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>crush wakes me up at 7:30 AM because she really needed smokes and said she'd smoke some weed with me
>go there, smoke weed
>get hella fuckin high
>walk around Bellevue before she starts work
fun mornin desu.
Honestly, it's a pretty common misconception, one generally assumes that if you're putting something directly into the body that it disperses at a constant rate, but your blood levels spike immediately after the injection and drop until they bottom out before your next injection. It spikes, just in a different way.
My is on the right, should I continue my transition?
Here have something you too
unless that photo of you on the right is uncommonly flattering for you, i think you're already ok. idk i'd find the pre-ffs picture of you more attractive than the photoshopped-ffs one, and i'm attracted to women, but it's hard to assess, the picture on the left makes you look very young.
maybe you need a trachea shave? unless other photos of you are worse, you might easily already be fine, really
Ah no, it's ok. I appreciate it but I'm far too paranoid to post my face to anyone on here. Not that I don't trust you I'm just autistic about it. Did you use photoshop a lot before trying your face though?
Good luck with your ffs, I hope it goes well!
talk shit get hit
jk for real tho gratson the sex(?)
Girls! I did it!! I got estro, spiro, and progesterone. I survived the blood test too!
Is that Shirely?
>My FFS in 31 days.
oh by this you mean you are already getting it? well it should turn out well, you aren't starting off without already having nice features to work with. good luck
there is nothing hotter than another trans girl (who actually passes pretty well) with fingers twice the volume of yours iron gripping your wrists and slapping you until you squeak that you're her bitch and then having her shove your head down to her cock
I have seen the enlightenment buddha spoke of
Normally I would be happy to hear that but yesterday I accepted a 'friend' request on my FB from some local MtF trans. She is in pic related.
She told me I look like a balding male with hollow lips and no cheeks. And I kind of agree with her. For me she looks like a cis women and I look like a man.
I need my surgery.
i'm sorry you received that abuse. she looks like an overconfident asshole who just uses other trans women as cannibalistic fodder for her own ego. those people are full of shit. they're on here too, but they're also full of shit.
I'm not an artist by any means. But I do use it all the time for last... I dunno 15 years? :P
My surgeon also pointed out that I have adam's apple even though it's barely visible with normal condition (BMI 24 so it's probably because I'm fat).
But I decided to skip it for now because I want to undergo Voice Feminisation Surgery at Yeson.
I tell myself that I'm more natural and that I'm more real than her but truth is there is more woman inside her that in me.
I'm shy nerdy girl and she is this gigi style glamour woman.
for fuck sake I'm not even full time.
desu between anon and her fb friend it's pretty subjective. anon looks like a fairly normal attractive "girl next door" type girl, whereas the fb girl looks like a high glam, over the top, pornstar type girl.
One is the type that normal people like, the other is the type 15 year old boys like.
That said, I do think anons virtual ffs is an improvement.
no, i imagine her personality is repulsive. she says gross things about people as described and poses like a phoney like that--i can't imagine enjoying being around her. i'm sure some people find her attractive, but i can't tell behind how obnoxious she looks
>I accepted a 'friend' request on my FB from some local MtF trans
Why are you living out and proud in the first place. You could go stealth and live a good, non-politically charged life.
make me. as i said, i'd rather just deny you and not be a degenerate.
honestly I have facial characteristics similar to her and stealth isnt possible with them unless you live in the south. and even then...
she is feminine enough that she can go full time without passing to 100% of people and she wouldn't look gross at all but stealth just isnt in the cards without ffs
i say this with experience interacting with hundreds of people. some of them just clock or get uncanny valley. just how it is.
the sad truth is many male puberty things aren't even easy for us to see but other people detect them subconsciously, so pictures arent all they seem. for that reason, unfortunately, trans girls really are held to a higher standard to pass than cis girls. it sucks but thats life
But vapid idiots are hot.
I'm glad you're in a position to get them. its really gonna help. ffs is so magical for us honestly, its better than srs for psychological problems
just remember you're beautiful right now. that bitch is totally wrong. you do not look like a man and your cheeks are gorgeous and your lips are nice. don't feel like you're doing this because you're an ogre because you arent, you need to do it for your own identity
>Let's add that I'm 5'11" with 17" shoulders
This is the sort of thing that makes FFS necessary. It's fine having a few somewhat more "masculine" features, but when you have like a whole bunch of them that's when it starts to effect passing and fixing the ones you can will hopefully tip the balance the way you want it.
