Old one was deleted by janitard apparently.
What is wrong with your face? Is that a huge bag under your eye? Or are you wearing a mask? You look like a 20 year old twink or a 40 year old woman whose plastic face is starting to slip. I need a less blurry picture to tell you more.
Girl, glasses don't work like that. You don't pass because you look like you're trying to be some 4 foot jap girl. Seriously, you can't go out in the real world looking like that. Please stop.
In that lighting you pass but a pic in better lighting would be more useful to see anything to improve. You look pretty good tho
Your face looks feminine in that pic, just don't wear your glasses or get a new prescription (also put eyeliner only on your top eyelid, if you put it all around your eyes it makes them look smaller. your eyes look like they would look good with wings too)
this one looks exactly like the first two.
This one is a better example of what people were asking for. You're not getting farmed for anything, don't flatter yourself.
I think you actually look more normal in this one. Main thing is the brow-ridge and the eyebrows. Bu otherwise you look ok.
Better lighting as requested.
I need to know if there's anything I can do to improve.
Have you gotten laser/electrolysis? You pass but it looks like you might have some shadow, have you tried the red/orange lipstick trick to cover it up?
Ah okay, thought you were doing that scene raccoon eyeliner thing, which doesn't usually flatter mtf's. I don't know how well wings would work with that whole steam thing, so maybe minimal eyeliner on just your top lid?
I had my first laser session this month. I hoped HRT could help with it but it's only slowed down how fast it grows.
What do you mean by this? Can you suggest ways to work around those without resorting to FFS?
Thanks I guess. :P My adam's apple is tiny and my teeth are perfect so those aren't issues.
i'm pre-anything, just want to ask for advice what I should do. Like laser for hair, hrt, ffs? I repeat I'm not fishing for compliments or hate.
I've been growing out my hair for a year now but it's slow
First thank you for good quality picture!
Get on laser and HRT as soon as possible because your biggest problem is your skin and HRT will help you with that.
Then after 2 years check if you still need FFS.
Your eyes are pretty feminine.
I'm feeling qt today
Pajama day is everyday
19 mtf 3-4 months on hormones.
I'm trying to go for that brazilian shemale world travelling escort look
I'm intersex and I've been told by my friends that the left half of my face looks female and the right half looks male. Is this true?
I just added lashes and got rid of my eye bags and did some touching up. Too lazy to put on real makeup. Here's the original. I love how clear Spiro makes your skin. Taking 4 times the normal dose of an acne medication is wonderful.
Which of these are best to use as a profile pic, if so?
Hi girls!! I'm new to dressing but I'm finally learning to be my real self. What do you think? How do I look? I don't think I want HRT because it will make my cute little tinkler not work.
Compulsive masturbation, yes indeed sir.
BUT. I 'm very open, I've got a girlfriend, a nice size of friends who I'm very open about this with.
I'd credit it to something if I knew, but it's definitely not to cope with being a social introvert
>26 years old
>4.5 years HRT
>I've had FFS
Very innocent looking. Church going, if you will. Pass.
I think you look better in the first picture, even with the shit lighting. It looks more natural to me. But you pass.
>i'm pre-anything, just want to ask for advice what I should do. Like laser for hair, hrt, ffs?
All of the above, tbqh. You kind of favor Benedict Cumberbatch. :/ I do agree with >>5524130 # in that you have feminine eyes. That's more than some people can boast.
Oh yeah, you pass.
Definitely. Right now you look a lot like the girl that plays Ginny Weasely. HRT will do wonders for you.
You strike me more as an androgynous/feminine boy right now.
I'd say you pass, but the blue hair is meh. All natural is better, imo.
>I'm trying to go for that brazilian shemale world travelling escort look
Maybe my eyes are just fucked, but I don't see what your friends mean. I think you look fine.
Passing, but I wouldn't use any of those. Extreme angles, glare, and low resolutions do not a good profile picture make.
Nooo! You're already fairly feminine. Give HRT a try. I can see you being qt.
I'm not falling for this bait.
i want ur love mr greek statute man
your face is so pretty wow!!
Hey, I'm also 25 right now. Can you tell me what sort of things you did to get that look? I mean really the details, what medication, dosage and for how long? I genuinely think you look really good, and I need this sort of motivation for myself
Really? I hate the way I look... anyway
>For first two years DIY Spiro 200 Estrofem 4mg
>Since then legit Androcur 50 mg Estrofem 6mg.
