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You're all beautiful and gunna make it!
>tfw you mix up what day it is
truly i am losing touch with reality ;~;
Yesterday I thought it was friday and I was really confused.
Anon-san am I not on the list because you don't want to hear anyone call Mlme ugly?
>fire up skype again to add some chaser
>bunch of trips in my friends list I don't ever talk to
>do a purge
>get reminded how I don't like skype at all
I wish the same. Steam is bro/sis tier.
Praise Lord Gaben.
YOU GET A VAG!
YOU GET A VAG!
EVERYBODY GETS A VAG!
If I win the lotto tonight I am buying full body everything but only for the people who were nice to me so I guess that would be sheen and belly rub anon. If angie begs for it I will buy her srs.
Well you got the second part right but as for the first, I don't get how you think I've even done that, I have given you suggestions on how you can fix yourself, that's far from hugboxing.
Personality ain't shit without looks. No one wants to be around a non passing tranny and no one here can refute that fact. All I would do is creep out normal people if I went full time and put myself at risk for violence.
Everyone regularly refutes that for you Kayla. You're delusional and just looking for more reasons to stall out any progress you could make. How long have you been in these threads? How many trips have you seen come and go and pass you right on by as you continue to make excuses?
But i'm like more masculine than my dad after 3 years of hrt.
>tfw people give you looks because you're so extremely masculine and scary
Did you know what it was called before I told you?
Bullshit, I will be poor forever because here in americastan its impossible to get a leg up economically unless you're born into it.
All the trips that transitioned were spoiled little euro cunts with free health care or mommy and daddy paid for it. None of them got it from their own "work."
i know its taboo but id really rather be with a tranny than a cis dude or chick
just feel like i wouldnt be able to actually love cissies
I thought there were fat injections but i didn't know it was the same thing as brazilian butt lift. i also have been a little iffy about it because i'm worried they'll be droopy or something but idk i really hate my figure.
I can't move forward. How can I move forward with out fat stacks of money? Nothing is free in this country, especially healthcare.
Is it not the truth? People who get free everything because of being European is fucked. Try being an american and having to sell your soul just to afford cough syrup.
By doing it on your own like you seem to say everyone else should be doing, yet never do yourself. You sit there yelling about no one ever giving you handouts while you complain about any advantages others might have and act completely blind to your own.
i worked shitty jobs for 4 years just to get my transition started, some minor surgery in, and i'm supported, loved and i pass according to people. the euro system is a paternalistic failure unless you're rich. i'm jealous of americans with informed consent and planned parenthood giving easy access mones
you only have yourself to blame
>just to afford cough syrup
hey, now. i'm an americunt and i steal all of my delysm and robitussin.
Would you prefer to live a year fulltime without access to hormones like the NHS you seem to envy so much forces to be done? You have so much given to you, you've got a bike you can sell, you are supported, you have opportunities that many people do not have.
l-lewdanon p-pls...i'm running out of blushing anime girls
>tfw no trans friend to drag you out in grilmode when you're too spooked and too manly to do it yourself
If you're going boymode, comb it out and use some product? You were applying to a conservative job you're already gonna have a hard time but the goal is to try to show you're fitting for their work environment.
You did say you had you carrer plan laid out when you were only 16 right? Well to me that seems like you had a upper middle class mother and father and a very good healthy family life. I mean how else could you get into college without a perfect family life? So in a way, yeah you were spoiled. I lived in a studio apartment with one parent till I was 10. Then my step dad beat me with the belt any time he got drunk, which was every time he came home from work. I was forced to be home schooled so my mother had a free worker she didn't have to pay taxes on. I was used and abused so I couldn't ever think of my future like you got to.
Same goes for all of you, face it, your all more privileged than me and that's why you are financially okay and pass.
I'm yuro scum tho.
