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like totally stale bread >>5553658
I am a neet princess playing vidya all day
But what's the point if i'm going outside for no reason?
I mean I don't even wear very manly stuff, just need better sizes in some things I think and I don't think I would even wear that different clothes?
Too bad my face sucks so I have to go full kayla to have a chance at passing.
I feel like I should win this since I stay inside every summer and i'm as pale as possible without having some condition.
We don't even have starbucks tho
Feels good tho.
13.00 per hour I work as a premeir customer service representative I work about 45 hour per week it's exhausting but I rarely get calls so I spend most of my day calling the stations and have them do shit. If you like I can post a link for you to apply.shit there's a vendor location in socal.
I found Elannas favorite video ever.
Greatest train video ever offered.
I like the "elanna is a chaser" meme, it paints me as a lot more forward and outgoing than I actually am
>tfw the biggest hon to ever be in these generals
Nah you can't even compete tbhon.
Even Edgar had a better face than me.
"The muscles which bend the finger joints are located in the palm and up in the mid forearm, and are connected to the finger bones by tendons, which pull on and move the fingers like the strings of a marionette. "
>tfw no bf/gf with their life together to give you the motivation to do more than just transition and break out of your neet ways and do something with your life
that's my personal bully you leave him alone Korra, I love him
How dysphoria inducing is going back to very short hair? My hair is 30cm long, but I feel that it might be easier to go back to short hair and just style it femininely due to family reasons.
>go to nerd fraternity a little while ago
>peoples are playing sm4sh
>literally the only one other girl there
>she didn't even play vidya games
meant text, a text book. Its stupid but before all this transition shit I wanted to work for nasa but I felt like is was a super outrageous and ultimately silly goal for someone with my limited economic and messed up social background.
We already knew you had shit tastes.
Dunno why you felt the need to further confirm that.
I'm not illiterate by any means. I am just depressed to the point of extreme apathy, I want to do things that require minimal effort because I learned that effort is meaningless if you are as ugly as me.
i've made around $500 from my current artist alias which i started in 2013, over 15 songs so not much money, but they keep selling like months/years after i put them out so it's not terrible
i used to produce pop and hip hop instrumentals when i wasn't even that good which i'd get like $200 a track but it was essentially ghost producing and i didn't get any credit or royalties for it
Sometimes Im reminded why being nice isn't worth it most of the time here.
Well that's kinda your own fault honestly, you can p easily improve ur life. But yeah it is really rude here 24/7.
I remember when I first came here I would be polite all the time and still got shat on for being fake lol. Now I'm like ehh why even bother they're gonna be rude catty bitches no matter what do might as well not waste my kindness on them.
>these people destroyed my life
Hun you did that to yourself. Why would you ever trip on an anonymous imageboard and be a cunt to everybody. You built your reputation yourself. Now deal with it.
so here's a question /mtfg/
how long into hrt should i wait until i start presenting? like a year, two years?
how long in did you start presenting?
how long in did you wait to start wearing makeup/get your eyebrows done/wear girl clothes in public?
Just be genuine. I hang out on the discord chat and well... I just do the crotchety thing but generally give all of you the respect you deserve.
>Well that's kinda your own fault honestly
Before mtfg I had a job, I went to college, I attended social gatherings. Now I am a literal hermit in every sense of the word.
You don't think that every time someone calls me ugly, stupid, or tells me to kill myself that I don't take it to heart? That I don't let it hurt me? I take everything that goes on in these threads seriously when its directed to me in a negative fashion. This place shit on my soul and TOLD me I wasn't good enough. I will never live up to the mtfg standard and my life is thus meaningless.
Why not? I mean for some reason the pricks that post here are so hyper critical of everything I do that the must be some sort of authority on whats feminine and what isn't, on what is good trans behavior and what is cringey. I mean I felt the blade of these peoples tongues many times to know I will never be seen by anyone as who I am inside. I am a worthless nothing and its only because I am manly looking.
If you dont like it just leave. Like honestly if this place is so toxic to you, find something else to do.
It'll be hard, but just take it one day at a time. Go outside and do things. There are people that will be your friend. I'm sure theres some chaser that would put a brown burlap sack over your head and fuck you too.
If you hate the way things are. Fucking change it because it will never magically solve itself.
I think if you get srs you don't have to take AAs anymore but that's about it. Otherwise it's for life.
I'm personally gonna wait till the 12 month mark. But depending on genetics and how well you pass youncan present female as soon as it comfortable
I'm pretty nice and polite by default but that's called hugboxxing and being fake here. Crazy I know. They're so used to constant negativity that any positive reinforcement is viewed as unwelcome and told to go back to Reddit/susans lol
Your first mistake was taking this place seriously at all. And all that stuff you stopped doing was it own fault. Its not like someone held a gun to your head and made you stop.
