>3 years into transition
>happier than ever in life, never suicidal even during the toughest times, only fashy ideological concerns (pic related)
>"trans" people keep an heroing and give transitioning a bad public image
>can't speak out against it directly because my transsexuality is a private matter
If you're just confused, take sex-confirming hormones instead of transitioning and maybe seek out therapy. Don't fall for Marxist anti-traditional propaganda and become a detriment to yourself and society at large.
If you're absolutely sure that you *must* transition then go for it, knowing that your condition does not limit you to leftism and depression and suicide. You might just become the beloved experimental master race waifu of a high IQ edgelord someday :^)
It's a sad reality we have to face but child transitioning is becoming more rampant and it's going to destroy more lives than it helps. Cleverly designed to be anti masculine and a cause of birthrate decline... I just read this morning about a toddler who is transitioning on the basis of his happiness from wearing a ponytail. Foreseeable an hero.
>if don't life in a way that pleases me, it's because you have fallen for the
>Marxist anti-traditional propaganda
How come some people are confortable to be so simplistic as to just pack everyone into their political views?
It's not simple at all and declaring a Marxist influence isn't about what I like or don't like. There is a noticeable push for trans overrepresentation and even a trend of transitioning young children. I'm describing people who shouldn't transition but are told to do so, then become the self hating demographic that will probably an hero. Not only does that decline birthrates and further destroy tradition, it also publicly identifies transsexuality as anti-traditional and miserable, undesirable.
Danke anon! 卐 ^-^ 卐
How does children transitioning early increase suicide rates? In 10-20 years, however long it takes for new studies to come out, I'm sure you'll find that transgender suicide rates are at an all-time low, and the rate of trans to cis kids will have leveled out, both stats for kids born in 2003 or later.
Exactly! Marxists see transsexualism not as a medical problem requiring treatment but as a choice; a weapon. They just want to tear apart western society and attacking the family structure is the best method of doing so. It's infuriating, I don't want these people pretending to be like me and acting like I exist to weaken our society. I want to reinforce tradition not tear it down.
The Reimer story is a fantastic example of biology and identity conflicting at a deep level that a child can't fully grasp.
While I agree that transitioning early produces the best results, seeing things where they don't exist ("he wore a ponytail and liked it, let's block his puberty") can be devastating once an individual grows up. The notion that we choose our sex and should be raised gender neutral is insidious. We are born into a condition, and whether we should change it requires heavy decision making. There is no blank slate from which to choose, and when you do choose to change your sex you currently lose the ability to procreate. Biology wins out no matter what.
Ja mein Schwester! I feel exactly the way you do. They weaponize our condition and destroy us in the process. We feel like that ideology is our only possibility and are drawn into the culture war that threatens to tear down everything we are working for. How can there be transsexuality in a gender neutral world? We must prove ourselves worthy of upholding tradition where we can and demonstrate to the world that we aren't a detriment.
Faggot Marxist here.
Please stop confusing our philosophy with memeing teenage leftist retards so choke full of false consciousness it isn't funny. There is zero reason for Marxists to want transsexualism. We just want the lower and middle classes to realize the tyranny of the rich. Making bois take monea and cut off their dick doesn't help us further any of our goals.
P-please stop giving my senpai a bad name., and please carry on shitting on retarded leftists who understand nothing.
Marx is interesting philosophically, I'll give you that. But Marxism is another story, and the internationalism and acultural trend inherent in its practice has produced the multicultural degenerate nightmare we are living out today.
Culture and blood are tied up inextricably, so to truly share in a monolithic culture I think a certain amount of kinship is necessary. Needless to say I support your cultural nationalism as well!
Cute, they'd have killed you on sight,you know that right?
>I'm describing people who shouldn't transition but are told to do so, then become the self hating demographic that will probably an hero. Not only does that decline birthrates and further destroy tradition, it also publicly identifies transsexuality as anti-traditional and miserable, undesirable.
Pic. Mothercfucking. Related.
>Marxists see transsexualism not as a medical problem requiring treatment but as a choice; a weapon.
You're just using "marxist" to mean "anyone I dislike" more or less. In reality the kind of view you describe would starkly contrast the materialism marxism bases itself on.
True. Neither academic nor ideological marxism is very concerned with gender identity. Though what was said about tearing down traditional families is partly true, as Engels expressed in The Origin of the Family, Private Property and the State.
>the internationalism and acultural trend inherent in its practice has produced the multicultural degenerate nightmare we are living out today.
I personally view the bullshit propagated by the Authoritarian Left, or as you put it "Marxism", to be an equal enemy to a true Marxist. All of this is nothing beyond ways to keep people from seeing that classism is the true divider and evil in soviety. The Bourgeoisie give these people phantoms to chase to keep them unaware. If anything, these things are testimate to how the ruling classes are able to maintain control.