>tfw no one to give you the confidence you need because you only get hugboxed the few times you've gotten feedback
>tfw you go outside like twice a month and it's to see your shrink and go get neet bux
>tfw haven't recieved feedback on anything but 3 years old pics
>tfw only get hugboxed
Holy shit. Anyone have that pic of Korra before hrt? You know the one where he looked like a good looking black guy? Im not one to be mean but lets call a spade a spade and just say some people shouldnt bother transitioning because hrt isnt going to magically make you look like a girl. Should have just dated a tranny instead. What a waste.
I haven't misgendered anyone m8. Anons literally don't count becuase there is absolutely no way to tell who you're talking to or their gender if they're nameless and faceless.
And before you say >mtfg
There are quite a few males that post here. (Or ppl that use male pronouns) for the record I use the words man and dude as gender neutral. Literally the only ppl I gender male here is rawr and booger.
Someone saying they were hyper masculine? Idk who each anon is so I assumed they were male and made a joke rontry and lighten the mood. Again, I have no idea what an anon identified as, and that post (to me) suggested male.
Its not even a huge deal. Ppl make mistakes
you're more privileged than me as im from a low income background, living an a hick backwater, you were crossdressing and doing fag stuff online for jokes and attention while i was working in a shellfish cannery and sweating my ass off so i could maybe spend half my life being ok with myself before i drop dead in my mid fifties from congenital heart defects
you big dick bike riding sissy
Right here. Also keep in mind Im barely even on hrt. I'm only a month into it so obviously there wont be any external changes yet. That pic is just me in boymode before leaving for work.
I am a passing stealth trans girl who is in your words, born into money. My parents are paying for tuition and they deposit 3k into my bank account for expenses every month. I expect trust fund payouts once I turn 21. Srs is covered in my state which I'm in the waitlist for and I don't need any other surgeries. I still want to kill myself simple because I am trans.
Someone talking like that is quite blatantly someone who experiences dysphoria, which i'm beginning to think you don't since you don't seem to understand it, and is expressing disdain about their masculine features.
>My parents are paying for tuition and they deposit 3k into my bank account for expenses every month
I want to turn your face into red hamburger with my fists but I am not the violent type so I will just cut myself a little now
I wanted to share that I was at a hot spring resort with my parents so I had to grow hair on all my body again, after 3 years because nobody knows Im a faggot.
The worst is that one day I was feeling very dysphoric and needed to take a shit, and for some reason my ass' hairs got all messed up with shit so I had to take a shower. I fucking hate hair.
>im not the viloent type
WHY IS EVERYONE HERE ALWAYS SUCH DELUSIONAL FUCKING LIARS
youre all insane . if someone against trans people ever needed a case for proving this is a mental illness all they would have to do is browse this place for a day.
because the people who tell you to are shitposters on a Laotian Pantomime Production E-Board.
You need to see yourself and your potential rather than reading shitposts telling you to kill yourself or that you're fucked, just give it a try and stick to it for more than a month
You got the wrong person. I'm in Canada,
My dad died when I was five and my moms been raising me (and my sister- who will barely talk to me today) single since. I've grown up in low income housing my whole life. I've also received abuse, albiet from non family members. I dropped out of highschool because of which- I finished it online.
I didn't get any handouts, when I started transitioning I started factory jobs, getting plenty of my own transphobic harrassment.and I still work in a seafood factory roughly 10-12 hours a day deshelling lobster and clams and other shellfish. Really fun job for a vegan.
I pay my own bills, rent, meds (about $200 for 3 months) laser, etc, I don't get those covered. I would love to have extra cash to put away for my surgery or to get my own place in city so I can get a better job, but at the moment i'm stuck living in a log cabin with pet chickens. So fuck you for imaging your the only one with sob stories. A number of us put a lot of effort as well and bitch a lot less doing so.
My father worked hard to get to where he is. I am lucky to not worry about money, but I am still suicidal because I am trans. That was my point. Every guy i talk to and eventually tell I'm trans treats me like I have aids.
I would pretend I'm a cis girl if I wanted to lie about my life.
