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ded thred >>5539883
More like get off my lawn edition.
Oldfag checking in.
>tfw getting hugged by a person one head taller
My naturally long eye lashes are like the only good feature I have going for me tbhon.
>implying my ex was a chaser
>implying he was more than an inch shorter than me or manlet height
I can't explain why chasers are invariably manlets, I don't have much experience with them. ;~;
I O U - 1 hug, redeemable March 2016
35S not November.
Yeesh In retrospect I kind of wish I was a November. Their promotion points were fucking low. I could have been a Sergeant First class by the time I got out.
Also, 30. I know that's not "old" in the grand scheme of things, but let's face it, I've been browsing this site for 12 years and I feel old sometimes. Especially when the kids on here these days are like 18-20.
you called me a hugboxer then literally went "muh archives" when i wanted to see you and form a valid opinion. like i get it you'd rather not post it but you cant pull the stalker meme on me. that's the rude part. i aint about that life. you are just fucking with me if you think im actively profiling anyone in these threads based on information and trivia that people show you when they post.
My eyes are some sort of grey-ish hazel.
>tfw you realize how manly your eyes are by looking at these pics
>form a valid opinion
for what purpose, I don't need to know it, you could have just taken my word for it like anyone else instead of choosing to waste that time backtracking to learn what I say is true
if your worried about around your eyes use this before bed, its amazing
At least we have souls. Unlike you ginger irish folk.
Isn't that why you can't get your picture taken?
>tfw huge nose and huge caveman brow
Makeup is so much work thoooo ;~;
There's a couple mechanisms that cause dark circles and they all have different treatment methods. One of them is hollowness under the skin though which isn't really fixable outside of getting a plastic surgeon to inject them to fill. I can't really tell by the picture what's going on with yours.
I haven't found a good centralized resource for surgeons so it's kinda hard. The archives here are okay for finding pictures of people who have gone to different places that might help. Outside of that just a lot of googling.
>yeah but sometimes I wonder if I should even bother you know?
...not really. if you can't afford it i could understand, and that's a pity. as soon as i stopped suppressing and realised who i wanted to be, i ordered my own meds. i've experienced general mental healthcare in the NHS and it sucks balls, no way was i going through gender identity clinics and endocrinologists.
what is stopping you?
shit potato cam, but can still see effect
yay for anemia circles
concealer is love
For the record >>5541644 isn't me.
Idk, it just seems kind of weird, like some part of me still struggles to see myself as female, but I saw her as female very easily. Conversely, I've told a couple people about it who seem to consider me entirely female and were probably imagining me as just fucking some burly dude in a skirt.
yeah but the honposting was the whole reason i wanted to see in the first place, because "im ugly hon xd" is USUALLY just a meme. so of course i want to see if you're being a memequeen. because it's kind of just a way of life. anyways sry i guess????
Yeah mine change between blue and green. I'd be happy to help with makeup though! I've been doing a lot with my routine lately. For a while I was doing too bold of a look so I started focusing on eyes and reducing what I did elsewhere, it's been working great! Symphonia32 is my skype if you have questions or anything :D I can show you my trick for holding the eyeliner pen too,but not posting those pics here lol. I was in fuck the world mode during those pics.
i can't formulate my words for shit right now im going to be real. but yeah don't call me a stalker, pls. i already have enough titles to live up to i can't burden anymore unless they served to inflate my ego.
Just let me make my old lady jokes without trying to analyze them ya damn Paddy. It's what you do, it's a way of endearing yourself to each other. For example, if you called me a damn braut I'd happily reply in kind. It's how ya greet people you like.
Human sexuality is complicated. I'm of the opinion that it's better not to over think it and apply labels, just have a good time and sleep with the people that you're attracted to. If you like her, and she likes you, that's really all that matters.
>some of us that look a certain way recognize that transition may not be a good choice at all, I could remain a 3/10 male or be a 3/10 male with breasts
eh just go for it. if you're worried about breasts outing you before you're confident enough that your face could pass, take an AA and take a SERM like tamoxifen instead of estradiol until you feel more comfortable.
at the very least it will keep you from becoming more manly.
>meet this MtF online
>become close friends with her
>she gives me advice and makes me hopeful for the future
>she disappears for a couple of months
>she's now batshit insane
Why is it the good ones who always go crazy?
She's not that "check your privilege" type
but she began talking about stuff like "passing is not as important as you think it is, living as a girl is more important".
She also was crazy in other aspects too
How's her mental state rn?
