>>28897087 I'm not sure if you realize just how much is wrong with the factual context of ALL hyper realistic videogames. This is the "Wrestler watching wrestling" paradox.
Those who have done it in real life instantly see through all of the bullshit. You have never played a videogame that is near as realistic as you assume it must have been. They all may as well be a soap opera shootout. It's all gay and unrealistic. Don't fool yourself man
>>28897087 >realistic >all those wall breaches not collapsing the structures >those spray and pray guns >that ridiculous damage model that reduces damage to arms and legs as your rating increases, even though that not how modern armor works >infinite barricade supply >all of the shit all of them carry >only sending in 5 operators in stead of 3 for every confirmed hostile
it's not realistic at all, and to be honest, I can accept females in police forces.
but frost in the JTF2, and this "leaked' female DEVGRU operator is retarded, and an insult to DEVGRU
I know you are baiting, but google Sue Aikens. Google the "Night Witches". Just because our lifestyle has a habit of producing frail women (and frankly many frail men) does not mean we have always done so.
My grandmother worked her own land, raised and slaughtered chickens, dipped snuff out of a jar, and hunted snakes after Church in her Sunday's best with a .410. She also whelped 16 children by two husbands that she outlived.
She was also overly superstitious and probably had the equivalent of today's 6th grade education. We have fixed many issues with education and living conditions, but we do appear to have lost some in the process. Hopefully we can regain some of that grit previous generations needed to survive.
ITT: OP is a neckbeard faggot who gets buthurt over fictional games >>28897087 >a game that thrives on being as realistic as possible >thrives on being as realistic as possible >being as realistic as possible >realistic as possible >realistic also you dont fucking know what thrives means.
On a serious note women are actually important in special forces. For intellgence purposes, they won't ever be strong enough to be suited for actual combat roles and it would be a disgrace to lower the standards because of women.
But in countries like Afghanistan women aren't allowed to talk to other men but they are allowed to talk to women, and a lot of information travel through women in those countries. When the soviets were in afghanistan they realized that the female red cross doctors had better intel than the KGB because they could tap into the female gossip network.
Hilariously enough sexism is the reason that we need women as intelligence operators.
>>28897845 Some special forces actually have dedicated positions for that so they have women who won't be completely useless and a burden to the real operators but all they do is intellgence work. They don't want to babysit POG's so they train some of the more hardcore women to be not completely useless.
>>28897052 >>28897052 Does it make you feel bad that this fictional video game - a form of escapism I might add - depicts women operating while your fat ass struggles to leave the basement so you need mommy to bring down your Doritos during your crying fits about how you've never even shot a gun?
>b- b- but it's not realistic
If you play video games for realism than you're about as autistic as they come.
>>28897052 >being butthurt about female characters in videogames you are not in the military. your country won't lose wars because women are in the military. female antiterror cops won't make your chances of being beheaded by muslims bigger. you are a pathetic omega manchild who should grow the fuck up and stop projecting your sexual frustration onto persons you feel obliged to be attracted to. it's your own fault that you are not getting laid.
Funny thing is, most of the European CT and special police units do allow women, and they're held to the same standards as men. You see the occasional chick mixed in with them. Europe in general doesn't have the same lowered standards for women, and most countries allow them to serve in infantry. The women actually do their jobs in the military, and they have the respect of the men because of it. It's a lot different from the US.
Also keep in mind that the standards for urban SWAT style police units are different. Less emphasis on load carrying and long term endurance, because they're expected to travel less and have a lot more support from home base.
Also keep in mind that Rainbow recruits smart people of all backgrounds, and every operator is basically a genius. The shooting and physical training is easier to work on, and even women can be taught to shoot well and clear rooms.
And remember, it's not real. It's a video game. If it were realistic, all the operators would be mostly Americans with CIA, DEVGRU, or CAG experience, with the occasional European guy and a couple of Russians for when they want to make sure the hostages don't talk too. Having girls doesn't negatively affect the gameplay.
