This is your daily reminder that in the US, a mental health care provider can keep entirely subjective notes about what he perceives as your mental state, never allow you access to those notes and present them to law enforcement to be used to deny you your civil rights. Especially the right to keep and bear arms.
Or, you know, just don't take a bunch of psychotropic chemicals foisted upon you by the pharmaceutical industry without any real understanding of how they actually work.
That whole "chemical imbalance" theory of depression? You should know that nobody has ever proven that scientifically. So every SSRI administered in the world is done so without a fundamental understanding of how it works. Some people get Happy Pills and feel happy. Some people get Happy Pills, develop bipolar disorder and blow their own heads off. When questioned about this, the industry essentially just says "Well, they were depressed anyway. Shit happens.".
Yeah, no. Psychology is the height of quackery and antidepressants are basically just the newest thing in a long line of fucked up "treatments" for "mental illness". Right behind lobotomies, shock therapy and cold water baths.
Ever been to a shrink? I have. Dumb bitch had me doing fucking homework. "What do you like least about yourself?" What do I like least about myself? The fact that I'm paying $300/week for some twat to talk to me and offer absolutely no beneficial commentary. I would literally have been better off hiring a hooker every friday. Told the shrink that, too. Of course, I just got another noncommittal non-answer.
Fuck shrinks. I'm not pickling my brain with a bunch of unproven chemistry and I'm not doing 6th grade-level homework. I'm especially not going to put my right to own firearms in the hands of some twat who keeps secret notes about me that she may or may not present to law enforcement as proof that I should be denied my civil rights.
>>28906055 >treatment for my severe depression and anxiety By being a man and stop being an emotional panzy. Only excuse to be depressed is if you have a terminal illness, or if you were born a manlet.
>>28906272 Learning to cope with this misery is key. It's all to easy to let it consume you. It takes time and work to rewire your brain to think differently. It's like lifting weights, it could take your whole life to get as strong as you'd like to be, but at least every day you'll get a little stronger.
I have tried every nutritional therapy and I even have been doing x-country running since I was like 16. Depression is real. People who do not have clinical depression cannot comprehend the difference but the difference between being situationally sad and clinically depressed is immense.
IME, the only thing I can base any advice to the OP, major depression has been best treated with SSRIs for me.
I have had it since I was 16. And I have been against prescription medications for psychiatric reasons my whole life. I still think way too many people who dont have anything wrong with them clinically are getting free mind-candies, but I do know from personal experience and talking with others that it does help those who need it immensely.
Hey, lots of people said their lobotomies improved their lives, too. A few others didn't say shit afterwards because they were too busy playing in their own feces.
You are taking a chemical who nobody fully understands that may very well end up increasing your risk of behaviors that it was especially intended to prevent. My mother takes antidepressants. Has tried for years to get me to take them too. Of course, she becomes deeply suicidal whenever they send her the generic version or her meds get too warm in the mailbox. But I need that shit because I'm the alcoholic. My mother has fried her brain on antidepressants and my brother is addicted to Valium but I'm the addict because I go through a fifth of bourbon every other week. Being dependant upon something Big Pharma pushes=good, occasionally using a recreation drug from Kentucky=bad.
Yeah, no. I'll keep my Wild Turkey, you keep chemically fucking your brain with Pfizer's stock margins.
>>28906244 This. you can absolutely seek treatment for things like depression or anxiety and they have no effect on you owning guns.... unless you live in a shit hole like New Jersey. and like anon has pointed out they really have no way of finding out about your treatments. either way I still wouldn't let gun people know you have depression and I wouldn't let depression people know you have guns.
Cure to "depression" 1.) Get a start on a career or job path 2.) Work as much as you can and/or take classes as much as you can 3.) Invest in your hobby and spend your downtime working on whatever you love instead of constant TV/Internet. 4.) Get a dog or pet that can love you back. 5.) Get a significant other who treats you well and can give you sex. Along with motivation to get out the house. 6.) Start forcing yourself to interact with people more and force yourself to make small-talk and be friendly. 7.) Start working out regularly scheduled and stick to it. 8.) Eat a balanced diet, I eat a paleo diet and that seems to be helping me a lot.
