/SRSgen/

Going to Brassard and Bélanger on the 25th. Starting to get nervous. Seeing pictures that only show the results not too long post-op hasn't helped.

Probably Chettawut. I've seen a few in person and after that Suporn horror story from /cd/ and the hideous realself one (http://i.imgur.com/0kQ10av.jpg) from him , I figure the chances of getting a good or bad result are about even between the two.

>>5470235
Are you sure that realself one is from Suporn?

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some context for some of these photos would really go a long way

oh god i can't stand this gore. i am staying a penised freak forever i guess

>>5470246
Yes
https://www.realself.com/review/chonburi-thailand-gender-reassignment-surgery-srs

sometimes I think this might be the staw that breaks me.
to op or to not op, either option has drawbacks.
I don't even know where to begin with researching surgeons.
I've never felt more alone.

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>>5470235
could be worse. to be honest, i don't think any surgeon can really guarantee 100% satisfactory results in all cases when it comes to cutting up penises to make neovaginas no matter how skilled they may be. i know it's appealing to think of SRS as a procedure that with enough money and research you can get a fantastic result, but it's still very real surgery with many variables, including the individual's body and biology. it isn't always going to be perfect; that doesn't mean the surgeon didn't do the procedure properly

>>5470235
Nope nope nope
That solves it. Stem cells or none for me. Plus I have an aggressive circumcision so all I have left is basically hairy ball skin which is disgusting

>>5470314
Horrifying.

>>5470514
What? Make an MS paint diragram of what an aggressive circumcise is....

>>5470460
I know that, I'm just saying it due to the gross Chett vagina in the OP link

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>>5470885
It's when they cut a lot of the proper penis skin so most of the skin on the shaft is actually ball skin that got pulled up.

god this is all so terrifying... just when I thought I'd made my peace with being trans here's another thing to be scared about. vaginas are so disgusting wtf

>>5470909
How does that work? Does the scrotal skin just stretch upwards?

>>5470980
Pretty much. IT's done on really young children with no hair so scrote and penis skin are a bit less distinct so as the kid grows up they find out that that's just highriding scrote skin .

>>5470974
>>5470877
>>5470354
>>5470278
I just try to ignore the details, I remember the results are what matters. Finally having genitals I like will be much better.

>>5470226
Not going to post pics but I've recently seen two friends' two years healed results. A cis friend commented that it looked almost exactly like hers.

>>5471082
Are you sure your friend is cis?

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>>5470885
This, essentially. The raphe is also quite torn up and mangled, as is the urethra
It's also my completely speculative idea that this damaged my brain and was one contributing cause to my future gender issues

WTF happened in the assard pictures?
I have quiete a hard time to put them in order,

>>5471119
You'd be shocked at how wide of range of shapes natural pussies have.

>>5471147
>It's also my completely speculative idea that this damaged my brain and was one contributing cause to my future gender issues
I doubt it.

>>5471119
100% sure.

>>5471156
She had mild complications at three months which sadly has more to do with the aftercare doc than Brassard since she lived pretty far from Montreal.

>>5471167

This is what mild looks like? o.O

>>5471185
Well, okay probably not that mild, but complications that are easy to deal with.

>>5471158
Well idk how either of their 3 pussies looked.

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>>5471185
It's just tons of necrosis but doesn't look like it's anywhere particularly important.

>>5471082
That's reassuring. Some better pictures could definitely be added to the Brassard album... I think Mia Fever went there?

Why would anyone do this to their bodies?

>>5470174
this butchery is just awful.

tgirls are cute with dicks. not with some mutilated meat between their legs.

>>5471902
>I'm totally not like all the other chasers, I swear. Oh btw did you know I liked your girly penis.

>>5471902
>My fetish is more important than your wellbeing
fucking kek m'gentleman

>>5471800
Yeah, Mia Fever did.

>>5471883
Because its presence is abnormal on a woman?

anything is better than having a penis
too bad I will never be able to afford srs. I am trying to get my state insurance to cover bowers but i dunno if they will. So far I like bowers work, more function vs looks but labiaplasty is like $3,500 so its not so bad

>>5470174
>http://imgur.com/a/ihDCg
the assard ones are all out of order and so i dont know if everything ended up working out alright

>>5472109
stop being all high and mighty and just find a "chaser" to love you and your penis

>>5472163
>stop being all high and mighty
What are you on about? That was my first post in this thread what was so high and mighty about it? I hate my male genitals so much I have tried to melt it off with chemicals, injected my balls with alcohol, and even slammed my dong in a drawer the other day to the point my whole groin is bruised. I just want a vagina, I don't care how it looks I am sick of being a boy.

>>5470174
>Suporn uses healed up pornbrushed vaginas
>Western surgeons
>literally straight out of surgery pictures

The meme is strong in this one.

>>5470235
I went to a UK surgeon (thus had a technique that many of the Suporn/Thai fangirls would call "old and outdated") and my vagina looks so much better than that realself one.

>>5472203
Brassard doesn't post pics himself (he also doesn't really advertise much unlike the Thais; I agree Chet, Suporn and Kunaporn are okay, but Suporn definitely has a weird way of measuring depth, and he definitely doesn't show his 50yo hons). You need to have an appointment for consult to get to see some and afaik they're all from during the 2 weeks he keeps patients in.

>>5472214
Most of the Suporn fangirls mistakenly assume all the Thais do the same thing; the Chonburi organ is a suporn-only "innovation" that I have no idea what he decided to start this shit for, while scrotal grafts deep down are a thing that a lot if not most surgeons worldwide do when you check their surgery documentation.

Suporn's meme status is like 5 years old. There was a time when he was a cut rate surgeon.

I wish Saskatchewan's SRS coverage was less shit. We need to get with the free SRS program that most of Canada has. >_<

>>5472237
I thought it was covered completely in every province now? What's the actual coverage? I'm only familiar with Quebec's and BC's.

>>5472197
its confirmed, gender dysphoria is a mental retardation

>>5472320
So? I am happier being a girl now.

>>5472295
It's not covered in New Brunswick, I'm not sure it's covered in Nova Scotia, and SK and Newfoundland used to rely on CAMH, so I'm not sure what they have now that Zucker got fired.

>>5472295
They cover 30-40% or so I've been told, but since Brassard is the person all of Canada goes to we go on the same waiting list. We also have to go to CAMH in Toronto or Calgary to receive a referral (unless something has changed in the last year)... there's no one in province who will do the referral.

>paying more
>waiting even longer

I'm hoping the job I start soon has health insurance that covers the rest of SRS. >_<

I think Newfoundland also doesn't fund SRS.

>>5472365
>we go on the same waiting list
CAMH's two year waiting list isn't Brassard's waiting list; other provinces have waiting lists of a few months at most.

>>5472398
I know CAMH's isn't Brassard's, but doesn't Brassard have his own waiting list? I meant we have to go on Brassard's waiting list with everyone else but we're paying out of pocket... it sucks.

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Hey fags, I got the SRS with McGinn a couple months ago. I wouldn't have gone with anyone else if I had to do it again. Everything's cool, healing fine, orgasmic after <6 weeks, looks pretty normal, dilation and depth are good, and bottoms all fit like they should now.

I like to drop in to these threads in case anyone has specific questions. I feel like it's important since there's so much shit information and shitty results out there. It was always good for me to talk to people my age (non-hons, non-olds) who had a positive experience.

>>5472496
It always makes me sad that McGinn and Meltzer don't get covered because imo they're significantly better than Bowers at what they do.

>>5472496
How nice was it when you pulled on panties and pants for the first time and didn't have to tuck or worry about the bulge, etc.?

Do you ever get dysphoria over your genitals anymore or does it really go away completely once it's healed?

>>5472496
are you agp? does not having a dick/having a cunt turn you on now?