I'm ugly as sin and I don't pass at all, but I have a job, lots of friends, I attend college, and frequently go to social gatherings so you can use the I'm a hon thing as an excuse.
>If you hate the way things are. Fucking change it because it will never magically solve itself.
It magically changes for all of you. All I have to do is sit in front of my screen long enough and someone will come in here gloating about their latest accolade. Well when will my life begin? I want someone to be sitting at their screen watching my life unfold. I am sick of never getting my day in the spotlight.
I'm gettin kinda tired of the whole trans thing, I really hope I can just pass soon and not have to deal with the trans community anymore and just be a normal girl
How can you have any friends if people here call you ugly? I mean doesn't that make you want to crawl up and die? Isn't that the goal of every anon here? To shit on us every day until we give up? I honestly don't see why you go on, you make me physically sick sometimes and I don't know who can tolerate you to be honest. Not trying to offend but mtfg has me believing that mtfs act one way and if its hon behavior then its intolerable and one should isolate themselves from normal people for the public good.
You literally only see snapshots of other peoples lives. Do you think everybody else is just automatons going about business as usual and this is all easy for us?
Come on. Fucking do something about it. Save up money for your egghead surgery. Get plastic surgery. Fucking stop complaining about everyone else and how easy it is for us all. You're so narcissistic to think that you're the only person in the world that has a hard time.
Honestly this post sums up everything that's wrong with you. Ur honestly never going to succeed in life and its because of your attitude. Enjoy being a depressed failure i guess. Your attitude needs to be put in the trash and get an entirely new one cuz I don't see u going anywhere thinking like that .
>but do try to live your life already
So I can be made fun of by everyone? What kind of life is it to be ridiculed? I get that enough online, when I go to face the public's hate in reality I will implode.
>Do you think everybody else is just automatons going about business as usual and this is all easy for us?
Sure, no one here is me, so no one knows how hard it is. My life is hard, others are hard for their own damn reasons. Am I being unsympathetic? You damn fucking right I am because I haven't had a good thing happen to me since I started posting on this shit hole board.
>talking to qt3.14 for a bit
>mentions she's trans, tell her shems cute
>she goes in for a kiss
>I go in as well
>she turns her head away and shyly leaves
>hasn't talked to me since
Did I do something wrong?
>and try and trust your own judgement
How can I trust my judgement when everyone here mocks my clothing choices? Huh? How? Everyone makes me feel like shit because once in a while I want to feel good about myself, I want to feel pretty because I was never allowed to express that side of myself when I was young. Why is everyone here so god damn against me?
>How can you have any friends if people here call you ugly? I mean doesn't that make you want to crawl up and die?
No. Some random bitch on the internet telling me I'm ugly literally does nothing. Her opinion is worth less than trash so why would I get sad? I'm literally never going to see if meet her in my entire life.
>Isn't that the goal of every anon here? To shit on us every day until we give up?
Some anons are nice. But even if that's some of their goals so what. Why be such a weak pussy you let words on a Chinese cartoon forum dictate your life?
>I honestly don't see why you go on, you make me physically sick sometimes and I don't know who can tolerate you to be honest. Not trying to offend but mtfg has me believing that mtfs act one way and if its hon behavior then its intolerable and one should isolate themselves from normal people for the public good.
Lmao. Fuck you to you ugly bitch. I cant stanf you 200% of the time yet here we are. Im comometely different irk thrn i am here. Its a waste of energy to be nice here like i am irl. Stop listening to mtfg memes. There is no tranny committee that can decide what's ok and what isn't. Its *your* life just live it how u wanna.
You seriously are overblowing how much hate trans people get IRL. Just fucking go out in boymode if its such a problem.
As I said why is this place so important to you if its ruined your life. Fucking leave. I only come here a couple times a month at most and its nice to talk to some people, but this is like your universe now.
Just rip the bandaid off and stop relying on this community.
i don't pass at all
the guy who called me ma'am was probably blind and i was pushing my lips out like a duckface in the picture earlier, that's not how i normally look
plus i still have like 6 or 7 laser sessions to get rid of all my facial hair/shadow
you can't pass with a 5'oclock shadow
Did you ever think that they might still put you down? That no matter what they would find something to mock? The best revenge is living well. You should really just step away if it causes you pain.
Jesus christ. You have to work for it. It doesn't automatically happen. Transitioning is not just taking hormones and waiting until you're a girl. Its way more than that.
Your motivations are awful. I'm going to stop replying because I now know you're a lost cause and trying to talk any sense into you is just me making a mistake. Have a nice life
you know, i didn't even think it was possible for me to hate someone this much to say something like this. but kayla does this to me so much that i'm gonna step away before i have a literal aneurysm. pce
>Did you ever think that they might still put you down?
