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I'm not LGBTQ+ but have family that are, including T. I read this post by some women who isn't happy with how the school informed parents, but she focuses on how horrible T is for other children. I'm triggered. Do I spend all weekend crafting a response?
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>>8839555
No because you wont change her mind.
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>>8839555
For what purpose? There's no reasoning with people so wrapped up in their own bubble of hatred and paranoia. The only effective tactic is to ignore them and hope they realize their idiocy on their own.
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>>8839555
Look, people like her? They don't give a shit about anybody's word but their own. Whatever you say, no matter how well crafted, no matter how sourced, no matter how logical, is going to be ignored because she simply won't care.
People like that aren't open to get another view on the world.
You want to do something productive? Make the people around you happy. That's the kind of stuff that matters- it's a slow radiation outwards.

Support for marriage equality in Australia is dropping due to it's association with transgenderism and communism.

Maybe gays throwing their lot in with every freak, communist and pedo wasn't the best idea.

http://www.baka.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/support-for-samesex-marriage-falling-and-no-vote-rising-advocate-polling-shows-20170908-gydnpt.html
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>>8839478
If true, good.
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>>8839478
I'm gay, I hope they lose this because of LGBT support for turning kids into transgenders. The entire gay lesbian and bisexual community needs to be punched in the mouth until they stop supporting trannies.
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>>8839483
>>8839484
That's all I've heard from people I've spoken to about gay marriage. " I support gay people, but not all this other shit it's associated with".

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What's with the retarded straight MtF vs gay MtF dynamic on this board? Is this literally all /pol/ retards or bored trannies false flagging? Shit reminds me of grade school.
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i don't really get it either

t. mtf who doesn't really like 4chan
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>>8839334
It's just internal shitposting the same way you see in clg where one lesbo calls another lesbo a tranny and they jump at each other's neck while the real trannies are looking and silently laughing at it.
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>>8839334
>Is this literally all /pol/ retards or bored trannies false flagging?

This accurately describes the entirety of /lgbt/
[spoilertag]and 4Chan[/anotherspoilertag] now.

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Why are leftist transtrenders posited by /tttt/ as "what makes trans people look bad", when the first negative image that always comes to people's minds is cotton-ceiling type transbians?
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>>8839269
*the public's mind
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The first negative image that comes to mind is a creepy man in a dress in the bathroom. The public doesn't care about trannies enough to even consistently know basic stuff about us, let alone esoteric SJW babble like the cotton ceiling
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>>8839310
those are the cotton ceiling types.

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is it wrong that i don't trust FtM's to be telling the truth?

i mean most of them seem like tumblrite attention whores
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>>8839171
they are pigs
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>>8839175
i like that one
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>>8839171
I wouldn't say I don't trust them to tell the truth
I trust them to say what they believe is the truth

I don't think all FtMs are tumblr trash but I have a hard time not assuming so at first glance
I'm always glad when the assumption is wrong
I'm looking to be proven wrong

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Have you thrown money at your local depressed trans person today?
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>>8839103
tbhon I'd feel bad asking for monies
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>>8839103
yeah - Ive bought me some food and another pack of proggy
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>>8839103
>Have you thrown money at your local depressed trans person today?

I'm jobless and I live with my parents.
Kinda hard to throw money at me.

I've heard an ftm transgender say that they're actually male because, even though their body is female, their brain is male. But I don't understand this, how can their brain be male? Is it literally programmed by a separate set of chromosomes that are XY? Is that even possible?
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Do you know what ultimately determines how brains are going to act like? Hormones.
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>>8839015
Then how come transexuals have to go through hormone therapy?
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Are parents really dumb? Or in the worse scenario, indifferent to your changes while they ignore something's probably happening?

I wonder is my parents know what's up with me. Back in the day, when i started to shave and lose weight, i always wondered if my father knew i'm a faggot. But due to my clear (fake) /pol/ views (which sometimes even conflict his own and we discuss alot) i hope he doesn't know about anything...