>12 laser sessions on my face
>2-4 laser sessions on different body parts
>Hardcore skin care
>I pluck my brows in a different way that most tutorial show. Because those tutorial don't get giant brow bossing into account.
I... what!? Pic related is 'superfeminine' not me. I'm typical man faced hon. I cry every night about how I hate myself and how no FFS will ever help me.
I can't leave my house without feeling anxious. so for the most time I'm in my andro-mode. I'm not like other girls that I cross on the street, and I really hate that feel. ;_;
>First forehead type 3, orbital rims and hairline
>then VFS and hair transplant
>then jaw, nose, chin (I want all those things gone)
20 months of HRT, don't feel like it's done much
Ok I'll set the scene. I'm intersex, spent the last 10 years injecting myself with testosterone trying to be the son my parents wanted and not the period having wreck they got. Well that fucked up. I started e again in September. I post sometimes in mtfg, sometimes ftm gen, sometimes fem gen. I had a rhinoplasty last week to bring my nose back to how it was pre-T. Within a few months of starting T it turned my nose super Jewish. Thanks dad. I'm having laser on my face and just hit 4 months mones. I got a few more surgeries planned. How am I looking for this pic at a day and a half post op, no makeup. How do I pass better? What else should I get done? I was thinking brow and hairline for sure.
You look 100% like a girl to me in this pic. I can't tell any notable brow from here, and your hairline appears to be rounded like a female's. I can't say anything about your body, but you're collarbones aren't very visible which is a good sign.
You can cry all you want, but by that picture you're in the top 40% of females as far as appearance. That being said you could post a pic without makeup or that soft skin camera filter you're using.
nah he's tall like a big neonazi skinhead, he goes running and has Russian guys trying to talk to him about bullshit. i get the brown hair and eyes from my mom, but put my dad's big nose on a small, mousey haired brown eyed person and you get either an italian ftm or your average jewish guy.
Leaning towards n/b because reasons. And yes I'm edgy trash because I realise I'm not remotely pretty.
I'm formerly mtf, now just kinda fuckit. I like make-up and shaving and shit, but don't plan to hrt or surgery. I don't like any genitals so I might as well stick with the ones I've got, yknow.
Yeah, I know it's dumb. Just helps with self-confidence. I have real trouble going outside and it's somehow empowering, I've been using it for over a year now. Sorry.
If you're on the left you might have a decent chance, but I can't say for certain without a better picture. If you're the guy on the right, your only choices are become a hon or killing yourself.
I would say your face looks pretty androgynous. Based on the clothes you're wearing and your hairline, I'd assume you were a cis girl.
However, if you want to look more feminine, I would try thinning out your eyebrows. They're not outrageous or anything (and I actually like eyebrows like yours on a girl), but they're a little thick.
Also, I never knew T could change your nose, and I'm currently taking it. Honestly, though, I would welcome having a larger nose.
Pretty decent shot. Obviously, you have to get rid of the facial hair and probably thin your brows a bit. I don't see anything super masculine here. Your chin is a bit wide, but it could get subtly feminized with HRT if you're lucky.
The other post is flattering but I don't think I look like her
To the one actually quoted: Thanks for the objectivity I suppose. I can't get rid of all my facial hair that easily... I'm worried cause if I start hrt it might be irreversible right?
Yeah usually you need laser and/or electrolysis. HRT is reversible if you aren't on it for too long, but growing significant amounts of breast tissue is permanent. Also you'll eventually go infertile.
....please wash your hair and your face. With a lot of Tgirls it isnt really the looks that get you clocked its the hair/skin care. Face looks femme but not the hair being all bushy and disheveled.
is there hope?
or will i stuck looking like a boy forever
cis fem but ugly
cis fem, attractive
>What can I do to improve?
get a better camera/lighting
pass with a mild tranny feel, wouldn't suspect you from just the face but might wonder if your voice is shit or something, normal people probably won't suspect shit though
i'm pretty sure there are some chasers and bored LGBs commenting in every thread
obviously laser and hrt, maybe adam's apple, otherwise hard to tell from just the profile
italian cis female
you could pass for a tomboyish chick even now if it wasn't for that hairline
congratulations, you pass as an autist
>Tips to pass as male?