If say I magically turned into a cis girl I don't think a soul here could put me down, how could they? The entire attitude of mtfg and the fuckers that go here is centered around the idea of passing as an attractive woman, if I could ever achieve that then I would have won and beat them all. So far the top scores here are ufufu and dollface and there is no way I can beat theirs unless I had a million dollars in surgery and bought a male model for a husband.
You could consider dressing normally and not like your aunts, maybe people would think of you as some kinda role model to look up to.
Ufufu was cute but not that pretty.
Dollface knows how to live her life without a care but that's really it.
How do you even know what nationality anyone past your grandparents is?
Kayla your birth sex is not your problem. You're just a spoiled kid with nothing else to do. I wish a mod had the empathy to permaban you so you'd finally leave this place and fix your life. Staying here where you get all this negative attention is not good for your mental health even if it's all just a joke to you.
you sound resentful i'm squirting ketchup on miss cock and you are not
>Ufufu was cute but not that pretty.
People in here think Abby or Elanna is cute, so I dunno. Although they're all ugly themselves I'm sure. Ufufu was far better looking than anyone else in here except maybe Elfginger.
It sucks when the IRC explodes on you.
It's best to just ignore Kayla. She got all ragequity the other night when she got put in her place, then said she was leaving forever last night. It's kind of a normal thing for her.
is that really true? i think we both know it isnt
you just have to find someone who doesnt shit on you constantly like everyone does here and actually cares about you and id bet you start feeling differently
I just glance past what she writes and any words I do pick up get filtered mentally to "Blah blah blah I' a whiny little bitch".
Sorry but she earner my ire after trying to pull the holier than thou the other night.
the last 24 hours have been kind of weird, and i haven't slept the entirety of this time. i am going to document it all because ...i can
>randomly get like 10 items off of my amazon wishlist bought for me
>also randomly get 5 packages all today that weren't supposed to be here this week
>a friend of mine who i guess likes me asks me out on a date this coming friday, and i say yes
>stare weirdly at hair and decide to dye it black because i'm tired of brown etc
>feel so exhausted so i hallucinate for an hour
>randomly get a friend request from a guy i talked to mooonths ago on tinder
>he's really cute, 6'4", ginger, looks good in a suit, awesome etc
>he adds me and then unrequests me in the span of a few mins
>msg him asking if he was stalking me
>he says he was and says he was thinking about me and had really wanted to talk to me
>so he found me on fb and added me, then thought that it was a longshot and unfriended me assuming i wouldn't see
>i only saw this because i was awake at 630 in the morning
>he asks me if i would like to go out with him soon, say yes
>think he's just some player, see his recently added friends on fb and i'm the only one
>no gf or anything at all
>go to work, it's a weird crowd the entire night
>go to wash face, hear weird yelling in the yard on the first floor but no one is there
idk it was weird. so ya that was my day idk!!! i've been awake too longidk
I still love that fucking doll. Her heterochromatic eyes are hot as shit.
FUCK DOLLS. Where's my beer? Back in my day dolls sat around on shelves all day and didn't get into trouble and have highlander battles...
i can hear things tho
like loudness that's quiet
she hasn't had ffs. and i'm not walking over anyone kayla
idk i gues. i'm just not dating rn and it's weird af that i got two dates out of nowhere. and that one of them came from someone randomly stalking me and stuff it's just weird. but the guy who stalked my fb and stuff is cute so could be worse
but i don't have sex with people for money
I hope your dates go well!! I've had a couple dates these last two weeks and this boy I really liked told me he couldn't be in a relationship because it was a bad time, but he liked me a lot.
:( Hopefully my date tomorrow will go well.
Real hobbies, I guess in case your motorcycles, vidya, other entertainment outlets, so on. As for people, who knows..not much else option unless you want to be surrounded by reddit hons or susan's hons.
i want a bf but i don't want him to be a serial killer or a giant spider
Bi-Sexual MTF here.
I saw my Psychiatrist last week and told him what's going on, he wants me to do some Social Transitioning (family first as I live in the country and ignorant people tend to live here too) and getting used to the whole concept of being Trans.
My brothers, Mom and Aunt are supportive.
He wants to see me every 3 months.
How do I cope with waiting 3 months?
I just want to get the next step and possibly get referred to an Endro.
but I am anything but a supermodel like literally every other woman in this country so I doubt I'll ever even have a bad bf
Is this the theory that Kayla is just an elaborate troll?
I would shave but when I hang out with friends it would be weird since I haven't come out to them yet and probably won't till my next Psychiatrist visit.
I have been wearing Panties every day for the past 4 days, don't have any Pants or Shirts that are Unisex and I already have a girl name that I thought of a couple months ago.
She's partly for real. She's a rich kid who likes to pretend she has it hard, but she's entirely reliant on her psycho mom for it to stay that way. That's about where the reality ends.