>>5470174
So what's "granulation" ? (in the pic). That sounds kinda gross...

>>5472638
It's just overhealed tissue (ironically). It's easy to deal with but annoying.

>>5472638
Like the other poster said, it's an overgrowth of healing tissue but it actually stops the place it grows from healing properly/fully. It's red, sore, raised, bleeds easily and makes a disgusting yellow discharge which people will commonly mistake for being pus from an infection.

It can happen with all surgeries but it likes to happen in srs particularly because it's warm and moist (cis girls who get a hysterectomy are prone to getting it inside their vagina as well for the same reason) and will appear on a suture line.

It's treated most commonly with silver nitrate which literally burns it off, however it can take multiple treatments.

>>5472514
Insurance covered the hospital upfront and is supposed to be reimbursing me a bunch of the cost. I'm in Illinois, and I think the laws here are why I didn't have to do anything special to get it approved.

>>5472515
So nice. The first time was before the 1000 mile drive home. There was that "holy shit" moment when I realized all I had to do was pull on some pants, button, and zip.

I had trouble staying tucked due to a varicose vein, so I would always wear two pairs of underpants and bike shorts that were two sizes smaller than normal. This setup could show through on the legs of my jeans, and it pushed what little fat I have upwards to ruin the slight waist definition I had.

>>5472627
Dunno, I mean it's definitely exciting knowing I have what I consider the right parts now. But it's not like that's what I get off to, or like I look in a mirror to turn myself on. It's more like when I'm aroused, I like the idea of having the right parts while being with someone and having sex. So if that's in your definition of AGP, then yes.

In sex fantasy/ scenarios while you have a dick, I think you almost have to be "AGP". At least I never imagined myself as a girl with a dick in my sex thoughts, it was always as if I had the V. Not that you can't be trans if you don't want the surgery.

Did anyone here get their srs from dr. schaff in munich ?
I heard he's the best srs surgeon in europe and almost everyone who went there likes the result
But i've never seen any pictures

>>5470235
>after that Suporn horror story from /cd/
Is there a screencap or copypasta or something?
Just the pictures without context aren't as informative about such a fucking disgusting excuse for a cunt.

Officially horrified of getting SRS, thanks OP.

Maybe having a tiny useless dick ain't so bad after all.

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>>5475618
Thread's still up, not posting the rest of her replies since they go along with nsfw pictures.

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>>5476619
cept this one is worth posting

I'm getting an orchi around April or May. People keep telling me this will fuck up SRS, is there any truth to this?

>>5476655
Somewhat. If you want to go to someone like Suporn or Chett who only do scrotal-inlay type SRS they will likely not operate.

If you go to a decent western surgeon they probably won't mind. The best thing to do would be to email the various surgeons you like and ask them directly since it'll be different for each one.

>>5470174
>Brassard

this is a gore folder, i am cringing so hard

>>5476672
Its not like I am getting the sack cut off, just the balls.

>>5476619
>>5476632
Wow, I think that settles it for me. I'm gonna settle for an orchi and keep my penis.

>>5476678
without the balls to stretch it the sack shrinks and shrivels up really fast

>>5472091
Who's mia fever? Is she in the album I can add her to brassards.

>>5476690
I doubt that, plus I would stretch it with my hands sometimes if needed.

>>5476619
>>5476632
Can you link to it? I just went through 9 pages and couldn't find it myself.

>>5476678
Do you know how they reach the balls? By cutting up the sack. If you don't ask them to do it the correct way there will be a big scar on skin they'll want to use.

>>5476701
I doubt that too but some surgeons will still say no if you've had an orchi so it's still best to ask them.

>>5476723
Nevermind, found it. That's truly horrific. It makes me think "wow i'm glad i stayed inland with the 'old outdate'" for mine but really that could happen to anyone. Though even with the necrosis clit the visual result 2.5 years post-op is just awful, it looks like that realself one but without the huge clit. It basically looks like a scrotum without the balls and penis.

>>5476695
She's a porn star. Look up something along the lines of "Mia Fever post op" on google and you'll find pictures. Also the pictures should probably be labeled; a folder filled with just disgusting images right after the surgery without actually explaining that that's not the intended result is pretty misleading.

>>5476767
I'll try to label them more but for the most part I don't have much information on the vast majority of them.

>>5476774
Someone earlier in the thread said the one in the Brassard folder had complications during the months after the surgery. I think if you wanna show people a comparison of surgeons, you should stick to healed, final results even if they're harder to find. We all know it looks gross right after the surgery, what's important is if it's worth it. Showing gory unhealed pictures isn't very informative.

please dont mutilate your bodies guys

>>5476866
said every chaser ever

>>5476872
Correction: please don't mutilate your bodies. Except for you Kayla, you deserve to suffer.

>>5472067
>My wellbeing involves being physically, sexually mutilated.

Toppest kek

>>5476767
Also afaik unlike Danielle Fox, she didn't need work done on hers for cosmetics.

Oh, also the /cd/ horror story used to give me fucking nightmares. Thankfully for Brassard, the worst I keep hearing of is shit like the inner labias fusing and the hood requiring touch ups, which is easily fixed.

I know Chet had a few fistulas, have never heard anything negative about McGinn, etc.

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>>5476764
>>5477161
that /cd/ story is bad but the rest of the thread is bretty gud. at least 2 people in there had a good time getting srs, she's just the exception

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>>5476795
I'm not doing that I'm just trying to collect all the images of surgery i can and separate them by surgeon if i can.

I might make a curated folder sometime.

>>5477161
I think that's a misrepresentation. She had to get hers done in two steps to get it to look that way because that's how brassard does it. Danielle Foxx get hers retouched up after which is essentially two steps too.

Either way you need to go to the doctor twice to get it to look good. The only difference is how much effort they put into making it look cis the first way through. Doesn't matter much in the end imo.

>>5478947
>that's how brassard does it
Haven't heard a single thing about that and it's not mentioned anywhere in the pre-op information Brassard sends people, so I'll need some sauce.

>>5477222
Girl!Arin looks like Willow.

>>5478998
>tfw will never pass as well as arin.

>>5470314
Oh, I cringed :( I know vags come in lots of shapes and sizes, but not those shapes and sizes :(

>>5470174
wow the suporn vags look great, but all of the other ones disgust me and have scared me enough to not get Srs

>>5479119
Don't hurt me anon.

>>5479254
None of them are really a good representation of what those surgeons can do.

>>5479493
What is then?

>>5480332
probably something even worse, considering that you never see these great results people claim to have

Are there any doctors you can go to who'll just straight up chop your dick off instead of turning your crotch inside out? I hate having a penis but this shit is horrific.

>>5470980
Given how labioscrotal fusion forms a scrotum in utero and Suporn using non-analagous tissue in such a way, it always makes me feel even weirder abt the look. Looking at the introitus or whatev the proper parlance, it likerally looks like how Johnny Cage would perform SRS, like your scrotum got punched up inside of you.

I know it's the stretchiest tissue and therefore in ideal circumstances produces the best results for depth or whatev; and there is no analagous tissue left for a vagina, only a vulva. It always makes me wonder why they don't focus more on better more anatomically normal looking and feeling results with some sort of developed vulvoplasty. When I google it all I find it is some procedure they do on dogs and doesn't seem to be what I'm looking for.

A vagina would be nice, but the disfigurement of having all the junk is kindof primary for me. Enough of us don't have sex, I really only enjoy sex through my clothes already. It would be just more of the same until whether laboratory cultured scivag ever happens for trans women.

I'll prob take whatever insurance gives me to be rid of this mess; but I wish there were less of the obsessive focus on "one stage" procedures (likely an artefact of how it has been controlled by how medical tourism tries to market itself most favourably for so long) and more realistic focus that most people would at least probably benefit from some form of second stage labiaplasty like how they used to do.

