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I'm 24 and have pretty bad dysphoria I'm pretty sure I need to transition. What do you think my chances at passing are?
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This is my face my hair is in a ponytail so you can see my face
I'm 24
About 5'10
Around 160 pounds(need to lose weight)
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>>8232496
If you feel you need to transition why do you even ask if you'll pass? Are you transitioning for yourself or someone else?
Go see a therapist
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>>8232515
She could be HSTS or interpersonal AGP.
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If I like feminine femboys am I gay ?
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>>8232468
Only if traps are gays. Which it is.
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>>8232468
Yes, but negligibly so. If you like them the way you and other men like girls, it's gay but not very.
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>>8232468
No, just a faggot
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>start hormones at a "okayish age"
>work hard for FFS
>train voice
>buy clothes
>change all documents
>pass/blend
>only to never leave the house
>when from normal dude with a social life to cute girl who doesn't go outside for months and never talks to anyone besides online friends
Why
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>>8232459
Could be worse I went from normal dude to tranny that doesn't leave the house
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>>8232459
Because you were never a "girl trapped in a man's body." You were just fetishizing over how great it would to be a girl. Since now everyone sees you as a girl, you don't know what to do and how to act in public. So you have become a total shut in.
In short:
A G P
G
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>>8232459
Well why did you stop going outside and socializing?
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/mtfg/ - Male to Female general 2017-05-05 09:40:55 Post No.8232109
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Hug your pillow tonight.
•Makeup tutorials : http://masterposter.tumblr.com/post/116605714860
•Male vs Female measurement data: https://www.bwc.ohio.gov/downloads/blankpdf/ErgoAnthropometricData.pdf
•Correct hormone levels:http://www.hemingways.org/GIDinfo/hrt_ref.htm
•Checking your levels:http://www.privatemdlabs.com/lp/Female_Hormone_Testing.php
•Reducing Muscle http://www.trans-health.com/2001/lose-muscle-gain-fat-dieting-for-mtfs/
•Size charts:http://www.americanapparel.net/sizing/default.asp?chart=womens.pantse_conversion_chart.php
•Transition time lines:http://imgur.com/a/qWpxv
•Voice Training:https://www.reddit.com/r/asktransgender/comments/1ske7b/mtf_voice_training_regimen/
•Voice Help: http://webjedi.net/projects/lgbtq/speech-therapy/
•Discord: https://discord.gg/qjxGSxY
•IRC: https://www.rizon.net/chat#mtfg
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Reminder not to give pandora any responses, (You)s or attention so he will go away like Drakeposter. He has distinctive posting styles and drops trip to avoid filters so do your best to ignore him to keep drama low, please!
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This thread is miiiine
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Please start some drama I'm really bored
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tfw you see one of your childhood pediatricians as the lead name on a paper recommending extinguishing feminine behaviors in boys.
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yawn!!!
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Chasers do some of you enjoy watching your tranny gf cry?
My ex chaser bf always made me cry and I think he enjoyed seeing me miserable cause he would comfort me while trying to hold his laughter in.
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My husband loves to see me cry because he knows it means I am healing
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I have no doubt in my mind that you have autism.
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>abusive relationships: the thread
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Hey /lgbt/ I have my 26 birthday coming up soon. I'm gay, but I've had only one sexual experience (we just fondled each other and, no, I didn't come) years ago. I've never had a boyfriend either. I gave it a good shot, but it just wasn't meant to be. How can I grow old without getting bitter?
>pic related
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>>8231467
Get a bf
Where you at anon?
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>>8231481
East Coast.
Don't you think I'm too old to be dating people now?
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>>8231487
>Don't you think I'm too old to be dating people now?
>sugar daddy pic
>literally an old dude who dates people
wtf
this is bait but I'll answer
people date at all ages
all you need is (take notes):
1) self love (love your own mind: read the books you want, learn what you want, do what you want for society and to earn your living)
2) be at peace with yourself physically. do the physical activity you want, be it just walking or running decathlones. also look the way you want and dress how you want.
3) money nigga, you need it for 2), you have it if you're successfully pulling 1) and you'll need it to 4)
4) date: do fun things with other people. eat nice food, watch movies, go out and buy ice cream, etc.
you can get on your feet even if you're at total zero right now.
