Sure but I think most of them you could at least try to run away, or they were over somewhat quickly. I can't imagine being on a ship that won't sink getting pounded at point blank range from numerous other ships and battleships in a blazing inferno.
I mean, if you know of another worst last stand let me know. There's just something about being on the water like that that is so isolating and terrifying.
But there was never a sense of impending doom. It was surrounded by a fleet. There were no warships in sight.
The Bismarck's sailors literally knew that they were going to die for 24 hours. They were sailing in circles. They were under air attack all night long and in the morning the entire British fleet appeared and pounded them...and it didn't sink...and it just got pounded by HUNDREDS of shells for hours.
You're separated from your tour group. You could never get lost right? Your sense of direction is too good. And yet here you are, wandering aimlessly over a mile under the earth. Trying to stay calm you call out on occasion, straining your ears to hear some sort of call back as your echos fade into the miles of unmapped caves. Its cold now, maybe because you're alone and there isnt other bodies to warm the ambient temperature. One thing is for sure, this tremor inducing chill is nothing like the pleasant cool you first felt as you descended into the underbelly of the earth's fertile surface. You've been down here hours, trying to head in a generally upward direction. Your headlamp is beginning to dim. You swallow your panic as you can see less and less. Why does it have to go dark so fast? For a fleeting moment you think of how you first marveled at the sights likely no man had witnessed before, down here in Hades' domain. Now you desperately want some glimpse of a light of the outside world, or a sound. Something, anything. As you walk the realization creeps into the recesses of your mind that you may very well die here, and you desperately try to push those thoughts away. Dont think about that pink elephant. In your delirium you think you hear footsteps behind you, so you stop. Nothing. You start, they start. You stop, they stop. You call out, but get no response but your own scared voice. They're echos of your footsteps, there's no other explanation. The largest living things here are blind crickets or something; you remember reading that back at the visitor's center. Still, you cant help but notice as you start moving again that there is a disparity between the pattern of your steps and the ones behind you. The light is so dim you have to strain to see your feet. You make it another couple hundred yards before the light finally fades into black. You sit down, resigned to your fate.
Only then do you hear the first noise in hours that you know you didn't make.
Google some survivor stories. It's insane. I can't believe that anyone survived. British battleships were literally pouring shells in at literally point blank range with no return fire, but the Bismarck never ran up surrender and the British naval officers had second thoughts about it but kept up the fire. The Bismarck was finally sunk by a combination of scuttling and torpedoes after the British battleships ran out of ammo.
"A total of 2,876 shells were fired at Bismarck from 0847-1019, most at relatively close ranges (see Table 4)."
>>28863226 >But there was never a sense of impending doom.
Yes there was. The Yamato and nine other ships were deliberately sent on a suicide mission to attack the American forces at Okinawa. The crew of the Yamato knew they were going to their deaths the instant they were given their orders.
>>28864283 You're moving the goalposts. You said there was never any sense of impending doom for the Yamato and her crew, when you're 100% utterly wrong in every way.
Operation Ten-Go was a suicide mission planned from the very start. The goal was to sent the Yamato and whatever ship they still had that could float into their deaths, thrown against impossible odds. They all knew they were going to their deaths when they received their orders.
>>28864283 Was the Bismarck surrounded on all sides by an entire fleet of carriers, battleships, destroyers, and battlecruisers, AND a sky full of nearly 400 aircraft?
Stop trying to compare them as if they're even comparable. Both crews of both ships went through hell.
>At 13:33, in a desperate attempt to keep the ship from capsizing, Yamato's damage control team counter-flooded both starboard engine and boiler rooms. This mitigated the danger but also drowned the several hundred crewmen manning those stations, who were given no notice that their compartments were about to fill with water.
1) Being a German zeppelin crewman after the brits invented incendiary rounds. Often the first sign you were under attack would be the sound of flames, and the red glow coming from the back of the zeppelin. Then, your only options would be to stay on board and burn to death, or bail out without a parachute.
2) Being on the IJN Chikuma. It was sunk at the Battle Off Samar. Survivors were picked up by the IJN Nowaki, which was in turn sunk the next day. Only ONE Chikuma crewman is believed to have survived both sinkings.