Marxism was coopted by capitalism long ago if you even believe it wasn't just an extension of liberalism in the first place. The internationalist cause is used to bolster the forces you want to revolt against. National Socialism recognized this and brought true socialism to Germany.
Danke mein Schwester, same to you!
Ja, I would have probably been put in prison actually. That or a camp. But I don't belong to that time, and I believe if I did I wouldn't have been transsexual. In this age I am, and I can attempt to prove my worth right now by fighting the internationalist threat and raising children to build up a wonderful society much like the one that flittered in and out of existence like a dream 70 years ago. And btw I will never an hero.
That's fine! I just admire National Socialism a lot. Fascism isn't too bad either. It would be most agreeable in America; NatSoc wouldn't work well here.
I'm American too actually, I believe similarly. Don't get me wrong I have a lot of respect for what Germany accomplished but I think a strategy based more around a unified culture than a unified bloodline would be the best option. Admittedly, I have more research to do on the subject though. You probably know more about this than I do.
Aw, danke c:
Ja! I totally agree. I'm Germanic and I see why NatSoc was necessary. The appeal is very strong for me because I am naturally drawn to it. But America is not wholly Germanic. Wouldn't make sense. Would go into more detail but this thread is supposed to be about an heroing trannies who would be better off as men.
Jewish plot to ruin Christmas? Likely :^)
>Can't speak out against it directly because my transsexuality is a private matter
I could never stealth OP, Ive seen what it does to people down the road. I will say though that even being openly trans whenever I talk about transgendered issues most people groan and think to themselves, "Here we go, again." We have no valid opinion on the issue on transgenderism because we're baised I guess, so we have to rely on cispeople to fight for us.
Yeah, its retarded.
Good job on not being suicidal though, I got suicidal during transition when I had no friends or support, I guess thats why they want you to see a therapist through transition.
And national socialism is really common among transfolk before they transition. The most helpful man who ever talked to me about my transition was a neo-nazi like me pre-HRT, ended up having a daughter in an effort to preserve his race, then divorced the husband before transitioning himself(FtM).
Tons of people from /pol/ end up shitposting here before transitioning too, for presumably the same reasons.
You know that the Americans of that time would have killed OP on sight, too, right? You're aware Eugenics came from the United States, right?
In the modern day, /pol/ will begrudgingly accept you if you pass well enough.
That's really neat meine Schwester. Sorry about the suicidal times, I can sympathize at the very least. I'm glad you recognize the current political climate in which we take part--certainly receptive to accepting our help, if not our inclusion.
Stealth is only bad if you keep it that way when you really get to know someone and don't inform them of your past imo.
Thats entirely fair, I have a lot of ambivalent feels about this kind of shit now. On one hand I still love my race and want to preserve it, on the other hand Ive been finding a lot of acceptance among groups hated by our kind. I dont want my new friends to get killed, but at the same time I don't want to be alone when the race war comes.
Being the submissive housewife to a race warrior is also really romantic and alluring as a fantasy though.
In that case you have to decide what matters more: individuals or the collective which produces them.
Ja, I'd say that's definitely living the dream.
I'd almost always normally go to the individual, I don't have a lot of friends irl that are like us anymore. Im terrified of getting beaten if I did expose myself irl to people like us again. I still am realistically, I don't feel like Ill ever be able to be part of that kind of stuff again because of it. I know that its more acceptable if you pass and are attractive but it only takes one big pissed off dude to kick my teeth in.
Do you still associate with those kind of people irl?
It's also easier if you're accounted for, if you know what I mean. I understand your concerns. I've met a few people irl! You just have to be wise about it. Higher IQ means less of a chance to get beaten up.
I've been following the back and forth between you two, and I have to say it's fascinating that there seems to be a non-insane way to be a national socialist tranny. I'm also trans, and even before I started doing anything about it I found that the people I got along with tended to be insane liberal people, so I figured I just had to be a not insane liberal. Honestly I don't think I really fit either categories, I like socialism, but I don't really like either of the political extremes of it. Is there really no way to be a centrist socialist? Is nationalism necessary? I look at places with diverse demographics and I have to admit it seems to rarely work out for any significant period of time. At the same time I feel like humans in general tend to have more meaningful similarities than differences.
You could go centrist. But being far right doesn't mean you abhor all other cultures; on the contrary, it's actually the only way to not be "appropriative" and keep what is foreign at a distance. The world is a more lively place when you live and move and have your being in a monolithic culture but can appreciate those that aren't your own from afar.