Depression is a perfectly sane response to modern domestic living as far as I'm concerned and I think most of /k/s heroes would be just as bored and miserable in our time.
As much as I hate for /k/ommandoes to think I'm a pussy or less of a man than they are I'm depressed currently myself and frankly a large factor of that is it is mid winter. The following is just what's working for me;
I recently learned about the book Flow by Mihaly Csikszentmihaly I don't necessarily recommend the book itself (I'm only a few chapters in and they make me want to top myself) but the concept at it's core sums up how I've always got out of depression personally. Well the full way was through regular physical exercise and especially weight lifting but I think this flow concept is the psychological core underneath all the chemical and biological benefits your body rewards you with for pushing it to it's limit.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flow_(psychology) I've been tying complex decorative knots in work to use this to get me through the days and it works as on the spot relief.
I never went for professional help before because i thought it would stand in the way of gun ownership and a military career those days are passed now anyway but I'm pretty much on top of getting through on my own. That said the best antiDepressant by far is leading a good fulfilling life. That's easily said but if you're having a shit one it is worth considering just getting as far away as possible and doing something cool for a while. I'm considering doing a long bushcraft course somewhere beautiful in the summer.
As far as anxiety is concerned I don't have much of a problem with that but I did get over my fear of heights while working up ships masts by using 'Tactical Breathing' meditation. I found it on a SealFit video and thought it would be a load of shite but it worked a treat and really improved most aspects of my life actually and I highly reccomend it.
SSRIs do absolutely nothing other than cause addiction
source: i have been on and off antidressants for the last 11 years and have had no significant changes to my mental state of being chronically depressed other than having my mind numbed and emotions dulled while on the meds.
have recently decided to quit being dependent on someone else for my happiness after a 3 year stint of being medicated, it has been 6 months since i have had my last dose and the only notable changes to my mental state are increased mental acuity. because of this fact i feel it would be safe to say that psyche meds are actually a detriment as the only noticeable affect they have had on me is decreased alertness and cognitive problems.
always remember, a patient cured is a customer lost, though dr shekelstein would have you believe different.
>>28906440 What did you expect her to do or say? You wanted to get some mind blowing speech telling you exactly what to do to fix the issues you don't even understand after having only met the woman for 10 minutes?
You went in not wanting to change, obviously are still opposed to the idea of change, and yet you thought it's entirely HER fault for not fixing you?
You want "REAL" help and insight? Okay here it goes, you've got serious misogynistic tendencies, probably severe autism, and anger issues. You are extremely likely to be a faggot that snaps one day and kills chilluns, thus fueling the liberal gun control agenda. My prescription to you is a 9mm pill injected directly to your crazy ass brain at a high velocity.
>>28906440 >>28906589 Eh, I endorse the basic sentiment. Apart from drugs, therapy pretty much consists of 1) simple algorithmic shit that can actually be very useful in keeping you from getting too fucked up acutely--helps take the edge off when you're sitting there thinking you want to die. but this stuff is also available in cognitive behavioral therapy workbooks and the like for free, or near enough as makes no difference. 2) someone paying attention to you and being nice to you for an hour once a week. Cf hookers or legit massage therapists, and consider that physical touch seems to have various important mental health effects. (On the other hand, most universities have free shrinks, but not, sadly, free hookers.).
>>28906497 >Flow by Mihaly Csikszentmihaly Good rec.
>>28906055 nope. Soon as you go see a shrink they'll have you on eight different watch lists. You'll get the same FBI scrutiny as some asshole in a neo nazi militia and the atf will be foaming at the mouth to take your guns and shoot your dog. don't do it OP, smoke a j or drink a couple of beers at night and start working out. Does wonders for the self esteem and the venting of stress helps get rid of the depression. Making a move or job change can also help, it your career makes you feel like you're going nowhere.
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