I was just hired to work at a small local bakery and start tomorrow. This will be the first place I've worked that doesn't have an explicit "if you have a carry license, please carry" policy, and I'm not sure how (or even if) I should approach the subject.
The owner a nice religious middle-aged white guy, so I figured it could go either way. If he's anti/neutral I don't want to come off as a psychopath by asking if I can bring a weapon to work, especially since I'm brand new. Since I have to wear a tucked-in shirt, I can't easily just carry anyway. I could wear my .380 in a tuckable holster, but the clips would be showing, and I'd feel on edge the whole time since I wouldn't have permission and the gun would (in my mind) be partially exposed.
What would /k/ do? Since I came to the US I've been carrying 24/7, even at work, so this new job is quite the change. I'm not paranoid about anything happening, it's just what I've grown to be comfortable with. Not carrying is like forgetting my phone or wallet at home.
Also, while we're on the subject, who here carries at work? What/how do you carry, and do you have permission?
I already addressed this.
>I could wear my .380 in a tuckable holster, but the clips would be showing, and I'd feel on edge the whole time since I wouldn't have permission and the gun would (in my mind) be partially exposed.
You think that's a good idea?
How about the tuckable holster having exposed clips? Should I just try to find a holster with like a single J-clip or something?
The holster selection for the Micro Eagle is a little limited.
I don't think someone's going to see some clips on your belt and automatically think you're carrying a gun. no one is staring at your belt that intensely.
I've carried at college for 2 years. Legal, but being caught means being expelled. Obviously, haven't been.
I don't carry at work since I'm a reservist and that's a no-joke felony to carry onto base.
>but the clips would be showing
You can get low profile ones that are not as noticible. Do you carry anything else on your belt? I have a big ass knife and a leatherman, and i use the knife's clips to somewhat hide the metal clips from my holster.
You really can't see i've got anything other than a large knife.
And I carry a kahr mk9 in a white hat holster in horse hide. Hot as fuck where i'm at, needed something i could tuck a shirt in that wouldn't sweat all day into muh gun.
Took some shit pics to show
Side. Notice the knife holster hides the metal clips.
And the butt shot. I carry the gun super low, and it is a single stack nine but you really can't see it at all. I'm not massive so I carry what I can hide. I'd rather have something small (in at least 9x19 mind you) than nothing.
That being said they are really shitty pictures. Do you work in the back or front?
The gun is at 4 o clock closer to my ass and not right behind the knife. But you bring up a really good point, after i had my set up somewhat penciled in I practiced drawing from holster with the knife there. I will catch the sites on the plastic re-holstering, but I haven't had issues so far. Lots of practice gives me confidence.
Pic to show placment. I do have to really jam my thumb into my butt to grab the gun. But the pull out is easy.
I found that if you have the gun deeper than this your jeans fold over the back of the gun and you can't grab it at all or remains inside your pants.
But hey it works for me for this last year so.... yeah.
OP why don't you try adulting? It usually works well!
>Hey Owner, having a great time so far! But I have a little logistics question
>go ahead, FNG, what is it?
>Well, I normally have a personal defense firearm with me; here's my license and all, and I wanted to know what store policy on this is?
you can offer to leave it in the car or have him keep it for working hours but generally just sack up and have a polite, professional conversation about it and do what he says on his clock
>I'm wearing a giant fucking serial killer/Rambo knife
>surely that will keep people from flipping the fuck out if they see my popgun!
>I'm completely blending in!
The thing is; concealment theory has as much ti do with dress as it does avmctive concealment, if not more. The knife hides the gun, but a lot of people will assume you nay have a gun based on the large knife on your side
I carry at work. My employer activley encourages it. I carry an FNP in a no name leather IWB holster without any issues. On days where I wear business casual/ professional dress, I pocket carry a G43.
Its a hunting knife 'mam. The blade isn't even 6".
I manage a hardware store, and I need to cut things.
Besides, if you are only looking at the knife you're ignoring the clips from the holster.
Don't you have a neighborhood to pick up from soccer practice?
I live in california. No one thinks I have a gun on me.
Where the fuck do you two pussies live that you don't carry a decent knife on you?
Pocket carry, get a kydex sheath for the trigger/guard, it has a lanyard thing for your belt/belt loop. Easy as gripping the gun and firmly pulling as it exits your pocket.
It is how I carry a S&W Bodyguard .380ACP
No printing issues because I don't wear skinny jeans, and slightly heavier khaki pants also don't print.