Maybe she did
I've met tons of MtFs online who are great people
I've posted enough mood killers so I'll make this my last one, hrt will do nothing for my appearance, there will be no point in that time where I will even slightly pass and while I'm happy to stay here and encourage those who can make it I don't see any merit to sincere delusions that I could
what she said isn't even crazy. not everyone has to give a shit how idiots in public perceive them. 99% of trannies aren't going to pass regardless of what they think so she sounds pretty reasonable when she prioritizing her own comfort and happiness over the petty standards society and culture tries to shove down your throat.
imi pls you ain't online
still not a surprise that somebody you only know online can go crazy I mean you don't rly know them that much
why tho ?
fuck no, no snow for me pls
the mad hun has crawled out of his lair underground i see, not me who said it and completely counter to my views
lurk more in the shadows where i don't have to see you pls, ty :*
That's absolutely right though. Sure plenty of perma-boymode shitposter on /mtfg/ like to encourage everyone to develop a complex about passing, but that's just not as effective as working on yourself and passing naturally and not building it up into some sort of immense social anxiety inducing thing.
>Mom let her puppy run out the door on new years eve and then he went missing for 5 hours after a firework went off
>stayed up all night and ran around searching for him
>he came back home early in the morning
>fast forward til today
>Mom is chatting with a friend downstairs
>says I let the dog get out
Should I just let this slip or let my reputation get more down the drain in the neighborhood?
i'm not trying to be a bitch but look, its going to get worse. you're going to either masculinize more, transition later, and end up being a hon, and REALLY regretting it, or you're going to kill yourself. I guess it's possible that you could also live a long, bitter life as a shell of a person too but I've never really heard of that happening. You can keep your boymode on hrt if you want or need to
How was your day overall /mtfg/?
Mine was pretty gucci. I had first session of laser and I got meeting with psychiatrists. I got my referral so I'm all approved to start hrt when my doctor gets back from holidays on the 25th. I knew I pretty much would get the referral today but I was still really nervous and worried that I wouldn't for some reason. So I'm pretty happy with progress and things today.
you'd be pretty surprised how satisfying it is to stop fucking hugboxxing, crying and circljerking on imageboards and actually just go outside and be yourself and not have these creeping paranoias every five seconds. because guess what, yeah, you're a tranny, but nobody gives a shit. so yeah, people are going to tell from time to time but it's just something you're going to have to get used to, because even if you opt to do exactly what you're doing right now, it's still the same results except for a lot more stress and depression. physically you're not even any different regardless it's just a different mindset.
Everyones diffeent. You'll never pass in some peoples eyes and some can't gell a drag queen from a cis girl. Focusing on your subjective appearance to the point where you're depressed because you won't pass is unhealthy. The best way to pass is to present, you can't be read as a girl if you're trying to hide your feminimity. There are plenty of cis girls who wouldn't pass if you were checking.
Even an ugly woman is a woman.
i woke up earlier than usual (12pm) and done absolutely nothing. Booking a holiday with my friends to fuerteventura for next month though!
>tfw literally everything about you is hyper masculine
What the fuck do I do? ;_;
I wish, just a pale bong that gets sunburnt extremely easily :(
Probably just relaxing, have a decent time in the sun you know. Only me and 2 other friends so won't get too crazy, dead cheap as well like £130 per person and that includes flights, travel insurance, hotel and a shuttlebus
Coen pizza sounds amazing. I don't like how restrictive pizza toppings are right now. As it stands theres only one or two I like. Why can't people be experimental with this? Someone though to put yogurt in the freezer and eat it that way but no ones ever made a rice and pea pizza.
I don't just look like a man though, I look like some testosterone beast
Most cis men don't even come close to this.
You're right. You probably don't look like a man.
I'm not really trying to convince you though. Just hoping it's useful advice to anyone else who reads it and actually wants to transition.
so what'd mtfg have for breakfast?
I just had breakfast of champions, leftover pizza
Not everyone can transition at 20 and pass.
i made a smoothie with blueberries, raspberries, soya yogurt and almond milk.
i used that to ingest my daily regiment of dietary supplements and psych meds, and finished it off with mones.
No amount of repeating it and making it sound worse. Every single person who has transitioned here can tell you that's what they would have said when they started, that's what they see people always say.
Sure, but that's depressing and no one wants to hear that. At least last night the tiny window that showed me while camming looked like a girl. Little victories right?
I always see a girl before I recognize myself.
i've just been puffing on some normal bud and there was like half of our lamb-sausage/chick-pea/fermented-beet/hot-capicola white-pizza from last night
it's only agp if it turns u on!
just think of it as a sad little peanut pizza
oh that sounds good besides the soya yogurt and almond milk, I'd prefer kefir/goat-yogurt and just toasting some nuts to put in
it's better to just eat actual fruit, my partner and I have pretty much stopped getting juices besides for specific recipes and stuff
I tend to eat a lot of fruits. I needed something to wash all the pills down. Plus since I've been a bit crotchety and sick, I needed the fluids.