H-Has anyone here ever had a cock in their ass and in their mouth at the same time?
>tfw girl I've been texting with as friends for a while said shed be cool with going on a date with me
Interesting. Do I just attract the bitches without even trying now? How did I go from a weird awkward guy to going on like 4-5 dates a month. Even when I talk about the same shit as I did before now its just interesting and quirky.
Is HRT really magic?
>mfw still awake 109281902819028901 hours later
>Tfw I know two people who want to have a threesome with me and this could be me one day
>Have phismosis my whole life
>Never truly stimulate the head of gt, do it through foreskin
>finally stretched it back enough to expose the lip behind the head
>Stimulating the head directly
Holy fuck, it's so sensitive I -literally- lost control
if I keep it like that and get SRS it'll be like I have an actual clit
>tfw discover ancestor with the title "the hon." in his name
It's a sign
18 months hrt, one round ffs. I'm trying really hard to pass and to fast track transition. i gave myself just over 2 years for successful transition but ffs round two might be delayed. So far transition cost me my job, my house, my life savings and my gf. Worth it or not?
Sorry if that was TMI but jesus christ
I'm actually glad that thing's never been exposed to the elements before, it seems like it's as sensitive as an actual clit would be
Maybe there is hope in SRS for having it feel like the real deal
>tfw spend all of my time outside of class in my dorm room and not talking to anyone
>tfw 4 years of college and maybe 1 person that could sorta be considered my friend
How do I talk to people ;_;
I am working on it. Finally started new fulltime job 3 weeks ago and moved out of my parents home last week. It's very humbling to lose pretty much everything and have to rebuild my life. I am lucky to have my parents support. Otherwise I might have ended up homeless.
I went to Dr. Mayer. I would like to go to Dr. Ousterhout next for type 3 forehead and jaw contouring when I have the resources for it. Dr. Mayer does not perform type 3 or do jawline work but he does excellent eye and nose work.
I have some hobbies, I could try to join a club or too for them I guess. I just get sorta nervous or feel like I don't belong at all when I go to a club's meetings. It's stupid and doesn't make sense but that's just how my mind works. I'm trying to get over it.
I could at least join the video game club and play some vidya with strangers.
Oh jeez C++ was the one I kinda skipped over in classes haha. I took an old curriculum course that had us use C to do little projects on a GBA instead of the class where they learned C++. I could probably pick it up quickly since I've used other OO languages before and I've used C a lot in classes. But I guess we could still be friends haha.
you're on anon so that'll be kinda hard but ill still be around if you're getting back sometime soon so just make a post and ill respond
well i learned java in high school so i suppose i could look into that too, im really just kinda messin around with it, but yessu we should still be friends, do you have a skype?
>we can't go and eat dumplings in the city and talk about web design
We've been over this though, we ended our relationship several weeks before I even saw anon, and it wasn't planned as that kind of meetup.
Thought you were going to ruse me didn't you, I'm onto you and your hoaxes f a m. Where's the kilo of coke
Why wont you tell us who anon is? Do you like her? What did you do? I need more details I have nothing else in life ;~;
>tfw lesbian filth just threw you against the shower wall
>she dove into your breasts
> she said your gushing
> I asked her if that means we had to stop
> tfw she didn't shop
>tfw her leg was pushing into you
>tfw she kept switching between each breast
damn.... lesbians... straight girls... I dunno
The 8:30 ones really surprised me, I was halfway between both of the spots when it happened and got to see them both :3 Only knew about and was there for the midnight ones desu.
>Tfw it took 2 hours to get back to the main road after the midnight show because the traffic was so jammed up to fuck.
Because she's an anon, and I don't really want to put her real name up for everyone to see, she doesn't trip for a reason. I like her a lot, she's fun to talk to, and she's cute. We casually flirted for awhile on here, but sort of assumed it was just playing around and that it would stay online.
We met up, hung out, played vidya and drank cider. We had a lot of fun so we did it two nights in a row and I may have been a bit too flirty and she may have pounced me to try and cut through the tension. ;~;
We didn't do anything more than kiss and cuddle, it was too soon after what happened with bexe.
B-but, I don't have all the money yet, Tito has it ;~;
Is there gonna be a problem?
Idk I have yet to find a local branch
I live like a five minute walk away from Glenelg. But we stayed till like 2am in the hills anyway so I got no traffic.
I took pictures of the half eight ones, but forgot my battery for the midnight ones.
Then I must travel across the world searching for one of these stores.
It may take me several years, but I promise I shall find it and bring all of you bfs or gfs.
>tfw no one will ever pounce you
I'm so alone.
What does this mean? When are you coming for my kneecaps? ;o;
>tfw 2 years fulltime as of today
>tfw didn't use makeup in over a year
feels pretty damn good
I need money for the quest
Postponing, I'll shelve the plan until further notice. Sorry girls.