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>>5551456 old shit
How to avoid squinting my eyes all the time?
I tend to naturally squint my eyes (especially in sunlight) and it makes my eyes look mannish. How can I stop?
If you're letting them dissolve under the tongue then yes ^^. Also I'm jealous cause had much better results when I was on cypro/estrofem but sprio/estradiol is just easier for me to get ><;;
At least you got boobs, also you're just a year in so give it time. You can try prog of course, doctors are a bit reluctant to give it but qhi should work.
No problem I didn't mean to cause the confusion, but lots of different drugs with similar names and different uses.. is almost asking for this lol. Idk what drug companies are thinking, probably just all on drugs. lol.
You can get ones that aren't completely opaque and they can still help a lot cause of UV filter~
okay, ill write them an email and see about it
also thats a nice niilo folder you got there
He's as retarded as I am and still keeps going, gives me strength
A friend of mine wants tim curry to die because of his past role in Rocky horror.
An employee got fired because she threw her trans hate on me and didn't noticed that the manager was overhearing what she was saying,
From what I've heard injections are best and seeing as they bypass the liver it would make sense. Cypro since I don't think there's an injectable AA but Cyproterone Acetate has progestins which is essentially similar to the light dose of progesterone, as well as it's a true AA as opposed to Spiro which is just a diuretic that works as one with enough concentration. You can get the same results of like 200mg of spiro with 25-50 of Cypro (brand name Siterone).
I'm not familiar if any injections are better than others though, I am too afraid of needles to have ever really considered it an option.
Attached is a picture of mine, I asked my doctor specifically to make sure it was micronized she said it was, but mine also doesn't have labeling indicating it. The inside is essentially a liquid though.
Do you see most mtfs detransitioning, being killed, or giving up in the longrun?
Is everyday for the rest of your life annoying to any of you?
Do my shoulders+neck and shit have a chance if I ever hrt or am I fucked?
Of estrofem? Fuck Sorry I thought you were thinking the prog. No Estrofem does not have liquid inside, it was like a mint without the minty taste. I guess I meant that it doesn't always have it on labeling. I'm not 100% on estrofem being sublingual but I am 100% that my ex has results from doing that method.
if i slept 3 hours one day then almost 8 the next am i gonna be ok
night!! sorry if i couldnt really help
how do u be a neet that long @_@
idk face can look a lot diff if u do eyebrows and stuff
so maybe not that manly
um when i shit all over male privilege
what abt me anon
do i have any filling...am i just an empty bread bowl...
do i lowkey have some sort of purpose or good intention...
or am i actually JUSt retarded
Anime, watching movies sometimes, shitposting and sleeping.
Been pretty busy with vidya lately though.
Stop going to school when 16 because of depression and dysphoria and then get stuck.
>tfw had so many chances to tell people I was gril but didn't
I've done pretty much everything I can for my face except makeup.
hi mooff, not much
what's stewin and brewin with you?
pleb edition https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkASFXeAafU
well i think it's better than you think honestly
haven't seen it so !
hope you feel more confident soon anon
and i'm sure you'll find something to do, can't be over
i almost started earlier too
dunno how i feel but its whatever if i can get to where i want anyways
udk me tho bor
tru that shit hurts
hi i know of u
whats going on with you amiga
we're talking abt how ugly we are and anons are hating on elanna..
>in celebration of my hormone thing I decided to do my hair in a ultra girly style
>got on metro
>SO MUCH ATTENTION
>guys giving me let's fuck looks, girls giving me jealous looks and old people giving me evil looks
I don't know if I want this much attention
All I did was let my hair over my eyes. I even have a neckbeard! They keep looking though D:
Two quick questions, I know very little about lgbt shit, so help me out here
1. Are MfF trannies attracted to men in most cases or how does that work?
2. Are there trannies who do not get genital surgery? How common is it to not get that?
Yfw femboys get banned for posting pics of their naked chests
no, most mtf's are attracted to women. they're just fetishists and not really trans. they just want people to treat them like the cute girls they see in their chinese cartoons.
most trannies don't get rid of their penis because deep down they know it's wonderful
Reassignment surgeries are expensive so it isnt all that uncommon for some girls to not get them. The amount of girls who dont wany to, though, is a minority i think.