>ffs is so magical for us honestly, its better than srs for psychological problems
Have you had both to judge this? I'm post-srs but not post-ffs and it's amazing what srs does for you self-image when you're genitally dysphoric. I've never felt so good in my body since srs, it's near enough cured my dysphoria and any psychological problems I had.
I'd still like ffs I'm not in anyway near a rush to get it now.
>tfw voice is deep as fuck with no hope of ever sounding female
I assume you want me to prove my handwriting is bad?
hmm well I mean that in general terms. everyone has different levels of dyphoria. majority of trans girls are more about face than about their genitals is what i mean
are you stealth?
Well if you have genital dysphoria it'll be amazing for you. I get the mindset of "oh well no one sees your genitals anyway so it doesn't really matter as much as ffs" but until you've had it you really don't understand how much better it makes your life.
>are you stealth?
Yeah, no one aside from my partner knows I'm trans. Though I don't lead and incredibly social life but I've not been misgendered or even questioned ("are you a boy or a girl?" type thing) in like 4 years.
I don't love my face but I'm okay with it. What really helped my confidence/dysphoria in that area was been gendered correctly many times while in no makeup, hair not done up and just in androgynous pajamas to people at the door.
I said one two three in swedish.
now i want popcorn. wait where the fuck do you work? i think i asked that before but i am blind AND have awful memory. regarldess i like your handwriting it's pretty easy to read. i used to have that exaxt same nail polish then a housemate stole it rip.
oh, you just said it really fast so i didnt underst - "in swedish" okay now i REALLY didnt udnerstrand.
Doesn't really matter what I say when i'm just posting to show my manly voice
i cant even paint my own nails, my sister used to help. gourmet popcorn, huh. wish i could try.
im not sure thats how phonetics works u gotta speak like slow and clear, yknow. probably.
see, they agree, im not completely winging it.
i'm not ver ygood with descriptive words. you're like slightly deeper than the norm. i cant actually tell which accent it is.
No, here's the thing you said but in swedish.
Such a manly handsome voice tbhon
i just have really shaky hands so i fuck it up and get impatient. also i like it when other people do it, i like feeling like im being pampered. i miss my ex giving me footbaths and painting nails and stuff.
Young manly man?
I need to start working on my female voice more often, I don't have one at all.
tfw gotta go to a breakfast with wacky family after only 2hrs sleep soon.
>you will never have a bf who's taller than you because you're really tall
5´10" but everyone is such a manlet these days.
>tfw neighbor sees you as a guy and will never deep throat fuck you
>tfw hes really really cute
>tfw he paints portraits but oils fuck up his hands
>tfw too scared to askk..
>tfw talked about dating someone cool he met online in front of you with his room mate
>tfw will never be able to cuddle and feel him behind you
>tfw gave you a hug after a week coming back
>tfw first time seeing him again
>tfw liked the stuff mom got me to give to people
yeah, I'm drinking an instant one right now. I'm a horrible coffee snob though and I don't have an espresso machine at home so it tastes bad. I might buy a real coffee on the way.
>tfw too tall, hon, gross voiced and man-faced to ever have a bf
>tfw neet failure without a future
I have the same concern. But if i dont get this second job i dont think I'll have a choice.
Probably I'll try a chaturbate cam once or twice and I'll get no views because I'm gross and I'll quit because the blow to my self esteem is killing me.
I won't be on here for awhile I doubt anyone would care. My grandfather passed today after a ten year battle with altztimers the last time I saw he he didn't even recognize me I'm glad he never found out I am a tranny and at least he's finally at peace cherish the ones you love because you never know when they will be gone.
>call center isnt dead end
are you serious
face to face customer service isnt dead end but call center is pretty god damn dead end unless you make management (most of us wont we are spergs)
But you don't want it enough to ever leave your comfort zone. If you did you'd be years fulltime by now.
Like your "gross" voice is not deep or manly. The amount of training you would need is tiny. But you'll never believe me because all compliments are hugboxing so you don't have to act on them.
