about 1 year ago
>buy ar15 pistol
>buy sig brace
>days later aft sends letter saying it's illegal to shoulder sit brace
>see for myself what traitorous cucks the atf is
'hey citizen you can have guns that look or work a certain way, my buddies and i are going to raid your house, shoot your dog and take your guns using the very gun you cant have."
>agency which burned kids and women on American soil and took trophy pictures over the still smoldering ruins
>surprised when they do stupid shit out of pure hatred towards freedom and puppies
GIMME MY 5.45x39 BACK
GIMME MY RUSSIAN IMPORTS BACK
At that point it goes from pistol to rifle and you're fine.
But if you put the pistol upper back on it, its an sbr because once a pistol turns into a rifle, it cant go back
Or something. Not like it can be proven
>But if you put the pistol upper back on it, its an sbr because once a pistol turns into a rifle, it cant go back
As of 2011, no.
If it started as a rifle it cannot become a pistol.
If it started as a pistol it can become a rifle and pistol and back and forth however you want so long as it is not in violation of NFA regs.
The worst part of all this was that Kokesh went into town almost everyday and could've easily been arrested there but the faggot ATF had to play operator and caused 80 innocent people to die
Fuck every single member of the ATF, I'm usually a boot licker but I honestly hope that every single ATF agent dies a horrible death
If he put a rifle stock on it to shoulder it, then after putting the pistol upper he also put the brace back on, I would say yeah that's ok.
I think shouldering the arm brace turns it into a stock though.
Mr ATF, could you weigh in?
(4 page pdf on t/c pistol/rifle kits)
Are the targets for training shaped like dogs?
Well in the document they talk about having the pieces in proximity to each other, and how they decided that it didn't constitute an NFA firearm, as long as all the pieces were there to construct either a non-NFA pistol or a non-NFA rifle. If the only parts present for your gun are a short barrel and a shoulder stock, that's an SBR.
We're trying to find out if shouldering a pistol brace changes the legal definition of the shoulder brace, as I understand it. We even have our very own fake ATF agent who would rather be asked about killing dogs than NFA questions.
This is one of our favorite targets
Guys, holy fuck. I just had an epiphany.
What if, and I mean what if, you didn't have a dog and you did something the ATF would rape your over if your normally had one? I mean, if you don't have a dog then they can't come over and shoot it.
a guy I know's gf posted this picture of her shouldering an AR pistol brace on facebook
>probably without knowing it
Yes, but they are only sold to LEOs trough official LEO supply channels.
Sales to civilians for self defense training have been banned as it would be pose a major threat to K-9 officers. We must not forget that a K-9 officer requires special privileges and protections above and beyond those afforded to the plebeians. They need to be able to effectively maul someone without fearing for their own safety or making split-second decisions. These situations are highly stressful. It's already hard enough risking their lives by having to endure sitting in a hot car all day.
>Implying it's not a stamped SBR.
If I was a millionaire, I would get a stamp for a SBR and put the Sig brace on it and stamp an oil filter too. I would then install a registered lightening link and take the whole package to knob creek or some shit for the shear irony.
How does it feel to be a henchman? I always wanted to break into gooning but never made it past lacky before my conscience kicked in.
Also must be tough to sleep at night. A pile of dead dogs and charred babies must be hell on the back/basic human decency
All of you should really just fucking lose your right to own a damn gun because you shown nothing but wha wha wha muh feelings and muh puppies and shit.
The ATF is not this ultra mega huge fucking demonic being that goes and shoots up your four legged pet.
The ATF place down laws and regulations to keep retards like you from going around waving your long ass thirty round magazine arshits and your puppy shouting AM MUH BEIN DETAUUUN DERRRRRRRRR goddamn you fucks really should be restricted from owning a damn firearm.
I highly doubt that when the four fathers made the second amendment they planned for it to be used by retards that drop out of highschool or graduate from the crying and feelings college.
If only they knew how pathetic you severe special needing fucks are they would have established the same thing we the ATF have set on grounds to curb stomp retards like you but I would highly bet that they would just say "jesus christ the future is full of autistic retards with guns! Lets just don't make the second amendment and just put down that only smart and educated can own a gun no wait fuck it the future is already filled with retards"
Without the ATF you fucks would go full retard mode out there with your pathetic full auto money wasting rifles and c4s and blowing shit up and I know there is that ome special fuck that thinks it would be a good idea to go up to a school open carrying a retard black painted plastic gun thinking it's a good fucking idea.