I'm 26 and still a full time student with no love life whatsoever, had a gf and dumped her in order to reach my number of goals and be ultimately happy.
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>reasonably successful transition, passes, goes full-time asap
>get bf, have straight friends
>studying liberal arts in uni
>"I absolutely won't fuck this up and I won't be like _those_ AGP trannies!"
>start preferring girls again out of nowhere
>bf was secretly trans, surprise, now I have trans gf and am lately the less femme one
>most friends are gay or trans now
>take a random computer science course because I needed a better paying career, now I make almost six figures at a tech career and spend most of my time behind a screen
Where the fuck did I go wrong. I can't be the only one that tried hard to not fall into the worst stereotype and failed, right?
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>>8231273
eventually enough memes are crreatted such that no human can escape them, there is only so many configurations a person can take, and a cultural change is slower than the creation of memes
For every cultural formaiton hundreds of memes can be generated, meaning that unless your superior intellect or isolation from society is so strong to elude this memery, you are more likely destined to become one.
Even what i'm saying could be read as one of the people who has been memed into giving memes more importance tthan they posses.
This cycle will never end, and so it begins for you and it will begin for many morre, i can predict.
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>>8231273
>and am lately the less femme one
The computer science lesbian AGP trannies are the tomboys. Your gf is probably more of the stereotype than you are.
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>>8231273
> posting the thumbnail
no fuck your post and fuck you
make a new thread you have RUINED this one
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>Be bi-agp trans
>get told through life I'm different by older people
>Father tells me about a kid who was forced to become a girl to try and scare me to normal behavior
>Step brother tells me "gay people are cool" as a young kid "my best friends gay"
>Dress like a emo girl in HS, get a gf.
>Mom "thank God, thought you were gay"
>Move in with his buddy I'm crushing on, roommates wife comes over
>All drunk hanging out
>She pulls me aside
>"Are you gay", " I can tell your different, I can help you"
>Move in with uncle and aunt
>Aunt always talking about gay friends, about them being in the closet while I'm around.
>Get a job, boss always jokes about me looking like a girl with long hair, jokes about getting me a bf and manhandling me
>Cut hair and work out to get gf. Keep getting "you look so handsome. Our little Tom Cruise!
>Get gf. She says I'm always distant. She says I don't care about her. Break up with her.
>Just want to be girl more than anything. Tired of telling all these people I'm a normal straight guy.
>grow hair back out, dye it blond. Order hormones online>
>Hanging out with cute buddy drunk.
>Just want him to manhandle me and suck his cock while dressed like a girl.
>Try to put on movie to get the mood right
>A knights tale
>Yo dude, you could totally pull off that look, you look just like Heath ledger with your hair blond
Fuck my life so much. Why does God play these shitty tricks. I hate being called handsome. I hate being tallish. I hate having powerful hands. I hate how everyone puts me as their 'successor' and treat me like some son they've always wanted. I hate hearing my father tell me how proud he is. I hate it all. Why does this kind of shit happen? What in the actual fuck is wrong with people like me? How do I cute this mental illness? Am I doomed to look like Heath Leadger in a dress?
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>>8231093
do you know how long i spent trying to figure out what god damn game of thrones character this was
also agp doesn't exist
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>>8231106
>Game of thrones
Lol. No. Agp and HOSTS are very real. Blanchard's theories are not only true, but prover several times over by multiple sociologist. Generally, the desire to be female stays while the sexual lust fades, leaving you with the strong desire to be a girl. /tttt/ memes are all excuses and bs. Like the "girls get turned on by their own body" meme.
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>>8231093
>Father tells me about a kid who was forced to become a girl to try and scare me to normal behavior
How often do you schlick to that story?
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don't delete plz edition
•Makeup tutorials : http://masterposter.tumblr.com/post/116605714860
•Male vs Female measurement data: https://www.bwc.ohio.gov/downloads/blankpdf/ErgoAnthropometricData.pdf
•Correct hormone levels:http://www.hemingways.org/GIDinfo/hrt_ref.htm
•Checking your levels:http://www.privatemdlabs.com/lp/Female_Hormone_Testing.php
•Reducing Muscle http://www.trans-health.com/2001/lose-muscle-gain-fat-dieting-for-mtfs/
•Size charts:http://www.americanapparel.net/sizing/default.asp?chart=womens.pantse_conversion_chart.php
•Transition time lines:http://imgur.com/a/qWpxv
•Voice Training:https://www.reddit.com/r/asktransgender/comments/1ske7b/mtf_voice_training_regimen/
•Voice Help: http://webjedi.net/projects/lgbtq/speech-therapy/
•Discord: https://discord.gg/qjxGSxY
•IRC: https://www.rizon.net/chat#mtfg
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Previous thread deleted because of lewds, only pure and innocent girls allowed in this thread.