>gf found my porn stache
>asks what it's all about
>is mad I kept this from her and that I got embarassed at her
>tells me she's cool with it and we can watch some together
>talks about some really kinky shit for a while and how she was mostly into it
>all of a sudden she mentions "knotting" and giggles
He was 89 he lived a very full life had been to multiple countries and shared his compassion with many I'll always cherish the time I spent with him he's a truly amazing man. And thank you for your support in don't know how I'm going to get a tatto in memorial of him thankfully my family has decided to create so we can remember Doyle the way he was.
I think I'm finally almost done with this fucking map
Had some mix ups and lots some of the assets and progress but I think I'm finally able to get off it, soon..
Having lunch now.
My huge jaw, chin and browbone are all very real.
I really do want to try though but it's hard to get motivated when how I look and sound make me feel so disgusting and bad, not getting anywhere also makes me feel terrible.
good enough imo
bullshit is a v special kind of shit
how you unwinding?
am making a grilled cheese against my own wishes just because im hungry and we have nothing in the fridge
then im gonna hopefully be full and play vidya till pookies awake rofl
um, nothing really stands out, but probably the weirdest thing i had for breakfast ever was stingray with pancakes and fried potatoes on a sailboat.
what strange foods do you like?
How do I start then?
I really don't know how
there's no "problem" with her motivation, if you never recieve any rewards for your effort you'll stop trying eventually
you wouldn't know because you've had positive feedback your whole life and probably have been in several intimate relationships
ltierally what >>5515952 said
i woudltn mind a strong gf tho that can lift my lazy ass.
start w/ voice u fucking dork. read link in OP or smething
no dying. four sugars in every coffee will turn anyone sweet. you're still pure, pls don't ruin that bb. then who am i gonna daydream about buying popcorn ffrom?
excuse me but what the FUCK are you trying to do with your Gran Turismo???
oooh why were you on a sailboat
was the stingray any good? taste more like fish or chicken? @_@ can u describe it
i like...i like comfort food mostly
i used to put parmesan on fries when i was a kid...
does that count @______________@
gonna go make some toast now actually
that sounds pretty pleasant, hope you can really relax anon
1. Stop wearing boy clothes, start doing literally anything to push your transition forward. You're doing nothing but sitting at home playing video games, shitposting, and popping skittles.
2. Find work, or something to keep yourself occupied. Being a neet isn't working.
3. Stop endlessly venting here about you're appearance, your obsession is making it worse.
She hasn't done anything but take self med hrt for close to 3 years. It's a motivation problem, call it what it is.
Its the easiest work ever and so is management cam work will only last while your young call centers look good on a résumé stroking your dick for hours does not. I make like 2 grand a week it is easy as fuck.
>mom talking about when I was a baby
>"before you got your very first haircut people thought you were a girl because it was long and curly. I didn't want to cut it"
trans from the womb to the tomb i guess
I guess voice and clothes then, not much else to work on.
> Find work, or something to keep yourself occupied. Being a neet isn't working.
I literally can't get a job and I don't know what I would do to keep myself occupied, I wish I still had friends.
>Stop endlessly venting here about you're appearance
It helps I think, no one I can talk about trans stuff with and i'm not very good at dealing with the feels.
Also I did some things but I still look manly as hell ;_;
My mom said I looked like a girl when I was young too, thanks puberty.
If by chance the girl who was reading a book and got off at 7th station in LA, you have the face, hair and posture down but your walk needs serious work. You still keep your toes apart, I assume it's cause of your massive gt
Honestly, at this point doing anything will help, if you can start presenting and work on your voice you'll be moving forward. Right now you're stuck in a holding pattern.
>It helps I think
I don't think it does, it keeps you just comfortably numb enough to not have to solve your problem. If you stopped dealing with your feels this way and dealt with them by doing something you'd be a lot better off. This place isn't good for you.
Also, you live in Sweden right? Surely there's programs to get people work.
I was actually on a boy scout trip to scuba dive in the keys, was fun, all the guys were qt and the captain was this cool older guy who told stories about the place.
and stingray is hard to describe. Its really solid I guess but tastes kind of like clams? idk thats probably the best description I could give. It definitely tasted good though, just not like anything I had ever eaten.
Those things would require me to go and be social as a man, wouldn't last long and my shrink thinks i'm too broken to do anything.