It would be nice, but I'm not obsessed with intromissive sex. I hate anal and while this would be an alternative, I'm 31, I already pity the men attracted to me. I prefer women anyway, but I'm unmotivated and don't like being open abt that since it's such a politicised orientation. I just want to be less disfigured; to not have any terrible visit to the emergency ward be even worse; to not be humiliated or endangered for passing through scanners with an aberrant crotch attempting to board a flight or cross a border.

>>5478947
Brassard doesn't do two-step.

>>5480332
Something that's actually had the time to heal, for one.

>>5480684
That shit is just out of surgery. The Brassard pics are literally just the first three months. I've seen cis tier results out of him but they all looked like a bleeding Picasso the first few months.

>>5472514
I had Meltzer covered in full through kaiser, though I am from california and kaiser is about the most progressive insurance there is here.

I'm really happy with the results from stage one, but I am rather disappointed with some of the stage two labiaplasty. At first it looked great with labia minora etc, but then it healed and the definition of the labia was lost. The clitoral hood came out great though.

>>5472398
Yeah, how many people can Brassard do a day? In Ontario, it's hundreds on the waiting list and they want to expand the referrals so it isn't all through CAMH. Apparently the wait can be years. Apparently the place where you recover is weird, but I wasn't expecting it not to be. That's relatively minor if realistically we don't even have him or any other surgeons still available.

Realistically, they're going to have to start covering other surgeons, training them, full research into this branch of urogenital surgery and medicine before they re-elect conservatives who will just de-fund it anyway. That's provided the Liberals keep funding it. It's been made a fad of late, given pop culture's current fascination; but didn't the NDP, the nominal left, de-list SRS coverage in Manitoba?

>>5480938
>Yeah, how many people can Brassard do a day?
Maybe 3-4 considering they're two surgeons in tandem with a massive nursing staff.

>of late
SRS was listed in most provinces in the last 5 years, well before it became a public facing fad. Also afaik a lot of the delistings were due to CAMH being the only way, even though it's stupid.

Also CAMH's hundreds backlog would be a lot shorter if they didn't reject 80% of applications. I have 100% binary acquaintances in Toronto who got rejected for petty, nitpicky bullshit despite showing up with diagnoses from respected psychs.

>>5480938
The surgery only takes him and Belanger (They're two in the operating room) two hours. It takes longer if you add stuff like BA or whatever, but in general, they can do a few SRS surgeries a day. They're not just an SRS clinic though, they have other stuff to do. All in all, I've heard they do about 200 SRS operations per day.

>>5481379
per year*, though I guess that was fairly obvious.

>>5480938
I don't know if things have changed, but I live in Manitoba and got SRS through Brassard just two weeks shy of a year ago and it was completely covered, even the flight was covered. There were girls there from BC, Alberta, Ontario and Quebec and all of them were covered.

They do the surgery in groups, he could do even more if he wanted to but the thing is there's very limited space in the trans-only recovery house (they do all sorts of surgeries, but there's a special house just for trans patients). So the people who get surgery have to finish healing and be sent home before the new group can get the surgery and go into the house.

My group was six girls, he did three in one day and three the next day. There were also some trans men but they got top surgery and weren't in the house for as long.

>>5480975
lol BrASSard is an amateur Suporn wannabe. What an idiot. Dr. Suporn can do 6-7 GCS per day. It's because of the superior Chonburi Flap technique that he developed while white surgeons were still in the stone age. baka how desperate do you have to be to accept a "surgeon" like BrASSard, and besides, you get to experience the amazing Thai culture while you're over there, it's practically a vacation. lol some people never learn I guess.

>>5481570
Lol get a load of this weabo

>>5481647
kek the baka in there was s/m/h, but moot's weeb filters changed it. don't flatter yourself

Oh lord, why is the "Suporn girls" thing still alive? Keep it to middle aged hons.

>>5482432
They need to reassure themselves that they went to the best place and do it by trying to reinforce the notion that all other places suck. Kinda like parents who think their way of raising their child is the #1 only valid way to do it.

>>5480684
Chett and Suporn offer it but it would look just as horrific but without a vag.

>>5484493
Brassard does SRS without the vaginal cavity as well, usually for older patient who don't want to deal with dilation and won't be having intercourse.

>>5480823
By vulvoplacty do you mean labiaplasty because that's the actual name of what they do to the outside part of your vagina. The vulva is included in Labiaplasty. I agree it would be nice if there was more focus on Labiaplasty instead of Vaginoplasty but it doesn't seem like that's where the demand is.

The eastern style of having on surgery is less about 'medical tourism' and more about reduction of harm since most doctors prefer to put patents under as few times as possible. Both chett and Suporn are more than happy and recommend sometimes to get a second labiaplasty without going under. Two steps after all is the only possible way to create a fourchette since otherwise you'd destory it through extreme dilating

>>5481570
Funny but Suporn actually only ever does one surgery a day so the circle jerk is 'who would wanna be the 3rd surgery of the day?'

>>5484510
Good to know. Anyone know if McGinn or Meltzer offer it?

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>>5484556
I can't follow the conversation, but wanna add that McGinn does free revisions on her patients. Most she can do in the office without putting you under. She says about 10% go for the revision.

>>5484750
Yeah most of the SRS surgeons offer that.

Is it true, Suporn had counselors that are pretty much rubber stamps? I want bottom surgery, but I don't care to change my appearance /name or the way I present socially.

>>5485319
I believe he has one to get the second recommendation, you still have to get the first.

I don't believe id ever be "passable" and prefer not to walk around looking obviously manly. Id be happy with a little androgynous body, with a vagina. But the real life experience would be horrific.

>>5485390
A therapists definition of full time can vary greatly.
A lot of therapists deal 90% with old hons, so basically all you have to do it look remotely more passable than them and they'll basically give you a stamp of approval. I had a therapist who wanted to give me the recommendation and get straight to SRS when I was like 2 months on hormones, because I had looked so much better than the rest of the trans people she dealt with and thought I was fulltime trying to get SRS

That sounds pretty cool. Hush I have no problem being a "guy", I just know I wouldn't make a passable girl.and I'd lose my job and stuff pulling that card. I just don't st why I have to go through the reAL life experience, when I dont intend to live as a woman

>>5485473
Because nobody beleievs you wont regret getting your dick chopped.

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>>5485456
>Eastern Europe
>First visit at sexologist office
>"Name."
>Caroline
>"Last name", "id number", and other data...
>"So Caroline what I can help you with"
>Well I'm transgender and I want to transit....
>"Wait? What is your name again?"
>err
>"In your ID are you male or female"?
>m-male
>"So why are you giving me incorrect info I thought you were female"
>"Also don't tell anyone you are transgender in public any more it's retarded, people will associate you with those weirdos in drag that I have to deal with daily"
>"What you have, is gender dysphoria and since you look like a female already I guess there is no arguing here. Have you been talking anything?"
>Spiro 200mg, estrofem 4mg
>"Haha for real? Spiro? How long?"
>2 years
>Then he gave me, prescription for 50 mg cypro, 6mg estrofem, some estro gel on my boobs.
>"See ya in a 3 months, bye."
>MFW

>>5485951
Your shrink sounds like an idiot desu sempai

Also
>estro gel but not prometrium
This is almost as bad as south american endos who give you a course of five different meds including ethinylestradiol-based BC for no apparent reason other than being hipsters.

>>5487430
He is too old for being a hipster

>>5488718
>too old for being a hipster
I mean, Kerouac would be in his 90s, technically

>>5477222

I don't like this post, it's pretty disgusting TO BE HONEST simply because plenty of SRS don't turn out great, don't try to sweep it under the rug and say "oh that's the only bad one ITT". WHAT ABOUT ALL THE OTHER SHITTY VAGINAS IN THE WORLD HUH?