Now 1month hrt and going on, will they notice their son is trying to become a princess? It will be easier to hide from strangers than in my own house tbqh...
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Why are you hiding that from your parents? Do you think they do not love you?
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>>8838941
Probably

My father is a /polhead/ cunt that jokes about "faggots" all the day, and my mother always says shitty things about trans people
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>>8838815
tbqhon I'd be more ashamed of being a /pol/lack than being trans, get your priorities in order

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>hormones do anything
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>>8838784
It's just a boy with makeup.
Also he was crying a lot before he took that pic.
I'm kinda feeling bad for it so pls don't bully it too much.
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>>8838784
she probably self meds and isn't doing HRT correctly
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>>8838801
t. Hon in denial
>>8838788
Clearly says she's been on hormones for a year.

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Early: <16
Mid: 16-24
Late: >24

How accurate is this?
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>>8838430
tbhon

Early: <13
Mid: 13-16
late: >17
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tfw 26 yo transitioner

maybe being korean might save me
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>>8838432
this tbqhon

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Henlo /tttt/
Did you socially transition before hrt?
If so why? How did it go?
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>If so why?
Because I already passed
>How did it go
It went great
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>>8838296
I've socially transitioned and I'm not on HRT, so technically yes.
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>>8838296
I'm an early transitioner so I never really had to "socially transition".
I have lived as a girl since I was young.

I confess my highschool time was a bit weird though because some guys liked me but I had to tell them the trans thing and then they kinda ran away even though they were all into me a second before.

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I found out too late that FFS is highly ineffective. Overpriced, overrated, but, highly ineffective. FFS can eliminate brow bossing and give you a small chin and a saddled nose, but FFS cannot change the arrangement of the facial bones which is what clocks you. Alas, if I had known earlier what I know today, I would have not transitioned. If you pay close attention, people who get ffs still have a manly face. Please do not confuse shape with scale. A woman can get away with an overly square, angular face because the scale, the arrangement of the bones, the distribution of the features, is immensely different. Men just have a very different facial archetype. Why FFS doctors don't say that?
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>>8837961
We already know, my man.
I hope your post gets stickied so /tttt/ will always remember this axiomatic observation.
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>>8837974
ok, but, sarcasm aside, you just can't deny the truth. Giving a man a surgical vagina is pretty easy and the vagina can look really good (unless you go to a butcher), however, the skull is what clocks people the most. The facial planes are expanded, the features are placed differently. No matter how many times you tell yourself that there are women with square faces, the facial archetype is just different. FFS is overpriced and highly ineffective. Prove me wrong.
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>>8837974
REMEMBER A FEW NODAL CONCEPTS:

1) EXPANDED FACIAL PLANES
2) TRANNIES WANT TO CONFUSE SHAPE WITH SIZE
3) CRANIAL VAULT IS A VERY DIMORPHIC BODY PARTY
4) REAL WOMEN CAN LOOK LIKE WOMEN WITH THEIR HAIR UP, TRANNIES RELY ON IMPRACTICAL, UNREALISTIC HAIRSTYLES

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How do we heal the relationship between HSTS and AGP?
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>>8837848
HSTS need to stop pretending they are trans and start dating transbians.
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>>8837848
it's a false dichotomy, beyond the obvious extreme cases it's more than likely to have characteristics of both types
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>>8837870
tbqhon this this this

Can the Blanchardians here explain why I, as an MtF with late onset (18-20) dysphoria and AGP fetishism until 2 years on HRT, also like both being top and bottom with men, experience significant attraction both manly straight men and feminine, soft spoken gay men, and have had very romantic love for men?
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>>8837659
>experience significant attraction both manly straight men
Meta-attraction.

>and feminine, soft spoken gay men,
Gynephilia, GAMP.

>and have had very romantic love for men?
Just your romantic tastes.
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>>8837725
How is liking gay men who have testosterone in their system, short hair, dress like men, but are soft spoken and just generally cute guys GAMP?
???

How am I meta-attracted to men if my dick literally gets hard for their asses?
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>>8837739
>but are soft spoken and just generally cute guys GAMP?
There are GAMPs who literally like plain crossdressers.

>How am I meta-attracted to men if my dick literally gets hard for their asses?
Bottoming is meta-attraction, topping I don't know. I guess a rare combination of your openness to have sex with guys (from meta-attraction and GAMP) and your male heterosexuality (from not being totally AGP) make you able to enjoy topping manly men.

