orientations. Being trans is a type of body dysphoria. It doesn't make sense to lump them in the same group because they're not related in any way. If anything, it'd make more sense to lump it with BIID, because at least they're in the same ballpark.
And yet people who're mentally ill also face lots of stigma and I don't see them included.
I also don't see how lots of the rights are terribly similar when the struggles are different. One often involves actual surgery, the other doesn't require anything of the sort. Being gay is minor, being trans will affect your daily life hugely because your gender and what you present yourself as affect you constantly on a day-to-day basis, whereas who you want to fuck rarely matters. Sure, both can and will be killed by certain groups for being that way, but they'll do that to anybody who does what they don't like, it's hardly exclusive to gay people and trans people. Not to mention that the possibility of transition is such a modern thing, that most religions barely mention it, if ever, because not only is it such a modern phenomenon, it's so damn fringe, too; gay people are a tiny minority as well, but trans people are significantly smaller than even that.
There are a lot of male pedophiles who go after young boys technically theyre gay should we associate with them, although pedophilia is much worse than being trans,but similarly to this hypothetical transpeople have been a hindrance to gay acceptance, there's a lot more social stigma and there not really the same issue.
It seems transpeople will just group with whom ever they can get due to being such an abstract minority, i never hear about trans rights its always lgbt or even in extreme cases they'll compare the persecution of trans people to blacks, ive heard the term "transwomen and transwomen of color", surprisingly often lately
All that doesn't really matter. To normies, we're similar, that's all that's needed to lump us together. I, personally, think the attitude in the LGBT community towards each other (mostly around here) is despicable with all the infighting, when we could just work together instead. And yes, I'm a dirty hippy at heart.
trans people are often mistaken as gay before they transition and treated as such, or mistake themselves as gay and live that way before they realize they're trans... in addition to the fact that someone can be gay or bi and also be trans...
+ even straight trans people can be seen as gay by unaccepting people who see all transpeople as their birth gender regardless of how far along into transition they are, and then still have the same shit placed on them...
it's a matter of closely related social issues, not that being gay is the same as being trans... just people dealing with similar social issues supporting each other and creating a bigger community than either could have on their own...
And yet not only do they not support each other because their issues are different and their individual vices are different (thus all the infighting), but it doesn't make sense on a practical level either. People associate them with each other because advocacy groups lumped them together; if they weren't shown like that in the media, they wouldn't be thought of as such. You're mistaking cause and effect here.
Yes, someone can be gay or bi and also be trans. They can also be depressed and trans. In fact, they probably are. They could also be anything under the fucking sun and trans. Just because people can be more than two things doesn't mean these two things are related or are logical to put under the same umbrella.
desu familia it'd probably make more sense to lump depression and transgenderism together than homosexuality and transgenderism because the cause and effect is real here, plus they're both medical diagnoses for mental issues.
People associate pedophiles more with the illegal act, and not the sexual orientation involved. The crime is just more important than whether they prefer having sex with little boys or girls.
well congratulations on missing the point entirely, did you even read the whole post? saying "ha! thats cos pedophilia is illegal" doesnt address transpeoples desperation for association.
It was a hypothetical but funnily enough reflecting on it, it is more similar to LGB. "going after" was a bad choice of words in hindsight, i was talking about men attracted to little boys, which is a sexual orientation, rape and consent laws only apply to action anyway, what about people who enjoy shouta porn thats not illegal.
except no straight pedophile is going to get lumped on with lgb as a member by other people or face that same discrimination... trans people do face a lot of the shit gay people face
and technically yeah those gay pedophiles are members of the lgb community cuz of their sexual preference not having anything to do with them being a pedophile...
no one is saying it's the same, people straight up say it's not and try to educate people on the fact that it's not, but in current society it's the same to the ignorant masses and the social treatment is similar... i imagine as people become more educated that will change...
nah i'm not mistaking cause and effect, people mistake transgirls for drag queens often, transguys frequently get mistaken for and treated as dykes... that's not just cuz of advocacy groups, that's just how shit works...
plenty of transpeople think they might just be gay and live that way before realizing they're trans as well... and again like i said there's also the fact that a straight transperson might still be seen as gay by other people and face the same issues...
it's got fuckall to do with advocacy groups and everything to do with reality
straight people with depression don't get lumped in with lgb issues just by existing and having depression, it's not the same...
btw trans people aren't the real problem when it comes to holding lgb people back, the bigger problems are how miseducated and ignorant your average person is + religion
blaming a small minority of people for the amount of ignorance in the larger population is senseless
i'm bi, i'm associated whether i want to be or not... but i'm not desperate to be associated with lgb, i don't care... i'm not getting involved with political shit, or going to parades, i don't own any flags, or take part in any groups or any of that shit... i sure as fuck didn't put the "t" there, and i'm not actively fighting to keep it in... i legit don't care, but i'm not blind to the obvious reasons why it ended up there either...
they are different, and one day i imagine they will just be separate... that's fine, but right now it's together largely due to the ignorance of people outside of both communities... and your average trans poster on 4chan has fuckall to do with it
>You're mistaking cause and effect here.
No, to most people, trans people are just ultra-gays and don't pretend it's not the truth.
>well congratulations on missing the point entirely
Thanks. Also, I could turn the whole thing around and say that you're too desperate to get rid of us.
What I was trying to say is, we have little choice in how people associate us. As I said, to most people, trans people are just ultra-gays, so that's why they associate trans stuff with gay stuff.
Anyone who politicises their LGBT 'identity'.
I would fucking love for some of these fags to travel back in time to the 1940s then have them complain about the commercialisation of gay. B-b-b-but I want to be an oppressed minority; it gives me hipster cred, fucking fags man.
Basically senpai, I think they can get more done on their own and we can get more done on our own. People would understand the struggles more - as right now they just try to relate homosexuality to transexuality and it fucks them up.
the liberal degenerates who think "we're on their side"
Women who claim to be trans men after learning about gender politics. Almost all trans men I've met seemed to have been this.
"Asexuals". I do not be asexuality truly exists, I think it's fictional garbage.
I sort of get pansexuality, and I know a few cool pan people, but I think most pansexuals are just snowflakes wanting to throw an label on themselves. On social media, every LGBT relating page has a few pansexuals saying something like "I KNOW HOW THIS FEELS BECAUSE I'M PAN LOVE KNOWS NO GENDER PAN PEOPLE NEVER GET ANY VISIBILITY DID I MENTION I'M PAN"
Any in between non-binary cunt that is basically cis except they die they're hair and wear thick red lipstick.
And finally, I hate bitchy, whiny, masc4masc gay men. "Wwwwaaaaah I'm not like other gay guys, I'm masculine and I don't like shopping and girl stuff. I live video games and lifting. I'm so alone...". Fuck the hell off, there are literally a million god dammned guys like you it's fucking amazing you can't find each other.