SRS is a enormous huge life changing gamble, it might work out for you or it might not but don't make it seem like it's "lol okay she's the exception go get your vagina"

Plently of cis girls LOVE to post their vags on the internet but very little trans girls do. THINK ABOUT IT.

THINK

ABOUT

IT.

>>5488762
>Plently of cis girls LOVE to post their vags on the internet but very little trans girls do. THINK ABOUT IT.
>plenty
Much keked

Also until recently the average age for srs in the US was in the 50s. You don't want to see what it looks like on a woman in her 60s (which is closer to the truth given there were still under 30s getting it)

please dont mutilate yourselves boys

>>5488762
Are you stupid or just pretending?

Only a tiny, tiny percentage of girls are trans so obviously there are less trans vaginas found online. Also, surgeons don't "gamble" with patients. And where the fuck do you get the idea that "plenty" of girls "love" to post their vaginas online? Why do you type like a retard? So many questions.

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>>5488762
k

>>5470174
What's the horror story?

well after seeing some of these pics i am honestly horrified

i cannot imagine how you must feel about yourself to willingly do these things to your body.

>>5489646
Once my car loan settles down a bit, I'm gunna try and go get SRS. Basically, I can't enjoy sex because I have to feel my stupid penis bouncing up and down.

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>>5489658
>I can't enjoy sex

does this look enjoyable?

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>>5489682
It's more like, I'd rather take the chance of it going well with the risk of something like this over staying the same.

>>5489150

>k
>I WANT EVERYONE TO A POTENTIALLY BUSTED VAGINA LIKE ME

Many transwomen try to encourage girls to transition because they want them to be miserable like themselves and let me tell you SRS IS THE NEXT STEP. MOST GIRLS WHO HAVE SHITTY VAGINAS WILL NOT TELL YOU ABOUT IT!

YOU KNOW IT'S TRUE. THINK ABOUT IT

This isn't some "k" thing, it's big deal. This anon doesn't give a shit about you BUT I DO.

THINK

ABOUT

IT.

>>5489682
It looks enjoyable now. That's literally month 2. It takes six months for this shit to heal enough to have sex.

>>5489718
Except all these horror pics were taken right out of surgery or during early healing.

I've nursed friends back to health and I saw the absurd amount of difference between week 2 and year 2.

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I have an upcoming consultation with a new SRS team in NYC.

Marci Bowers is coming to teach some top tier plastic surgeon how to do SRS (not sure if he has ever done it though). It would be covered under insurance but I don't want to be a guinea pig. It's so close to obtainable but I don't want to be a statistic.

Also, my gf wants to eat me out after it's done, can she get me off with tongue only?

>>5489837
I think you should give the new guy at least 6 months to establish some results and learn about how good he is?

And your clitoris will be less sensitive than a cisclit, but you can still get off from oral with more pressure applied

>>5488762
It's really akward. For scientific reasons, literally.

>All these idiots who think surgeries are supposed to heal instantly

>>5489810
I should clarify that from what I've seen, it shouldn't look like that after 2 months. There's a lot going wrong with that job, not that it can't heal up more or get revised.

>>5489718
oh

>>5489837
weirdly the most sensitive spot for me so far is under the mons pubis rather than on the exposed clitoris. this should change as the nerves reconnect. but the gross thing is that there's a mucus-like discharge present during ~6 months of healing. It's like that dark kind of snot you hock up at the end of being sick. Between that and the pads, it's smelly down there. For a while, I wouldn't imagine putting her nose or tongue anywhere near there would be a good idea. Could she get you off after it's all healed? maybe. 50% or more is mental, so if you're in the right mood, right mindset, it would be more likely.

I'd leave being a guinea pig to the older transitioners who've lived a full sex life and probably had E.D. before transition anyway. The older people get, the less they want and expect sex, so if anything goes wrong, they're not missing out on too much. Since you're on a chan board, you probably have a lot of life ahead of you.

this thread is revolting and you should all seek therapy

>>5489954
Especially surgery that heavy

>>5490046
I spent a year in therapy to qualify for surgery, genius.

>>5490030
>weirdly the most sensitive spot for me so far is under the mons pubis rather than on the exposed clitoris. this should change as the nerves reconnect.
The mons being sensitive and pelvic muscles working were the two most amazing realizations I had. Up to that point I was worried the terfs were right with the "dead fuckhole" bullshit.

>>5470174
>Questions?
Ask away!
>Hopes?
That hopefully someday I can become a little more stretchy, labia majoras more defined (I'm skinny), a bit more pink inside, and maybe some scar work - this is all nitpicking, though.
>Gossip?
Mine's orgasmic, clitoral and prostatic. Looks neat. Any scarring is hidden by hair. In my work I occasionally encounter folks' genitals, and it's always a silent victory as mine's a pretty typical looking innie... that thankfully doesn't bleed.
>Which surgeon are you going to?
I went to McGinn.
>What do you think of the pictures?
They never say much. It's always a case-by-case kind of thing.
>Who has the worst and who has the best SRS vag?
See above.

>>5490046
there are more disgusting and fucked up people out there than the trans.

the reason why they have this kind of support is because over time enough of them have obviously made enough of an impact on enough people.

they have as much right to cut up their own bodies as you have the right to shitpost in obscure message boards.

not that im trans, (str8 cis male here, obviously)

>>5490245
>Especially surgery that heavy
Seriously, it's a ridiculously invasive procedure that causes a ton of nerve damage while creating a completely new structure for the body to deal with. All of those things contribute heavily to the length of the healing process.

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>>5489646
It's a weird mix of hopefulness, the realization that my dick is gonna atrophy to nothing soon, the fact that it's the last source of dysphoria in my life, and the fact that i currently have the ability to get it.

My reasoning is it's better to have an ugly vagina i can use than a cute penis i can't. 5 years of hormones has shrunk the sucker enough already.

>>5489682
That's not the final picture though. The final one is all healed up and doesn't have any melting skin or dark spots.

>>5490448
Thanks for sharing. How many months/years post op are you?

>>5491534
About a year and a half postop.

i have shitposts to post, but mostly just hope this thread isn't lost to the archival abyss like the last one over another unscheduled ChristMas i may take for no reason

>>5470174
Yikes... I'm going to wait till stemcell vaginas can be grown..

>>5493289
Stemcell vags aren't some kind of panacea, they mostly fix a problem that cis women with agenesis have, namely that the pelvic muscles don't develop properly unlike for a trans woman.

>>5493289
You can't use the stemcells to make the outside look any better. The only difference will be texture.

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>>5470174
>Brassard: http://imgur.com/a/ihDCg

>>5493996
Those are completely out of order. She didn't regain her dick back.

>>5493996
>>5494077
Also they're an example of bad aftercare if >>5493996 had bothered to read the thread. The Brassard gallery doesn't even show a final result and it doesn't even show a normal result.

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>>5493289
No guarantee they'll be good or even practical in your lifetime. Ask yourself: what can an advance like that do for you if you have a dick that it couldn't do if you already had an srs vagina?

Recovery would be easier if you already had the srs cavity in your body and trained the muscles to not close up. They could potentially just swap out the dickvag for the stemcellvag.

But you don't know anything because these magical sciginas don't exist yet. You may as well be asking santa to make you a rl grl. Why not get the best thing you can currently with hopes that there will be even better things available later? Then at least you have a vagina instead of being 80 crying yourself to sleep that nothing good enough magically came into existence for you.

>>5494336
What is that keyboard for?

>>5494336
I went to suporn/Chet thank you very much, it's not a dickgina, it's a scrotgina

>>5496342
It's still a dickgina. The scrotal graft isn't the whole inside.

welp... shiiiit
I want it and i will do it.. but i think i really have to be in a coma...
Those pics freak me out sooo bad but doesn't change my opinion on wanting it.. I really do want it but please 4 months coma or something would be nice ye?