>So fuck you for imaging your the only one with sob stories
You pass so your sob stories are meaningless. Everyone who passes fundamentally beat the game of being trans and basically won the genetic lottery. Since you won the lotto, you are lucky, the opposite of me who is unlucky.
Pretty much anything that holds a tuck. Add a skirt if you're worried. Personally I'll be picking up some boy shorts bottoms this year for good coverage plus tucking I can trust.
Make sure you wear something under the board shorts. My gt was super obvious last time I went swimming with only the shorts on.
>tfw naturally strong hyper masculine body and could become a body builder with my shoulders and height but dysphoria and shit
Wat? I've never been called that outside of this post. And yes I am poor, right now. But I'm about to finish school this year and I'm going to have a wellnpaying job once i do. I'll get srs and ffs after saving up for a little while and taking out a loan or two.
Srs and FFS isn't as unreachable as this gem would have u believe. Angie afforded ffs on a min wage job by saving up for 3 years.
>Every guy i talk to and eventually tell I'm trans treats me like I have aids.
Oh boo fucking who, TRY BEING ME FOR A SECOND, I can't even trick people into thinking I am a girl. If you PASS then your problems don't fucking matter, go complaing to cis people since you look like one.
It pisses me off when passers think they even know what pain is. Try having all your pain and then add on the fact that NO ONE will ever see you as a girl, none of you passers will ever know the feeling of not passing, of being like me.
I like this one
But you are not getting it. If you pass, then your problems are just like any other cis girl problem. You don't have the Double Damage being unpassing does to your life? Don't you fucking get that? Unpassables like me have the extra burden of not even being seen as human let alone female so passers get to have everything I can't, someone to call them female, that's all I want and I will never have it.
so i didn't go swimming today because i didn't want to swim topless again, but i don't have an actually skintight shirt and i can't go around wearing a women's top right now
any reasonable advice will be looked at
Those passers probably do know what it's like to not pass and be treated like scum as they didn't always pass.
They probably ended up passing because they actually tried improving themselves rather than be a massive cunt to those who could.
>If you pass then your problems don't fucking matter
What a fucking awful thing to say? Many passers do legitimately have problems, why does the fact that they pass change that?
Seriously, shut the fuck up, get your head out of your ass and fuck off with your persecution complex. Go improve yourself rather than lash out at people on the Internet
You kept talking about how money can solve all your problems, so I'm telling you - not necessarily. I might be doing all the right things and pass or whatever but it doesn't take away the innate curse of being trans.
I don't understand why you're attacking others for sharing stories or experiences or why you buy into anonymous shitposts you can be so much better than this Kayla, I understand you're upset about your present living arrangement and your previous circumstances (it's not too different to my own upbringing) it's no reason to get angry with people who aren't in that place anymore or never were.
>inb4 anonymous poster says "how new are you"
>tfw transitioned after your 20th birthday
Why did I even bother trying?
Ok doctor. Please tell me how and why I'm not trans. I'm listening. Pls tell me about the dysphoria I imagined all mynkife or the suicidal depression I dreamed up.
Go on. I'll wait. Pls back your claims up with evidence soni can refute it too.
>You've only been on HRT a year right?
People here are going full time at 3 months on hrt. Hrt will never do anything to me. I am fucked beyond repair. I can't even dress fem because my parents wont allow it.
>tfw ur animes lied to you and told you you'd be qt anyway
2 nukes weren't enough
>Those passers probably do know what it's like to not pass and be treated like scum as they didn't always pass.
The people I am ragging on went full time at 3 months or earlier on hrt, they didn't know what its like to be me and they never will all because they pass 100 percent of the time. Anyone who passes all the time has no right to complain here at all, go cry to face book about typical girl problems but leave the crippling pain of dealing with facial hair, or having huge shoulders to mtfg.
Will trannies ever stop raping themselves? Rape is not okay, bros.
>tfw always got hugboxed so got delusional and thought you could pass eventually
>tfw still get hugboxed even though man beast
>Even if she wins the power ball tonight and becomes a half-billionaire she won't be able to be happy.
