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i love you guys i have no friends but you make it ok
still makes me lol, but is it still an accurate representation?
I'm transmitting friendship to you through the internet presently.
Just ordered this jacket bcus dont have one and its -11 outside and will be even colder.
So annoyed though, didnt get it in deep navy blue since it was sold out :7
Good or bad buy?
You said a lot of things with that sweet voice of yours, but you know I'm fully intent on embarrassing you.
this pic is for you kiwi
Oh no, I'm not Cheska.
i know this probably isnt the best place to ask but idk where else, soooooooooo
anyone know a way of getting priced albums off bandcamp for free? :,D
For anyone wondering how voice surgery result sounded like before yeson
>this will never be you
Hello, my name is Zinnia. I manage a youtube channel where I talk about various trans related issues. I hope you will subscribe and if you have any questions please feel free to message me or leave a comment.
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>stealth transition for 6 months now
>at home for holidays with parents watching TV
>trailer for Le Ebin Trans Meme Movie starring Eddie Redmayne comes on
>"hahahahaha lol wtf look at that freak" / "omg who could ruin their body like that" etc. from my parents
>dad turns to me
>"anon what's the problem, you're not one of those nonces are you?"
>realise I'm visibly whole-body-cringing and trying not to look at the TV
>"o-of course not, what the fuck, who would ever want to humiliate themselves like that, right? it's disgusting!"
>parents seem satisfied, we go back to watching Shrek 2 or whatever
how long do you estimate before I have to come out? this is getting pretty uncomfortable, the other day my mum came inches from finding my HRT stash, urgh, but I know they won't be accepting and will make life a living hell for me
>tfw lying in bed last night imagining being spooned with a nice hard dick against my butt
>tfw brought myself to orgasm from the slightest of movements pretty much by accident and without using hands
>tfw nothing came out because HRT
>tfw no clean up and can keep lying there
>tfw fall asleep in the warm afterglow of female orgasm
HRT is pretty fucking ace
yeah I've not had enough growth for the boobs to be an issue but I keep almost outing myself by reacting awkwardly whenever trans stuff comes up on TV or wherever... especially when it's feelsy; if they'd seen me crying at the Louis Theroux documentary they'd have caught on for sure, for example
also they keep going on about how my mannerisms and stuff have gotten more girly and stuff, idk, that's subconscious on my part, I've not been trying to do that
i think you just get more emotionally expressive on estrogen and mannerisms are part of that.
i was watching myself walk in a reflection the other day and realized how fucking faggy i look.
Let me fill in that post for you senpai.
It so does. Work on it, but remember to factor in allowable couch-surfing rotations. Hopefully things work out, but having time to finish your (present) semester and make your financial situation viable is an essential part of coming out trans unless you're sure of your parents' positive reactions.
What's the best shade of brown tho.
It's not that it doesn't work for older people, older transitioners just start from a much worse position physically to ever pass. Some cis women take estrogen replacement as they age to minimize some of the effects of menopause.
I'm 37 and HRT hasn't worked too bad for me. Pretty much lifted five years from the age people think I am. And given I've seen it work the same for older women, I'd think that if I get FFS and manage to keep up with proper skincare, I'll keep looking in my thirties for the next couple decades.
Don't let the femboys, transtrenders and sundry fetishists who push the idea around, being trans isn't something you choose. Tried my best to be male for years, but in the end, I transitioned even as I had given up the idea for a long while since I realized I'd never pass reliably as my officially assigned gender.
>be at work
>go to bathroom
>bra tears in half at the middle
Nope. Just couldn't pass as a guy. My last ex didn't believe being trans was something else than a pretending game, and even though I tried my best, in the end she dumped me because I made her doubt her sexual orientation. She said that even though she loved me, being in bed with me felt like doing it with a woman and she couldn't see herself as a lesbian. That pretty much was the eye opener for me. And since I had been teetering on the brink of occupational burnout for a few years anyway, I just threw away the male mask to breathe a bit. Did work.
It was a vs bombshell. About $42
Had it for about a year
Nah, tried to transition when I was 18, was gatekept hard and had very fucked-up but non trans-related things happen in my life so I was distracted from it by worse issues. Went full time back in 2014 because I really needed a breather and that was one of the last options I still hadn't thoroughly tried.