Ja meine Schwester, I felt the same way when I first started transitioning. I was a rabid Marxist until I realized just how deathly and antithetical it was to my personality and thoughts. Post-Marxism I can really see how a sort of leftist hive mind has developed among us due to transsexuality being thrown into that category almost universally.
>can't speak out against it directly
You specifically shouldn't because we dont want people to think we're mentally ill like yourself.
The fascists would have shot you for being trans, don't forget that. Hopefully you come out of the edgy phase in one piece.
I'm not mentally ill. I can say that with confidence. Dysphoria has been cured c:
You keep saying they would have "shot me on sight." Ja, that was different back then. The world situation today is not the same.
It's not edgy to desire a secure future for your progeny no matter what.
That makes a lot of sense, and I think I might need to reevaluate a few of my core political beliefs.
On a completely unrelated note, I feel like this mindset is much more conducive to eventual manned exploration of space than any similar international endeavors would be.
Good, good! I'm constantly reevaluating my own, but from my youth I believe I was always destined for traditionalism in some form.
I'm sure we will achieve galactic domination once we realize again our limitless potential as a people.
There are medical risks involved either way senpai, so if you're confused and you still mess up with an excuse like this in mind I guess it's suicide or DOTR for you ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
You're alright OP. Leftists disgust me, and I support traditional gender roles. But I have no problem viewing transsexuals as women and treating them as one, provided they adhere to female gender roles rather than being some disgusting hairy genderfluid beast.
Danke Bruder! I believe we are a fraction of a fraction of the population and can reinforce traditional roles by way of example. Defiant gender warrior lefties whose intent is to destroy not only eternal essential roles but themselves in the process, they can hang.
>fetishising nazis and ideologies that would see you killed off
Yeah you're not really in a place to talk shit about anyone.
>"trans" people keep an heroing and give transitioning a bad public image
Well based on the actual stats and not your feels post transition they're about as likely to kill themselves as the general population, so it's more an issue of access and support for transition.
>take sex-confirming hormones instead of transitioning
Oh I see, I thought you were just really stupid, would make sense with the whole nazi thing, but this is just shitty trolling.
Maybe try something that doesn't rely on idiots acting on whatever bullshit you say without actually looking up any of the statistics or science or talking to a doctor.
God, /pol/ is just getting shittier and shittier with their troll threads, they're like the mascot of failing desperate degeneration.
There is a noticeable push for trans overrepresentation and even a trend of transitioning young children.
Noticible to your over-sensetive feels-driven worldview but not to the actual stats and facts, oh I wonder why that could be, must be the big bad conspiracy hiding DA TRUF :^)
The reimer story serves to prove inset gender identity from an early age which supports transsexuals and transition as legitimate.
You're either trying to bait by purposefully drawing convoluted conclusions or you're extremely confused about the details of the case and how it relates to trannies and tranny kids.
>You keep saying they would have "shot me on sight."
>that was different back then
>The world situation today is not the same
LOL this is fucking hilarious, are you really deluding yourself so much that you pretend that if fascists/neo-nazi were in power and able to they wouldn't try to exterminate all "degenerates" like trannies?
Do you just hide every post and thread on /pol/ of people adamantly stating the desire/need to have trannies either institutionalized or exterminated so you can desperately cling to your fairy-tail fantasy where you're "one of the GOOD degenerates" and so they'll accept you and give you a qt nazi bf while persecuting all the people you don't like?
Assuming this whole thread isn't just bait then there is a reason why you need to be stealth and you KNOW it somewhere deep beneath all your self-deluding lies, you would NOT be accepted.
Watching bbc cuck porn feels so much better if you're under the oppression that the jews are trying to make white men weakier and brain wash them into worshipping the bbc and let the bbc cuck them of their wives and daughters. BBC porn wouldn't be as fun to and addictive to some people if there wasn't some kind of kinky back story behind why they spent their days thinking about better endowed men fucking their women.
They're sexualizing their fear, which is kinda fucked up and hot at the same time... or just sad, I don't know.
>I'm describing people who shouldn't transition but are told to do so,
But you did exactly that by telling people to take cross-sex hormones without anything to back up the physical transition. That kind of leftist approach to transition, mucking up your body for a self-diagnosed disorder is how you end up with all these mentally unstable "trans girls" and places like mtfg.
I'm >>5552936 and didn't link the thread anyplace but nice paranoid persecution complex, everyone who doesn't agree with you must be an agent of "the conspiracy" and it couldn't possibly have anything to do with posts bumping threads.
Also what other tranny board or are you talking about some reddit bullshit as a "board"? And why do you hang out there to see what is and isn't posted?
tbqh I figure you're the one who posted it someplace else if it even was.