Sexual attraction varies. I think the majority is bisexual, with lesbian following behind, which leaves hetero girls in the minority.
All that said, theres no one true census, so this varies wildly. Trans ppl arent exactly.known for raising their hands in a crowd to offer up experience either. Plenty just want to stealth the pain away.
Somewhat of a rhetorical question, where one fellow male asks another if he's admiring the aesthetics of your body definition, or weight lifting ability, when in reality it is actually quite obvious.
Anons are really really fucking mean assholes for literally no reason. They get off to being as bitchy as possible to everyone and shit on everything they can at the first oporutinity. Idk why its just how it is here
It's not "us all". Theres a few key posters who are unhappy enough with themselves that trashing others constantly is all they know to do.
The worst part is, if they came to me Nd said sorry, i would forgive them.
Don't be like that anon. You should smile more.
My psychologist said it was really normal when transitioning to miss the traits you lose as a male. I know this thread is like 90% anime posting and 'teehee I'm a cute girl' stuff and yeah I do that too. But I'm never actually seen this topic discussed here. Does anyone know how I feel? I really want to transition and am going to do it. I just really miss intimidation. How do you even deal with shithead neighbors and fuckwits without this, while being a girl.
I'm rarely ever bitchy you're exaggerating. And even when I am its only to ppl I don't like. The majority of the time I just post things about my day and only talk tontrips here that I know
Its stupid but i hate the feeling that anything i do aggressively or with anger is somehow projected onto me as a "male trait" and evidence that I'm not tru trans or something. I'm typically passive, but everyone gets angry. Even girls.
Elanna i feel like we are very alike.
I might be wrong tho.
That is weird why are these threads so popular with /pol/ I thought you hated us degenerate trannies and wanted nothing to do with us. Ur like the 3rd /pol/ person to come here often.
>out in a girl mode
>buy alcohol so get carded
>no reaction what so ever
i really look like a guy still huh.
There's a complex, storied history of lgbt personalities associating with the far right. To keep it short though, I think some of us have just learned what its like to live on the fringe of society wishing you could just be yourself without being hated or losing your job and stuff and it sucks. :/
I was never really manly. I mean I went to gym and got pretty strong when I was in repression. But I just feel like I'm losing my demeanor. I grew up in pretty shitty public housing so I guess it was something I learnt. My neighbors were just being loud methhead fuckheads tonight so I told them to fuck off and they all went to bed. And then I realized I shouldn't really be doing that and I won't be able to in the future. Idk, it's just that I'm seeing a psychologist who has dealt with a lot a trans stuff, and she said it is really normal to miss losing masculine traits when transitioning. I've just never seen it brought up here. I'm not sure if this is because of whole 'must keep cute online persona here' or if she is just wrong.
Honestly, I've gotten that impression that we are pretty alike in a lot of ways, at least from what I've seen of your posts. Idk, I don't normally like conflict either, but I can get pretty angry as well.
>living as a woman for 5 years
>not feeling as if you're a woman
Do people seriously do this?
Why would /pol/ have anything in common with us? You are all str8 cis (mostly) white males. That's like the polar opposite of mtfg. . . I think it may be some of you are secretly attracted to transgirls or repressed trannies overcompensating
It really sucked I really had to fight to get it back. And they still knee ineas male, they just didn't think that it was my ID
I think it's 95% that most western grils seem to be drugged up whores who want to "welcome refugees" all the way. Could be qt factor though. Every time there is a /polgbt/ thread it's about half DEGENERATE FUCKS WHERE IS ROPE and half ZERO FUCKS GIVEN.
what's everyone listening to rn?
Definitely not 95%, most girls are not happy with it here in yurop but of course they don't want to be labeled as racists either so they just ignore it and expect men to deal with it.
Both sides of /polgbt/, in general, share an equal disdain for these groups for different reasons.
/pol/ hates Muslims for generally being non-white and for being corrosive to western civilisation and because they don't like anyone but white men having sex with white women, consenting or not.
