Atf hate thread, get in here!!

>>28858961
Nice try, Mr ATF Man.

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about 1 year ago
>buy ar15 pistol
>buy sig brace
>days later aft sends letter saying it's illegal to shoulder sit brace
>see for myself what traitorous cucks the atf is
Mfw

>>28859008
Just shoulder it, anyway.

>>28858961
'hey citizen you can have guns that look or work a certain way, my buddies and i are going to raid your house, shoot your dog and take your guns using the very gun you cant have."

>>28859008
>proving intent

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>>28859008
>agency which burned kids and women on American soil and took trophy pictures over the still smoldering ruins
>surprised when they do stupid shit out of pure hatred towards freedom and puppies

>born after 1986
>can't buy full auto mp5
>has to pay price of a small house to get one today
Why live?

Go to dealer in gun show issue papers revoking license. Charge him for selling without a license.

Just ATF things.

>>28859051
and the bootlickers will keep denying the atf was the bad guy. BUT MUH CRAZY RELIGIOUS CULT THEY DESERVDED TO BE DED!!!!!1

>>28858961
>be in a free countrie
>buy sbr as i like
>atf can suck my balls

>>28859089

To get even.

>>28859089
I would do a lot of things for a pre 86 mp5, it's one of my life goals. I'm glad someone else knows my feels

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>>28858961
GIMME MY 5.45x39 BACK
GIMME MY RUSSIAN IMPORTS BACK
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Debating if i can shoulder a pistol lower with the shockwave brace if i have a 20" upper on it

>>28859265
Why not just apply for a job there and influence policy from the inside?

www.atf.gov/careers

>>28859294
Policy is determined by the administrators and higher ups, not the little guys.
But sure, I'd like to anyway.

>>28859254

Based GSC

>>28859199
ohh
tingly spine feeling
oooh
nope i cmae

God

>>28859231
At that point it goes from pistol to rifle and you're fine.

But if you put the pistol upper back on it, its an sbr because once a pistol turns into a rifle, it cant go back

Or something. Not like it can be proven

>>28860143
>But if you put the pistol upper back on it, its an sbr because once a pistol turns into a rifle, it cant go back
As of 2011, no.
If it started as a rifle it cannot become a pistol.
If it started as a pistol it can become a rifle and pistol and back and forth however you want so long as it is not in violation of NFA regs.

I want a MG so bad, I'm so sad that I'll never be able to afford one.

>>28862213
make one

>>28862213
MAC-11 is 4-5k...

>>28862297
Sup 2012.

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>>28858961
Ask an ATF agent anything

>>28862852
How many dogs have you shot?

>>28862852
jesus, that image gave me a migraine

>>28862852

Hey, what's your every day routine like?

>>28862852

What would you say that you...DO...here?

>>28862852
Why don't you spend money on better cameras instead of guns for el chapo?

>>28862852
Where did you buy that patch and jacket?

>>28859051
The worst part of all this was that Kokesh went into town almost everyday and could've easily been arrested there but the faggot ATF had to play operator and caused 80 innocent people to die

Fuck every single member of the ATF, I'm usually a boot licker but I honestly hope that every single ATF agent dies a horrible death

>>28860159
If he put a rifle stock on it to shoulder it, then after putting the pistol upper he also put the brace back on, I would say yeah that's ok.
I think shouldering the arm brace turns it into a stock though.
Mr ATF, could you weigh in?

https://www.atf.gov/file/55526/download
(4 page pdf on t/c pistol/rifle kits)

>>28862852
Whats it like to have another mans penis in your butt?

>>28862966
Again, so long as it is not in violation of NFA regulations.

>>28859008
>have to buy a loophole product to use a gun how you please

You should have already known how traitorous the ATF is.

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>>28862852
Are the targets for training shaped like dogs?

>>28862987
Well in the document they talk about having the pieces in proximity to each other, and how they decided that it didn't constitute an NFA firearm, as long as all the pieces were there to construct either a non-NFA pistol or a non-NFA rifle. If the only parts present for your gun are a short barrel and a shoulder stock, that's an SBR.

>>28863108
You're not really contesting anything here, yes.

>>28863116
We're trying to find out if shouldering a pistol brace changes the legal definition of the shoulder brace, as I understand it. We even have our very own fake ATF agent who would rather be asked about killing dogs than NFA questions.