•Makeup tutorials : http://masterposter.tumblr.com/post/116605714860
•Male vs Female measurement data: https://www.bwc.ohio.gov/downloads/blankpdf/ErgoAnthropometricData.pdf
•Correct hormone levels:http://www.hemingways.org/GIDinfo/hrt_ref.htm
•Checking your levels:http://www.privatemdlabs.com/lp/Female_Hormone_Testing.php
•Reducing Muscle http://www.trans-health.com/2001/lose-muscle-gain-fat-dieting-for-mtfs/
•Size charts:http://www.americanapparel.net/sizing/default.asp?chart=womens.pantse_conversion_chart.php
•Transition time lines:http://imgur.com/a/qWpxv
•Voice Training:https://www.reddit.com/r/asktransgender/comments/1ske7b/mtf_voice_training_regimen/
•Voice Help: http://webjedi.net/projects/lgbtq/speech-therapy/
•Discord: https://discord.gg/qjxGSxY
•IRC: https://www.rizon.net/chat#mtfg
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Oops.
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do not talk about having sex with animals thread
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rip old thread
rest in memes
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Questions from someone who doesn't buy into the so-called gender spectrum 2017-05-05 03:09:32 Post No.8230669
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Questions from someone who doesn't buy into the so-called gender spectrum
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If gender is on a spectrum, then how could you possibly define each point/gender without using an essentialist/stereotypical view of that gender? If the answer to that is to separate gender and gender expression, then doesn't that make the term "gender" abstract and not deserving of being put on a spectrum in the first place? Furthermore, isn't it a bit childish to state that everyone can choose their identity nowadays and that it's the pressure of society to respect each person's identity, address them by their preferred pronoun, etc.?
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>>8230669
If gender *isn't* on a spectrum, then how could you possibly define each point/gender without using an essentialist/stereotypical view of that gender?
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Not an argument.
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>>8230681
Because I don't remove a person's genes, chromosomes, and anatomy from gender in the first place. Even the most masculine woman is still a woman in my view, and even the most feminine man is still a man. I do personally think that gender and many forms of gender expression are separate, and that the latter plays a PART in defining gender. But biology firmly keeps a person in one gender or the other, in my opinion, regardless how they express themselves or feel.
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Thoughts on The Empire Strikes Back: A Posttranssexual Manifesto 2017-05-05 02:46:58 Post No.8230546
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(link to essay)
https://sandystone.com/empire-strikes-back.pdf
What are your thoughts on Sandy Stone's 1993 essay The Empire Strikes Back: A Posttranssexual Manifesto?
Does this essay and it's messages hold any relevance in the modern day transgender movement, or is it mostly just an important relic to a "different era" of trans related struggles?
Personally after reading her essay I have a better understanding of the contexts surrounding the attacks (though still not justified in my opinion) made against Sandy Stone and trans women in Janice Raymond's The Transsexual Empire, and what motivated her to write such an inflammatory and transphobic book.
I also think there are some important points raised in this essay regarding passing and establishing an "authentic trans identity" that are arguably still important to this day, which I will paste into this thread for discussion.
To those that have read this essay or the parts I have pasted in this thread, what are your opinions on it?
Do the ideas expressed in this essay mostly transcend the era and contexts in which it was written in, or have we "advanced" as a society / "movement" to a point in which they are no longer as pertinent?
Do you think she is wrong or right in calling for the need for trans people to establish a "narrative" for ourselves outside of a ""cis-normative"" context, as in, should our goal really be to assimilate into society "post transition" to the point that we effectively "erase" / obscure any aspect of our identity that might be outside of our "normative" transitioned gender identity or "roles?"