You have no idea how badly I want to go fulltime and stuff but it's just impossible for me ;-;
>tfw no friend to bully you into fulltime when you're a coward
Every time I work on my voice I give up after a while because I never notice a difference, same with my appearance ;-;
>tfw you've done pretty much everything except clothes and voice and those two things wouldn't help probably
Yeah im for real. Most of you girls transitioned because you're losers and chase each other because of your fetish. You hate straight male chasers because you claim they want you for your deck yet these transgirls fucking each other literally with their dick.
So much hypocrisy.
>Miss time I usually take morning dose of HRT by four hours
I feel so fucking stupid for being slightly worried about whatever damage this may have done to me even tho I know it's probably nothing.
Excuses, again. Do you REALLY want to go full time? Act like it, be a little crazy, go out of your comfort zone. Noone can force you to live your life, this isn't about being trans, this is about being an adult. Running from your problems has gotten you nowhere, it's time to face them.
>implying trans girls want each other for their dicks
Get lost, creep
>tfw will go without estrogen for two weeks soon
Do you know how to deal with bad feels when practicing voice then?
The thing that worries me the most about going full time is the place I live in because I could run into people I know but it's just more excuses I guess ;-;
>tfw you were at your tranny shrink and some transgirl was there in grilmode but with male voice
I wish I was this brave tbhon
>all transwomen are the same
maybe the ones who don't tolerate you don't tolerate chasers who are trans either.
or maybe trans couples aren't chasing eachother and genuinely like each other.
could be 'straight' male chasers have a 100% record of being horrible as you've proved yourself to be.
why would anybody tolerate you when you just called us losers with a fetish?
I would really like an answer.
It was alright, the trips could be fun. I kind of stopped giving a shit when I realized I was trans, what good is eagle on a resume if you're a girl, etc.
And I kind of regret going on the trip because of the expense tbqh, I would have a lot more saved up in case shtf and I get disowned, which will probably happen next year. It was cool though, scuba diving is really fun
What do you think your parent's would think about you spending time on an imageboard making fun of trannies from behind a computer screen? Do you think they'd be proud of you or disappointed?
Is listening to your own voice important when practicing?
It's the worst part tbhon since I can just listen to music otherwise.
why do people take obvious bait? if you ignore them they'll eventually go away
Well it sounds manly no matter what, not like i'll be able to hear any progress.
But I actually couldn't hear any progress the last times i've practiced.
No matter if I did chest voice or made it higher.
I practiced for longer than that though fgt
It just sounds boyish no matter what
Like a month?
I think you should be able to tell any difference and apparently my voice isn't even that deep.
Might be hugboxing though I dunno
Pitch is hard I guess?
Thank you I feel.like we got off on the wrong foot I don't dislike you in fact there is only one trip I dislike and that's between the two of us but I think I I got to know you and circumstances we're different we might even be friends.
I'm sorry to hear about your grandmother it really is the man was brilliant even worked for NASA it's such a shame.the best thing we can do is cherish the memories we have if them.
Thanks Angie it will probably be later on cause I'm still kinda shaken up at the moment.
>tfw impatient and hate not seeing any result
My imageboard app on my phone automatically does it.
>tfw you're reading rape erotica or hentai and the guy says "hurr durr you're wet, you must like it"
>tfw the heroine or narrative implies this is sound logic
Why are they ruining it?
>>tfw will go without estrogen for two weeks soon
Be especially careful about that; suddenly dropping estrogen may make you feel like shit in various ways (migraines, depression, etc.; you're basically going to be going through a sudden onset of menopause). I went without estrogen for about five days recently, it wasn't pleasant. Basically, just be prepared for possibly not feeling so great, be aware that if you get super depressed or dysphoric that it's probably hormone related and will reverse quickly when you start back on them, make sure to take care of yourself and make it through, okay?
i dont even like ham or seafood i'll pass thx. like ive seen you but i like to pretend ur filthy frank in my head it's funnier that way.
just shitposting, too much coffee and trying to ignore pain. sorry if you think ill of me now.
why would i? believe it or not, not everyone watches shitty anime.
>be aware that if you get super depressed or dysphoric that it's probably hormone related and will reverse quickly when you start back on them
It's okay, i'm like this every day.
>not being a transbian
I just post here because /tlg/ is way too slow these days.