>>28863108
So if you have an AR pistol and you have an extra stock from a rifle then the ATF will say you have an SBR

All ATF agents need to be tried for treason right fucking now

>>28863158
The brace becomes a stock when shouldered.
When not shouldered, it isn't a stock.
It's as simple as that.

>>28863013
Usually women and children but possibly

>>28863167
Oh right, but not the current president for signing the 2011 NDAA while conveniently not line-item-vetoing indefinite detention without charge for U.S. citizens.

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>>28863013
This is one of our favorite targets

>>28863173
But shouldering the pistol brace redesigns it. Isn't that permanent? Does the shouldered pistol become a rifle, or does the brace become a stock?

>>28862289
>make one
Yep, plenty of places on the interwebz you can find all the info you need. Buy a parts kit, take a day, you have an AK. Take a bit longer, you can build an MG42.

>>28863215
It is not permanent. Yes on both accords.

>>28858961
Guys, holy fuck. I just had an epiphany.

What if, and I mean what if, you didn't have a dog and you did something the ATF would rape your over if your normally had one? I mean, if you don't have a dog then they can't come over and shoot it.

>>28863234
Okey-dokey, thanks anon.

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>>28863173
a guy I know's gf posted this picture of her shouldering an AR pistol brace on facebook
>2016
>incriminating yourself
>probably without knowing it

>>28863265
That's not touching her shoulder. It's just a really, really close fitting cheek weld.

>>28863250
They'd just shoot you and then burn your house down

>>28862852
did you even answer a single question?

>>28863265
tell her to hide her dogs

>>28859294
I dont want to be killed by a militia member

>>28859265
First non faggot use of melon labia meme since 2012

>>28863218
full auto?

>>28863265
People post videos all the time of them shouldering a sig brace. Pretty sure it isn't a big deal or even enforceable.

If they come after you take that shit to the Supreme Court.

>>28863013
Yes, but they are only sold to LEOs trough official LEO supply channels.

Sales to civilians for self defense training have been banned as it would be pose a major threat to K-9 officers. We must not forget that a K-9 officer requires special privileges and protections above and beyond those afforded to the plebeians. They need to be able to effectively maul someone without fearing for their own safety or making split-second decisions. These situations are highly stressful. It's already hard enough risking their lives by having to endure sitting in a hot car all day.

>>28863265
>Implying it's not a stamped SBR.
If I was a millionaire, I would get a stamp for a SBR and put the Sig brace on it and stamp an oil filter too. I would then install a registered lightening link and take the whole package to knob creek or some shit for the shear irony.

>>28862852
How does it feel to be a henchman? I always wanted to break into gooning but never made it past lacky before my conscience kicked in.

Also must be tough to sleep at night. A pile of dead dogs and charred babies must be hell on the back/basic human decency

>>28863507
#k9policelivesmatter

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>>28863575
All of you should really just fucking lose your right to own a damn gun because you shown nothing but wha wha wha muh feelings and muh puppies and shit.

The ATF is not this ultra mega huge fucking demonic being that goes and shoots up your four legged pet.

The ATF place down laws and regulations to keep retards like you from going around waving your long ass thirty round magazine arshits and your puppy shouting AM MUH BEIN DETAUUUN DERRRRRRRRR goddamn you fucks really should be restricted from owning a damn firearm.

I highly doubt that when the four fathers made the second amendment they planned for it to be used by retards that drop out of highschool or graduate from the crying and feelings college.

If only they knew how pathetic you severe special needing fucks are they would have established the same thing we the ATF have set on grounds to curb stomp retards like you but I would highly bet that they would just say "jesus christ the future is full of autistic retards with guns! Lets just don't make the second amendment and just put down that only smart and educated can own a gun no wait fuck it the future is already filled with retards"

Without the ATF you fucks would go full retard mode out there with your pathetic full auto money wasting rifles and c4s and blowing shit up and I know there is that ome special fuck that thinks it would be a good idea to go up to a school open carrying a retard black painted plastic gun thinking it's a good fucking idea.

But hey since you guys care so much about animals which is actually surprisingly good for that part of your ill mmanner side of your retardation.

Hopefully the second amendment will be stripped away from all of you so that no puppies and kittens are hurt anymore.