you already do, if you don't irl it's either your voice or the retard face and perspective
androgynous, leaning female, you look kinda old so i would probably read you as fem if you weren't dressed like that
i have no clue why exactly tho, maybe the makeup is making you look more masculine, probably because your left forehead is covered with hair
unless you're not wearing one then what is wrong with your eye
some pics are andro, some are female, overall balance is female, you probably pass outside of confirmation bias general
use the last one
andro but thought female at first
you kinda look like a 40yo stem major
female but something is off, probably wouldn't notice if i didn't know you're trans
girl reads female dude reads male but what the fuck those fucking tunnels
you pass as a syrian immigrant or something, female
reminds me of mia khalifa
do something with that hair
female but kinda andro
cis female, attractive (by my standards and i'm really picky)
>What else should I get done? I was thinking brow and hairline for sure.
no need to, laser any excessive body hair, face is both feminine and hot, best wait for your nose to completely heal before you decide to get anything done on your face, they can still change months after surgery
desu you might have bdd or somehting
female but man what an ugly picture
male in full picture, cis female in thumbnail
>I don't know what I am doing.
brushing your hair in a weird fashion
anakin is that you
sorry you look completely 3d
at worst you can just hang out with white people since they can't tell the difference anyway
those red eyes are just icing on the kek
>Yeah, I know it's dumb. Just helps with self-confidence. I have real trouble going outside and it's somehow empowering, I've been using it for over a year now. Sorry.
That's actually kind of cute. You're alright, Sasuke.
First I have ever felt good about myself. You can do it, if you work at it. PRE HRT
Will I pass once I start HRT?
20, obviously pre-everything
Your face is androgynous and i think i couldn't tell
but i would most likely gender you female because of your body
also you're really cute
Probably, you have some good features
Your nose is a bit big but i think that's not too much of a problem
But you should get laser
And pluck your eyebrows
you look like chase from good mythical morning
I'm nearly half a year into HRT, doing everything else as I can. Laser, eyebrows, minimal makeup, you name it. People don't really gender me, so I don't know.
What hope have I got? Anything I should work on?
hot girl with a beard. laser and you'll be a pretty girl.
your eyes look retarded.
yes there is hope. you look like right in the middle, grow your hair out.
stop posting in every thread when you know you pass.
yes, but asking "will I pass after HRT???" is dumb.
pass as a 30 year-old PTA mom. How's your voice. Learn more makeup if you want to look younger. Change your clothes to look your age.
voice will be the end of you
get the fuck out of here, you know you pass
Apparently I passed flawlessly Saturday at the club, I just expected people would see me as a girly guy, but lots of guys hit on me and after I left my best lesbian friend asked a guy who I talked to and made out with if he was strictly straight and he reacted very weird xD. All night I thought he was just some chaser.
Me at Christmas. British teeth / 10, I know. I'm recovering from top surgery and am getting braces when I can drive again.
I have all ur pics pham, even the pre-HRT ones. Bretty gud, but look better with more tan to your skin 2bh. Deceptive angle too, but I gotta say that position is my favorite one to see trans girls in :^)
You disgust me anon, I cant believe I said nice things about you before.
Ayyyy we # nao
# cute face but 480x480 + surgery
# horrible crop job desu, makes your traps and delt area look fuckhuge
pls post more pics so I can # again :^)
>i want ur love mr greek statute man
I will be your friend pham, but I thought you already had a bf? Awww you gave your trust to that nerdy neckbeard chaser and what did he do? He violated your trust and treated you like shit.... shoulda picked a real man to begin with bb girl :^)
You already have my Skype so you know what to do ;P
Its me saying this so should really be taking this to heart. You are very passable, and p decent looking considering your age. You have done a really good job on your skin and hair care, plus I like the amount of bodyfat you have... that pic u posted a while back in a half tank top and panties was hot af 2bh pham :3 [heavy breathing]
Are there cis girls hotter than you? Obviously, compared to cis girls you are pretty average looking, but so what? Your brow is shitty, hairline sucks, and your nose isnt the best, but FFS money would be better spent on quality breast augmentation IMO.
You can bottom for me anytime sweetie (:
>Why is that asshole so irresistible...?