>>28897087 lets get one thing straight, rainbow six siege is NOT realistic it is an arcade shooter 1 shot headshot no matter what gun no matter what armor >wew lad shotgun spread 10 feet at 10 feet >wew lad womynz n shiet >wew lad the list goes on
When you hear of the GIGN, you think of the historical GIGN. It doesn't really exist anymore. It was merged with other units some years ago to create a "super" GIGN (they just kept the name, as a brand) in order to face new form of terrorism (like in Russia, India, and they were right, see Paris attacks). No women in the GIGN at that time, but some women were in the EPIGN (intelligence...). When the unit was merged with the GIGN, they kept that role in the new GIGN. But there are no female in assault role (the actual, historical, GIGN).
As for the standards, they're to the standards of their sub unit, not the same standards of the GIGN as a whole.
Like a post mention in the thread, there are women in the RAID also, and recently, they were training 2 female snipers
Thanks for proving my point. Bullying and insults are not very effective when both sides are essentially using the same attack, so the only thing that is accomplished is further solidifying the intended target's loyalty to one camp or another.
>You side with feminism because you're a abused pussy whipped cuck, or because you think taking that position will help you get laid
>You don't side with women because you've been abused by women, or because you can't get laid.
Furthermore, there is nothing new about about the "strong, independnt women" archetype seen in entertainment media, that's been a trend since atleast the late 70s. As I said, rainbow six has always had female characters in that role. So now we are in a bizarre situation where 3rd feminists act as if this is not case, and there has been a discernible push put these kinds of characters into entertainment media...even though they are already there (ex the controversies surrounding "black widow" in the Avengers franchise", or the supposed "new" feminism of the Tomb Raider series even though it was a series that aways had a woman in the leading role)
What I think is really going on here is that prior to about 2008, the majority of writers and directors and creative talent producing content were not 3rd feminists, and thus even though they were putting females into action roles, these were not the "right" kind of female characters, and the reaction to this push mainly stems for that, so because of that there will be added scrutiny anytime a female character fits into this trope.
Yeah that's kind of a bad argument. If the people behind this game were making Quake 5 Arena, then realism wouldn't be an issue. The fact that the game makes any pretenses at all towards being "tactical" means realism is going to be more important than play balance. I don't there really is much room for compromise. What you end up getting with modern military shooters something where the "game" aspects aren't fun because the gameplay has been watered down for the sake of authenticity, and the "simulation" aspect isn't fun because the authenticity has watered down for the sake of gameplay. Personally I think would rather just play Quake 5, and the sales for current generation shooters indicates a lot of people feel the way I do.
>>28902070 Actually, you missed mine. My point was that OP was being an autistic asshat simply because there were girls in his vidya. It's a VIDEO GAME. It's a form of ESCAPISM. It's not meant to be "muh sooper seerius reel lyfe."
>>28902917 It's a phenomenon amongst gamers whose lives are so pathetic that they demand ultra-realism in their vidya gaymes so they can live vicariously through them as super-operational operator bad asses. And delude themselves into thinking that if they are good at a super-cereal realistic game, then that translates into being just as capable in real life.
And now you hopefully understand the appeal of ARMA and other shit like that, too.
>My point was that OP was being an autistic asshat simply because there were girls in his vidya.
I would imagine the reason he thinks that is because virtually all entertainment media has been under pressure lately to include bechdel test approved woman characters, so because of this there has been a major backlash against any strong female characters in entertainment, he's not right about in this particular case, or at least I don't think he is, but he is correct to notice the pattern.
>Twitch hired by Rainbow because of some cutting-edge beep boop drone she invented >IQ hired by Rainbow because of some cutting-edge EM sensor she invented >Ash hired by Rainbow because Jewish connections >Frost hired by Rainbow because of native american diversity quota
Makes perfect sense, physical performance doesn't factor into it.
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