>>5496342
lol thanks for the thai meme. every surgeon uses the scrotum in the vagina too.

>>5496314
it's just a typical japanese computer keyboard.

>>5497024
There's a risk those fucking problems, mostly if you're 60, but if it's routine it'll be pretty normal after like 4 weeks. Your dick will never become normal on its own.

>>5497471
Not good enough. Kill me now.

I have a question for other post-ops. In my vagina care notes it says I should be douching every day for the rest of my life after sex and stuff too.

However I know some girls stop douching all together after a time. I'm dilating just once every two days now and I tend to not douche on the off day. And I don't really see how it's nessicary now that it's healed and not sloughy. And because I want to get stable vaginal flora douching doesn't seem like the best thing.

What do you think, should it be an every day thing and what does your surgeon say to do?

>>5502598
How to douche and with wat?

>>5502612
Fill douche with clean, fresh, warm water, stick in vagina, squeeze water in vagina to wash it out.

>>5502632
Do you do that standing in the shower? Sitting down? What kind of douche?

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>>5502598
That seems excessively douchy. When I shower I just soap up a finger and swirl around in there, then go back with a clean finger to get any soap out. I'll stop with the soap when it stops with the healing mucus. My surgeon doesn't even mention douching. My vaginal fauna seems fine.

>>5502656
Laying down on an inco pad is how I do it. Just a normal vaginal douche.

>>5503073
Well I'm well beyond healed now, but it makes sense at the start when there's all the slough and stuff. And even to get out lube from dilating but it seems pointless to me when I haven't dilated. But I don't really wanna douche after sex every time.

>My vaginal fauna seems fine.
Douching disrupts the flora since vagina flora needs a different pH from what water is which is why I don't want to do it. Douching in cis girls is bad because of this and can lead to BV.

Though my notes say that the vagina is not self cleansing and thus if you don't douche it'll get all nasty from the build up stuff.

>>5503538
zactly. My doctor described it as "like a bellybutton."

>>5503538
I've tried that before and I just end up laying in a puddle.

Also what's the deal with discharge? What's normal/abnormal? Color? Smell?

>>5504303
You don't have to keep laying in it, once you do it just get up and fold up the inco pad.

Discharge can be a variety of things, if you're early in recover it's most likely to be slough which is like white-pale yellow and has a weird smell but not rancid. If you're like 3~ months in and still have discharge it's probably more likely to be from granulation tissue discussed here: >>5472824 I'm still dealing with this a bit and it has never smelled at all but my surgeons notes say it can smell bad.

Then there's pus, if your discharge is yellow-green and smells rancid it's most likely pus which is from an infection and you'll need to get it treated.

The best thing to do is to get a swab done if you're unsure. The discharge from my granulation when it was untreated was bright yellow (though no smell) so I got a swab done and that came back clear so it was obviously discharge rather than pus. (That said I did have two swabs come back positive and have to go on abx but nothing major ever came of them and I didn't really have any different symptoms)

>>5504370
How/where do I get a swab done? An OBGYN office? Lab?

>>5504403
Depends I just went to my GP but if theyre not comfortable to use a speculum you might need a gyno to. Who did you get surgery with this should be stuff you can talk to them about.

>>5503538
uh, they pretty much tell you to tone down on douching after a few weeks, it's just that early on you have way more crap inside than it can handle, with all the bleeding, sutures, etc.

>>5504618
Your surgeon might have. But mine in the notes specifically says that douching is a life long daily thing. That's why I'm posting in the first place.

>>5504731
lol typical western faux surgeon. only a terrible western surgeon would ever tell you to always douche. why do you think you have to keep douching? because it smells because you douche too much. my surgeon (suporn t-girl, btw) tells all his girls to just change their tamp daily and the body is natural enough to sort all it's problems out. the natural smell helps you from getting clocked in public, imo. whose going to sense the pheromones (the same pheromones made during your moon cycle) and think you'r a t-girl? you only douche to exercise your chonburi muscle.

>>5505437
Can your belly button sort itself out? Retard.

>>5505507
fyi stonedlily is a making a joke about thai memers

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>>5505574
StonedLily is shitposting, I don't give a fuck if it's ironic.

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Has anyone had surgery with Dr Andrew Ives in Melbourne. He's the only surgeon my insurance will help cover. I haven't been able to find any photos of the results or any testimonials (besides this retarded non-binary chick who couldn't be fucked dilating.)

>>5505507
lol dipshit I don't have a bellybutton, I'm IVF intersex.

>>5505574
>>5505602
fuck off :^)

>>5505437
Jokes about thai memesters aside, I actually would expect this from Chet, considering his ridiculous aftercare expectations.

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>>5505653
Please help.

>>5505653
FUCK NO.
Sex health doctor I went to said all the Australian surgeons he knows of are butchers, so I wouldn't trust him...
He recommended some Thai surgeon, not Suporn or Chett though. One that does it in 2 stages I believe over them.

>>5506164
oh stonedlily, you're still alive?

>>5506255
Ridiculous aftercare expectations?

>>5507098
Chett wants girls to dilate for two hours every day for like 1-2 years. It's needlessly excessive.

>>5508176
He does recommend it for one year, I never thought much of it.
What's the normal time?

>>5508254
Most other surgeons have you drop to once a day for 20 minutes after six months.

I never had to do it for 2 hours ever, at the start I was dilating for an hour a day (3 times a day, 20 minutes each) by 12 weeks it was 40 minutes a day (2 times a day, 20 minutes each). This isn't including the prep time and douching afterwards though.

>>5508300
I'll be in Thailand in 20 days and most likely see Chettawut for a FFS followup visit, I guess I'll ask about the SRS aftercare stuff.

>>5470174
>Questions
How can any of you honestly say you arent fucking mental patients for wanting to slice up your penis for a fake vagina that is so obviously a gaping wound that you have to dilate it for months and months because your body is trying to repair itself?

Im being 100% sincere here. I might be trans, but i will never get behind the idea genital mutilation as treatment for a mental disorder.

>>5470174
does anyone know what you can do in the months leading up to SRS to make recovery faster? I'm going in June of this year to Suporn.

>>5508587
lmao meanwhile you want to be a chick with a dick, if that isn't a fucking abomination IDK what is.

>>5505437
>>>5505437
wait you need to wear new tampon every day if you're with suporn???

>>5508669
i think its pretty gr8 m8 i r8 it 8/8 because i can still mastrb8 ;)

for real, id rather have been born with a vagina, but i wasnt. We cannot change our sexual organs. You will never ever have a real vagina, ever. Get over it.

>>5508702
>likes playing with their dick
you're disgusting

>>5508702
thats absolutely vile, you like playing with your dick, gtfo you AGP transbian monster. please hang yourself while you're at it. the world would be better off without another straight male crossdresser like you.

thread, calm down.

tho indeed if someone wants to keep their parts, idk why they are here. i mean for some it is still a question, and it's not like we may or may not be soon living in a world where not having had it done could be really disadvantageous to our rights.

guys dont mutilate yourselves :(

do we have more pictures of people head on standing with feet in different positions? have we narrowed down what is likely to cause very a strange outwardly visibly abnormal caved-in mons pubis area? or is it a liability in any method depending on one's healing?

>>5508940
that in and of itself doesn't address why we are taking such risks in any way. you present no argument with which to engage. most of us know we are accepting something less than ideal--a mutilation, if that's what you want to call it--and most of us know that there are results that are just really bad.

maybe for a lot of us, living with what we already have is worse.

whats the best surgeon

>>5470174
Holy what the fuck are you people shitting me with this?

>>5508961
>visibly abnormal caved-in mons pubis area

Can you link to a picture like this. My mons pubis looks just like any cis girls if I compare it so I'm not sure what you're talking about.