Um, the first thing I would do is offer any srs surgeon a full million dollars to drop what they are doing and give me the best srs they ever had right away, then I would do the same with the worlds best ffs surgeon. I would have so many fucking operations in the coming months I would be able to go full time by September. That is only if I won the lotto.
>do Butt injection yesterday
>butt and lower left leg start hurting a bit and still hurt
Am I going to die?
Philosophy? It sounds interesting, but I can definately see it having some hard points.
er. I don't think so. probably not. I called you selfish the other day for stating your opinion, though it was different from my own. for that i'll aplogise.
we really ought to go have dinner together.
>I'm fulltime since 9 months and haven't been misgendered since a year
you must have been economically stable enough to do so. I am stuck with my evil parents that wont even let me practice my voice here, I can't get a job as a trans because no one hires us. You got insanely lucky so don't fucking blow that off. You have the economic stability to live full time and I don't.
2 and a half months actually. dressing like a dyke and people thinking you're ftm helps
i didn't pass but i didn't get beaten up or stared at because you need a subtle androgynous wardrobe and ramp it up as you get more comfortable in presenting.
fashion student ----> femboy ------> sorta butch girl --------> basic ------> superfem
going out dressed as a 1950s housewife is gonna make you feel extra conspicuous and uncomfortable. fulltime doesn't have to be trauma, it can be baby steps. femininity is expressed in different ways and Audrey Dykeplaid is just as much a woman as Belle Bitchtits, if you're already feeling nervous and uncomfortable, people are gonna look, they're gonna stare, and they're gonna clock you.
Seems like a stretch to say they went full time at 3 months and passed flawlessly.
>the crippling pain of dealing with facial hair or having huge shoulders
Nearly everyone here has had facial hair and your shoulders are smaller than some hear who pass.
>No right to complain
I could twist some bullshit argument in that same why, let me try the same thing
"Kayla doesn't deserve the right to complain because of her cuntyness"
There we go, an argument that doesn't use logic
>I can't get a job as a trans because no one hires us
Where are those posts of yours about refusing to even get one? Rejecting the ones that are available? Basically wanting a position of power to be handed to you? Being too good for the jobs that are available to you?
It's not a case of people not hiring transpeople, it's a case of you being a fuck that doesn't even want to be hired.
>if you're already feeling nervous and uncomfortable, people are gonna look, they're gonna stare, and they're gonna clock you.
Well that does make sense. The first time i went out I was in heels and full regalia and I was sweating fucking bullets.
Yes I have, its just what I am applying for is so competitive.
Yeah but you were probably not as hyper masculine as me.
Everything about me is masculine, even my eyes and people have confirmed it.
You should report him for being underage like I did previously but it looks like nobody cares unless they literally post his porn here as a proof but wow, he's underage and that's illegal! Ooh poor baby! Someone reposted his illegal whore pictures that are featured on every crossdressing blog ever on 4chins. How horrible!
HEY EVERYONE KIWI FELL ASLEEP ON SKYPE
and I can't wait to see the final cut of the film angie
>tfw only been gendered female by hugboxers while getting levels checked
t-thank you anon, I can finally rest *dies*
I am sure he still has a couple of tricks up his sleeves to make him not defenseless and actually a pretty terrifying rape tyrant. Don't underestimate him.
but at least you are good at programming now
>My life plan is killing myself because too masculine to live.
take me with you, lets drive a car into the grand canyon
Horrible, they interviewer gave me a scolding about men shouldn't have long hair. I had it slicked back and in a pony tail but he called me a hippy and made me leave his office, I want to die.
Wouldn't YOU be way happier if you transitioned at 15 instead of 28 or whatever like everyone here? It seems to me like you are just bitter and jealous that you didn't, f a m.
Then go for a job that's not super masculinity, or super competitive. Do the basic no skill job like everyone else does to start off and when you establish yourself then go for other things.