>fuck that nerd ill love you bb
Dont hate the player, hate the game pham :^)
Its just banter on a Chinese cartoon imageboard breh.
Uhh they know im top only, that I lift weights, that im witty and intelligent, and a dank memer, plus they have seen pics :^) oh and im trans attracted so after Prince "I didnt even know u were trans :^)" Charming I am pretty much the #2 fantasy of trans girls.
Tichbits is that you? Stop phone posting u fag
Fucking phone posters
lel anon are u me?
>Will I pass once I start HRT?
I usually dont comment on "pre everything" fags, but you have the potential to look like
Which is pretty much my ideal "natural" trans. Her facial structure is better than yours but you can get close enough. Everybody knows that Latinas, specifically Hispanics mixed with Amerindians are the most passionate lovers, and the best bottoms.... so dont screw up my stereotypes pham :^)
m-mom?!?!? GTFOOOO im trying to talk to tranniesssssss T__T
LOL you look like my mom pham, she is 57. IDK how that makes you feel but it creeps me the fuck out... for real doe.
Oh look its a Satan worshiping edgelord. Tell me anon, what do you know of the Dark side? I can show you the Dark side if you wish (^:
>you're kind of an autistic asshole
U getting triggered over there m9? u mad breh? cuz u sound mad as fuck right now.
This past weekend I talked to one of the MtFG trips over Skype voice, it was the first time we ever spoke to each other... and we talked for 2hrs pham, about all kind of topics, no awkwardness, no autism, no memes.
Anyone that has ever talked to me will confirm for you that not only am I not autistic, but I am very intelligent, entertaining, and easy to talk to, and I have a deep sexy voice :3 ..... but u stay triggered over banter on 4chin, see how that works for you kek :^)
lol that is slightly amusing. Are you on Tren? because I am :^) so how would the fight be fair? Have you seen Tren Rage IRL? Its not pretty anon....
LOL u da real MVP anon
I K R
k done for today kiddos, I will be back again tomorrow (:
boring day, too much work, but i fucking like this shirt !
I've thought about this shit too and here's my rant. Ask yourself this: what other guy ITT would a tgirl go for? Go over all the posts. Notice something? My Carthagian nigga is the only actual guy who is a PERSON. Forget about the confidence, the machismo, the bragging and how he makes girls chase him - unless you are a total retard you know this shit works on any girl and you know why. But he's the only guy who shows any actual personality in his posts, who talks about himself and gives girls a reason to give a fuck, rather than just being another faceless anon giving insults or compliments. He also makes it easy to track him via an interesting pic (that also raises interest and makes you sub-consciously associte him with one of history's most famous conquerors). This nigga has put THOUGHT into this, he knows neither pussy nor boipussy comes easily, you need a STRATEGY here, and to put in WORK.
What's your strategy? Come in here and tell a girl she's pretty and hope she'll jump your dick? Look again at the pics ITT: lots of these girls are smoking and waaay beyond questoning whether they pass or not, and they fucken well know it just as much as they know chasers lurk. They know why they're here.
I'm not hitting on anyone, either. I was insecure, didn't know how, scared of tgirls. Because I thought them a different category; I was as nervous about approaching them as I was about cisgirls in high school. But I've learned something here, anon, and my nigga Hannibal was one of those who showed me the light: transwomen are women. This is not meant in some SJW-type way, but for all intents and purposes tgirls are girls. Approaching them, talking to them, seducing them, etc. is the exact same game. Not good at that game? Go to /fit and /fa or just kill yourself.
Friendly reminder that voice is 50% of passing
Why haven't you worked on your voice anon?
VFS only restricts the lower half of your voicebox and only modifies the pitch. reverberation is what makes a voice male or female.
Plus there's only like one guy that can do it right
Well there's Yeson with microscalpels and permanent sutures and Remacle with laser and temporary sutures and I guess the results of both boil down to whether the surgeons are having a good day.
Of course you need voice training afterwards, but you don't have to shift your larynx around like you're some acrobat showing off your throat skills, and I think that takes a huge bit of work off your shoulders.
That pic though.
ahah thx I guess !
i hate to admit this but yeah, most of the time my voice out me :/ but i'm working on it, so maybe in some few month it will be good :D
qt 3.14/10 tier
30 yo cis girl
picture is kinda weird, but pass !
you should sleep a bit more ! but you pass :D
why the fuck do you want FFS
average cis girl
Does the one on the left look like a man?