I carry a C2 tazer everywhere, including at work and everyone is fine with it. With all of the weird shit going on recently around here I suspect they might ask me to carry a gun soon, since I'm the only one there with military experience.
I live in newyork, but as im not sperglord as fuck, i just carry a pocket knife, not a hunting knife as im not crocodile dundee and dont have to use my blade for more than occasional package opening. My fixed blade is in my truck, like a normal human.
>so frankly I don't really care what their opinion on my carrying is.
I'm less worried about "I don't agree with that" and more about "you're fired".
I don't care what his personal opinions are, he's welcome to believe whatever he wants, I just don't want said opinions affecting my employment.
>I manage a hardware store, and I need to cut things.
generally box cutters or small folding knives accomplish this. don't pretend it's normal to use a hunting knife to cut boxes.
I have a shitty shrade old timer in my pocket.
I'm the manager so maybe I got a pass but I walk to work and told the owners I was going to be carrying due to the wild dogs roaming about. I explained that if someone wanted the few hundred dollars in cash in the reg, or even some random item they could steal it. But we all agreed anyone's life on the line would be just cause.
nigga you don't know my hardware needs. You try and cut through 10 layers of burlap in one go to free some knocking poles. What the fuck do yall do that you don't need an assortment of blades on hand to accomplish your shit? Desk work? Soccer coach?
a joke. An unfunny joke if you actually try it see >>28861683
>I live in newyork
>thinking Shitty Yankee opinions matter
Please explain to me what he's doing wrong.
It's not like he's yanking on the flap really hard and leaning backwards so the gun is rigged to fly away. He's standing straight up, pulling the flap at a normal speed.
Yeah that's the one. But is it a viable option if you have a properly sized holster? I wanna conceal at my work and dress code is pic related.
The guy in question picked the holster based on the company's recommendations. According to them that was the correct size.
Seriously invest in a quality holster. If you want stupid cheap get an alien gear, but at least spend a few hours researching at expect to pay 50-100 for a good one.
Get a sneaky pete holster and pretend it is a smartphone holder. If you get a thin enough gun a pocket holster would be good, but you really need to practice drawing to get use to it.
A friend of mine dresses similarly and while he is a bit thinner (no offense) he carrys a third backup gun in his back pocket, an LC9 in some desantis thing. Looks like a wallet or phone.
Or get a taurus curve and troll the board with it.
Omg how could you say someone else has less weight than me I'm triggered now take it back
But seriously thanks for the advice. I'm gonna look into the sneaky Pete holsters, but so far they seem like they'd violate my works dress code.
Any other recommendations are welcome btw
>What the fuck do yall do that you don't need an assortment of blades on hand to accomplish your shit?
do you really think a majority of jobs require you to cut through 10 layers or burlap on the regular? you're not actually as dumb as you're pretending, are you?
Have you not read the thread?
>OP was either going to ask the owner, or carry in a tuckable IWB
>tuckable IWB has exposed clips
>chance owner will find out anyway
seriously nigga it's not hard to follow
Judging by that part of the post and him putting down "desk jobs", I'm assuming it's one of those dudes who think's he's extra manly and superior for doing menial labor instead of some faggy desk job or anything with any kind of minimum qualification.
>herp a derp
Since it wasn't clear enough for you; I was saying find a way to be discrete rather than bring the subject up for discussion.
Guns can be an EXTREMELY touchy subject if you don't know that other person's politics. Even among gun owners there are some who would be appalled by the idea of carrying a gun instead of leaving it at home.
You have a LOT to potentially lose because you don't know what his stance on it is. And I don't just mean getting fired on the spot, there's being singled out, blackmarked, and getting set up to get forced out.
Sure, maybe he's "on board" and you could become best buds and go to the range together; but as he's your boss, YOU absolutely not broach the topic until you know more about his stance.
I'd say your looking at a single stack in a pocket holster. Sneaky petes are all OWB. Funny enough a Curve in your pocket would be pretty inconspicuous. I've pocket carried the kahr on occasion; smart phones are so prevalent today I don't think people notice large bulges as much.
A minority of my jobs require that, yes, so I carry an old large hunting knife. Hardware store manager. Hardware. Cut Stuff. Fairly rural so yes there is a variety of tools needed and I'm equipped accordingly.