Most mornings I don't even eat Breakfast though. I'll eat a small lunch and a small dinner usually.
That's the weird thing. As I've gotten older my appetite has gone down. I suspect the hrt is playing a part in it too.
Obviously we're not seeing the full picture, but just from your eyes and nose bridge I don't see anything wrong. Good enough for Da Vinci, in any case.
either way, you should bully her cuz she likes it :^)
Little victories are worth taking, I love those days or moments where your brain doesn't recognise you or apply those filters. Every once in awhile I get lucky too.
I swear that peanut butter doesn't turn me on, please don't kick me out ;~;
I only get turned on when it's mixed with jelly, that's less agp right?
If you really had dysphoria you would spend some energy trying to improve yourself instead of wasting all day shitposting and displaying your masculine energy defending yourself in this thread. You're just a confused, Edgar-tier gay man. Go back to gaygen hon and leave us girls alone.
I swear that I don't, but my biggest fantasy is to be dunked in marmalade and have people rub me with whole wheat wonder bread.
>you would spend some energy trying to improve yourself
I like my comfort zone tbhon.
Also improved everything I can without getting surgery, except for voice I guess.
or qt depending on how u look at it, tho to be fair ur embarrassment can add to the qt-factor
I've never been super big on hydrating with stuff other than just clean cold water, it's just so refreshing
I rlly wanna try making pine-needle tea the next time I'm sick since it's one of the best sources of vitamin-c
I hate trying to eat breakfast cus I'm usually sicker in the morning too tho I rlly try for my partner especially since it can be hard for me to eat during the day and if I eat too much for dinner I can have trouble sleeping from sickness
I don't rlly have much appetite anymore i just know I gotta eat
oh u brewed it? that's rlly neat! I rlly wanna do that sorta stuff but can never be confident in myself and my ideas
don't worry, even if it did turn u on you'd still fit in with the doggy-crowd :^)
but yeah, peanut-butter/jelly=TRUtrans, peanut-butter/other-nut-butter = agp
I could tell you what I need to do instead, that's easier.
>have a reason to leave my apartment ever
I wish I was delusional about my face and didn't need surgery but I doubt that's the case.
>tfw security guards tell you your parents need to be with you for the appointment
>tfw they look at you funny when you say you're 19
Fuck, I know it's plucked up to complain about this, but reeeeeeeee.
Brewing is easy don't worry about messing up. There's a lot of shit you need to do to make a good beer but you can fuck up with little equpiment and still have an ok beer. The only bad thing that can really happen is you ruin a batch and that's sad but not terrible. Just buy malt extract and dissolve it in boiling water, add some herbs for bittering, wait a few days and drink the whole thing flat. A lot cheeper than buying beer and you get used to your local taste.
kink-shaming isn't cool, anon
just live and let live, like how would u feel if someone made a meme out of some weird thing u like?
well I think that's generally the idea
they can be pretty convenient tho they're a bitch to lose or get folded in ur eye, I highly recommend the over-night ones
personally I switched back to glasses tho I was thinking of getting some contacts for like specific occasions and stuff
Alright everyone, shut the fuck up for a second. This is important.
I'm getting a nice chunk of change back for my income tax returns, and I'm planning on going all out on some whoremoans. But my bank is a shit, so my ability to acquire them from ADC or IHP is inhibited, to say the least.
I know there are online banks out there that don't seem to give half of a shit about what I buy online. Which do you all recommend?
How much progy and spiro should I be taking per day??
thanks, I'm more interested in like mead and maple wine and stuff too
the problem tho is rlly that I hate myself and my ideas and feel too worthless to bother trying to do stuff cus I'm sure I'll fuck it up or not be able to keep up with stuff and just waste stuff and think my ideas and goals aren't worth the effort
I kinda turn everything around me into garbage
>tfw do make-up for the 5th time ever in my life >realize theres no remover
>get most of it off by water
>eyeliner sticks still though
what dooooooo..? does it come off in a steamy shower or such?
totally didnt order a pizza moment ago, cba getting it looking like prince of persia
How to get honest feedback when stuck in the eternal hugbox?
>tfw two days ago I felt like I could probably pass with a voice but now I feel like shit and a man beast
I wish strangers were rude where I live.
I love mead!
Mead takes forever. If you can start it and forget about it after you get it in a secondary fermenter you won't have to keep up with much. You have good ideas, everyone does. You just need to try them to see.
Yeah, it is. It's just weird to have someone think I'm that young, especially since I used to look older than I was.