But hey since you guys care so much about animals which is actually surprisingly good for that part of your ill mmanner side of your retardation.
Hopefully the second amendment will be stripped away from all of you so that no puppies and kittens are hurt anymore.
Instead of going full blown "BUT DAH ATF AND THE POLICE SHOT MUH PET!" Why not bitch at the one that actually pull the trigger instead of the entire group you damn stupid child!
this office space cheek was sorely needed
>Of all the butt hurt niggers online today, this was the butthurtiest.
I hope to god you don't have any real power you sickening fuck. I hope a delusional power hungry fuck like you turns your own gone on yourself.
For real tho mr. dog muderer
Why do you think people hate you do much?
The only reason the ATF still exists is because of the creation of the NFA. The only reason the NFA exists is because ATF goons didn't want to lose their jobs after prohibition ended.
Your entire job, and the legacy of your agency is to kill people peaceful people and put them in cages.
How does it feel to be the criminal?
How does it feel to infringe on the rights of people who have not infringed on anyone else' rights?
How does it feel to be so fucking immoral as to say, "if you touch your shoulder with this piece of plastic, that's a felony and you're going to jail! And if you don't like it, we'll kill you!"?
How can you live with yourself?
Seriously, how do you justify it?
Honestly speaking, is that what most people do? I'm building a pistol and I'm trying to figure this part out.
Also, is it illegal to shoulder the buffer tube itself? Is it uncomfortable? What about something like the Thorsden Cheek Sleeve?
No one has shoveled their walkway to work in Martinsburg WV and there is snow ... someone might slip..
ATF only knows how to burn things down, not anything actually useful toward doing their job.
>I shot a dog and now I'm trying to justify it.
The ATF is quite frankly, ripping us off. $200 to swap a barrel on an AR?! that's crazy! If it was me in charge that wouldn't be happening, it's unfair. They closed the machine gun registry, now these guys have a monopoly on machine guns! You got a bunch of guys tryin' to sell us crap from the 50's, can you believe it?! So here's what I'm gonna do for ya, we're gonna to re-open the registry, we're gonna remove all length restrictions, so no more paying for SBS, SBR, and AOW. We're gonna exempt some Destructive Devices but some of them have got to stay. Look, we're beating these guys on guns everyday and we're gonna keep beating them on guns everyday. We're gonna make the 2nd Amendment great again, we're gonna make America great again!
If he said that word for word, I would vote for him. Even if he is just lying to pander to republicans "the dumbest party" as he says. Beats the lie that "I promise I don't want to take your guns, it'll be ok" that the other said is constantly using.
Careful, if you shoulder it even with no one around, the ATF will still show up, shoot your dog (if you don't have one, the nearest dog in the area) and shoot anyone in your house if they so much as react. Trust me, am ATF.
Found the new ATF targets at my local police store.
Should I get one?
I don't have time to check that shit, there's dogs to shoot.
>ATF disbanded after getting BTFO on an online crayola crayon collaboration collective
>Mr. big scurry Lawman gets butthurt on a Moroccan Sandstone Engraving Forum
Oh lawdy, and you wonder why you're universally hated
>atf is gonna shoot my pet bunnies.
Write them back saying you are a crippled vet without the full use of one arm. Can't hold AR15 pistol without brace. Gonna sue under the ADA and collect so much that you fuckers won't have enough to hand a 17 y.o. to buy a six pack for a sting.
I know you're full of shit, but on the outside chance you're not, remember this: we outnumber you ten thousand times over. If you're worried about the loudmouth crybabies you're a fucking idiot...you should be worried about the silent majority patiently and calmly waiting in the wings. The onlookers with silent intellect waiting for for you to make an error so prodigious it becomes the catalyst for reprisals the likes of which you can't even imagine.
it doesn't fucking matter, there was a period of weeks or something when the ATF explicitly said it was legal before completely reversing their decision. How can they prove when the picture was taken?
>"the dumbest party"
That never happened. It was all lies. Not shilling for the donald, just hate to see fellow anons misinformed or maybe watching some anti American cunt posting disinformation on purpose.
Either way he never said that. If that were true it would be in a political attack ad running 24/7 on every major broadcast station in the country.
>tfw when only people who like aks tried to stop the 7n6 ban
>Everyone bands together to stop the green tip ban