/NGG/ New Gun General

>>28937243
I think it's a good idea. What do you guys think of the vp9 for a starter handgun?

>>28937243

tl;dr

/k/ I want remington 7615 is good or is shit?

>>28937260
I am pretty sure /k/'s general consensus is that it is a good gun

>>28937243
Arsenal SAM7-SF

If you get a M1A, dont get that crap in your picture. Get a 'Loaded' with at least the tuned trigger kit, NM barrel (NOT stainless), and NM sights. Or save up and buy a SCAR17.

If you dont have much money, look into a Benelli Nova, and get into skeet shooting.

>>28937260
There are numerous better options out there. A fullsize pistol in 9mm should hold 17 rounds MINIMUM. Honestly, you can never go wrong with a Glock19 non-Gen4. And if you look around online, you can get a threaded barrel, so you basically have the velocity of a fullsize handgun in a more comfy package. They usually only cost aroudn $40-50 more than a regular.

>>28937264
looks like a gimmick, but whatever floats your boat.

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>>28937331
>>28937243
Forgot to say budget is around 1300 but I would be willing to go up (1500-1800) for something good I definitely don't want to drop scar money though which seems to be around 2500+

>>28937385
try 2750+

its always a buy once, cry once affair.

>>28937331
After a quick Google and all what makes the sam7-sf so expensive? The sgl seem to be about 900-1.1k ish and the sam7 1.4-1.7k
I don't know much about AK pattern rifles

>>28937464
they go for just about the same. maybe 1.2-1.3k. Dont go off MSRP.

Ive seen them go as low as 1000-1100 for holidays.

>>28937331
Not op, but what's wrong with the stainless Loaded? I have one and the contrast between the barrel and the black fiberglass stock looks really nice.

>>28937485
its heavier for literally no reason.

>>28937260

No

Get anything else by H&K, the vp9 is probably one of their worst products. Are you set on 9 but don't like glocks? CZ's are a good choice. Maybe a P30? USPC in 9?

What's even the point of an M1A other than cool factor? I heard they are some of the more inaccurate 308s you can buy.

>>28937517
What's the point of half the guns you, or I, or a third anon own? There is no point, no need, no greater purpose other than want.

>>28937517
>>28937534
And they are cool as fuck

I've read about 2 or 3 moa is normal and with the NM barrels they do even better

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>>28937243
I second >>28937331 as far as his advice on the M1A

>pic related

Hi /k/,

Norwegian here. I'm gonna get my hunting license this year, but I don't have a clue as to which rifle to get. Also, I'm getting the hunting license so I can buy a rifle and take it down to the range, not to hunt. A friend of mine bought a Remington 700 last year and modded the hell out of it, loads his own rounds and does long range precision shooting with it for fun. This looks really fun, so I want to get into it.

So, for range shooting, something that's relatively easy to mod yourself, easy to use, decent price range, what should I look into? There are a lot of available brands, but I have no idea.

>>28937534
>>28937550
I said other than the cool factor. One point would be getting better accuracy out of a .308 unless we don't care about that. I wasn't challenging OP's choice. I was just asking. Sorry if it came off as a loaded question.

>>28937553
Remington 700 like your friend

>>28937576
It's more of a battle rifle to me not a comp rifle you want to be able to hit a torso at 500-800 yards and call it a day
No need to apologize anon we love you here

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M1A thread?
Here's my Commifornia-legal Loaded M1A.

>>28937597
Caliber? It comes in 223, 22-250, 308W, 3006, 300WS.Mag and 300Win.Mag. I guess it can either shoot all those, or you have to choose?

>>28937675
You pick one
I recommend 308 because it is easy to find and relatively cheap
It can be used to hunt also

>>28937624
>Commifornia-legal
What's the difference other than a 10 round mag?

>>28937739
Muzzle brake

>>28937597
Remington 700s are shit, that's why people spend 2-3k on aftermarket parts.

Get a Tikka t3 and shoot 1moa out of the box.

>>28937703
Cool, thanks man.

>>28937742
...explain

>>28937739
Literally nothing, he's a like a vegan.

>>28937761
Flash hiders hurt Feinstein's fee fees, so they are a no no. In answer to this, Springfield made a muzzle brake that it puts on all their M1As headed for California. You can also buy it from their website if you like the look of it, plus it supposedly grants a noticeable improvement in the rifle's accuracy.