>>5508961
>>5509459
In the early stages it's more that there's still a swollen bulge in the middle rather than any lack of material. So when legs are spread, especially sitting down, the sides look caved-in.

>>5509334

Dr.Keep your dick.

>>5510901
Dr. Chaser please

>>5508781
>hates the feeling of pleasure
check yourself into a mental institute
>>5508826
you too.

oh and you arent fooling anyone with your TRUTRANS WE SLICE UP OUR DICKS AND HAVE MEN POUND OUR GAPING FLESH WOUNDS WE ARE REAL WOMENZ . CIS GIRLS CAN BE LEBIANS BUT NOT TRANS GIRLS THEY ALL HAVE TO LIKE MEN OR THEY ARE AGP CUZ I SAID SO.

IF YOU ARENT AS MENTALLY DISTURBED AS I AM AND WANT TO SELF MUTILATE U ARENT TRUTRANS.

guys dont mutilate your bodies!

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>>5511072
>hates the feeling of pleasure
>thinks you can't feel pleasure post-op

>>5511086
>thinks you will even feel 1/4 of the pleasure of your penis or a real vagina.

GUYZ THE DOCTORS WHO GET PAID REDICULOUS AMOUNTS OF MONEY TO DO THESE SURGERIES SAID THAT ITS A REAL VAGINA I TOTALLY BELIEVE THEM.

i cant imagine how disturbed and deluded a person must be to want to slice up one of their organs for a gaping flesh wound that doesnt even work properly. Sometimes you even get feces in the fucking wound if it ruptures.

>>5511098
I'm post-op, hon. I don't just "think" I know. And let me tell you penetrative sex is so much better, the vaginal canal is closer to the prostate so is stimulated more easily and doesn't come with the pain of anal.

>chasers literally being scumbag enough to encourage trans women to keep their cocks.

>>5511072
you get a lot of pleasure out of having and playing with your cock?
are you trans?

>>5511128

Surely that's just trolls being trolls? Even if every trans got SRS there would be plenty of thirsty "traps" for the chasers.

>>5511133

Not the same anon but when I first started hormones I really wanted SRS but as the years pasted my genital dysphoria lessened to the point where I no longer want/need SRS and I'm pretty ok with my dick now.

>>5511125
>hon.
we know you are a post op hon
>penetrative sex is so much better,
your fantasies are not evidence

>>5511133
being trans has no effect on the fact that the penis has thousands of pleasurable nerve endings on it.

I didnt used to like it very much but after seeing about 4 different psychologists i realized that i , like most people who hate their penis and probably everyone who gets srs, was placing a lot of unwarranted hate on my penis and using it as a scapegoat for my dysphoria, since it was literally a symbol of masculinity. Iv learned to not judge or hate my penis and it really doesnt get in the way of me passing,which is the 2nd most important part of being trans.

Self mutilation will always be disgusting and the fact that the only people who do "studies" on post op srs are ALL paid surgeons getting fucking rich off desperate trannies who fall for this shit is beyond pathetic

>YEAH HON ITS TOTALLY GONNA BE A REAL VAGINA JUST PAY ME ALL THIS MONEY
>SEE GUYS I MADE THIS STUDY AFTER BEING PAID A SHIT TON OF MONEY ITS TOTALLY GOING TO HAVE THE SAME CULTURE AS A CIS VAGINA CUZ I SAID SO

post op trans people are the most pathetic self loathing and guillable people on the planet. End of discussion. You should be absolutely embarassed with yourself for letting some rich fuck scam you into slicing up your penis for a fake vagina.

You do not have a vaginal canal. You will never have a vaginal canal. You have a wound that was formed from your penis and made to simulate and emulate a vagina. Its an imitation, thats it.

Get it through your head hon.

YOU
WILL
NEVER
HAVE
A
VAGINA

>>5512117
>being trans has no effect on the fact that the penis has thousands of pleasurable nerve endings on it.

HRT has an effect on that though

>You have a wound that was formed from your penis and made to simulate and emulate a vagina. Its an imitation, thats it.

How delusional do you think people are? Nobody's claiming they will have a cis vagina. I just want to be able to be fucked by a guy's penis in the front and have him have the sensation of fucking a girl in the pussy. I don't care whether it's authentic.

Shaving doesn't make me naturally hairless either. Putting on glasses doesn't give me naturally good eyesight. Fuck off with your naturalistic fallacy.

>>5512117
What is with this meme kek.

>>5512329
>HRT has an effect on that though

false. Hrt does not make your nerve endings go away. The only thing that does that is srs.
>front and have him have the sensation of fucking a girl in the pussy.
fetishist. you sliced up your penis for a fetish lol.

Also you realize men will never ever ever view you as a cis woman and everyone can tell thats not a real vagina right?

>>5513151
Everyone can tell if you get your SRS in mexico for 500 dollars.

>>5513176
even LE SUPORN looks fake and beefy as fuck. I have yet to see any srs vaginas that would ever pass for more than an extremely ugly cis vagina.

>>5513199
well you haven't looked at enough srs vaginas.

>>5513212
post 3 that look real.

>>5513221
I don't want to get banned

>>5513291
linking to imgur wont get you banned. stop stalling, we both know you are full of shit

>>5513297
ur full of shit.

>>5513422
im asking for 3 pics of srs vaginas that look real and no one will provide any links because they know in their hearts they all look like shit.

Prove me wrong

>>5513432
Weve posted plenty before I don't save them to link every time for trolls like yourself.

>>5476993
Guess no one can ever have surgery or have organs removed, replaced, or get implants. We've all got to be the way god intended

keepin it bumped for life priorities. glad to hear there's more of a point now in getting on the wait list in ontario. when i started hrt, the conservatives had already ravaged my public school education, there really wasn't any drawback to not dropping out for hrt--but they de-listed srs for the longest time as well.

i never trusted smitherman to re-list srs right, i just assumed he was schmoozing and wine-and-canape'ing with camh/u-of-t namey names, after all they did defund hrt for poor people at the same time they re-listed srs.

and yes, friends of mine have been denied for trivial things, including depression--which while not trivial is a reason to maybe, yknow, emphasise one's need for srs. sigh, but anyway now ppl i kno are getting pre-srs orchidectomies covered and i'm getting excited. that they can do that many ppl in montreal a day gives me a bit of of hope. the results aren't perfect, but my mess below will be gone, and unsightliness can be revised--as long as they don't fuck up the mons area, that's still getting to me. i have no idea who or how they do that

>>5513199
some look ok, but yes we do need to talk soberly abt quality revision work, literal tattooing (heck it works to define nipples better, it has basis helping definition), etc.

>>5513432
really yo, they exist. despite being gay, i just don't care as much about vaginas as--idk are you a cishet dude looking for women you think might be easy to sleep with or something, but want material on us first; or a legit trans woman wanting access to hope (understandable)?

>>5513432
you should pay more attention to what we post rather than how to construct some new b8

>>5509459
>Can you link to a picture like this. My mons pubis looks just like any cis girls if I compare it so I'm not sure what you're talking about.
i feel bad about linking it. it was in the old thread in the long collected imgur sample given.
>>5509542
>In the early stages it's more that there's still a swollen bulge in the middle rather than any lack of material. So when legs are spread, especially sitting down, the sides look caved-in.
no no, it's more the centre looking caved in. they like had a dimple caving into them and the sides buldged--idk how to describe. again it makes me feel bad and like maybe i'll link it after i look for it, but i feel like they may be young enough to be a poster here and i don't like adding to ppl's feelings of dysphoria and feeling misshapen on a personal level with other trans women. my scepticisms are of srs as it is now as an industry and the cult like support of surgeons and the surgeons who pursue legal action if they get bad reviews (brassard did this to a friend, and it was just over care while being in the hospital, creepiness n stuff), which curiously hasn't advanced much in well over a decade.