/pol/ hates radfems for also being corrosive to western society and for hating cis white men the most despite the fact that men of colour do a disproportionate amount of the rape.
/lgbt/, muslims, hmmm... do you really feel safe around them considering having people like us killed is codified in law in their theocracies?
/lgbt/ and TERFs, does it need to be spelled out? radfems can be astoundingly transphobic, and as much as they love progressive stacking, there's a lot of bad blood between them and gays because apparently having one's murder codified in law in parts of the world makes you more privileged than someone for whom this isn't the case, and stop misappropriating stronk black womyn's identities, and put the L before the G.
I imagine you don't hear about it here because anyone mentioning it would be called agp or not true trans or whatever.
In the end it's just something you have to deal with. People might not take you as seriously. It's a little less safe to be out alone at night. I'm not sure that there's a best of both worlds here.
What if I was lying
Yeah. I caught on that the LGBT would cut the T around a decade ago, so I can't see how anyone didn't see it coming. The gays basically just grabbed every marginalized sexuality they could to form a bigger base and push for marriage. Now that they have that, they don't really need to do anything for anyone else.
Have to think strategically boigrils.
For me I guess having someone that loves me helps a lot more too.
Oh yeah, I had this while eatin at an IHop
"Hello ma'am what would you like to drink?"
I was blushing because I don't think I honestly and truly pass but, I mean yeah it can most definitely sound like 'Man'
my emotions about that tbqh
i already have all the tits i want
there's crackers but i don't want them
every place i think about buying lunch, i don't want to eat there
everything i come up with to cook, i don't want to eat
everything prepared in the house, i don't want to eat
I used to think I wanted to be a femboy when I was a teen. Then I achieved peak femboy aesthetic and realised I still wasn't satisfied and was in fact really fucking depressed. Only wish I'd figured out as a teen so I could have self-medded before I could turn into an orc by my 20s.
i had a dream last night.
i had a monster twelve inch cock.
all my friends were pointing at it and telling me how impressive it was.
i was so embarrased.
i tried to explain to them that my penis isnt a part of who i am and that its size has no influence on how i feel about it or myself.
but they didnt understand.
i also had a dream where i could double jump like in a computer game.
everyone thought it was pretty cool.
Would /mtfg/ let Christofer Drew touch their oinky doinky ?
No they don't.
Anyone here with really screwed up side profile ?
I look like a mouse with a huge nose that got jaw punched inside of its head..
Like my jaw literally is like 10cm inverted comparee to rest of the face.
Its some kinda retardation i swear ._.
They've been extremely helpful. I'm by on them currently because I need mood stabilizer with it, but it was the difference between being able to leave the house and stick to a schedule vs. sleeping 12 hours and netflixing for 8 hours a day
>tfw you'll never just be a qt gay boy like your friend who detransitioned
>tfw you'll always have extreme body dysphoria and get very bothered when you get gendered male
But I can clean and you could bully me when you're angry
nope, although i find it interesting that you said you need a mood stabilizer on SSRIs because i felt much the same. i'm not naturally manic or even hypomanic, i don't normally impulse buy, i don't feel out of control, i don't have a reckless disregard for my wellbeing, but on SSRIs i do.
buspirone isn't even a mood stabilizer but it sure helped like one.
>being able to leave the house without anxiety attacks and do class work/keep up a diet/work outside of class on career goals 2-3 hours a day
>sitting in house binge eating and doing literally nothing all day
Yes, that is some improvement
>tfw no emoe bf to cuddle and listen to skramz with
how to deal with vicious, debilitating envy of other women inc. passing transwomen? I feel like dysphoria is making me a worse person and no matter what I do to distract myself it's not enough to divert my attention
I get umm female when I look like a manly man and umm boy on old pics.
You being forcibly tickled is my dream, though, ad. On those soft, ticklish soles of yours... Until you're screaming and begging for mercy...
I was made for this thread also I'm really enjoying this article lol
I got a new hair cut and make up can post pictures but I don't think it looks all that different how is everyone btw?