>>28864956 just fuck subs in general. i'd have trouble being on a destroyer, let alone a sub somewhat of a different perspective, but I think being part of the cuban missile crisis naval blockade would've been hell. sitting there, not sure if you are gonna see the beginning of the apocalypse, or if you will die, or whats gonna happen. more of a mental hell than anything else, but still
>>28862828 yeah a few that actually happened come to mind, but my first thought when i saw this thread >The Battle of Umbara during the clone wars It included the 501st legion and the 212th Attack battalion, who were under the General Pong Krell's leadership. >The planet was in perpetual darkness, the enemy was constantly lurking in the shadows and had artillery vehicles far surpassing what the clone soldiers had at their disposal. >But that doesnt even begin the hell trip. General Krell was harsh on his men and did not care how many were killed, letting many die refusing retreating even when they were outnumbered. >And after all this, he tells his men the Umbaran natives have stolen clone armor and weapons in an attempt to disguise themselves and told the 2 respective legions/battalions that the enemies who had done this were at a specific location and to get the surprise attack. >Unbeknownst to the clones he was leading them to a trap, the clones then opened fire on who they believed to be the enemy >in truth they were killing each other, Krell pitted the two battalions against one another, causing the men to slaughter their brothers >it was only realized that they were fighting each other when after killing an "enemy" Captain Rex of the 501st saw the helmet coming off reveling he was a clone could you imagine the fucking damage that would do to your mind, its hellish. Killing so many only to realize they were your own brothers and watching as the many died slowly and painfully with no medical help its pretty fucked up >inb4 "its not a real battle aboohooboo"
>nobody mentioning the Tokyo firestorm of 1923 after the earthquake
>Because the earthquake struck at lunchtime when many people were cooking meals over fire, many people died as a result of the many large fires that broke out. Some fires developed into firestorms that swept across cities. Many people died when their feet became stuck on melting tarmac. The single greatest loss of life was caused by a fire tornado that engulfed the Rikugun Honjo Hifukusho (formerly the Army Clothing Depot) in downtown Tokyo, where about 38,000 people were incinerated after taking shelter there following the earthquake. The earthquake broke water mains all over the city, and putting out the fires took nearly two full days until late in the morning of September 3. An estimated 6,400 people died[inconsistent] and 381,000 houses were destroyed by the fire alone.
>obey authorities, take shelter in an empty field at an Army depot >fire rages all around the city >it gets closer >suddenly fire tornadoes >you start to feel the heat >38,000 people panic, watch the tornadoes rip into the edges of the crowd, picking up entire families >getting trampled would be a merciful, fortunate death
>>28862828 Probably Mikuma after Midway. >Collide with sister ship after your side loses all air power in the area >towed along at a snails pace under constant allied attack and finally explode because your fire control officer wouldn't jettison the torpedoes in storage overboard
Blinded in a snowstorm, her radar knocked out, for thirteen hours she battled the Duke of York, 1 heavy cruiser, 3 light cruisers and 9 destroyers. She took 52 salvos and a dozen torpedoes before she capsized, her guns still blazing as she rolled. 36 men of 1,969 was saved.
> "Gentlemen, the battle against Scharnhorst has ended in victory for us. I hope that if any of you are ever called upon to lead a ship into action against an opponent many times superior, you will command your ship as gallantly as Scharnhorst was commanded today" -Admiral Bruce Frasier
>Cap Arcona's final use was as a prison ship. In May 1945 she was heavily laden with prisoners from Nazi concentration camps when the Royal Air Force sank her, killing about 5,000 people; with more than 2,000 further casualties in the sinkings of the accompanying vessels of the prison fleet; SS Deutschland and Thielbek. This was one of the biggest single-incident maritime losses of life in the Second World War.
>>28863165 I shit you not, I had a great-great uncle that survived. From what I have been told, he was the only one in his squad left alive. I don't have any confirmation as he died before I was born, but he survived nonetheless. My dad said he was salty as fuck, but whenever you would ask him about WWII at all, he would just break down in tears. Really sad.
>>28866287 To be fair >As Wilhelm Gustloff had been fitted with anti-aircraft guns, and the Germans, in obedience to the rules of war, did not mark her as a hospital ship, no notification of her operating in a hospital capacity had been given and, as she was transporting military personnel, she did not have any protection as a hospital ship under international accords.
>>28866393 Oh no, it was an awful thing and a senseless waste of life, it's just a technically-legal senseless waste of life common to war, which wehraboos would probably like to overlook while citing it as an example that 'the allies were just as bad!'
Was it a refugee ship? Yes. Was it legally protected in any way (i.e. as a hospital ship)? No. So it was a (technically) legitimate target, even if a tragic one.
being a Latvian soldier in 1939: >Soviets barge in >year later your army is absorbed into Red Army >year later Germans attack >you are in Ukraine or some shit >you are captured by Germans >you are forced to join SS >later you are captured by NKVD >the most positive thing in your life at that point is that they can only execute you once.
Conduct an honourable Convoy raiding early in the war, then having to scuttle the Graf Spee before the Uruguay government takes the ship after she was rendered inoperable by the British.
>Langsdorff was taken to the Naval Hotel in Buenos Aires, where he wrote letters to his family and superiors. He wrote on 19 December 1939:
>"I can now only prove by my death that the fighting services of the Third Reich are ready to die for the honour of the flag. I alone bear the responsibility for scuttling the panzerschiff Admiral Graf Spee. I am happy to pay with my life for any possible reflection on the honour of the flag. I shall face my fate with firm faith in the cause and the future of the nation and of my Führer."