>>28937786
The amount of wrong.
Own An AR with a flash hider, m1a's at turners have flash hiders or brakes.

>>28937751
I'll look into the Tikka T3 as well, thanks man. Pretty much the same price it seems.

>>28937808
>own an AR with a flash hider

So do I, some companies ignore unenforceable laws, some don't.

/k/, I want a bolt action .308. After a couple years in nuggetmode, I want a innawoods-capable gun with the following: <20" barrel, <9lbs unloaded, and versatile scope options. I am intrigued by the Savage, Tikka, and Steyr .308s in particular, but comparable rifles are welcome.

>>28937848
They are made in finland, so if you order one it'll get to you faster to.

>>28937867
See
>>28937751

>>28937509
The memes.

It's like you're reading from script.

>>28937867
Consider a ruger american they have a lot of options

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Just picked this bad boy up used for $290 with two full mags of personal defense ammo and a OWB holster. Previous owner says he put 500 through the pipe. How'd I do?

>>28937881
Any models of T3 in particular I should look at for that innawoods gun? Their website is tricky to look at for a quick glance on specs

>>28937952
Personally? The hunter fluted

>>28937872
True. I won't be able to buy a gun until after summer so I'll have a lot of time to read up. Now I know a couple of guns to look at though. I gotta ask my friend how much he spent on aftermarket parts for his 700.

>>28938023
You mentioned long range shooting, how long are we talking?

>>28938081
My buddy is mostly shooting at about 450 yards with his 700. As far as he told me, when he gets close to 750 yards or so the groupings tend be spread across a 1,5 feet diameter.

I'm probably gonna have to make a compromise between range/accuracy and cost, but if possible 1000 yards would be really fun. Do note that I've never shot anything but a 22 though, lol.

>>28938185
1k is rough with .308, despite its popularity it has really shitty ballistics.

>>28937867
http://www.ruger.com/products/gunsiteScoutRifle/models.html might be up your alley

http://cz-usa.com/product/cz-557-carbine-30-06-walnut-stock-fixed-magazine-iron-sights/ also does things to my peepee but I'm left handed so fuck me right?

>>28938199
Ah, that's gonna have to be a consideration then. Which caliber would work for 1K? Something that's compatible with either the 700 or the T3 obviously.

>>28938185
308 will be a big step. 22-250 is a super speed 22 not much recoil
243 is not much recoil and can reach out pretty far it's a common round but don't expect to punch more than paper past. 243 is a solid overall gun

So I recommended 308 before but consider 243 instead if this is your first time with anything larger than 22

>>28938221
6.5 creedmoor hits 1500 all day long.

>>28937553
Remington 700 is a great starting place. Proven performance, tons of aftermarket parts, and it doesn't have a massive sticker shock. There's a reason why it's still one of the most popular bolt action rifles to this day.

>>28938227
>>28938221
Past 1000 yards
Some people hunt coyotes in Montana out to 1000+ with 243

My uncle (he's a big big Hunter in Montana) claims to have hit and killed them close to a mile but also said it took a lot of luck and a good number of bullets
He works for the forest service so I believe his range estimate

>>28938253
>There's a reason why it's still one of the most popular bolt action rifles to this day.
Because Americans are dumb enough to think "the military uses it, it must be good"

When 700s in the military are actually about 3-4k

>>28937943
You didn't get ripped off, but you didn't get a score either. Pretty much market price.

>>28938227
>>28938270
Well, I'm probably not gonna hunt with it at all, so that's not much of a factor for me. I'm taking this up as a hobby. I gotta say, after having started to look into guns just a tiny bit, I kinda understand the obsession Americans have over them. Not the whole self defense thing, but the technical stuff in and of itself is super interesting.

>>28938253
I'm definitely gonna look at the 700 in comparison to the T3, see what I end up with.

>>28938215
>http://cz-usa.com/product/cz-557-carbine-30-06-walnut-stock-fixed-magazine-iron-sights/
Ooh, if I went with a more scout-y build this would be able to do stripper clips, which is nifty

What would be a good 357 lever gun? Price <1000 virginia dollars

>>28937808
>Own An AR with a flash hider
Yes, and you have a bullet button. If the M1A had a flash hider it would need a bullet button as well, which defeats the entire point of having an M1A in California (not to mention they don't exist I don't think).