First day of ID controls at Swedish border is going good, the Danes just announced they are closing the german border for refugees because of these Swedish ID checks. Which now stop refugees at the border and at the ferries they try to sneak into the country with, meaning they are sent the fuck back to Denmark and they dont want em either.
[Sabaton music plays in background]
I did for a year, but since the last push that got me to transition was that I was burning out real fast at work, I set myself on a course for a disability pension. Some inconvenience along the way, like spending a year at a clinic, but I'm fine with retiring at 41 with a 25 k€/year pension on account of melancholic depression.
France deported gypsies a few years ago.
And Schengen is brilliant so long as the government doesn't tell millions of people they're welcome, because I can imagine it's a nightmare for anyone who frequently travels between Sweden and Denmark.
42 doesn't seem like that much for an article of clothing you wear every other day for years. To be honest I'd say that's far too little to spend on something that's supposed to last and that can be very uncomfortable if it gets too worn out. I don't make much money at all but imo a well fitting bra is something that should be splurged on.
I'll give you a hint, it's the gayest country in the world.
Anyone else got their female privilege card yet? Mine came in the mail today. Feels good.
Where in Sweden is none of your business.
>i might consider moving to malmo
Just stay away from the brown people, if it's even possible in Malmö where literally half of the population is beginning to be non-swedish. Malmö is also literally the first city refugees come to from Denmark so I really cant recommend Malmö, its just a shithole.
You're better off just avoiding Sweden completely, move to Denmark or Norway.
Well, to be precise, I was diagnosed with melancholia, i.e. impossible to cure depression, along with PTSD. Got to see a shrink after a very spectacular interrupted suicide and a trip to the ER. All in all, everyone treats me like a live grenade, shrinks don't want my eventual death pinned on them and my employer doesn't want a PR disaster either, so I'll be discharged on medical grounds in about 4 years, with disability as a poor man's golden parachute.
So I'm starting a Skype group for mtfg. Anyone that's cool with Skype want in?
well i was more wondering if you were close to malmo enough to have experienced in to make a fair call. it's a tie between copenhagen and malmo i'd say. malmo seems pretty diverse and it's a young city from what i've read so why don't i add to the number there? i don't have a problem with refugees, but i understand if you do. i get it, the situation can be questionable to a lot of the natives.
Well, not exactly, I'm on an extended medical leave with full wages for those next years. Won't be working in the meantime. Besides, I get to stay all expenses paid at a really nice rehab clinic until all the paperwork is done.
i have a fascination with the nordic culture. my mother is from helsinki. it might sound a bit baffling to you, but i have a strong affinity for that part of the world although i have never even been there.
How many of you here pass or come close to it without putting tons of effort into making yourself presentable? i.e no makeup, doing nothing special to your hair other than maybe ponytail, t shirt + jeans, etc.
>maybe you don't understand how good you have it and you take it for granted.
You have bought into the false notion of a Swedish utopia. I dont blame you, it's a myth our socialist have falsely propagated since world war 2.
hey the uk pound is going strong, you must be doing something right over there. i have never been to europe. i have a sister who's in france now. i would like know a bit more about your experience in stockholm, if it's alright
What do I say to those people who view Sweden as a socialist utopia/heaven on Earth?
I'm starting to pass. I get gendered female 50% of the time probably? I don't put a whole lot of effort into my dress or hair from day to day, mostly just enjoy looking casual and feeling comfy.
I'm stealth at a clinic, can't get much worse when it comes to constant scrutiny, so I'm 100% secure about my passing. I don't wear much makeup, usually just liner and rimmel, but I definitely overdress every day, simply because I can. I reckon I'd still pass in jeans and t-shirts. It's just that I like the special treatment my outfits garner me.
well i wanted to do a little experiment where i post what one considers as not being completely obnoxious to how people actually perceive it. everything i am writing is a c&p or a pastiche of what they have said already in a very similar debate, for fairness
When I used to work as a service girl I got gendered as a girl constantly (even when speaking in guy voice in a very conservative country) but I also get weird looks from time to time.
I also don't wear makeup most of the time. Still wish I could pass better though.
I can pass with no voice and guy clothes, but it's because people are blind and dumb.