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TL;DR: Shipping gays obsessively warped my wants and perception in reality, i don't want/can't stop it since every form of media could be a trigger, how do i definetly separate reality and fiction from influencing each other and find out my REAL desires and sexuality from relationships in general?

>Male, 24, virgin but had 2-3 short relationships (2 with girls, 1 with a boy, 1 with a girl currently "in progress")
>Bisexual (at least i think so)
>Almost always sexually attracted to women, romantically open but with deep prejudices/mental barriers/own psychological issues
>Almost never sexually attracted to real life males (you'll see why i specify IRL), but romantically almost always a sucker for them
This would be simply dismissable as "you are bi", and probably is, but what bothers me is that i feel many overlapping issues having a pretty big impact on how i live (or not live, this inner fight keeps me paralyzed) my sexuality and relationships in general. Wall of texts incoming, please be patient and thank you for any help.

These issues i'm talking about are various, some psychological ones surely, but the one i feel having the most impact at the moment is
>Obsession over fictional gay pairings
Pic kinda related, since i am indeed obsessive, but not so much to keep me from living my life (but it DOES represent an obstacle to overcome in relationship pursuing), also at least that anon died of something i know very much about. [1/3]
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I feel ashamed of this because i'm mostly one of the few (if none at all) guys engrossed in it, the rest being females. It goes from mainstream media to anime to /wcg/ comics and whatnot, in the last 3 years i had a huge need to vicariously FEEL (not live, or only slightly, in the "not sexally/romantically involved" areas of my life i'm quite fine) trough the fictional pairing. If the couple does well/becomes canon/gets fanservice, i get all warm, fuzzy and serene. If it can't work, something compromising their "happily ever after" or similiar levels of "delusion-breakers" happen, i get emotionally invested and feel sad, unsatisfied and go trough the stages of grief for days, in the most severe case even a couple of weeks. Strangely, before these 3 years i only shipped hetero pairings, now i accept those but not actively look for them at all, while with gay pairings i can never have enough.
I bring this whole shipping faggotry up because it creates some big fucking problems for me
>unrealistic standards of relationships in general
>HUGE interior conflict about what relationships to pursue
This deserves particular attention. Now if i think of pursuing a girl, my fucked up mind tells me that "it can never be the same as your fantasies, even if she fit all your romantic ideals, she is a girl". If i pursue a boy, the mind tells me "this is fine and dandy, but reality check: do you sexually like this guy? Tought so, girls are hard to beat. Is he up to the fictional standards of your OTP? Not to mention all the social stigma of coming out and just to satisfy your made-up fantasies... get ready cuz i'm injecting you sadness and frustration". [2/3]
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>Self-image/self-esteem/body issues
I know i'm a sad fuck when i feel conscious about my body over some fucking DRAWINGS. They are not the problem by themselves, since i also compare myself to the usual models and what not, but since i've been feeding my obession i've developed a desire for a more lean, balanced, even feminine body, just so that my mind doesn't tell me "You are a fine boy, but you ain't gonna be perfect/deserving of intimacy and sex until you have that fictional drawn body". This isn't only aesthetic of course, it also involves SOCIAL/FLIRTING (in other areas i feel secure of my strenghts and identity) success compared to that of others (both IRL and fictional dudes)
>It's almost an addiction
Almost because i've been fine with prolonged periods of abstinence (like, 2 months before september i just didn't feed my obsession and i haven't had "cravings" at all), but if you were to tell me "you must indulge in shipping anymore" i would be almost scared, like losing a safety blanket.
>Precludes me most forms of media
This is even more shameful to admit, but now i'm almost scared of watching a new movie, series, anime or even fucking books sometimes, because i'm afraid i'll begin just another cycle of shipping, and all the joys and suffering involved. I can't give up on everything fictional because of my fucked up mind, i have to do something about it.
I think a reality check is what i need most now, and i'm trying my best to both live in the moment and increase the time outside the house as much as possible, favouring social interaction most of all. But while this is helping A LOT, once i come back home i don't know what to do or feel, and the mind goes on the whole shipping-mindfuck train again. [3/3]
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What the fuck is "shipping" and why do you sound so crazy and why do my eyes gloss the fuck over looking at this

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