I'd lose super easily too
I'm ticklish all over and I'm easily overpowered xc
>tfw all I really want is a boyfriend to dick me and destroy me, but guys are scary and I end up only dating girls because it feels comfortable and safe
How do I get over my fear and start dating cisguys? I'm just afraid once we get in bed he'll change his mind and kick me out.
good luck with your orchi
i'm about to eat the slow-roast pork i made today.
it's so tender i tried slicing it but it just fell apart and shredded itself.
pray that the fat goes to my thighs and doesn't pulmonary embolism me :')
I love emos, we can wallow in our teenage sadness together. Fuck that made me realise... I won't be a teen for much longer. This summer I'll be 20.
>tfw already a granny
it's ok, i'll be 20 this winter!
email me :3
eating vegetables exclusively deprives you of the good things from meat
moderation and variety = balance, you can eat meat without turning into a masculine fatass
and no, i don't have empathy actually. diagnosed sociopath.
>get purged from school
>spend days trying to appeal
>finally get reinstated
>literally walk miles to get to class
>classes cancelled for today
Anon I don't want to lead you on.
I actually do have a gf and I can't do LDRs. That said I don't mind friends, I'm pretty lonely desu.
I've always hated skype but I think I'll start using it again. Still want me to email you?
what a good read. ty.
i have debilitating envy of evreyone. feeling infrerior all the time makes dayto day things difficult. i get jealous of my fantasies and they make me feel like shit because i cant actually live them out. i would be able to die paecefuly knowing i made agt least one person happyy but i canteven do that.
I said emo, not hot. I'm actually pretty fucking ugly lol.
Someone please hugbox me and tell me everything is going to be okay.
It's going to be okay
I dont know exactly what you're upset about so I can't actually comfort you, but we're all here for you okay?
it's okay tho I can be your e-gf. Hope you don't mind being gay.
I was changing my shirt because it was sweaty. Whats ur excuse?
This sounds like a job for...HOUSE
*massive attack plays*
"Well of all the things it could be, its none of them"
"House this person is terminal. Its over. We need to tell them."
"Its over when I'm a genius."
"You have lupus."
*house bursts in the room*
"You have a curable infection caused by leg eating parasites living in your brain that disguise themselves as lupus."
*moody piano outro*
Except when there are a legitimate questions, but hey, at least drama posting gets results.
But I don't know.
Long hair, flat bangs and glasses make me look manly ;-;
Does he know how horrendously non-passable you are irl?
What do you folks think? I tried to make it reasonable, not baity.
I wonder if I could pass with a voice and clothes.
The angle on those full photoshots arent how other people see her, the lense is pointing towards the ground even though its on the same level with her chest.
It should be aimed directly straight forward or tilted up by like 20 degrees?
That makes your face look long and the lower body seem smaller.
Just like you see people here taking photos directly above their head to make their faces appear smaller and more cute.
So basically what she does there is to make herself look hon even though she probs doesnt look that bad.
I started hrt right after my 20th birthday and i'm 23 in april.
Dunno how masculine I am, really no idea what I look like but my friend said she wouldn't date boy me because too faggy lel.
What do you girls do for a living? Cook here and full time student (at night)
I hope so, my goal is to pass before summer.
Hopefully I don't make people uncomfortable at least.
>Hopefully i don't make people uncomfortable at least.
Haha i get that i worry about that once i try passing i'm just going to make people uncomfortable as bad hons make me uncomfortable.
bby i'd date the qt girl (you) are now at anytime
I know that feel went to the salon today maybe this style might work. No make up so I look like shit keep that in mind
I can't believe that one anon sucked me into posting my screen to give up my trip, though I am not embarrassed because it was funny at the time to use that word as my trip. So here is proof of me so that no one trolls pretending to be me.
19 yo, 182 cm, 145 pound, 32 cm hips, 33 hips, 35 cm chest
How fucked am I on a scale from completely fucked to just kill yourself senpai??
The gen was nice for a while and we could talk about femmy boys and dysphoria without drama.
Now it's gonna get ruined again.
Fuck this gay province desu
depending on the context
a) unpassing trans
which comes from
b) upper middle aged transwomen who typically had masculine jobs (and have been weathered by them) and do not have much awareness of how women genuinely act (and stick out)