>stop worrying if you pass or not
This is equivalent to when your parents say "stop worrying if you're a girl or not, you don't need to transition"
I don't care if I pass to other people I just wish I could roll out of bed and look in the mirror and see a girl without trying so hard
I thought someone with an affinity to Finland would know a bit more about them.
Finns are not Nordic as they 1) Do not speak a Nordic language, they speak a Finnish which is a Finno-Ugric language and more closely related to Hungarian than Nordic languages.
2) They are not even ethnically nordic (with the exception of a Swedish population living in the nation)
to be fair i have more of a fascination for denmark and sweden. and i admittedly need to know a lot more about the details. i have an online Finnish friend and it seems like my questions of this nature do not always come across as curious but offensive to her. my mom was born in helsinki, but she left very little and doesn't really keep in touch with her heritage unfortunately
You could always google Finnish history
Though it's kinda boring till you get to WW2 where they actually do something.
You're probably better off looking into Denmark and Sweden as you said before, they're a lot more interesting.
I'd say srs, but I don't think even that's true, as you can live full time as a woman, and still do shit like kill yourself during your 4th genital surgery, trying to implant a uterus, like lili Elbe
Found some trans specific dating site
>I'm just a normal man who likes pretend that he is a woman
>I like anime, cat ears, school uniforms
>I love put dresses and skirts
And many others
No wonder everyone is gatekeeping here where I live.
because you acted exactly how my Finnish friend does when i try to talk to her about Finland, getting all sperg on me with your minor details and what is and what isn't truly nordic which leads me to mute her
We're getting closer and closer everyday. I did research on it in my undergrad and it's pretty amazing how much progress has been made on brain controlled robotics in the last 10 years or so.
I wanna go back to school and research robotic prosthetics for a phd, it's a pretty cool field
Right, in real life she died in her 50s loving full time, on her 4th surgery, trying to implant a uterus, and her wife had left her and remarried by then.
Movie version she dies at 29 just trying to get srs (which she had successfully) with her wife by her side, with the heavy implication that she rushed the surgery early when she was too weak.
Has anyone ever tried using body adhesive to tuck rather than relying on it just staying in place with tight panties?
Tape always leaves residue, but still slips. >_<
I'm mostly asking because it would make leggings and really short skirts and shorts easier to wear :3
I bought some sock glue from Sock Dreams and it's holding my socks up so well I kinda want to try to apply it to other areas... I'm iffy about smearing adhesive all around my sensitive areas tho
Swedes and Finns owe that entirely to people who were basically spics. Without raping and pillaging their way through civilized peoples south of them they'd still be living in muddy huts and banging stones for fun, along with all other germanic, slavic and steppe peoples.
>I just use two panties when I need to wear stuff like that
Two panties works for shorts and skirts pretty well 99% of the time for me...
Not for leggings though. I like to wear thongs to prevent panties lines and I always have to wear like 3 to tuck with thongs and it's still not perfect. What brand do you wear?
You've proven my point
I shall stop replying now
Have a nice day
Yea, sorry to disappoint. There's only like three black girls here i think.
See, this is my problem. Theres plenty of good looking guys on okc who look at my profile, but they just want sex. And then theres kinda gross guys who would probably forego sex or whatever else to have a relationship, and would value me.
But, i have high standards and I'm not dating anyone i think is ugly.
I watched a video where someone cut up a couple pairs of nylon hose and layered them in a way that it was invisible under leggings but still supported a tuck tightly enough. I don't have a link but you might be able to search around and find more about it.
THAT is what children do. they get extremely upset when someone says something that doesn't align with what they want to hear, or they simply take any opportunity to start shit. when not getting or warranting positive attention, you're trying to validate yourself by talking about how you don't need this or that. this shit always gets so much worse around the holidays because people get so much more depressed and angry about their lives which is why i'm going to say i hope you're doing well. i do hope you had a merry christmas and all that.
I'll try spanx shapewear, thanks!
And if anyone has any suggestions for thongs I'd really appreciate it... it seems like most thongs are made with comfort in mind (so they're super loose/stretchy, even when xs), which isn't conducive to tucking.
The best drugs to kill dysphoria with are hormones, Anon. <3
>Implying it's not okay
>Actively trying to shame people for their fetishes on 4chan of all places
Careful I might just rip your head off with my strong manly hands full of pumped up testosterone fueled veins!