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>be me
>7 months post-op
>over the moon happy with my vagina
>though still have some worries about how it looks
>have very small labia minora
> worry it doesn't look at least somewhat normal
>come across an "innie" subreddit
>all the closed ones look just like mine
>still certain that spread mine will look obviously trans
>find one spread
>holy shit mine looks just like that
>mfw

>>5514451
like unhappy or happy with the spread look? if unhappy it seems like srs, there is good revision work, and crumby revision work--but also tattooing to help alter definition and give a pinker appearance. (the mcginn photo shows an unhealthy red by her tattoo artist, but imagine that can be avoided--maybe it was deemed necessary in that patient to help define vs anatomical irregularity.

>>5514451
>over the moon happy with my vagina
hope you stay happy...
>all the closed ones look just like mine
...this looking normal i think is p much #1 in priority, so if stuff isn't ideal, you still have somewhere to work from.

also even then, ppl feeling you up really aren't going to be able to tell if you are moist/lubricated/whatev. it's the stretchy and the inside that feels diff, and the position of the introitus, and even then, it just means you are a bit different. srs surgeons who are trans themselves i've found are more candid about this, and they still got srs themselves

aside from fingers and getting people off, does anyone have much experience going down on post-srs trans women. i've kind of dreaded this topic, since the tissue is so different, and if the tissue of the urethra isn't used, even the glands analagous to bartholin's glands are gone. i do notice trans women smell different than men and more like women in their crotches even pre-srs... but i've only gone down on pre-srs ppl; and tbhon i benzo the shit out of my autistic self to have sex with people so my memory is garbage

>>5514520
I wasnt sure if my spread vulva looked normal as I'd only seen big beefy vulva before. After seeing cis girls with ones like mine "innie" I'm very happy with it and I loved it before anyway, just had some aesthetic doubts.

>>5514541
gf went down on me
according to her no different than any of her cis ex gfs

>>5514565
that is good news, i was having strange worries about how epidermal skin sheds etc

>>5509334
Suporn :DDDDDD

>>5470174
HOLY MOTHER OF FUCK WHY DID I LOOK

>>5513297
There's a link at the top of this thread.

>>5514534
IF they touch your vagina they'll know if it's moist/

>>5515951
Dramatic faggot

>>5470354
>>5470514
Same.

>>5470974
You mean badly done neovaginas, hon.

>>5470909
Having performed circumcisions for patients, I have no idea what you're talking about.

>>5518163
That's only if you screw it up. Basically the person doing it accidentally cuts too low and removes to much of the normal skin so to compensate they use the closest skin which is ball skin.

As I understand it it's mainly a problem with 'traditional' circumcisions preformed by poorly trained rabbis.

>>5515958
none of those look realistic tho. they all look plastic or beefy or just gross.

>>5518758
one of the vaginas here
>>>/soc/23061406
is post op, i know that because i posted it myself
please point out the plastic/beefy/gross one

>>5519659
yeah idk, the images are not high-res enough to confirm the downward flap scars. it doesn't seem to matter since also reminds that shaven typical cis vaginas are not v pretty from that angle either. other photos in thread seem to emphasise potentially helpful compensating for ehh beefy look by erectile tissue at sides in labia majora suggested in clitoral diagrams, seemingly analogous to columns of the corpus cavernosum penis (makes sense given how arousal changes appearance in cisvag). i guess we get away not having analogous erectile tissue used by not having much labial definition usually but sometimes that means having like no labia at all near near the introitus where it may really help.

again wish we had really developed vulva/labiaplasty, and vaginoplasty weren't always so priority #1 in operations when it also has its own failure rate, and theoretically would have seemed the hardest feat developing srs since there's no analogous tissue. (tho i guess it's tempting since they don't expect anyone to look up there and see the odd pale or pigmented/non-pink,non-mucosal skin with a speculum)

>>5519659
lol have you ever even seen a real vagina? none of those pass. they're the hons of the neovag world.

>>5519990
kek you obviously haven't seen a real vag m8
>>5519984
idk what you mean desu
good surgeons tend to focus more on the vulva and where they put what analogous tissue since the vaginal canal really isn't hard to make

>>5520004
that would exclude methods like suporn tho from being very analogous at all apart from the clitoris tho since he uses the entire stretchy scrotum for the vagina, and the scrotum is formed by in utero labioscrotal fusion and is obvi the analogous tissue for labia.

i get that being fully analogous would be impossible right now and would require a lot of complex work that may be multi-stage, and not even be as nerve sparing as i envision. since things like the hood/prepuce would literally need to be cut off and reattached it seems (the the prepuces tendency to gather glans smegma, penile or clitoral, is a lil gross and i could do without)

idk i guess i accept that fully analogous tissue would be a patchwork that may not be so sightly as envisioned and may even need resection that wouldn't exclude possibility of phantom pain either (someone i know in toronto gets this, so presumably brassard) but that the erectile tissue is thrown away is kindof shocking especially when in so many of us it's very shrunken anyway and columns maybe easily redirected to behind the labia majora. in people where it isn't shrunken yet cos of protracted hrt, maybe they can use very careful botox to block all tumescence for whatev length of time, if possible. it seems maybe possible to do this without causing incontinence since oddly they use botox selectively for erectile dysfunction as well somehow, which i don't get, but anyway...
>>5519990
but yeah u r worst moronanon ever. go see a ho, if u rnt creepy or violent and they are willing to take ur money

>>5520074
you sound like a complete retard. did you transition because you thought being a girl would be easier? guess what, life's hard to idiots no matter what.

neovag tastes and smells like shit. those photos look like someone built them out of playdough

>>5520086
shut up. i transitioned 15 years ago. did/do i think it would make life easier? oh for christ.

i sound like an idiot, you are an idiot. it doesn't mean you need to be here. why are you here? you just expressed that this is not an area of interest for you. why not leave, kill yourself, drown in a flood, or however the parlance goes around in here?

>>5520074
he doesn't use all of the scrotum for the vaginal canal tho

>>5520086
you must have a lot of experience with neovags then

>>5520146
it's funny cos he referring to collage picture lalalily shared of a whole bunch of cisvags and only one scivag.

idk why he or they or whatever is here. sounds like a guy or washed up hon assessing their poor options for getting laid

>>5519894
thank god he's moved on

>>5480836
neither does Meltzer, for that matter.

>>5470174
I-Is the purpose of this thread to scare me out of SRS?

I'd go through those to find good stuff, put pretty much all of it just scares me.

Can someone show me a proper SRS job that has healed and actually looks ok?

>>5520237
No. If you're too naive to handle the realities of SRS then you shouldn't get SRS.

>>5519659
Found it:
>>>/soc/23061406#p23110588

>>5520358
Well excuse me, princess. I was just wondering if there were any success stories.

I guess if my only options are being unhappy with my natural genitals and being unhappy with my Chinese knockoff genitals I'll just have to wait until there's a better alternative.

>>5520237
Most of those pictures are terrible representations of SRS. They're not healed and some are even badly healing because of bad aftercare. The galleries should be remade entirely, to be honest.

>>5520476
I guess I'll just start contacting some surgeons to get an idea.

Was just hoping my good friends at the 4chan would be able to help me out, since you're all usually quite helpful. Thanks, anon.

>>5520502
We are. Look at the surgeon websites yourself. These are what you can get.

>>5520444
nope lmao

>>5520537
Well say what you will that girl is clearly hiding some large ass scars with her hair. You can notice them at the bottom.

>>5520502
>I guess I'll just start contacting some surgeons to get an idea.

desu that's part of the issue, a lot of neovag pictures come from surgeons and surgeons typically don't get pictures of the healed result because after since a patient has no reason to send them pictures when they've healed up.