Fuck, just go for a basic retail job. You pretty much don't need any skills. So for someone with so many skills such as yourself it should be a breeze.
You say you are trying really hard, and you might be, but your trying in the wrong areas.
>mfw kayla will never get a real job
>mfw kayla will end up on craigslist sucking dicks for $10
>be gay faggot
>come here to see what's going on
Wow... Some of you are so spiteful and bitter, it's really weird how jaded some of you have clearly become. I am sincerely glad i'm not a tranny, but if it's ever on the table i'm certainly not coming here.
>Tfw when I was unemployed I had one guy offer to pay me to blow him and I was poor enough to consider it at the time
I didn't actually do it but is that close enough to make me trutrans or am I still stuck in agp hell
You'd think friends I met in video games wouldn't be assholes about meeting someone online. But...
No, you took a million drafting and solid modeling courses to have no job.
Do the retail job while looking for a better one in the meantime instead of sitting on your ass complaining about having no means.
You are choosing to wallow in your misery because your not willing to make necessary steps/sacrifices.
She promised if I ever got an interview she would drive me because I get nervous when I am in new situations. Why do you think I had Melly drive me to my first hrt appointment? I am the kind of person who needs a chauffeur.
that's all I am afraid of
I am sick of making hard choices, I want the easy way in life. I don't want to fight for money like everyone else does. That's why I deserve to win the lotto.
"t4m, 30yo. Slutty crossdressing babe for a big strong man, preferably black ;). I want to be his submissive housewife all night long. pic attached is miss cock. hope you'll get to meet her soon!! "
woah, my song was on the beatport electro house top 10 earlier and now it's gone off the store completely
i wonder what happened
You can screencap this, I live in Edmonton, I exist, and we absolutely met up over new years.
Too bad suck it up buttercup
not everyone does get handouts.
Some have to fight and claw and scrape their way just to be mediocre
but one day you can be hokage if you put the effort, even if everyone starts out laughing at you
it would get the chip off your shoulder and show you how the real world works
>Would you eat food served by Kayla?
yes but I would get upset if she called me hon at all because she knows better
>can I get you anything HON?
>j-just some waffles and a coffee pls
>okay, got it, be right out with that HON
>You'd think friends I met in video games wouldn't be assholes
Why would anyone think this
it sold 100 copies in one day according to the daily stats, maybe someone artificially bought 100 copies or something?
What was the logic of building Edmonton here?
It's in the middle of fucking nowhere, hardly the place to put a Province's capital city.
At least in Australia our cities are in normal places.
>i need a chauffeur because i am accustomed to a much higher standard of living than you plebs
You deserve to stay exactly where you are, unhappy, aging, and digging yourself deeper into despair, alienation and poverty.
'slave mentality' 'chauffeurs', you're disgusting, you use people, anyone that does better than you is undeserving and must be torn down, anyone that works hard is contemptible, anyone that was worse off than you and got out was lucky or not actually worse off than you, or cheated.
you deserve to be alone and unhappy. how does it feel that those support group hons that you despise so much have got more love, more friends, more ethics, more spine and more of a normal life as a person, never mind a woman, than you'll ever have.
if you won the lotto you'd only die from anesthesia complications during your first surgery or get ripped off by a smooth talking swindler or a pyramid investment scheme, or waste it on bikes and die in a crash hitting concrete at 120mph because obviously when you're rich life is great and nothing can touch you
you make me sick
I just do it and not focus on appearance. I mean, me looking like a man is only temporary, so every day I'm alive is another step closer to my goal of passing. So yeah I'm happy most days since I don't really care about oumthwrs opinon of my looks since that isn't what validates me.
Gaving an accepting Church mostly. It really helped with my repression and depression. I also have alot of gr8 friends that don't misgender me and use my name. Its really uplifting to know that I get to go to heaven and hang out with Jesus when I die regardless of how bad/good things go in life.
> I am sick of making hard choices, I want the easy way in life. I don't want to fight for money like everyone else does. That's why I deserve to win the lotto.