Iirc the FSF's credit union is good, but I forget how much you need to donate to them to be eligible. I know that it's $5 a month for students. I think it's $10 or $15 for non-students, but I'm not entirely sure.
Blanchard shitposted this meme until it stuck for every single trans who wasn't a homosex flamer wanting to cut their dick off at 5 y/o.
But Blanchard doesn't science so, what can you expect?
>called my mom again during a mood swing
>"anon you're not a girl. You're crazy! You don't have a vagina! You need to find Jesus"
Why do I keep doing this to myself?
case in point
>I've never found the idea of me being a woman erotic, only liberating. My libido is kill anyway, I would be willing to sacrifice ever having satisfying sex to feel comfortable with myself.
>so you'd describe yourself as asexual then
>kinda, i guess, b-
>SUPPRESSED AGP... NEEEEXT
>you're a disgusting fetishist and a walking sex act who can't stop full-timing their penchant but n-no, don't let me degrading you and depicting you as subhuman stop you from making your own life decisions.
I accept that AGP is a phenomenon that happens in trans-women. And yes, it makes sense that it would happen more often with transbians given their added sexual attraction to women, but Blanchard treats it not as a symptom or a coping mechanism of a confused trans person, but treats it, a fetish, as the originating point of these peoples' entire identities.
He claims trans people fit into 2 neat boxes, the exclusively "homosexual" transsexual transkids, and anyone else who deviates even slightly from this trend and then claims it's clear cut.
does it matter to him that an albeit smaller group of his "homosexual" transsexuals also report experiencing AGP despite only being attracted to guys? no, to him AGP and GP are inextricably linked therefore they can't actually be exclusively "homosexual" and therefore must be AGP which means if they were transkids, they must have been really horny kids.
It's so fucking dumb.
I dunno, my mom was fine with me being trans and she's supportive.
When I grew up my mom made fun of religious people and stuff.
>having logical parents
>implying call me dave won't be making us find allah in the near future
how do i know if i'm ironically american?
A guy once told me he loves tall women because he feels more powerful on top of them
>tfw bully-anon cheers you up and you feel like you could pass as an ugly girl if you got some clothes and a voice.
I love you bully-anon!
Bully anon is looking out for you by giving you the truth.
Bully anon wants you to find the strength from within and is showing you that you don't need other peoples approval nor do you need to justify yourself.
Bully anon is the hero you need. Just not the one you want right now.
ai moi se oot sä taas :"D
idc about my height THAT much
unpassy bcus boy, not bcus of the height
just that i might actually pass some day if i was shorter
>tfw you will never get embarrassed by your waifu when shes chuckling at the way you speak
uh oh, thats kinda ehee <:
did you end up letting him feel powerful ?
Who else here is playing? It's on the play store https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.turner.pocketmorties&hl=en
He was powerful... <3
A lot because the average driver doesn't know how to fucking drive!!!!
But I'm a maid and I'm pure and fair
And I'll never dance with a hairy bear
Nah, embracing it at this point. If i could just be someones personal cum toilet i would.
Yea that shits the easy part. The performance test is way harder. I failed it the first time because i floated a stop sign and i cant parrallel park. But the written shit is retard proof.
>tfw family offered to pay for my drivers license but driving is scary as fuck and i'm reckless.
lmao I barely passed my driving test
she even said so, "you were one point away from failure"
muh autism prevented me from comprehending and carrying out a lot of instructions properly
I need help! I slept in and missed my mones by 2 and a half hours. Is it okay to take them still? I remember asking a doctor about this when I got them and he said it would be okay if I wasn't like exactly on time but I don't know about 2 and a half hours...
I'm doing well, just been playing that pocket morty game some on my phone its interesting, doesn't seem half assed yet at least.
I did that on Saturday but yeah, also I found out that if you drive a mile your like 8x more likely to die buying the ticket than you are to win..
ie your tests are easier. uk is notoriously difficult by comparison. even the theory.
ask anyone who's sat their theory in the last decade or so (including instructors who had to resit it to keep up to date) about hazard perception. you will be hit by a tidal wave of disgust at it.
alright tough it out. istayed up like 28 hrs thwn slept 1 nowive been up for another 6. im like not tired but would pass out if i got comfy ykno.w shoutouts to coffee one of my favuorite fluids. my dumb dreams stuck in my head.
oh can i talk about my dreams?
last night my dream posed the question to me, "what if you were a squid?"
squid don't talk to each other... their lives must be so silent, and even when there are huge groups of them it must feel so solitary in the claustrophobic abyss.
if i were a squid i would probably go insane.
there's a little bit of edgar inside all of us