>He lay on Admiral Graf Spee's battle ensign and shot himself, forestalling any allegations that he had avoided further action through cowardice. Another motivation was Langsdorff's desire to go down with the Graf Spee. He was talked out of such an action by his officers, who convinced him that his leadership was still needed in seeking amnesty for his crew. Once the fate of the Graf Spee's crew was decided, Langsdorff killed himself over her ensign as a symbolic act of going down with his ship.
>Hans Langsdorff was buried in the German section of the La Chacarita Cemetery in Buenos Aires, Argentina and was honoured by both sides in the battle for his honourable conduct. The town of Ajax Ontario, a noted Naval community in Canada even named a street after him.
Hindsight is 20/20. There was at least a relief force coming to get them and they did come fairly close. They always had hope of relief until the end. Only now do we know that they really had little chance.
The Bismarck's men knew 100% that there was no relief coming, at all, once their rudder got hit.
>>28866301 Then the British sailed away leaving hundreds of survivors in the water as they also did with Bismark, claiming that U-Boats were near even though they knew from Ultra intercepts that they weren't. In the Bismark's case they just wanted revenge for the Hood, so the the survivors were left to die..
>>28866412 Even if the Soviets knew it was a hospital ship, they'd still torp the fuck out of it. Nazis are capitalist. Jews are capitalist. Poland is Capitalist. Finland is Capitalist. The streets of the USSR were paved in Capitalist blood and the Soviets didn't care if they were innocent or not. The moment Stalin realized Germany's curbstomp was over it became a massive Communist land grab, and fuck everyone who got in their way. >Stopped before Germany's border to go south and lengthening the war so they could take land >Making unrealistic demands from Finland who tried to negotiate for peace before a shot was even fired just so they could invade and take more land. >Not honoring Japan's surrender and killing off retreating forces for a week so they could take more land. >The rape of Berlin that nobody really gave a fuck about because Nazis. Not even a wehraboo but fuck communists using every war as an all you can eat clay buffet.
Please get terms correct. And they started to pick them up but then stopped - presumably because they saw a periscope. But that is pretty flimsy and in reality they knew there were no subs around and they were pissed off that the Hood got shreked.
>>28872518 the times i did get away i dove deep, ran silent and zigzagged all over and waited and zigzagged and wait more
too often i would try running away from the destroyer in a straight line and launching torpedoes from the rear tubes back at it and end up getting raped did get a couple destroyer hits though also waited too long to dive and actually had part of the destroyer bow hit my sub
>>28870479 >Even if the Soviets knew it was a hospital ship, they'd still torp the fuck out of it I'm not sure what's being argued here (A) That they would have torpedoed a ship protected as a hospital ship under international law (B) That they shouldn't have torpedoed a ship that wasn't protected under international law. The former is redundant since it doesn't describe the reality of the situation, and the latter is somewhat unreasonable.
Yamashiro had the distinction of being the last battleship to be sunk by another battleship, being on the receiving end of gunfire from eight cruisers and six battleships, as well as being torpedoed up to six times and surviving an aerial attack earlier in the battle of the Surigao Strait.
>>28862828 >>28863200 >>trapped in a submarine This, probably. In most other deaths at sea, you have at least the slim chance of choosing whether to jump or not.
>>28870479 Given the treatment the Germans meted out to Russian POWs and civilians, I can see why the guys on the submarine might not have been too conflicted about the decision to sink her.
>>28878850 I've talked to veterans who landed on the beaches on D Day, and they all agree that the film was the most accurate depiction they'd seen, but a lot had mentioned how the film was much louder than they remembered it.
>>28862828 being a Wehrmacht or SS soldier in the Battle of Seelow Heights >trying to defend yourself and Berlin against ~1Million angry and motivated soviet soldiers that want to shank your ass and rape your frauleins srsly, fuck that shit
>>28866601 >>28866634 Actually a large number of Latvians Legion members ended up being the guards at Nuremberg. I think the same for the other Balts too. And of those a lot ended up settling in the US.
But for being on topic: The Mule Shoe Salient at Spotsylvania was pretty fucking brutal. 24 straight hours of hand to hand combat in the rain.
Well they did eventually scuttle it but to be honest I think they would have run up the colors sooner but command and control broke down because the captain and his entire staff was dead not to mention nearly everyone else.
All trademarks and copyrights on this page are owned by their respective parties. Images uploaded are the responsibility of the Poster. Comments are owned by the Poster.
This is a 4chan archive - all of the shown content originated from that site. This means that 4Archive shows their content, archived. If you need information for a Poster - contact them.
If a post contains personal/copyrighted/illegal content, then use the post's [Report] link! If a post is not removed within 24h contact me at firstname.lastname@example.org with the post's information.