OK Imma be real. This is a shitty pic that makes you look old and that has been said before. But looking closely, it's clear it's just really really shitty lighting that makes your hair look gray. And the glasses maybe. And the haircut a little. This shit is salvageable,though. Start by just doing your hair differently and getting better light then post another pic.
You almost pass already. And my almost I mean that I can see you're trans when you explicitly tell me so, but not sure if I could clock you if I saw you on the street. Also hispanic chicks are the hottest hands down, cis or trans, so you'll be fine.
You're right Anon, I'mma be real too, I did it on purpose. I took a bunch of pictures and put the worst one up on purpose. If I can pass as an older lady in shitty lighting, poor angle and no smile, I feel like that means more than giving everyone a doctored photo.
Thanks for being upfront though. I'll work on it and come back someday.
4 years, 8 months on hormones, no surgeries. I feel like I have made it. I'm not 100% happy with my body, especially weight, but at least I look like a woman.
Sorry about the mediocre lighting and camera.
Seriously considering transitioning. I care little if I'll be considered ugly, and if I'd pass I'd be really fucking happy. But I value honesty so don't be afraid to voice your first thought when you see my picture here.
If I'd start transitioning I'd start counting calories again to get rid of my depression chubbyness, and because I'm fairly beefy I would also make efforts to reduce my muscle mass.
Would be grateful for your feedback, please don't be afraid to say what you think.
someone kill me please. I just got back from a date with some guy I met on OKC, and he basically called me ugly. we were just chitchating before the movie started when he asked me if he looked the same as he did in his pictures. I told him that he looked even more handsome in person cause he did. so I asked him the same thing, and he said "you look... different than your pictures and kinda older". and my heart just sank, I wanted to cry so badly. he seemed to like me a lot over text and on the phone. however during the date he never once tried holding my hand, putting his arm around me, or kissing me. and it was really awkward when we said goodbye. /blog
anyway I'm never gonna be able to afford FFS while I'm still young. I just wanna give up on everything and start escorting, nothing good ever happens to me in this small town.
You look like a pretty Latina girl in that pic, how different do you look in real life? Maybe he did that cause he got insecure about dating a mtf suddenly? How tall are you? And it doesn't look like you'd look bad in any different lighting or angle
Jeydon's a curious one. His body passes but voice+height give him away a little bit. It doesn't sound like he's ever been on T but his Adam's Apple and hands look like it.
hrt since 18, 21 now. Literally just eyeliner and mascara so hi, my skin is garbage
Hello Nidel, my little French flower. How is your swimming and weight loss coming along? Post shirtless pic to confirm progress or we riot :^)
>My nikka why, can't that shit give you ED and kill libido?
lol that is just something that is in the Wikipedia article, which I am assuming you read since you mentioned it. Pretty sure it was put in there as a meme. Tren is 5x more Androgenic than Testosterone, the mere possibility that it could cause ED or kill libido seems illogical; and anyone that has ever done it will explain to you it absolutely does not.... in fact quite the opposite :^)
Shhhhh anon pls
Let me ask you, have you studied the Battle of Cannae? The critical lesson of Cannae is that you always have 2 extra allies in battle: your opponents hubris, and your knowledge of the battlefield... never take these advantages lightly, and never give them away :)
>"you look... different than your pictures and kinda older"
BTFO and on suicide watch confirmed xD
I know I am a horrible person for laughing at this, but I just have to ask.... did you let him know you were trans in your post?
I have a thing for Latinas anon, if the pussy is good and your mom cooks Carnitas and Maiz Ensalada then I will be your friend :^)
> I just wanna give up on everything and start escorting
aaaaaand this is why I stopped getting serious with Latinas and only doing hookups. Burned twice, never again.... let my folly become your lesson.
I'm from a place that every
woman looks like a super model, there is that non-written rule "if you are ugly or fat don't come outside". And I feel like I'm braking this rule ALL the time.
I just feel like my passing is very unrealable. I need this surgery to be more confident.
Yes, very much so when I wrote that. But can still see it while sober, idk maybe I'm crazy. She cute as fuck tho, either way.
Damn latinas are superior... fuck that guy, he's clearly on the wrong kind of drugs or something.