Instead of going full blown "BUT DAH ATF AND THE POLICE SHOT MUH PET!" Why not bitch at the one that actually pull the trigger instead of the entire group you damn stupid child!

>>28863656
>four fathers

Unlike you I only have one

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>>28863656

Is this a new copypasta?

>>28863698
If it wasnt, it is now kek

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>>28863656

>>28863656
>RESPECT MUH AUTHORITY!

You have no power little boy, your badge might, but you do not. Looks like all those feelings you've just talked about, is really just you projecting.

>>28863656
see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waco_siege

what if I amputate my shoulders and replace them with some brackets?

>>28862852
WHAT THE FUCK IS TAKING SO LONG WITH MY STAMPS COCKSUCKER?

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>>28862911
this office space cheek was sorely needed

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>>28863656
>Of all the butt hurt niggers online today, this was the butthurtiest.
I hope to god you don't have any real power you sickening fuck. I hope a delusional power hungry fuck like you turns your own gone on yourself.

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>>28865596

>>28859294
I like dogs.

>>28865596
What the hell never knew there was Abrams at waco I just thought there were CEVs, the ATF is truly fucking insane how did they get away with this shit?

>>28866776
Because nobody cares about violent cults.

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>>28858961

>>28863656
But for real.
How many dogs have you shot?

>>28863689
unbelievably underrated
TOP KEK
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>>28863571
its definitely not a stamped sbr, she called it a pistol in the post and took the picture down like a day later, probably because someone told her atf said it was a no no lel

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>>28863656

>>28862852
this is how you respond to the public?
>college drop out detected
>disappointed parents detected

>>28862852
For real tho mr. dog muderer
>>28862867
>>28862971
>>28863013
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>>28863250
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>>28863575
>>28865322
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>>28866878
Why do you think people hate you do much?

>>28863656
Shall not be infringed
Seriously thou that projection
I am 100% safe with my firearms faggot.

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>>28863656
Someone has been triggered

>>28862852
At Ruby Ridge did you guys mean to shoot the woman, or were you aiming for the baby she was holding?

>>28863656
If legit you should be eradicated.
Pathetic scum on a power trip.

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>>28862852
>>28863656
The only reason the ATF still exists is because of the creation of the NFA. The only reason the NFA exists is because ATF goons didn't want to lose their jobs after prohibition ended.
Your entire job, and the legacy of your agency is to kill people peaceful people and put them in cages.
How does it feel to be the criminal?
How does it feel to infringe on the rights of people who have not infringed on anyone else' rights?
How does it feel to be so fucking immoral as to say, "if you touch your shoulder with this piece of plastic, that's a felony and you're going to jail! And if you don't like it, we'll kill you!"?
How can you live with yourself?

Seriously, how do you justify it?

>>28866972
The FBI shot Vicki.

>>28859032
Honestly speaking, is that what most people do? I'm building a pistol and I'm trying to figure this part out.

Also, is it illegal to shoulder the buffer tube itself? Is it uncomfortable? What about something like the Thorsden Cheek Sleeve?

>>28867360
Shoulder the brace with maybe a rolled up towel on the end when nobody's around, or if someday shtf, ugly but cheap and just take off the towel when you're done

>>28867477
I have no clue what you're trying to describe.

>>28865421
No one has shoveled their walkway to work in Martinsburg WV and there is snow ... someone might slip..

ATF only knows how to burn things down, not anything actually useful toward doing their job.

>>28867501
Doesn't matter

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>>28863656
>I shot a dog and now I'm trying to justify it.

>>28862852
Do you monitor /k/ threads?

>>28866995
I like you. Also

>checked

>>28867477
If SHTF, just shoulder the fucking brace.

>>28866995
Best reply yet.

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>>28858961
The ATF is quite frankly, ripping us off. $200 to swap a barrel on an AR?! that's crazy! If it was me in charge that wouldn't be happening, it's unfair. They closed the machine gun registry, now these guys have a monopoly on machine guns! You got a bunch of guys tryin' to sell us crap from the 50's, can you believe it?! So here's what I'm gonna do for ya, we're gonna to re-open the registry, we're gonna remove all length restrictions, so no more paying for SBS, SBR, and AOW. We're gonna exempt some Destructive Devices but some of them have got to stay. Look, we're beating these guys on guns everyday and we're gonna keep beating them on guns everyday. We're gonna make the 2nd Amendment great again, we're gonna make America great again!