(Also the essay was written by a MtF that for whatever reason didn't really do much to address or acknowledge FtMs in her piece so I apologize if it seems like I am being exclusionary)
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"Given this circumstance in which a minority discourse comes to ground in the physical, a counterdiscourse is critical. But it is difficult to generate a counterdiscourse if one is programmed to disappear. The highest purpose of the transsexual is to erase h/erself, to fade into the "normal"population as soon as possible. Part of this process is known as constructing a plausible history-- learning to lie effectively about one's past. What is gained is acceptability in society. What is lost is the ability to authentically represent the complexities and ambiguities of lived experience, and thereby is lost that aspect of "nature" which Donna Haraway theorizes as Coyote-- the Native American spirit animal who represents the power of continual transformation which is the heart of engaged life. Instead, authentic experience is replaced by a particular kind of story, one that supports the old constructed positions."
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"To attempt to occupy a place as speaking subject within the traditional gender frame is to become
complicit in the discourse which one wishes to deconstruct. Rather, we can sieze upon the textual
violence inscribed in the transsexual body and turn it into a reconstructive force. Let me suggest
a more familiar example. Judith Butler points out that the lesbian categories of "butch" and
"femme" are not simple assimilations of lesbianism back into the terms of heterosexuality.
Rather, Butler introduces the concept of cultural intelligibility, and suggests that the
contextualized and resignified "masculinity" of the butch, seen against a culturally intelligible
"female" body, invokes a dissonance that both generates a sexual tension and constitutes the
object of desire. She points out that this way of thinking about gendered objects of desire admits
of much greater complexity than the example suggests. The lesbian butch or femme both recall
the heterosexual scene but simultaneously displace it. The idea that butch and femme are
"replicas" or "copies" of heterosexual exchange underestimates the erotic power of their internal
dissonance. [44] In the case of the transsexual, the varieties of performative gender, seen against
a culturally intelligible gendered body which is itself a medically constituted textual violence,
generate new and unpredictable dissonances which implicate entire spectra of desire. In the
transsexual as text we may find the potential to map the refigured body onto conventional gender
discourse and thereby disrupt it, to take advantage of the dissonances created by such a
juxtaposition to fragment and reconstitute the elements of gender in new and unexpected
geometries. I suggest we start by taking Raymond's accusation that "transsexuals divide women"
beyond itself, and turn it into a productive force to multiplicatively divide the old binary
discourses of gender--as well as Raymond's own monistic discourse.
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2.
To foreground the practices of inscription and reading which are part of this deliberate invocation of dissonance, I suggest constituting transsexuals not as a class or problematic "third gender", but rather as a genre-- a set of embodied texts whose potential for productive disruption of structured sexualities and spectra of desire has yet to be explored. In order to effect this, the genre of visible transsexuals must grow by recruiting members from the class of invisible ones, from those who have disappeared into their "plausible histories". The most critical thing a transsexual can do, the thing that constitutes success, is to "pass." [45] Passing means to live successfully in the gender of choice, to be accepted as a "natural" member of that gender. Passing means the denial of mixture. One and the same with passing is effacement of the prior gender role, or the construction of a plausible history."
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Post pics of you and your qt bf or gf.
Gays, lesbians, and trannies all welcome. Bis only welcome if they're in a same sex relationship.
I'm ftm and my fiance is a cis girl.
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>I'm ftm and my fiance is a cis girl.
Which one is which?
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>>8230608
This is among the most self-doxxing boards out there. Think I saw someone dropping their damn phone number the other day. You don't know this already?
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Give it to me straight lol 2017-05-05 02:41:13 Post No.8230516
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Give it to me straight lol
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Ok fags you fuckers will know this.
Am I gay?
>not attracted to ANYTHING
>ABSOLUTELY think romance is necessary
>get mad boners thinking about kissing boys
I'm very smart and witty, tall, the few experiences I had with girls amounted to nothing because I either bungled it or stopped caring.
What's the verdict and should I start trying to fall in love with long term male friends y/y
Transshits keep out.
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>>8230516
>>get mad boners thinking about kissing boys
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gay people do not believe in romance so no
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I never told this to anyone but I am such a pathetic hon I actually vicariously live through passable transgirls in porn and imaging I am them and what it's like having a bf who tenderly loves you and such. Of course no (decent or attractive) guy will ever fuck me but it's a good thing there is porn because it at least lets you fantasize tbqh.
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>>8230422
It's ok anon I too am a pathetic hon.
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>>8230422
I do the same and I am a hon too if it makes you feel better