>nobody mentioning smart carry
>only printing is directly under your belt at dick level
>nobody on this planet stares at your dick at work and decides to look for a gun
Pic of the guy who invented it carrying a 5 inch 1911A1.
It amazes me how many people are oblivious to the world around them. My roommate has his fucking head in the clouds all the time. I point out six things that are weird in the neighborhood while we're walking and he's like "huh...didn't see that."
That's how I stopped being paranoid about shit because people are so fucking blind most of the time they don't see shit coming. That's why retards get run over by cars when crossing the street.
I use smartcarry at my job and I have to wear slacks and a tucked shirt. I forget I am wearing it sometimes. It is kind of a pain to draw but conceals extremely well.
I mean it wins on the concealed part. And I do like my dick touching steel all day.
How sweaty can this get I wonder? And How much do they run? The only other thing I'd wonder is how long the elastic would last.
Just admit you're a sperg that freaks out the normies, dude, you've dug yourself in too deep at this point
You are 99.999995% "the loud weird guy that has a big knife at the hardware store" to your local community and you need to face up to your spergness
Hypothetically I work in an extremely non-permissive environment.
The best carry method is a Glock 26 in your slacks pocket, unchambered, without a holster. Now put a wallet in front of it.
If you flex your leg to sit down it just shows the imprint of a wallet in front of it.
No worries about exposure, it won't fall out of your pocket (unless you have oddly short pockets), and it can never be accidentally brushed against by co-workers. You won't forget it in the bathroom.
When you're leaving work you can just keep your hand in your pocket to pop junkies waiting in the parking lot to beat oxycodone scripts out of you because they think life is a NES game. Hypothetically.
This is the best method. We didn't have stupid Glock 42 or 43s in the 90s so I stick with the 26. Of note this is the method Gaston himself uses to carry ever since he got his ass beat in his garage. G26 pocket carry.
Let's face it, if you're carrying at work odds are you'll have 10 or 20 seconds to hear Disgruntled Dave shoot his boss before he starts making his way to your side of the job. For extreme concealment it's hard to beat.
About sixty bucks. To answer your sweat question, the lining touching your body is cotton gauze backed with a gore-tex type water barrier that's like the one inside athletic shoes. The sweat goes around it and into your underwear, not through it and onto your gun.
>loose in the pocket
>not even a trigger guard cover like a Raven Vanguard
>why should I be an adult while carrying a deadly weapon everywhere i go
>i shall remain a child
on private property it is absolutely up to the owner you seven starred red belly asshorn retard. At least we know you've never touched let alone owned a gun in your life
Raven vanguard ate through my pants pocket after 6 months.
It doesn't rotate in the pocket or move around because of the pressure of the leather wallet and the pocket isn't wide enough for it to move. I carry like this 12 hours a day standing and crouching and performing lots of life saving activities. Try it unless you have shitty pants. This will not work with jeans.
Ankle carry will show and print unless you never sit down. Shoulder holster does not fit under a dress shirt even with a tiny gun and is not accessible. Any IWB or OWB holster will eventually print or drop the gun or be noticed. Nobody ever will see in my pocket. Hypothetically ofc.
Also if you think it's shit, my G26 draw racking one handed off my stiff belt is faster than any draw you have with a loaded pistol, because my hand is already on my gun when the junkie steps next to my car. Have fun trying to rip up your dress shirt when that happens at 2am.
its a new one made in china. The brass stop broke off first time I opened it for a customer and I haven't brought in a Shrade to sell since. calm your tits.
>"the loud weird guy that has a big knife at the hardware store"
That actually is me. What is wrong with that? Are you that butt blasted you can't carry? Are you Australian?
Would you lose your career if you got made? You wouldn't carry with a round chambered. Especially with multi-T magnetic fields.
Glock himself does not carry with a loaded chamber.
>not carrying loaded in the pocket with a padded sticky pocket holster to break outline.
>racking in a drawstroke when it's entirely possible you may need to draw while fending off a knife in an elevator or while being pinned to the ground
>carrying any ferromagnetic lumps of metal while working in a high Tesla area
One of the few cases I'd leave the gun and pocketknife locked in a car or double locked in a personal locker and just carry one of those Cold Steel plastic and rubber shanks. Article you posted is a patient. If he didn't remove a gun before being put into an MRI, that's a whole new level of stupidity.
it's great that your job "requires" you have a 6 inch hunting knife on you to cut up potato sacks. but the way you phrased your post made it seem like you thought it was weird for a job to not require an assortment of blades.