>>28859219
REEEE

>>28868161
If he said that word for word, I would vote for him. Even if he is just lying to pander to republicans "the dumbest party" as he says. Beats the lie that "I promise I don't want to take your guns, it'll be ok" that the other said is constantly using.

>>28868161
Plz Mr. God emperor

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>>28863656

Why do you believe that that's a real ATF Agent, it's not.

>>28859032
Careful, if you shoulder it even with no one around, the ATF will still show up, shoot your dog (if you don't have one, the nearest dog in the area) and shoot anyone in your house if they so much as react. Trust me, am ATF.

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>>28858961
Found the new ATF targets at my local police store.

Should I get one?

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>>28868898
I don't have time to check that shit, there's dogs to shoot.

>>28859219
Third. Motion carried.
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>28869848
Is it civilian legal?

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>>28863689
>ATF disbanded after getting BTFO on an online crayola crayon collaboration collective

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>>28863656
>Mr. big scurry Lawman gets butthurt on a Moroccan Sandstone Engraving Forum
Oh lawdy, and you wonder why you're universally hated

>>28869848
> shows dog standing broadside and not running away

Admit it, you made that in MS Paint.

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>>28863656
>four fathers

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>>28863250
>atf is gonna shoot my pet bunnies.
N-nooo

i bet none of u even smoke tobacco

>>28872569
I don't like cancer, so no.

>>28872569
I'm actually smoking a cigar right now.

>>28866776
they got away with it BECAUSE THEY HAVE TANKS AND SHIT. you think it stops there?

>>28863656
Don't you have some kids to bust for smoking menthols and stealing beer? Get fucked

>>28863656
Im 95% sure this shit is old copypasta

>>28859008

Write them back saying you are a crippled vet without the full use of one arm. Can't hold AR15 pistol without brace. Gonna sue under the ADA and collect so much that you fuckers won't have enough to hand a 17 y.o. to buy a six pack for a sting.

>>28866776

There wasn't.

>>28871977
At first I read that as "Darkland"

>>28862852
I know you're full of shit, but on the outside chance you're not, remember this: we outnumber you ten thousand times over. If you're worried about the loudmouth crybabies you're a fucking idiot...you should be worried about the silent majority patiently and calmly waiting in the wings. The onlookers with silent intellect waiting for for you to make an error so prodigious it becomes the catalyst for reprisals the likes of which you can't even imagine.

>>28862852
Name and badge number please.
Under US law, you have to answer. Unless you're not really ATF :^)

>>28868161
>reopen the registry
>not dismantle the registry all together
Fuck off you authoritarian fucktard

>>28859213
Just travel to Czech order many other European countries, they are available there in ranges.

>>28859219
>GIMME MY 5.45x39 BACK
This. FUCKING AAAAATTTTFFFFFFFFF FFFFFFFAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

>>28863698
it isn't new. i've seen it before

>>28876560
One step at a time.

>>28868161
I fucking wish h'ed come out and say that.

>>28862852
Do you work in the San Diego office?

If so, hows that bathroom bruv?

>>28862852
T-That's just a jacket you got off ebay right?

>>28866910
>>28863265
it doesn't fucking matter, there was a period of weeks or something when the ATF explicitly said it was legal before completely reversing their decision. How can they prove when the picture was taken?

>>28863656
Old pasta is old and stale

>>28868394
>"the dumbest party"
That never happened. It was all lies. Not shilling for the donald, just hate to see fellow anons misinformed or maybe watching some anti American cunt posting disinformation on purpose.
Either way he never said that. If that were true it would be in a political attack ad running 24/7 on every major broadcast station in the country.

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>>28859219
>tfw when only people who like aks tried to stop the 7n6 ban
>Everyone bands together to stop the green tip ban

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>>28868161
The hero we need

>>28876560
>implying full auto isnt for richfags
Also this >>28876822

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>>28866853
>tfw my shitty oc is spreading

In your experience, is it better to shoot a dog in the chest or in the head?

>>28875816
>Under US law, you have to answer
No you don't.

>>28868161
If only