What will give me the best result both mentally and physically? Patches or injections?
I'm fine with being a bit of a nutcase. Heck, feeling more emotion in my life can only be a good thing, since that was how I was in high school until I closed my heart and learned to carry my burdens.
At the same time I don't want to fry my endocrine system.
I've been here about five hours and only just ran out of work. So its a pretty good day. But I'm suppoed to be here for another two and a half hours. I'm fine with staying and i need the money, but i dont wanna stay if the boss doesnt need me, so I'll probably leave in half an hour.
Holy shit I've been got. Mobile device doesnt let me see how many images in thread.
Bear in mind that the ginger ladyboy is supposed to be actually attractive.
When linkin park comes on and I'm wearing my linkin park shirt i celebrate
Yea I'm actually pretty happy to get some exercise worked into my daily routine. Its really rewarding to exercise but i never do on my own time because it feels like a waste of time. You're not learning anything when you jog, you arent being entertained. Its just like, work. But it makes me feel better, idk why.
alright i already posted this in the wrong thread but whatever
>go to laser place for consultation
>expect like $100 per treatment for whole face since that's what you guys told me yours cost
>mfw she hands me the pricing pamphlet
without financing it was a $360 down payment, and the remaining balance due at the first treatment was $1400 or some shit
with 6 month, 0% interest financing it would have been like 300 bucks a month.
what the FUCK
looks like im not getting rid of this facial hair for another 3 or 4 years when i finish school and get a real adult job
>vicious, high-octane anon trolling
>kaylas fucking dick
Wew lad mtfg is fuckin juicy tonight
Sparky where are you, you owe me a letter and also prepare to be skyped next week
Oh, and uh, anyone wanna do dabs with an unpassing tranny in NYC next week? Taking a trip and im gonna have a lot of down time
Is finasteride something that doctors in the us prescribe alongside spiro and estro if you take the legit route? I've been thinking I should probably stop self medding
I got on it before regular hormones because I initially came to my doctor about balding. I haven't been taken off of it yet despite being on spiro+estradiol for about eight months; my doctor says it doesn't do much extra if you're already blocking all the testosterone through spiro, but I decided to wait to at least see that my testosterone levels actually are close to zero. They were last I checked but we haven't met again to discuss possible medication changes like dropping finasteride so I'll stay on it for now. I'll probably see about starting on minoxidil as well. If you're not balding you probably won't benefit from either of those, though.
i just contacted like 3 other places for consultations. one of them showed like $80 for 3 "parts" of the face, whatever that means and $150 for full face.
the other two sites didn't show prices but listed full face as a medium sized area.
facial hair is legit the only thing that bothers me, why can't it just go away with the girl pills.
Today went from extremely anxious, to triumphant and happy, and now it's extremely painful. Time to cry myself to sleep.
CAN'T WAKE UP
why's it painful ;~;
what happened ??
>finasteride as my only aa
Doesn't it just block a single variant of DHT? I guess if you're happy with the results you're getting that's fine, but there are a lot of variants of testosterone that will still be affecting you, right? (Maybe that's healthy, I don't know; cis females do have some testosterone, after all.)
I'm already dead though
crawling in my SKINN
@_____@ don't you usually use another AA + finastride?
That sounds like a pretty complete day of life, with all its ups and downs. Sleep well.
gotta catch me first : ' )
Hi elanna !!
how are u I just woke up uhm
We're still going strong.
No, I'm her gf.
Peace out for now.
I'm gud, stuck in class until 7:15 but we're learning the unity game engine so I guess it could be worse.
that sounds v fun actually
what classes are you taking this semester ??
It is so far, this semester is game dev heavy. So, game programming, game scripting (unity), databases, systems analysis, math and physics for games, and some corporate class. I think it will be good, although I'm kind of annoyed that we're using XNA in game programming.
Totally will, we have a lot of creative freedom in this class.
>Sparky where are you, you owe me a letter and also prepare to be skyped next week
I'm here, I'll send you a letter in a few days when I get back to school.
Also I might go to NYC over spring break in like march you should take another trip then
basically, but the tokens open up design space, some cards can change what is tapped, and cards can become double or triple tapped, if you were playing magic you'd use a counter to signify a "does not untap on next turn" anyway
it was ashes rise of the phoenix born