I'm just looking through my childhood photos and I noticed something. My skull started to changing around 8yo so there was no chance for me anyway.
It makes me feel more at ease knowing that my fate was written 20 years ago.
Are you sure you haven't just lost weight?
I weigh 127 I was mayyyybe like 130 when I started. I don't think that would have had a visual impact. I actually considered trying to gain 20 lbs to smooth everything out I don
t know how to hide the ribcage.
Just curious as to whether anyone on /mtfg/ is into cosplay or lolita?
I'm getting into gothic lolita but there's no real scene or communities anywhere near me.
Hmm I dunno then. Conventional wisdom says that HRT doesn't cause significant bone changes, but there's all sorts of weird anecdotes online, and bone density does change over a person's lifetime. There are also a lot of muscles in your abdomen that could've shrunk. Maybe there was a small change? DESU the best way to know would have been to measure yourself before and after.
Start taking measurements now! I did before I started HRT and I've kept up with them. I don't get dysphoria anymore, but when I was a couple years in it was nice to have real, concrete evidence of how much it has really changed me. I found uncertainty to be bothersome... 'did I change? Or am I imagining it?', or on really bad days, 'Omg these hormones have done nothing I'm so ugly and manly'.
This is a really good idea thank you. I have really been bad about pictures too. I think I might have taken like 3 pictures in 6 months lol. Do you just use a tailor tape measure or something?
So yeah I'm starting a Skype group for mtfg for all the girls that's tired of all the cat fighting and want a non hostile place to hang out and chat. Anyone want in?
This is a long story I got 3 proposals.
Forehead, Chin, Jaw, Adams apple,
Forehead, Chin, Jaw, Adams apple, nose
And everyone around me (family, friends) would tell me not to do anything and that I look fine (even here people tell me I look fine)...
So I went with forehead because for me it's most dysmorphic part of my face.
Next will be my VFS and since I'm naturally at 170Hz and 200Hz is easy for me I should land in 220Hz.
I could try that. its been a month or two since I've had a boy buy me food.
nothing really I'm just tryna decide what to do today. probs go outside for the day because theres snow on the ground and I want fresh air.
what do you do for fun? aside from banter with anon.
you have zero self-awareness
Whenever you feel comfortable wearing a bra they come in all sizes
I'd say get cheap bras from like Target until you're sure your boobs have stopped growing because otherwise you'll be wasting a lot of money
I know a lot of nicer stores like VS have good deals right now tho. I think La Senza has an $8.99 bra deal
fuck off loser with a capital L! Why don't you GET A LIFE!
It sounds like that pre-transition, testosterone anger. :(
Poor Clarissa needs titty skittles stat
for fun, i'll go for a run today. i'm digesting before i go. long runs are my thing, it's therapeutic. you headed anywhere specifically or just going for a lil stroll people watching?
Are you full-time? If not something like a quality, thick undershirt would be a better idea.
Sports bras compress a little and it's best to avoid compression for the first couple years as much as possible. You don't want to squash your brand new boobies
>you sound resentful that you arent stewing and brewing
>Are you full-time?
nopes :c I am boy mode grossness. However boob growth has kind of surprised me. I was thinking taking hormones would take a bit longer to effect me (not that I am complaining) but my lifestyle has not quite caught up yet to the changes.
Oh that's really interesting. Sounds like you're going to be pretty busy lol. I can't imagine going through surgery recovery that many times.
Did he give you pricing during those consults and do you mind sharing?
>And everyone around me (family, friends) would tell me not to do anything and that I look fine
God that's the worst, iktf kinda. Cis people just don't get it.
There's a girl at work who I'm pretty sure is transgender. How do I talk to her about me being trans too without insulting her? I don't think saying "you're visibly trans" is a good idea, or she might just be an unfortunately masculine girl. Should I just keep my mouth shut?
If you want to talk to her about being trans come out to her as if you have no idea she's trans.
If she is trans and wants to admit it she can be all 'omg me too', and if she is cis or wants to pretend to be cis, she can do so.
Yeah I'm probably not going to ever say anything it's too much of an awkward situation.
I'd rather not out myself, my managers don't even know I'm trans.
What if she doesn't have one?
Just a work friend, I don't speak to her outside of work so not very well.
Yeah it would be nice to have someone irk outside of doctors and therapists to talk about stuff