It's the same with girls who post there's online, when you first get the chop you're like "shit, is this normal, is that normal?" and you post your bloody, bruised and swollen vagina on the internet but once it's healed you don't really feel the need to show it to anyone and it becomes a more private part of your life again.

>>5520554
I fail to see any "scars" on this wobbly shaky photo
pls point them out

>>5519659
Found
http://i.4cdn.org/soc/1451922304574.jpg

>>5520777
That's CIS. Obv by the labia majora.

>>5520777
nope try again

>>5520888
why is ur pussy so fucked up senpai
http://i.4cdn.org/soc/1452141084378.jpg

>>5520921
most likely not this either

Guys stop guessing. This is hers.
>>>/soc/23106956

>>5520945
lily would never have nails like that (though she said it might not be hers) and no scars and never seen neovag that pink so i don't think so

>mfw all these guys calling cis vaginas trans being unable to pick out the trans one

Kinda proves the point even if you do eventually guess the right one.

>>5490448
>They never say much. It's always a case-by-case kind of thing.
so does that mean that your vag looks good? Or just that it gives you good orgasms.

>>5511128
that's just what they do.

>>5512117
>your fantasies are not evidence
ok so literally having sex isn't evidence? are you an idiot?

>>5513151
fetishists are the ones who keep their dick and fuck women, like you.

>>5520921
>>5520945
still not the one I posted, sorry

>>5521164
yeah, honestly I find it interesting to see what they think is srs
says a lot about them and their ideas about real vulvas and how they look

>>5521740
surprise, surprise, the most transphobic idiots are misogynists too and they've never seen a woman naked!

JUST POST YOUR FUCKING VAGINA ALREADY

>>5521775
the one I posted or mine ?
either way, no, would ruin the game

>>5489837
Get them to do it at a reduced rate.

>>5490030
>but the gross thing is that there's a mucus-like discharge present during ~6 months of healing. It's like that dark kind of snot you hock up at the end of being sick.
Sounds like a bacterial infection. Talk to your doc to get it cleaned out and on antibiotics.
this >>5504370

>>5521832
Nah dude, I saw my doctor, and it's just normal healing goop. I initially thought it might be an infection, but he said it wasn't.

>>5508678
no
just no
never ever wear a tampon

>>5522238
If you're 6 months post-op it certainly isn't just healing stuff. If they said it's not infection then the only other reason to be getting discharge at your stage is granulation which needs to be treated.

How much shrinkage would an orchie have at 1 year hrt and then 2 years post orchie? I may want a vaginoplasty but I can't financially afford it or potential subsequent care for the next two years.

>>5522465
I'm not. There's the chance of discharge for up to 6 months, though. That's why I mentioned that number, not because I've been that far yet.

>>5521740
I've always joked about the massive variety out there.

>>5521807
>inb4 you never posted one.

I had a look at them and none have any normal tells. Which is weird because at the very least I should be able to see scars unless it's one of the pics that is literally hiding the whole vagina.

>>5523081
nope I posted one
>scars
what if I tell you scares aren't permanent/have to happen

>>5523867
They definitely have to happen. That's how healing works. And yes scars are permanent they just fade. At the very least you should be able to notice the different 'grain' of the skin coming together unless it's a fuzzy picture. It's nothing bad just part of any major skin related surgery that you can use to spot srs vags.

>>5523881
idk my scars went away after like the first 2 months
you can spot old people who had srs late tho cause their scars fade super slow

>>5524079
How old were you when you got SRS? I'm going later this year (5 months) and I turned 21 last week, what's the best way to prep/mke. Recovery easier?

>>5524176
I got srs at 23 my scars are very faint now at 7 months post-op. I used kelo-cote on the scars for like 5 months and think that helped.

Most people even young aren't going to have faded scars by two months but that doesn't mean they won't eventually. Lily is just a weird exception and advanced healing.

>>5524176
>How old were you when you got SRS?
19
>I'm going later this year (5 months) and I turned 21 last week
good luck
>what's the best way to prep/mke.
idk what surgeon you go to but i was told to bring loose clothes like skirts and stuff didn't end up using them tho and stuck to my jeans and stuff, have lube stocked up at home for dilation, diaper changing pads to lay on while dilating and that's about it really, maybe a sitting cushion but i never used the one they gave me
oh and having pads is always good, in the beginning you have some discharge so it's nice to have pads with you

>Recovery easier?
for me yes, started having sex after 2 months, masturbation a bit earlier, no problems urinating or something
only thing, running and lifting wasn't rly doable for the first 4ish months
but that's about it

ofc everything can vary depending on person and surgeon

one last thing
using a beerbottle out of glass as coolpad after surgery worked better than one of those blue cold packs cause the form is a bit better from my experience

>>5524207
>ost people even young aren't going to have faded scars by two months but that doesn't mean they won't eventually. Lily is just a weird exception and advanced healing.
pretty much this

>>5524213
Thanks!! and I'm going to Suporn. Did you run/lift much leading up to SRS? Do you think it helped your recovery?

>>5524407
>thanks!! and I'm going to Suporn.
ahh good luck was pretty nice there
>Did you run/lift much leading up to SRS?
not really
>Do you think it helped your recovery?
idk could help but i honestly don't know, also in the hospital try to eat as little as possible A) the food isn't good B) the package prevents you from taking a shit so it'll be easier after the week of it in to take a shit again

>>5524429
>try to eat as little as possible A) the food isn't good B) the package prevents you from taking a shit so it'll be easier after the week of it in to take a shit again
hahahahhaa, alright, thanks for the tips :D. gl hf in life.

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Has anyone experienced a loss of creativity post srs

>>5524504
no, how would that even work ?

>>5524781
penis art

i hope i'm joking, but how so many people use capacitive touchscreens these days to make interesting stuff... oh what a world

on scars tho, yeah, i've always scarred easily and have hypertrophic scars and stay red longer than other people, then are left hyperpigmented or with hypertrophy. most of my scars are from childhood and teens, at 31, yikes idk... but i again, think more of us have to accept we might not all be "done" after one-stage srs--just at least, the original mess will be gone

>>5524429
>try to eat as little as possible A) the food isn't good
someone i know who went showed me pictures of herself eating fried scorpions there. not the hospital food obvi, but ack. no no no. idk what i would eat as a vegan, fish sauce being such a staple. mangosteen and more mangosteen?

>>5525112
Oh that sounds great.

What's the best place to buy lube for post op dilation? I found a 12 pack of surgilube for $45 on amazon. but is that a good deal?

>>5525525
As a prescription from your GP.

>>5525525
>lube for post op dilation
Mineral oil

>>5521547
Both.

>>5521740
>/soc/
>guys
You realize they're all virgins, right? And you're still surprised?
>>5524079
>my scars went away
Why you always lyin'?
>>5524213
>sex after 2 months
Penetration? Doubtful.
>>5524429
>in the hospital try to eat as little as possible
Your body doesn't need nutrients to heal. Not at all.

Fucking troll.

>>5524504
Post SRS, aka post castration, can lead to mental lethargy if your HRT is unfollowed, sure.

>>5526227
who believes you and why aren't they in a mental ward ?
if you try to convince people maybe not say "post castration"

>>5526227
>Penetration? Doubtful.

I don't know about thai surgeons, but most in the US say sex is fine after 2 months. we still dilate, and that's with a hard plastic dildo. a penis is a little flexible and made of soft flesh. sex after 2 months might smell bad or not feel much pleasure but isn't hard to believe it happened.

>>5523881
Most of my scars have gone away over the years. you'd never know it, but my face was totally reconstructed, yet I only have one scar left under the hair line. I had a couple nasty gashes, and then there were a number of surgery scars to put all the bone fragments back in place.

>>5527767
Pics or scars?