No had a couple friend who did some other form of steroids (dont recall which) and they avoided tren for this reason.
Well I obviously know the battlefield brah. And as for my opponent's hubris... well you clealy think yourself Hannibal, but what if you are Varro - or Hannibal at Zama? xD
[spoiler]yes i jerk it to documentaries about the punic wars[/spoiler]
Every stereotype, both positive and negative, is 100% true. And you have not lived til youve had pupusas
I know I don't pass but I don't know how to get real feedback so I'm going to post.
I'm debating whether to get ffs but I'm afraid it will just leave me looking just as strange as I do now, at best an ugly passing girl and that doesn't really seem worth it to me, id rather just not pass at all than be ugly.
I don't look any better in a close up shot
>You look like a pretty Latina girl in that pic, how different do you look in real life? And it doesn't look like you'd look bad in any different lighting or angle
I don't think I look too different in person, but my nose looks bigger and chin looks receded if you look at my face in profile. I definitely do know my angles (pic related) that's why I posted a picture taken from straight on first.
>Maybe he did that cause he got insecure about dating a mtf suddenly? How tall are you?
Yeah I don't know it was a drive thru theater, so it's not like anyway would see us anyway. I'm 5'6" and he was 6'1".
>did you let him know you were trans in your post?
Yes of course I did. I told him I'm trans way before we ever decided to plan a date.
>I have a thing for Latinas anon, if the pussy is good and your mom cooks Carnitas and Maiz Ensalada then I will be your friend :^)
My mom is a great cook and an excellent teacher. We made tacos de carnitas a few days ago.
>aaaaaand this is why I stopped getting serious with Latinas and only doing hookups. Burned twice, never again.... let my folly become your lesson.
True we're pretty fucking crazy. The whole you must marry a rich man to support you while you're young thing even made its way to me. I just wanna be happy with how I look, and money can do that. I've had uglier trans friends find sugar daddies so I don't see why I can't?
would clock as female, but there are possible improvements as always. do you have better quality pics?
you are seriously hot, can't stress that enough... but do you really want to reduce yourself to the worst latina sterotype, though? at least use your looks to do modelling/porn or something where you have some control. don't give power over yourself to someone else.
idk i can't not see it... pupusas are soft corn tortillas filled with cheese, pork, refried beans and also the tears of angels, ground unicorn horn, and some sallad the secrets of which salvadorians guard better than the roots of ms-13 in their goverment. its fucken heaven is what it is
They grow up so fast.
You're not ugly though... you currently look like a butch cis girl. Get some better fitted women's clothes and a more flattering haircut, try some light foundation and at least some mascara. You'll look like an average girl at worst, but possibly better.
Im pretty sure I am one of those that the more I try to look overtly feminine the more ridiculous I look.
I wasn't ugly as a guy but it sure seems that will be the case if I actually transition and try to look like a girl. My face is too wide among other things.
Any chance I have potential? Be honest pls. Pic is from Christmas so still fairly recent.
>well you clealy think yourself Hannibal
So one day you are ready to learn, the next day you are ready to teach? Best of luck friend.
What is your problem? Take your coat and hoodie off while you are inside.
Phone posters are fucking barbarians I tell you.
>Yes of course I did.
Well then he is probably just a cuck and was going to "try" it and got scared... I figured u were trying to ruse him 2bh, but if you were honest then he should at the very least have been polite. See bb this is why you need a trans attracted man that knows exactly what he wants :^)
>My mom is a great cook and an excellent teacher. We made tacos de carnitas a few days ago.
o-o-ok t-that sounds p-pretty legit p-pham :3 [heavy breathing]
So what do I call you? and do you live in the US Southwest or near a sanctuary city?
You will never pass if you keep phone posting
>Minus the spray tan
She doesnt have a spray tan, actually the lighting in that pic is deceptive her skin is darker than what that pic shows..... fuck off for not knowing what a spray tan even looks like.
Mirin your friends biceps, I guess you have that kind of time when you skip leg day every day tho..... manlets when will they learn? Your arms dont look horrible considering you were born a girl, legs are shit tho.... I mean you guys do realize its a Squat Rack not a Curl Rack right? :^)
[disdain for plebs intensifies]
>Any chance I have potential?
No potential cuz phone poster 2bh pham